Potsdam: Marriage on the Skids

The Agora
12 Sept 202220:34

Summary

TLDRThe lecture discusses the Potsdam Conference of June 1945, where the 'Big Three' (US, UK, and USSR) met to settle post-WWII Europe. Despite the title 'Marriage on the Skids' suggesting a breakdown in relations, the conference aimed to continue cooperation. However, the end of the Lend-Lease aid, the new leadership of Harry Truman and Clement Attlee, and the successful Trinity nuclear test shifted US-Soviet dynamics. The conference failed to reach a comprehensive settlement, reflecting deep mistrust and divergent goals, particularly over Germany's future and Soviet reparations. This discord set the stage for the Cold War, as the temporary Potsdam Agreement became the de facto post-war European order.

Takeaways

  • 🏛️ The Potsdam Conference in June 1945 was a pivotal meeting between the 'Big Three' (USSR, USA, and UK) following Germany's unconditional surrender to discuss post-war Europe.
  • ⚖️ The conference aimed to finalize a grand settlement and address unfinished business from the Yalta Conference but ended with an agreement to continue disagreements, symbolized by the phrase 'marriage on the skids'.
  • 🔚 The Lend-Lease system, which provided significant aid to the Soviet Union, was terminated by the U.S. Congress, signaling a shift in American policy and concerns for the Soviets.
  • 🌍 The composition of the 'Big Three' changed with the passing of FDR and Churchill's electoral defeat, introducing Truman and Attlee, who had different relationships with Stalin.
  • 💥 The successful testing of the atomic bomb 'Trinity' during the conference altered U.S. calculations, reducing the perceived need for Soviet cooperation in the Pacific.
  • 💰 Stalin pushed for substantial reparations to rebuild the Soviet Union, proposing a figure of 20 billion dollars, which was seen as exorbitant by the U.S. and UK.
  • 🤝 There was a philosophical divide over Germany's treatment post-war; the West sought a balance between punishment and rehabilitation, while the Soviets emphasized the need for compensation for the devastation they suffered.
  • 🗣️ The conference was marked by high levels of mistrust and a lack of personal rapport, particularly between Truman and Stalin, which hindered negotiations.
  • 📜 The Potsdam Agreement, when reached, was more of a failure than a success, as it did not resolve the core issues of Germany's future or Soviet demands, leading to ongoing tensions.
  • 🕊️ Despite the lack of a grand settlement, the Potsdam Conference did result in the establishment of some post-war structures, such as the Council of Foreign Ministers, which continued to meet to address unresolved issues.

Q & A

  • What was the primary purpose of the Potsdam Conference?

    -The primary purpose of the Potsdam Conference was to carve out a grand settlement in Berlin, the enemy capital, and to revisit the unfinished business of Yalta, with the aim of continuing to not agree, which essentially meant there was no grand settlement.

  • How did the end of the Lend-Lease system impact the Soviet perspective on the Potsdam Conference?

    -From the Soviet perspective, the ending of the Lend-Lease system was seen as a diplomatic signal that the Americans were going to drive a hard line at Potsdam, indicating that they no longer needed the Soviet alliance now that the war was over.

  • What changed significantly in the leadership of the 'Big Three' between World War II and the Potsdam Conference?

    -During World War II, the 'Big Three' consisted of FDR, Churchill, and Stalin. However, by the Potsdam Conference, FDR had passed away and was replaced by Harry Truman, and Churchill lost the election and was replaced by Clement Attlee. This change meant that Stalin was now dealing with two leaders he did not have a relationship with.

  • What was the significance of the Trinity test during the Potsdam Conference?

    -The success of the Trinity test, which was the first detonation of a nuclear bomb by the United States, shifted American calculations at the conference. They no longer felt the need for Soviet assistance to defeat Japan, and this development influenced the negotiations and the eventual stance of the U.S. towards the Soviet Union.

  • What were the main points of contention between Stalin and the Western Allies at Potsdam?

    -The main points of contention included the amount of reparations for the Soviet Union, the future of Germany, and the establishment of free elections in Eastern Europe. The Soviet Union wanted significant monetary reparations and control over Eastern Europe, while the U.S. and Britain wanted to avoid repeating the punitive measures of Versailles and instead sought a balance between punishment and rehabilitation for Germany.

  • How did the differing perspectives on reparations between the Soviet Union and the Western Allies affect the Potsdam Conference?

