Why Longevity Experts Are Warning Against Fasting

Dr Brad Stanfield
7 Aug 202408:59

Summary

TLDRThis video explores the evolving views on fasting, particularly the shift from initial enthusiasm based on rodent studies to a more cautious stance informed by human clinical trials. It discusses the benefits of time-restricted feeding, such as weight loss and improved blood sugar control, and addresses the critical flaw in studies that compared calorie-restricted groups. The video also highlights the importance of protein intake during fasting and the potential muscle loss from prolonged fasts. It concludes with practical advice on integrating time-restricted feeding into a healthy diet and cautions against multi-day fasts due to muscle degradation.

Takeaways

  • 🔬 The initial excitement for intermittent fasting came from rodent studies showing benefits like weight loss and increased lifespan, even without calorie restriction.
  • 🧬 Autophagy, the cellular process of clearing away damaged components, was observed in rodents during fasting, suggesting potential health benefits.
  • 🧐 Human clinical trials have shown that the benefits of time-restricted feeding are largely due to calorie restriction rather than the fasting itself.
  • 📉 A meta-analysis by the Cochran organization found no differences in weight loss or blood sugar levels when calorie intake was matched between fasting and non-fasting groups.
  • 🏋️‍♂️ Concerns about muscle loss during prolonged fasting have led experts like Dr. Peter AA and Dr. Ronda Patrick to reconsider their stance on fasting protocols.
  • 🥤 To maintain protein intake and support muscle building, it's recommended to include a low-calorie protein shake in the diet, especially during periods of fasting.
  • ⏰ The timing of meals is important; having a large breakfast and medium lunch with a small early dinner, followed by a period of no eating, can be beneficial for sleep and recovery.
  • 🦵 Muscle is crucial for health, and multi-day fasts can lead to significant muscle loss, which is why they are advised against in the script.
  • 📚 The video emphasizes the importance of protein intake and encourages viewers to explore further content on optimizing protein consumption for health.
  • 🙏 The video concludes with a thank you to patrons for their support, highlighting the community aspect of health education.

Q & A

  • Why did Dr. Peter Attia and Dr. Ronda Patrick change their stance on fasting?

    -Dr. Peter Attia and Dr. Ronda Patrick changed their stance on fasting due to new human clinical research that suggests there is no additional benefit from time-restricted feeding beyond calorie restriction.

  • What was the initial excitement for intermittent fasting based on?

    -The initial excitement for intermittent fasting was based on studies in rodents that reported time-restricted feeding reduced body weight, improved blood sugar control, lowered insulin levels, and increased lifespan.

  • What is autophagy and how is it related to fasting?

    -Autophagy is the cellular process where old, damaged components are cleared away to make room for new components. It was observed in rodents during fasting periods and was thought to contribute to the health benefits of time-restricted feeding.

  • What is the critical point about the rodent studies on fasting?

    -The critical point is that even when food intake was matched to the control group, rodents who ate within a smaller time frame lived longer, suggesting potential benefits beyond just calorie restriction.

  • What flaw was found in most human studies on time-restricted feeding?

    -The flaw found in most human studies on time-restricted feeding is that the groups practicing time-restricted feeding typically consumed fewer calories compared to the control group, making it difficult to isolate the effects of fasting from calorie restriction.

  • What did the 2020 meta-analysis of human studies on time-restricted feeding suggest?

    -The 2020 meta-analysis suggested that time-restricted feeding offered greater weight loss and reductions in blood sugar levels compared to diets where people could eat whenever they wanted.

  • Why did Dr. Attia stop his multi-day fasts?

    -Dr. Attia stopped his multi-day fasts due to a lack of good human evidence supporting their long-term benefits and concerns about muscle loss, which he felt was not worth the potential benefits.

  • How does muscle loss relate to fasting practices?

    -Muscle loss relates to fasting practices because prolonged fasting can lead to the breakdown of muscle tissue, which is difficult to rebuild, leading to a net loss in muscle mass and strength.

  • What is the recommended approach to time-restricted feeding according to the script?

    -The recommended approach to time-restricted feeding is to ensure adequate protein intake to support muscle health, possibly by including a low-calorie protein shake during the fasting period.

  • Why are multi-day fasts discouraged in the script?

    -Multi-day fasts are discouraged due to their impact on muscle stores, which are considered too important to waste away, and the lack of evidence for long-term benefits.

  • What is the significance of brushing teeth after dinner as mentioned in the script?

    -Brushing teeth after dinner serves as a powerful signal that eating for the day is finished, which can help divert resources towards repair while sleeping rather than digestion.

