Self Esteem and Body Image | That’s What He Said

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28 Oct 201507:32

Summary

TLDRThis video transcript dives into men's struggles with body image and self-esteem, challenging the stereotype that these issues only affect women. The speakers share personal experiences of feeling inadequate due to societal pressures about male attractiveness, such as height, muscularity, and weight. They reflect on their battles with body perception, from overeating to eating disorders, and how media perpetuates unrealistic standards for male beauty. Ultimately, the conversation explores redefining strength and attractiveness, emphasizing emotional security, confidence, and the importance of broadening societal views on what makes someone desirable.

Takeaways

  • 😀 Body image and self-esteem issues affect men too, though it is often thought of as a women's issue.
  • 🤔 Men often feel societal pressure to be tall, muscular, and physically imposing to be considered attractive.
  • 💪 Some men, regardless of effort, struggle to meet these physical ideals, leading to feelings of inadequacy.
  • 🍽 Overeating and excessive gym routines are coping mechanisms some men use to try to meet these body standards.
  • 😔 Struggles with weight, eating disorders, and extreme weight loss can cause significant mental and physical health issues.
  • 🏋️‍♂️ Media perpetuates unrealistic male body standards, leading men to feel pressure to look like models or actors in movies.
  • 😓 The focus on physical appearance over inner qualities has contributed to self-esteem struggles in men.
  • 🧔 Men seek validation in physical appearance but also find alternate ways, like confidence or personality, to feel desirable.
  • 🤷‍♂️ Society's traditional views of masculinity are outdated, and strength in today's world should focus on mental and emotional capabilities.
  • 🌍 There is a need to redefine what makes a man desirable, focusing more on character and less on physical attributes.

Q & A

  • What are some common body image issues men experience according to the script?

    -Men in the script express concerns about their height, muscular build, and overall appearance compared to societal expectations of masculinity, often influenced by media portrayals.

  • How does the media influence men's perceptions of their bodies?

    -The media sets unrealistic standards for men's bodies, often portraying tall, muscular, and hyper-masculine physiques, which affects men's self-esteem and body image.

  • What personal experiences are shared in the script about body image struggles?

    -One man discusses overeating and developing acid reflux in an attempt to gain muscle, while another shares having an eating disorder and losing so much weight that his own father didn't recognize him.

  • How does societal expectation of a 'manly' body affect men's confidence?

    -Society often defines 'manliness' as being tall, muscular, and strong, leading men who don't fit this mold to question their attractiveness, desirability, and masculinity, impacting their self-confidence.

  • What roles do family members play in shaping body image according to the script?

    -Family members, such as fathers, can contribute to body image issues by making comments about size and strength, as seen in one man's experience of his father constantly pressuring him to eat more.

  • What is the script’s perspective on the evolving definition of strength and masculinity?

    -The script suggests that while physical strength was once vital for survival, modern masculinity should focus more on qualities like negotiation, diplomacy, and emotional security rather than just physical power.

  • How does the script address the pressure to achieve a certain body type through exercise?

    -One participant mentions the pressure to look like male models or actors in films like '300,' noting that even with intense gym workouts, it's nearly impossible to achieve such exaggerated physiques without external enhancements like makeup or editing.

  • What alternative role models are mentioned for men who don’t fit traditional body standards?

    -Men in the script reference figures like Iggy Pop and Keith Richards, who, despite not being muscular or traditionally handsome, became cultural icons, offering hope that success and desirability aren't dependent on physical build.

  • How do men in the script cope with body image pressures?

    -Some men try to find validation through exercise or dieting, while others learn to accept their bodies and shift their focus to other attributes, like making their partners feel safe through emotional or mental strength.

  • What message does the script convey about redefining male attractiveness?

    -The script encourages broadening the definition of male attractiveness to include different body types and emphasizes that true strength comes from qualities like empathy, intelligence, and emotional resilience rather than just physical appearance.

Outlines

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🧠 Men's Struggles with Body Image and Self-Esteem

This section explores the topic of body image issues, typically associated with women but also affecting men. The speakers reflect on their own insecurities, especially concerning height, physique, and societal expectations of masculinity. One speaker shares how the common 'tall, dark, and handsome' stereotype impacts his self-worth, while another admits that seeing male models on social media sometimes makes him feel inadequate. The group discusses the pressure to conform to certain male body ideals and how this affects their confidence and self-perception.