    -The Soviet Union demanded substantial reparations to rebuild their nation, which had suffered greatly during the war. In contrast, the U.S. and Britain considered the requested amount excessive and unrealistic, leading to a deadlock on the issue and contributing to the overall failure to reach a grand settlement.

  • What was the role of the United States' stance on not seeking territorial gains in their negotiations at Potsdam?

    -The United States' stance on not seeking territorial gains was significant as it highlighted their desire for a different kind of post-war settlement compared to the Soviet Union. This stance was used by Truman to pressure Stalin into considering economic deals instead of territorial compensation.

  • What was the outcome of the Potsdam Conference regarding the future of Germany?

    -The Potsdam Conference did not reach a definitive agreement on the future of Germany. It was decided that Germany would be de-militarized and denazified, but the specifics of how this would be achieved and the broader strategic framework for Germany's integration into Europe were not agreed upon.

  • How did the Potsdam Conference set the stage for the Cold War?

    -The Potsdam Conference set the stage for the Cold War by highlighting the deep ideological and strategic differences between the Soviet Union and the Western Allies. The failure to reach a grand settlement and the subsequent actions by both sides to push their own agendas in the absence of agreement led to increased mutual animosity and the beginning of a prolonged period of rivalry.

  • What was the role of the Council of Foreign Ministers in the aftermath of the Potsdam Conference?

    -The Council of Foreign Ministers was established as an extraordinary mechanism to continue negotiations among the 'Big Three' to hammer out a final settlement for post-war Europe. However, due to the ongoing disagreements and lack of consensus, it became a conduit for tension rather than a successful negotiation platform.

Outlines

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😐 Potsdam Conference: The Beginning of the End for Allied Unity

The first paragraph introduces the Potsdam Conference held in June 1945, shortly after Germany's surrender. It highlights the 'marriage on the skids' theme, indicating the breakdown in relations between Stalin and the Western Allies. The context is set with the end of the Lend-Lease program, which had been a significant aid to the Soviet Union during WWII. The Soviet perspective is that this signaled a shift in American policy towards a harder stance against the Soviets. The paragraph also discusses the change in leadership, with FDR's death and the replacement of Churchill by Attlee, both of which affected the dynamics of the conference.

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😕 The Shift in Power Dynamics at Potsdam

Paragraph two delves into the challenges faced by Stalin at the Potsdam Conference. It discusses the new leadership in the US and UK, with Truman's anti-communist stance and Attlee's lack of rapport with Stalin, creating a difficult situation for the Soviet leader. The paragraph also covers the issue of reparations, with Stalin pushing for significant financial compensation to rebuild the Soviet Union, which had suffered greatly during the war. The climax of the conference is marked by the news of the successful Trinity test (the first nuclear bomb), which shifts American calculations and reduces the perceived need for Soviet cooperation.

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😟 The Failure of the Potsdam Agreement

The third paragraph discusses the failure of the Potsdam Conference to achieve a grand settlement. It outlines the disagreements over the amount of reparations, with Stalin's demand for 20 billion dollars being seen as excessive by the US and UK. The philosophical differences between the West's desire to avoid repeating the punitive measures of Versailles and the Soviet's need for substantial compensation are highlighted. The paragraph also notes the increasing mistrust and the eventual realization by Stalin that the conference was not going to yield the desired outcomes for the Soviet Union.

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😞 The Aftermath of Potsdam: Seeds of the Cold War

Paragraph four explores the consequences of the Potsdam Conference, where no final agreement on the fate of Germany was reached. It discusses the creation of the Council of Foreign Ministers as a mechanism to continue negotiations. The paragraph highlights how the temporary occupation of Germany became a long-term reality and how the inability to agree at Potsdam led to a growing animosity between the superpowers. It also touches on the establishment of international bodies like the United Nations and the initial cooperation that took place despite the tensions.

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🤔 Reflecting on the Grand Alliance: Was a Breakdown Inevitable?

The final paragraph poses a reflective question on whether the breakdown of the Grand Alliance was inevitable. It reviews the historical context from 1941 to 1949, considering moments of understanding and conflict, and asks whether the fundamental differences between Stalin and the West made a peaceful settlement impossible. The paragraph ponders whether the alliance could have survived or if the divergence in interests was too great to overcome.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Potsdam Conference

The Potsdam Conference was a meeting of the leaders of the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Soviet Union towards the end of World War II. Held in Potsdam, Germany, in July–August 1945, the conference focused on the reconstruction of post-war Europe and the treatment of Germany. In the video, the conference is described as a pivotal moment where the 'marriage' between Stalin and the West was on borrowed time, indicating the beginning of the Cold War tensions.