Outlines

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🍽️ Changing Stance on Fasting Protocols

The speaker discusses the evolution of their views on fasting and meal skipping in the context of longevity. They highlight the influence of Dr. Peter Attia and Dr. Ronda Patrick, who have also revised their positions on fasting. The initial excitement for intermittent fasting stemmed from rodent studies that showed benefits such as weight loss, improved blood sugar control, and increased lifespan, even when calorie intake was the same as the control group. The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding the human clinical trials on fasting, which have led to a shift in their approach. They point out that autophagy, a cellular process that clears out old damaged components, was observed in rodents during fasting but that human studies have not conclusively shown the same benefits. The speaker also raises concerns about the methodological flaws in some studies, such as calorie intake not being properly controlled, which could skew the results. They conclude by suggesting that the benefits of time-restricted feeding may be due to calorie restriction rather than the fasting itself.

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🥤 Balancing Caloric Restriction with Protein Intake

The speaker advises against multi-day fasts due to potential muscle loss and a lack of evidence supporting their long-term benefits. They explain that while calorie restriction is beneficial for weight loss and diabetes management, it's crucial to ensure adequate protein intake to support muscle health and recovery from resistance exercise. The speaker suggests incorporating a low-calorie protein shake during fasting periods to maintain protein intake. They share their personal preference for having a large breakfast, medium lunch, and a small early dinner, followed by a 30-minute wait before brushing teeth to signal the end of the eating day. This approach, they believe, helps the body focus on repair during sleep. The speaker also recommends against prolonged fasting, as it can lead to muscle loss, which is a significant concern. They conclude by encouraging viewers to watch a subsequent video that delves deeper into protein intake and its role in health.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Fasting Protocol

A fasting protocol refers to a specific plan or schedule for abstaining from food for certain periods to achieve health benefits. In the video, the speaker discusses their personal fasting protocol, which involved multi-day fasts, and why they eventually stopped following it due to concerns over muscle loss.

💡Meal Skipping

Meal skipping is the practice of intentionally not eating during certain times of the day, often as part of an intermittent fasting regimen. The video addresses the shift in opinion regarding meal skipping, discussing its potential benefits and drawbacks, especially in the context of human research.

💡Autophagy

Autophagy is a cellular process where cells 'self-digest' by breaking down and removing old or damaged components to maintain health. The video mentions autophagy as a potential benefit of fasting, as it was observed in rodent studies where time-restricted feeding led to longer lifespans.

💡Time-Restricted Feeding

Time-restricted feeding is a type of intermittent fasting where eating is confined to a specific window of time within a day. The video discusses how initial excitement for this approach came from rodent studies, but human clinical trials have not shown the same benefits when calorie intake is matched.

💡Calorie Restriction

Calorie restriction involves reducing the total number of calories consumed, which can lead to weight loss and other health benefits. The video suggests that the benefits seen in time-restricted feeding studies may actually be due to calorie restriction rather than the fasting itself.

💡Protein Intake

Protein intake is crucial for muscle building and repair. The video highlights the importance of adequate protein consumption, especially during fasting periods, to prevent muscle loss and to support the benefits of resistance exercise.

💡Multi-Day Fasts

Multi-day fasts involve abstaining from food for more than 24 hours continuously. The speaker used to practice this but discontinued it due to concerns about long-term benefits and muscle loss, as humans metabolize food differently than rodents.

💡Human Clinical Trials

Human clinical trials are scientific studies conducted on human subjects to evaluate the safety and efficacy of medical interventions. The video references these trials as a source of evidence that has influenced the speaker's and other experts' views on fasting.

💡Muscle Loss

Muscle loss refers to the decrease in muscle mass, which can occur during prolonged fasting due to the body breaking down muscle for energy. The video discusses muscle loss as a significant concern that led the speaker to stop their fasting protocol.

💡Intermittent Fasting

Intermittent fasting is an eating pattern where individuals cycle between periods of fasting and eating. The video explores the popularity and potential benefits of intermittent fasting, contrasting it with the realities of human research.

💡Longevity

Longevity refers to the state of living a long, healthy life. The video discusses how fasting practices, particularly those based on rodent studies, were initially thought to promote longevity in humans as well.

Highlights

Dr. Peter Attia and Dr. Ronda Patrick have changed their stance on fasting protocols.

Initial excitement for intermittent fasting came from rodent studies showing benefits like weight loss and increased lifespan.

Autophagy, the cell clearance process, was observed in rodents during fasting, suggesting potential benefits for humans.

A 2020 meta-analysis suggested time-restricted feeding might offer greater weight loss and blood sugar control.

Most human studies on time-restricted feeding have a flaw: the fasting groups tend to consume fewer calories.

A 2012 Cochrane meta-analysis found no difference in weight loss or blood sugar levels when calorie intake was matched.