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🍽 Family Pressures and Overeating

Here, the focus shifts to the pressures of body image within family dynamics, particularly with one speaker sharing how his father, a larger man, often pushed him to eat more to gain weight. This led to overeating and digestive issues, highlighting the unhealthy cycle some men fall into when trying to bulk up. Another speaker recounts how he was encouraged to lose weight for his career in music, leading to an extreme weight loss and an eating disorder. The emotional toll of not meeting expectations, both self-imposed and societal, is examined, showing the complex relationship between body image and mental health.

💪 Skinny vs. Muscular – Finding Role Models

The conversation moves toward how men deal with being naturally skinny, and the lack of role models for this body type. One speaker talks about looking up to figures like Iggy Pop and Keith Richards, who demonstrated that a man doesn't have to be muscular to make an impact or be desirable. This section challenges the mainstream perception of male attractiveness, suggesting that media shapes unrealistic standards, which can leave many men feeling inadequate. The need for broader definitions of attractiveness is emphasized.

📺 The Media's Influence on Male Body Image

In this section, the speakers reflect on how the media, particularly through films like '300' and advertisements like Old Spice, perpetuates unrealistic male body ideals. They discuss how media images often involve digitally enhanced physiques that are unattainable, even for men who spend significant time at the gym. The pressure to meet these exaggerated standards is explored, as well as the sense of inadequacy many men feel when they don't match up to these idealized portrayals of masculinity.

🤯 Body Image and Masculine Expectations

This paragraph delves into how societal expectations of masculinity, such as needing to be physically large and imposing, create mental struggles for smaller men. The speaker, a 'diminutive' and skinny man, expresses frustration at constantly being reminded that his body doesn’t meet traditional standards of masculinity. The conversation continues to explore how deeply ingrained these perceptions are, often leading to a lifetime of struggling with body image.

🔄 The Caveman Mentality and Modern Masculinity

The conversation concludes with a reflection on the outdated 'caveman mentality' that equates physical size with masculinity and the ability to protect loved ones. The group challenges this notion, arguing that in modern times, real strength comes from qualities like diplomacy, negotiation, and emotional intelligence. They stress the need to expand definitions of masculinity beyond physical strength, acknowledging that media and societal pressure still hold onto archaic ideas about what makes a man 'desirable' or 'powerful.'

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Self-esteem

Self-esteem refers to the overall sense of self-worth or personal value. In the video, self-esteem is discussed in the context of how men perceive themselves in relation to societal ideals, such as height, strength, and attractiveness. The individuals share personal struggles with their self-image and how it affects their sense of masculinity.

💡Body issues

Body issues pertain to concerns or dissatisfaction with one's physical appearance. The speakers express discomfort with not fitting traditional ideals of male beauty, like being tall, muscular, or having a 'perfect' body. The video highlights how body image is a source of insecurity for men, not just women, challenging common stereotypes.

💡Masculinity

Masculinity refers to qualities or attributes traditionally associated with being male. The video explores how societal expectations of masculinity—such as being big, strong, and tough—can create pressure for men to conform, often leading to feelings of inadequacy when they don’t meet these standards.

💡Media influence

Media influence refers to how portrayals in movies, advertisements, and social media shape people’s views of beauty and success. In the video, characters mention how media presents unrealistic standards, like the physiques in the movie '300' or Old Spice commercials, which contribute to body image struggles for men.

💡Physical appearance

Physical appearance relates to how a person looks, which is a central focus in the video. Many speakers share stories about trying to change their appearance through overeating, going to the gym, or even developing eating disorders in order to meet societal ideals of what a man should look like.

💡Comparison

Comparison involves evaluating oneself against others. In the video, several individuals compare their bodies to idealized male figures, like athletes or models, leading to feelings of inadequacy. One speaker mentions comparing himself to his father, who was taller and more muscular, which exacerbated his insecurities.

💡Overeating

Overeating is the act of consuming more food than the body needs, often in an attempt to gain weight or change one's body. One speaker in the video discusses his struggles with overeating to try to become bigger and more muscular, only to develop health problems like acid reflux as a result.

💡Eating disorder

An eating disorder is a mental health condition characterized by unhealthy eating habits, such as extreme dieting or overeating. One speaker in the video reveals that he developed an eating disorder in college in an effort to control his weight, reflecting the pressure men feel to conform to certain body standards.

