P1 | Christian Homeschool Speech and Debate Students and Sheikh Uthman | One Message Foundation

Summary

In this discussion, the speaker addresses questions about the Quran's teachings on human creation. They explain that Allah created Adam from nothing, mud, and clay, and from Adam came mankind. The conversation also touches on the Quranic description of human development, distinguishing between the creation of Adam and regular human birth, involving a clinging clot. The speaker further discusses Islamic beliefs on abortion, the soul's entry into the fetus, and how this affects the definition of murder. The conversation then shifts to early Christian manuscripts, their origins, and the reliability of the Gospels.

Takeaways

• 🕌 The speaker discusses the creation of mankind according to the Quran, with Adam being the first human.
• 🧱 Allah created Adam from mud, which was turned into clay, emphasizing that man was made from nothing initially.
• 💉 The Quran describes the regular creation of humans from a clinging clot of blood, referring to the stages of human development in the womb.
• 🔄 There is a distinction between Adam’s creation and the regular development of humans in the womb, with Adam being created directly from clay.
• 🧬 Human beings in the womb go through stages, including a leech-like clot stage, symbolizing the early stages of embryonic development.
• 🌬 The soul is believed to be breathed into the fetus during the first trimester, marking the point when it is considered a human being in Islamic belief.
• 🚫 Abortion is generally prohibited in Islam unless there is a serious health concern, but it’s not considered murder before the soul is breathed into the fetus.
• 📖 The Quran and Hadith provide guidance on human creation and stages of development, with Hadith explaining further details like the soul being breathed into the fetus.
• 📜 The speaker discusses differences between the Quranic Injil, the original message given to Jesus, and the Christian Gospels, which were written later.
• 📚 There’s a discussion about biblical texts and authorship, highlighting the uncertainty around who wrote certain New Testament books, such as Hebrews.

Q & A

What does the Quran say about the origin of mankind?

The Quran states that Allah created mankind, starting with Adam. Adam was created from mud, clay, and then formed into a human. Eve was created from Adam, and from them came mankind.

How does the Quran describe the creation of Adam?

Adam was created from nothing initially, then Allah took mud from different parts of the Earth. This mud was formed into clay, and from that clay, Adam was created as a complete human form.

What does the Quran say about the creation of regular humans?

Regular humans are described as being created from a 'clinging clot,' referring to the stages of human development in the womb, which begins with a clot of blood.

What is the difference between Adam's creation and the creation of regular humans according to the speaker?

Adam's creation was unique, formed directly from clay and mud. In contrast, regular humans are born from a water-like substance and develop in stages within the womb, starting from a clinging clot.

What does the speaker mean by a 'clinging clot' in relation to human development?

The 'clinging clot' refers to the early stages of human development in the womb when the embryo attaches to the wall of the womb. It is not a literal leech but something that clings to the womb.

What does the speaker say about when life begins in the womb according to Islamic teachings?

Life begins when the soul is breathed into the fetus, which occurs around the first trimester. After this, the fetus is considered a human, and aborting it would be considered equivalent to murder.

What is the Islamic ruling on abortion before the soul is breathed into the fetus?

Abortion before the soul is breathed is still considered wrong, but it is not viewed as murder. Exceptions can be made for medical reasons or if the mother's health is at risk.

How does Islamic law view harm caused to a fetus in early pregnancy?

Before the soul is breathed into the fetus, harming it would not be considered manslaughter or murder. However, after the soul is breathed into the fetus, any harm leading to its death would be treated as murder.

What is the speaker’s response to the question about the Quran's reference to a clot of blood in human creation?

The speaker clarifies that the clot of blood refers to the development of regular humans, not Adam. Adam’s creation was from mud and clay, whereas the clot refers to the stages of human development in the womb.

What does the speaker say about the Gospels and their origins?

The speaker explains that the Gospels were written after Jesus, not during his life. They are not the original message (Injeel) given to Jesus but are later writings attributed to his apostles, with no manuscripts from the first Christian century.

Outlines

00:00

🕌 The Creation of Mankind According to the Quran

In this section, the speaker discusses the Islamic perspective on the origin of mankind as described in the Quran. Allah, referred to by different names, created the first human, Adam, from nothing. Adam was formed from mud or clay, and from him, Eve was created, leading to the birth of mankind. The speaker clarifies that this creation is different from regular human birth, where humans develop from a blood clot in the womb. The discussion highlights the differences between the creation of Adam and the process of human birth, emphasizing that Adam was created as a fully formed being.

05:02

📜 Stages of Development and Abortion in Islam

The conversation shifts towards the stages of human development in the womb and Islamic views on abortion. The speaker explains that there are specific stages, and after a certain point (around the first trimester), the soul is breathed into the fetus, marking it as a human being. Prior to this, abortion is still considered wrong, but it is not equated to murder. After the soul is present, terminating the fetus is seen as equivalent to murder. The speaker provides an example of Islamic rulings in cases of accidental harm to a pregnant woman, stating that manslaughter charges would only apply once the soul has entered the fetus.

Keywords

💡Quran

The Quran is the holy book of Islam, believed by Muslims to be a divine revelation from God (Allah) to the Prophet Muhammad. In the video, the speaker refers to the Quran to explain the origins of mankind, describing how it states that Allah created the first human, Adam, from clay or mud.

💡Adam

Adam is considered the first human being created by Allah in Islamic belief, as described in the Quran. The video discusses how Adam was created from nothing, followed by mud and clay, highlighting the Islamic perspective on the origin of humanity.