A 2019 study suggested alternate day fasting might reduce fasting insulin and insulin resistance more than calorie restriction.

The benefits of time-restricted feeding appear to be due to calorie restriction rather than the fasting itself.

Multi-day fasts were thought to powerfully activate autophagy, but there's no good evidence for long-term benefits in humans.

Muscle loss is a significant concern with prolonged fasting, which can outweigh potential benefits.

Time-restricted feeding is beneficial for weight loss and diabetes management, but it's essential to ensure adequate protein intake.

A low-calorie protein shake is recommended during the fasting period to maintain muscle mass.

The speaker personally prefers a large breakfast, medium lunch, and a small early dinner for optimal health.

Multi-day fasts are discouraged due to their impact on muscle stores.

Protein intake is crucial for muscle maintenance and overall health.

The speaker encourages patients to consider time-restricted feeding for weight loss but to be mindful of protein intake.

The speaker shares a personal strategy of having a large breakfast and brushing teeth after dinner to signal the end of eating for the day.

The speaker suggests measuring heart rate overnight to compare the effects of different meal timings on sleep and energy levels.

Transcripts

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why did I stop my fasting protocol one

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of the biggest things I've changed my

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mind on over the past few few years is

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um my stance on meal skipping why has

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Peter AA and Ronda Patrick who are both

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famous doctors in the longevity space

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changed their position on fasting and

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how should we approach fasting based on

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the latest human research to optimize

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our health we need to get this right

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because if we don't it can take years

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off our lifespan this topic can be

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confusing so in this video I'll be

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breaking it down in simple terms giving

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you the pros and cons of meal skipping

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so that you know what to look out for

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and I'll give you a clear plan on how to

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approach fasting in case you decide it's

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worth it for you now you've probably

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heard great things about intermittent

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fasting so what's caused the shift in Dr

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a and Dr Patrick's approach well the

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initial excitement for intermittent

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fasting it came from studies in rodents

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which reported that time-restricted

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feeding or eating within a small window

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in the day reduced body weight improved

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blood sugar control lowers insulin

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levels and increases lifespan and here

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is the critical point even when food

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intake is matched to the control group

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so we know from previous rodent studies

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that restricting calories extends rodent

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lifespan but here in the time restricted

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feeding studies even when both groups of

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rodents were eating the same amount of

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food the rodents who ate the food within

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that smaller time frame in the day were

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living longer that Leed to an explosion

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in popularity of time-restricted feeding

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where even if you don't need to lose

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weight it was hoped that if humans also

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ate with within that smaller time frame

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in the day we too could live longer and

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healthier so how was it thought that

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time-restricted feeding could offer

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these benefits well when rodents were

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fasting for a period of time during the

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day scientists took biopsies and they

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saw that a process called autophagy was

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occurring in the cells of these mice so

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autophagy is the cell clearance process

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where old damaged components are flushed

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away and then new components can be

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built it sounds wonderful but we are not

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rodents what do the human clinical

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trials show and as more research came

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through that led to Dr Peter AA and Dr

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Ronda Patrick to shift their position at

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first the research and humans looked

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promising for example a 2020 meta

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analysis of the human studies suggested

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that time-restricted feeding offered

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greater weight loss and reductions in

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blood sugar levels compared to other

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diets where people could eat whenever

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they wanted so it all sounds wonderful

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but when we dig deeper we find a big

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problem most of the studies that were

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done on time-restricted feeding have a

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fatal flaw the time-restricted feeding

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groups they ate less calories compared

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to the control group now this isn't the

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problem that led Dr AA and Dr Patrick to

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change their position that's coming soon

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but it's important that we finish off

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this thread remember it was hoped that

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time-restricted feeding would offer

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benefits Beyond simply restricting

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calories that's what the rodent study

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suggested but when the Cochran

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organization performed a metaanalysis in

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20121 where they combined all of the

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relevant clinical studies together they

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found that the trials that matched the

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calorie IND intake between both groups

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there were no differences in weight loss

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or blood sugar levels even studies that

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aimed to calorie match the diet groups

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struggled take for example this 2019

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study which concluded that alternate day

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fasting May produce greater reductions

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in fasting insulin and insulin

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resistance versus calorie restriction

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but when you actually look at the data

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and explore how many calories both

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groups ate the fasting group still ate

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less calories compared to the calorie

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restriction group so it was the lower

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calorie intake that offered those

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benefits it didn't seem to have anything

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to do with the fasting itself and it's

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the same for fatty liver there appear to

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be no further benefits from

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time-restricted feeding Beyond calorie

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restriction and to put another nail in

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the coffin a new time-restricted feeding

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study was recently published both groups

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ate the same amount of calories but one

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group ate within a 10hour window and ate

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80% of the food before 1: p.m. while the