💡Skinny

Skinny refers to being very thin or having a low body weight. Several men in the video express insecurity about being naturally skinny, unable to gain weight or muscle easily. The word is used to describe feelings of inadequacy for not fitting the 'built' male body ideal.

💡Redefining strength

Redefining strength refers to shifting the definition of strength from physical prowess to qualities like emotional resilience, diplomacy, and intellectual capacity. In the video, the speakers suggest that society should move away from outdated notions of strength based on physical size and muscle mass and instead value other attributes that are important in modern life.

Highlights

The conversation opens by addressing how self-esteem and body issues are often associated with women, but men also struggle with these challenges.

One participant shares his insecurity about not being tall, long, or lean, raising questions about how masculine he can be.

Another participant highlights the societal expectation for men to be 'tall, dark, and handsome' and how it creates insecurities when they don't fit this mold.

The influence of family on body image is discussed, with one person recalling how his father often commented on his size and diet, causing insecurity.

One participant talks about developing acid reflux due to overeating in an attempt to gain muscle, reflecting the pressure to have a larger physique.

Another person shares how, after losing significant weight in college, he was told by others that he was stuck 'in between skinny and fat,' adding to his body image struggles.

The emotional impact of weight loss is further emphasized when a participant recalls his father not recognizing him after he lost weight, but still saying he looked good.

A discussion emerges about the difficulty of gaining weight for some men and the pressure to look more muscular, despite their natural body type.

One participant finds comfort in male role models like Iggy Pop and Keith Richards, who prove that men don't need to be built to make a splash.

The group explores how the media fuels unrealistic body expectations for men, using examples like the '300' movie and Old Spice commercials to show how even physically fit men are altered for the screen.

Another participant voices frustration with the media's role in shaping body ideals, emphasizing the harmful pressure on men to have large muscles and sexual prowess.

There is an acknowledgment of the ongoing struggle with body image, even into adulthood, as one participant reveals he still battles with these issues daily.

The conversation highlights how, in society, bigger men are often treated with more respect and presence than smaller men, further deepening body image insecurities.

Participants touch on the evolutionary roots of body image, discussing how strength and size were once essential for survival, but are now less relevant.

The group agrees that the definition of masculinity and attractiveness needs to evolve, with a focus on qualities like negotiation, diplomacy, and emotional strength, rather than physical appearance.

Transcripts

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-So, self-esteem and body issues.

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At least when I hear that as a topic,

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my first thought goes like,

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"Oh, that's normally a conversation for women."

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But at least for me, I definitely have

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a lot of those issues.

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You know, I'm not the tallest guy.

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I'm not like long and lean and ripped in this kind of way,

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and how much of a man am I or can I be --

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-Could you even be with the, like --

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-Yeah.

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-I mean, that just, like, hit a chord with me

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because the thing that I've always heard was to be, like,

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a good-looking guy is tall, dark, and handsome.

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And I'm like, well, I only have two out of three, so...

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[ Laughter ]

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...you know, like, what am I gonna do?

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But it asks that question,

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like how desirable could I possibly be?

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-I obviously don't fit that mold.

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And I never have.

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-I see pictures of, like, male models on Instagram.

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I could be doing better.

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-Sometimes I feel like, "Oh, my God, I feel so good!"

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And then sometimes I feel like

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I don't even want to come out from under the covers.

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-How about you guys?

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-Yeah. I mean, my dad was a star athlete in high school,

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and he is a much bigger dude than I am.

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He's got maybe 5 inches on me.

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And he's built.

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And growing up, he definitely noticed that

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and would bring it to my attention as often as he could.

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-Awesome.

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-And he'd always be like, "Are you -- What are you do--

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Are you not eating? Are you not eating enough?"

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And he'd, like, just put food in my face, and I'd be like,

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"I eat everything!"

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I'm better now, but actually, when I was in college,

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I was getting really bad acid reflux,

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and I was having really bad digestive problems.

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It turned out I didn't, like,

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have a problem per se with acid reflux.

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I had a problem with overeating, and I would overeat,

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and I'd go to the gym, and I'd gorge myself,

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trying to get bigger.

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And I did, but I didn't get taller.

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-I think by freshman year of college,

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I was like 245, and I --

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At the end of my freshman year,

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like, I got a talking-to from my department about my weight,

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and they were like, "You're, like, a pop singer,

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and you're a tenor. You're never gonna work."