💡Unconditional Surrender

Unconditional surrender refers to the complete and absolute submission of a defeated belligerent to the terms dictated by the victorious party in a war. In the context of the video, Germany's unconditional surrender in May 1945 set the stage for the Potsdam Conference, where the victorious powers aimed to determine the post-war order.

💡Big Three

The term 'Big Three' refers to the leaders of the three major Allied powers during World War II: the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Soviet Union. In the video, the reassembling of the Big Three at Potsdam signifies an attempt to continue their cooperation in shaping the post-war world, despite emerging ideological differences.

💡Lend-Lease System

The Lend-Lease System was a program under which the United States provided military aid to foreign nations during World War II. The video mentions the end of this system as a significant event leading up to Potsdam, signaling a shift in U.S.-Soviet relations and foreshadowing the difficulties that would arise during the conference.

💡Yalta Agreement

The Yalta Agreement refers to the decisions made during the Yalta Conference in February 1945, where the Allies agreed on the occupation zones in post-war Germany, reparations, and the establishment of the United Nations. The video discusses how the Potsdam Conference aimed to revisit and finalize these agreements, but ultimately failed to do so.

💡Reparation

Reparation in the context of the video refers to the compensation demanded by the Soviet Union for the damages incurred during World War II. The Soviet demand for substantial reparations was a major point of contention at Potsdam, reflecting the deep economic and ideological rifts between the Allies.

💡Truman Doctrine

The Truman Doctrine was a foreign policy of the United States that aimed to contain the spread of communism during the Cold War. While not directly mentioned in the video, the doctrine is relevant to the discussion of President Harry Truman's hardline stance against the Soviet Union during the Potsdam Conference, which is a precursor to the broader Cold War policies.

💡Anti-Communism

Anti-Communism refers to opposition to communism as a political ideology. The video highlights the growing anti-communist sentiment in the West, particularly in the United States under President Truman, as a key factor contributing to the tensions and eventual breakdown of cooperation at Potsdam.

💡Council of Foreign Ministers

The Council of Foreign Ministers was an organization established to coordinate the policies of the Allied powers in the aftermath of World War II. The video mentions this body as an 'extraordinary mechanism' created due to the failure to reach a grand settlement at Potsdam, indicating the ongoing diplomatic efforts despite the lack of consensus.

💡Berlin Crisis

The Berlin Crisis refers to a series of crises between 1948 and 1961, during the early years of the Cold War, concerning the status of Berlin. The video suggests that the unresolved issues from Potsdam, particularly regarding Germany's future, contributed to the tensions that led to the Berlin Crisis, marking a further deterioration in relations between the Soviet Union and the West.

💡Grand Settlement

A grand settlement in the context of the video refers to a comprehensive and final agreement among the Allied powers to establish the post-war order. The failure to achieve such a settlement at Potsdam is highlighted as a key reason for the ongoing tensions and the eventual breakdown of the alliance, setting the stage for the Cold War.

Highlights

The Potsdam Conference in June 1945 aimed to carve up a grand settlement in Berlin and revisit unfinished business from Yalta.

The conference was marked by the 'marriage on the skids' between Stalin and the West, indicating a lack of agreement and impending end to their alliance.

The Lend-Lease system's end signaled a change in US-Soviet relations and was seen by the Soviets as a diplomatic signal of the US's hard stance at Potsdam.

The death of FDR and the change in leadership to Harry Truman altered the dynamic of the Big Three, affecting the alliance's stability.

Churchill's replacement by Clement Attlee due to a lost election further complicated the conference, as Attlee had no strong rapport with Stalin.

Stalin faced a difficult situation at Potsdam, trying to negotiate reparations for the heavily damaged Soviet Union.

The successful Trinity test (first nuclear bomb) shifted US calculations, reducing the need for Soviet cooperation in defeating Japan.

The US and UK wanted free elections in Eastern Europe, while the Soviet Union sought financial reparations.

The Potsdam Agreement was essentially dead on arrival due to the major parties having already achieved their principal war aims.

The conference ended without a grand settlement, leading to the establishment of the Council of Foreign Ministers to continue negotiations.

The inability to agree on the German question and the future of Eastern Europe highlighted the deep divisions between the参会国家.