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other group ate an a usual eating

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pattern and had over 50% of their food

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after 5 p.m overall there were no

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differences in weight loss or blood

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sugar levels between the two groups

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suggesting that any effect that

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time-restricted feeding had on weight is

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due to reductions in calorie intake but

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isn't restricting calories a good thing

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should we use time-restricted feeding to

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reduce our food intake yes but here is

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where the confusion comes in and this is

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why Dr AA Dr Patrick and my previous

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fasting videos tried to add Nuance to

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this topic controlling calorie intake is

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great but we need to be mindful about

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protein to maximize the benefits of

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resistance exercise and to support

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muscle building we want 1.6 g of protein

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intake per kilogram of lean body weight

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per day so if someone is completely

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skipping meals it can be quite difficult

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to reach those protein targets for

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example often when people practice

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time-restricted feeding they skip

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breakfast and only eat in the afternoon

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and evening that can be great for

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restricting calories but not so great

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for protein intake instead if someone

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wants to have their main meals in the

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afternoon and evening to restrict their

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overall calorie intake one option would

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be to include a low calorie protein

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shake in the morning we don't need to

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worry about so-called breaking a fast

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because we know it's not the fasting

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itself that offers the benefits it's the

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overall reduction in calorie intake but

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what if we take fasting a step further

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and perform multi-day fasts in theory

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fasting for multiple days in a row

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should powerfully activate autophagy and

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provide the benefits that we see in the

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rodent studies this is actually the

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strategy that I used to do about 3 to 4

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years ago where every 3 months I would

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do a water fast for 7 days now what's

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the justification for this well a rat

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hour is very different to a human hour

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rats have a metabolic rate of roughly

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6.4 times that of humans so a rat

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fasting for 16 hours is roughly the

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equivalent of a human fasting for 4 days

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now this is a very crude method but it

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likely explains why humans don't appear

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to get any additional benefit from time

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restricted feeding Beyond calorie restri

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restriction whereas rats do especially

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when you consider that in humans our

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liver stores energy in the form of

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glycogen and it can take up to 48 hours

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to burn through those glycogen stores

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before autophagy really kicks in now I

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want to be clear that this is

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speculation and it's based on

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mechanistic reasoning but it's the

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justification provided for multi-day

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fasts but I stopped doing these

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prolonged fasts because of two reasons

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the first is that there's no good human

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evidence that this is beneficial in the

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long term or the that autophagy is being

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activated but the second and probably

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more important reason is muscle loss so

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every day we break down muscle and if we

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don't rebuild that lost muscle we're in

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a net loss and we lose strength any

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potential benefit I was receiving from

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these prolonged fasts they were vastly

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outweighed by the negative impact on my

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muscle stores similar to what happened

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to Dr AA you may ask the question why

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did I stop my fasting protocol it's very

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difficult to gain back the lean muscle

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you keep losing so let's try now and

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pull everything together there's no

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benefit from time-restricted feeding

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Beyond calorie restriction that's what

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the human clinical research suggests to

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us today calorie restriction is great

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for weight loss and to treat diabetes so

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in my clinic I frequently advise my

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patients who want to lose weight or to

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reduce their blood sugar levels to

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consider time-restricted feeding but I

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encourage them to also use a low calorie

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protein shake during the part of the day

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where they're fasting this is to make

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sure that they're getting enough protein

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to look after their muscles I advise

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this because it's not that something

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magical is happening to the body during

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these skipped meals or that we're

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activating autophagy it's the calorie

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restriction that's doing the trick some

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patients want to eat their meals in the

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afternoon and which case I advise that

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they have a low calorie protein shake in

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the morning others want to eat their

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meals in the morning in which case

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they'll have that protein shake in the

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afternoon and evening for me personally

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I feel best when I have a large

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breakfast and medium lunch and a small

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early dinner after dinner I wait 30

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minutes and then I brush my teeth that's

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a powerful signal that I've finished

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eating for the day and by using the

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strategy I make sure that when I'm

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sleeping my body is diverting resources

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to repair rather than digestion it's

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actually quite an interesting experiment

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to run if you have a smartwatch measure

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your heart rate overnight and compare

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what happens when you have a large late

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dinner compared to an early light dinner

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your heart rate will be much lower if

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you have an early light dinner and the

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vast majority of people wake up with a

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lot more energy finally I advise my

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patients against multi-day fasts due to

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the impact on their muscle stores muscle

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is far too important to have it waste

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away and I've spoken a lot about protein

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during this video but I've only scratch

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the surface so I highly recommend that

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you check out this next video here where

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I go into detail about protein intake

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and the best strategies to optimize

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protein intake for our health and a

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massive thank you to all of the patreons

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supporting the channel

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