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So, I signed up for this clinic out here.

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I lost like 60 pounds in 2 1/2 months...

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-Wow. -Whoa.

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-...going to this clinic, and I came back to college,

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and they were like, "Well, now you're in between skinny

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and fat, so you need to decide what you're gonna do."

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-...them. -Wow.

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-It was this, like, crazy year,

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and it's very embarrassing as a man to say, but I had,

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like, a full-on eating disorder.

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I got so skinny at one point,

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I came back to LAX for spring break,

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and my dad walked by me in the airport

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because I had gotten so skinny that he didn't recognize me.

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And I was like, "Dad!"

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And he turns around, and he looks at me --

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and my dad's a doctor -- and he looked at me.

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And I'll never forget. He said, "You look so good."

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-Oh, geez.

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-I've always been really skinny.

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You know, that's always kind of been something that I was, like,

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sensitive about a lot growing up.

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And, you know, no matter what,

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no matter how much exercise or anything,

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I just can't put on weight very easily.

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And so, I would always kind of --

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I find myself, like, tending to go towards,

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growing up, these guys, kind of like Iggy Pop

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and Keith Richards and, you know, that style of man,

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that I was just like, "Oh, those guys" --

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kind of gave me hope that, like, you know,

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you don't have to be built to make a splash and to be a man

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and to be, you know, desirable, I guess, you know?

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-What my body should look like

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and what your body should look like

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are completely different things.

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I don't know that there is a perfect

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what a male body should look like

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because I've seen beautiful male and female bodies

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in all different shapes and sizes.

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-I think the media has kind of fueled the emphasis

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of us looking a certain way.

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I think before, it was about your swagger

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and your confidence.

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Now, it's becoming more physical.

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The "300," you know, movies.

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-Yeah. I think it's amazing

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that even when you watch something like the "300,"

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you're like, "All right, obviously these are guys

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who just live in the gym, blah-blah-blah."

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And that's all true, but even if you live in the gym,

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you're not gonna look like that.

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-Yeah. They're gonna spray in those abs to shadow it,

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to make it look... -Amazing.

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-...like a comic book. -Yeah.

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-Yeah. I mean, like, the Old Spice commercial

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is a perfect example.

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She's like, "Look at your man. Now look at me.

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Now look back at your man," and I'm like, "Please don't."

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[ Laughter ]

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-Oh, the media.

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Oh, gosh, how does the media define our bodies?

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I think it sucks that the media defines our bodies

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because it doesn't give us a whole lot of room

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for us to be ourselves and be comfortable in who we are.

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These things that you have to have, like, a giant c-ck

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and you have to have these heaving, giant muscles.

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I think it makes those of us -- I include myself in that --

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that are diminutive and skinny, small dudes, like,

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it...us up, and it --

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It's taken me -- And I still struggle with it to this day.

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I'm [mutters] years old,

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and I struggle with it every, single day.

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-So, why, right?

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This whole body-image thing, right?

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Regardless of what community, what culture you're in

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and why you want to look so good,

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you know, what is that about?

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-Once, I lost a bunch of weight, and I'll tell you,

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when you go from a truck-sized body to a little-guy body,

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people don't get out of your way.

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And it does affect you to the point that, you know,

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thank God, I put it all back on.

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[ Laughter ]

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And now people will get out of your way.

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-I think it all just goes back to, like, that caveman mentality

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of, like, the bigger, stronger, more prominent male

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is gonna be the one to attract the most women.

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-Well, I think also, going back to, like, wanting to,

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you know, be a presence in your loved one's life

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that makes them feel safe wherever you're going, you know,

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in whatever situation,

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that you would be able to handle the situation,

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take care of it in whatever way that it is.

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You know, so I think, you know, growing up as, like,

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a skinny guy, that was something that I had to figure out,

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like, what other ways can I make somebody feel safe?

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-We need to be willing to broaden the definition

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of what handsome and sexy means.

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In the beginning, when we were cavemen,

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it was very important that you had a mate

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that could protect you

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and protect your children from other cavemen.

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Physical strength doesn't do that anymore.

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The future is...dead

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unless we can figure out a way to live together on this planet.

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And that means negotiation, listening.

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That means diplomacy.

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That's where real strength comes from now.

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