The Potsdam Conference's failure to bridge differences at Yalta set the stage for post-war tensions and the eventual Cold War.

Despite the tensions, the Soviet Union and the West remained partners in the establishment of new international bodies like the United Nations.

The Potsdam Conference's outcome was a skeletal agreement that became the building block for post-war Europe.

The Berlin Crisis later marked the final divorce settlement, with the Yalta agreement becoming the blueprint for post-war Europe by default.

The Grand Alliance from 1941 to 1949 had moments of understanding and low points, with the question of whether it could have survived being a matter of historical debate.

Transcripts

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this lecture is entitled potsdam

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marriage on the skids in other words our

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subject matter is to look at the potsdam

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conference in june 1945

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a few weeks after germany's

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unconditional surrender

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uh the big three are reassembling again

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to

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essentially carve up a grand

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settlement in berlin the enemy capital

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and to revisit the unfinished business

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of

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yalta

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and as you can

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see from the title marriage on the skids

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the potsdam

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agreement which

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does come to fruition

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is

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in essence

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an agreement to continue to not agree

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and as a result

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there is no grand settlement

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and

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essentially the marriage between stalin

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and the west is on

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borrowed time

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now to start this uh lecture we need to

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put uh our context uh put ourselves in

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the context of what went on uh before

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uh particularly in june 1945. just a few

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days before the

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conference's formal

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inauguration

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the u.s congress

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brought to an end the lend lease

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system that was providing the soviet

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union with significant amounts of aid

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whether it was in the form of

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natural resources

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industrial goods

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rubber

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trucks

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this came

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to an end now if you look at the actual

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law as it passed in congress

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it was slated to end

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because it was

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by nature an

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extraordinary measure

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that would come to an end once the

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hostilities had ended which they did in

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may 1945.

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however from the soviet perspective the

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ending of the led lease system which had

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been a vital lifeline to the red army

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during world war ii

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was sending a diplomatic signal

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that the americans were going to drive a

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hard message at

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potsdam

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uh with the war over they no longer had

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any need

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for

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the soviet uh alliance

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and as stalin had always suspected

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the west would reshift to its

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anti-communist

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position

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now another thing that dramatically

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changed

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was the cast

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because during world war ii the big

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three had consisted of fdr

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churchill and stalin

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and they had led their prospective

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states

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through the various vagaries of war

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and in particular fdr had played a very

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vital role as diplomat that was probably

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arguably

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his greatest skill

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in fact at the tehran conference one of

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the things that fdr had made a point of

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doing

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was poking fun f churchill

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in front of stalin which immediately

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created a little bit of a bond between

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fdr and stalin

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and it was sending of course an

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important signal that despite the

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special relationship between britain and

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the united states in fact a relationship

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that was unprecedented in the way that

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they had

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integrated their armed forces

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that nonetheless the united states

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accepted stalin as a real

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partner

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with fdr gone not only was this

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important

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glue to the big three missing

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but now he was replaced by

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harry truman the plane spoken missourian

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who had some very unpolitical

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comments

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during hitler's invasion of uh

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of uh russia

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so

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from the perspective of stalin who had

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no relationship to truman

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the removal of fdr

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the replacement of new deal socialists

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with

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harry truman's brand of evangelical

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anti-communism

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was a

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matter of concern

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and just one week into the conference

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churchill as well had to bid adieu puska

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because

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he had lost an election a landslide to

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the labor party he was replaced by

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clement atlee

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and

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although clement atlee was a socialist

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he was not a person that had

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any great rapport

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with

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stalin

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now across the bargaining paper table

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were essentially

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two strangers

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including an american

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president

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who had drawn a very hard line

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with foreign secretary molotov before

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the potsdam

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meeting

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so it was very clear to stalin

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that at podstam he was dealing with a

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difficult

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situation

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he tried to drive a hard bargain in

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terms of achieving particularly now

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reparations to rebuild the soviet union

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for about a week he brought back the

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yalta agreement which had been tabled

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and the idea of 8 million

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dollars in reparations for

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the soviet union

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and

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then the potsdam conference kind of uh

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reached its

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climax because

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in the midst of the conference an aide

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went to henry truman's ear

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and whispered that trinity was a success

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in other words the united states had

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developed a nuclear bomb

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now the american calculations which have

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prevailed at yalta shifted

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they no longer believe that they needed

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the red army to defeat japan in fact

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they saw

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soviet interference in asia now as

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problematic as the soviet

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uh behavior in eastern europe

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made it seem that they would be

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difficult to reach a deal with them and

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they were trying to expand

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soviet influence across

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the world

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on the other hand although

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the united states did not feel like it

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needed the soviet union anymore it could

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not get anything from them

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the united states had to acknowledge as

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it was drawing its troops from europe

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that the red army had its troops all

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throughout eastern europe the red army

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could not be dislodged so no matter what

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the united states may want

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relative to poland and the future of

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eastern europe the fact of the matter is

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is that stalin controlled

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their destiny

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so what we can see is that the potsdam

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conference which had as its you know

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unofficial mission

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to create a grand settlement to deal the

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unresolved issues of yalta there was

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really very little chance that it could

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ever do that what made matters worse is

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that the

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sides mistrusted each other

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particularly the antipathy between

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truman and stalin was very high

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at one point in his diary uh stalin

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noted that truman is worthless

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expressing essentially his frustration

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that

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truman was not willing to provide

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american assistance to rebuild the

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soviet union that had done the heavy

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lifting

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for the war and that had played the

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major role in defeating nazi germany

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in essence though the potsdam

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agreement was dead on arrival

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because all of the major parties had

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already achieved their principal war

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aims in particular

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nazi germany was defeated

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uh the west uh united states had

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liberated western europe the soviet

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union had a buffer zone now in eastern

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europe and you know essentially what

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they wanted the soviet union wanted you

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know american money

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the united states and britain wanted

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free elections in eastern europe that

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was kind of gravy that they would like

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to achieve

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but the only way to achieve it is if the

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other party consented to it and the

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other party wasn't willing to so in

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essence the potsdam agreement was at an

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impasse and there was no way or formula

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for removing the log jam

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now if we look at the pot stem agreement

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itself

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what we can see that was really disputed

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over these two and a half weeks uh was

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the reparations uh formula

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uh 20 billion dollars had been you know

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kind of outlined as a figure by stalin

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the united states and

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britain had come to the calculation that

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you know germany was perhaps worth eight

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billion dollars so that this figure was

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outlandish and fagtastical an invention

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of soviet negotiators for leverage uh to

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get deal or money loans from the united

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states

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another thing though wasn't just the

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reparations issue was also kind of a

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philosophical issue

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from the west there was this sense that

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they didn't want to repeat the mistakes

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of versailles that you would so punish

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your enemy

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that in a way by driving a hard bargain

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you would defeat yourself by creating so

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much animosity

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in your

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defeated enemy

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that they wouldn't accept the deal so

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what you wanted to do is to come up with

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a formula that you know punished germany

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but also rehabilitated them so that they

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would become partners for the peace

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now from the soviet perspective this

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whole

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philosophy

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was uh alien

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novel

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uh you know

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flagrantly selfish

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uh because the way that world war ii had

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played out uh most of the devastation

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was in eastern europe uh the united

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states had suffered almost no war damage

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so a you know magnanimous piece

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might be uh you know something that was

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you know morally laudable

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but this was uh overlooking the fact

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that the soviet union was devastated

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and that you know the soviet union or

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that hitler had launched a verdicting

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creek on uh soviet territory you know

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butchering uh civilians starving to

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death russian pows how could you be

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magnanimous against such an evil uh

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empire

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so there was a lot of bickering where

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the west was trying to insist on you

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know the atlantic charter and free

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elections in eastern europe and stalin

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was demanding monetary representations

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essentially went on for about a week

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each side presenting proposals not

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reaching agreement and then there was

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you know essentially the truman moment

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where he stared down

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stalin and said you know i've been

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listening to you asking for compensation

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you know i want to remind you the united

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states is not getting anything out of

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this deal we're not accepting any

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territory

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and we gave you territory you know at

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tehran we agreed to move

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poland uh to the west so you already

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have

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your compensation now

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if if you want to negotiate a loan or

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some deal from the united states we're

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prepared to enter into an agreement to

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that effect we'll negotiate with you but

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then you have to give up your

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territorial compensation

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and essentially when it was pushed to

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that point

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stalin realized that it was a dead

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letter essentially forced into a binary

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choice

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territory or perhaps a future economic

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deal

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he took the bird in his hand

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rather than you know

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two birds in in the future

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and uh

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you know in this sense uh potsdam was a

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failure it was a failure because they

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weren't able to essentially bridge the

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differences that had appeared at yalta

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and stalin felt that he had been

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betrayed and cheated that the soviet

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union didn't get what they

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deserved and as a result even though he

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agrees to you know a very skinny potsdam

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deal

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he's continually trying to revise it

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through various pressure

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tactics in germany iran

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and

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turkey so it essentially poisons the

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post-war relationship and sets the stage

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for the later uh divorce

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so in this sense the potsdam agreement

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they do come up with an agreement you

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can you can read the document and see

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the the terms of it

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uh but what is uh you know despite all

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the things that they agree on what's

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really uh striking is that they don't

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really agree on the big uh questions at

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least for for the most part particularly

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the german question

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uh you know how is germany going to be

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you know a one-hand weekend but also

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reintegrated into the european strategic

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framework this was a very big question

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probably all of the parties had arrived

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at potsdam with the idea that germany

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would be de militarized denatified and

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probably de-industrialized but at the

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end of the conference they hadn't

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reached an agreement on that

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formula

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so in other words

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a grand settlement a final piece

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was not agreed upon and they had to

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create this extraordinary mechanism the

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council of foreign ministers that would

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continue to meet

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as representatives of the big three to

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hammer out

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this

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deal

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but

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in essence because they weren't able to

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agree to a final settlement they were

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all still occupying germany

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and with time the delta map which was

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just supposed to be provisional and

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skeletal really a bare bones agreement

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essentially became the building block

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for uh post-war

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uh europe

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and you know as times went on you know

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the the the inability to agree at

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potsdam there was no way to really

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reconcile these differences

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so both sides were trying to come up

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with a grand settlement without you know

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willing to concede to the other what

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they wanted it created a situation of

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mutual animosity that poisoned uh

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post-war uh just uh you know diplomacy

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and we'll look at that you know that

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cycle in the next module

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but essentially the berlin crisis

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marks the final divorce settlement

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and in this divorce settlement

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since there was no substantial progress

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at potsdam

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the yalta agreement by default

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became the bedrock or blueprint for

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post-war europe

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now if you look at it on the more

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positive side uh from 45 to 48 as

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acrimonious as stalin's relationship was

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the west

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they did remain

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partners in other words you know

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at a basic level they they accepted the

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broad parameters and the deals that they

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negotiated well they were allies the the

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alliance didn't formally end even if

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they were working within the structure

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of their alliance for you know to get

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what they they they wanted

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now as a result of that uh you know the

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atlantic order was able to come in uh

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the

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essentially the united nations uh was

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you know established in san francisco in

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1945 and the soviet union became a

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member with a veto arrangement

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but stalin set out a lot of other

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international bodies like the breton

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woods system uh both sides accepted the

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ulta boundaries uh they

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pulled their troops back to the yelta

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lines they jointly occupied germany on

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the other hand the acc became a you know

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essentially a

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mechanism or a conduit for tension

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because since they weren't

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getting along

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they used all mechanisms that were there

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together to try to

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push their rival for their own

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advantage

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so

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one example of this is that the acc

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quickly breaks down

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because the soviet union refuses to

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transport coal and wheat and food to the

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western urban areas of

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germany

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uh now the soviet union participates in

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nuremberg there's a few embarrassing

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moments when essentially the nazis bring

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up the katin forest massacre the the

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soviet union however uh

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does not block the declaration of human

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rights

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uh but they don't sign it uh either they

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they essentially just abstain

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uh from it so you know enough enough of

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the cooperation emerged that this new

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international system was established and

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this was probably a good thing

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on the other hand this new order was

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uh flawed

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uh it had been predicated on the idea of

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continued soviet u.s cooperation and

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instead

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the two leading superpowers were at odds

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ends and bickering for mutual supremacy

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so looking at you know the grand

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alliance from roughly 1941 to uh 1949

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when it was essentially formally

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dissolved

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looking at these twists and turns the

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moments of you know maximum

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understanding the moscow decoration in

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1943

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you know the low point you know maybe

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yalta or maybe potsdam when uh you know

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truman called out stalin

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uh you know what is your read on this

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was there any way for the grand alliance

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to survive

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uh the achievement of its you know it's

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essentially the the goal of the alliance

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the destruction of hitler's germany was

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there any way that the soviet union

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united states could have despite their

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differences reached an accommodation a

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basic agreement a grand settlement

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or you know was you know essentially the

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differences between stalin the west so

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fundamental their

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their interests so incompatible

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that you know essentially some type of

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divorce

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uh a reset to a more normal

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rivalry was all but baked into the cake

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