💡Eve

Eve is the first woman in Islamic tradition, created from Adam. She is mentioned in the video as part of the discussion on human origins, where from Adam and Eve came all of humankind.

💡Mud and Clay

Mud and clay are described in the video as the materials from which Adam, the first human, was created according to the Quran. The speaker explains that Allah formed Adam first from nothing, then mud gathered from different parts of the earth, which was then shaped into clay.

💡Clinging Clot

A 'clinging clot' refers to a stage in the development of a human embryo, as mentioned in the Quran. In the video, this term is used to distinguish the creation of regular humans from the special creation of Adam. It signifies the early stages of human formation in the womb, where the embryo attaches to the uterine wall.

💡Soul Breathing

The concept of 'soul breathing' in Islamic theology refers to the point during fetal development when the soul is believed to be instilled into the fetus. The speaker mentions this as a defining moment when the fetus becomes a human being, which affects the Islamic stance on abortion rights.

💡Hadith

Hadith are the sayings, actions, and approvals of the Prophet Muhammad, used as a source of Islamic law and theology. In the video, the speaker mentions that some Islamic teachings about human development and creation are found in the Hadith literature, which includes various collections like Sahih Bukhari and Abu Dawood.

💡Injeel

The Injeel is the Islamic term for the original Gospel message believed to have been given to Jesus (Isa in Islam). The video mentions that the Injeel is not the same as the New Testament Gospels, which were written later and are considered by Muslims to be not the original message sent to Jesus.

💡Abortion in Islam

Abortion in Islam is discussed in the video concerning the point at which a fetus is considered a human being. The speaker explains that abortion is generally forbidden unless there is a significant medical reason, and it is only considered 'murder' after the soul has been breathed into the fetus.

💡Bart Ehrman

Bart Ehrman is a scholar of the New Testament and early Christianity mentioned in the video. The speaker references him in the context of discussing the reliability and dating of the New Testament manuscripts, implying that the Gospels were not written during Jesus' time and raising questions about their authenticity.

Highlights

Allah created mankind, first being Adam, then from Adam came Eve, and from them, humanity was born.

The Quran mentions that Adam was created from nothing, then mud, and clay.

There is a distinction between the creation of Adam and regular human birth.

Adam was created fully formed from clay, not as a baby.

Regular human creation involves stages of development in the womb from a 'clinging clot.'

The 'clinging clot' refers to a stage in the womb where a human develops.

The soul is breathed into the fetus after a certain period, marking it as a human being.

Abortion before the soul is breathed is wrong but not considered murder in Islam.

Abortion after the soul is breathed into the fetus is treated as murder in Islamic law.

Islam allows abortion if there is a medical reason or danger to the mother's health.

The Quran describes the stages of fetal development, starting from a 'leech-like clot.'

The leech-like clot refers to something clinging to the womb, not an actual leech.

In Islamic rulings, harming a fetus after the soul has been breathed into it is considered manslaughter.

Islamic rulings differentiate between early fetal development and the later stages where the soul is present.

The Hadith and Islamic texts guide these interpretations, with the soul breathed around the first trimester.

Transcripts

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allah how are you good how are you good

good

all right so you're just taking

questions sure all right so um

i was just wondering what did the quran

say about where man came from

specifically good question man so um

allah the creator whether you know him

through many different names the most

merciful most forgiving whatever name

you know him through he created mankind

first one being adam right from adam he

created eve and from them came mankind

but where did he make adam from

from nothing allah made it as he did

what does the sarah say four different

times that he made man from nothing from

clay from mud and some blood no because

see the first is that allah there was

nothing then allah

chose to from nothing i mean there was

nothing then he chose to get mud from

all over the earth right from different

types so in the beginning nothing then

from that mud that was put together then

that was formed into clay right and then

from a clinging clot this is this has to

do with regular humans right meaning

that regularly people are born from a

water or that comes forth right

do you understand the difference or no

are you done did

so first there was nothing nothing right

meaning from nothing

created from the mud the clay yes

blood clot is actually about regular

birth this is about insane not about

adam alaysa now right doesn't the sarah

say that

the creator made

from blood

man meaning man every every person who's

born is from a clot of blood like this

that goes and becomes you know when it's

i don't get too graphic here young kids

right but anyway so

one is the beginning of how mankind

started with adam with adam and that is

where you have first nothing and then

clay that's put together formed into a

human form right into mud from mud but

not like mud like from the dirt dirt

right like just like for example we have

gin that are made out of fire but it

doesn't mean like fire like the one you

light on your oven right this is the

building block from there allah made

adam as he was meaning in a full form he

wasn't a little baby in things like this

but the quran also talks about how

people are regularly created right the

stages of development in the womb from a

clinging leech right people who don't

know the quran they confuse those to

mean that they think this is the same

discussion right meaning one is the

original man you look at the context of

the verses right one is how regularly

people are developed and the clot of

blood this is for everybody

you understand that yeah all right good

did you refer to the clot as a leech

it leaches to the side of the womb right

so it's a leaching thing not not a leech

like a leech that you know you get

drinks your blood but something that

clings to the side of the womb is it

considered a human

so it's a good question i mean we i

think you're going down to the

discussion about abortion and abortion

rights and things

the thing about the clot

i hear often

we believe that there are stages in the

womb of the mother right and there is a

stage that after a certain period of

time the soul is breathed into the into

the

fetus right from then on that's a human

being but even before that we don't

believe you can abort without reason

unless there's danger to health or you

know some kind of a

actual medical reason that is the

beginning of life right

so what stage of development

does so we have stages there are four

stages the after the first stage was

going to be around the first trimester

you're going to have the soul that's

breathed into the into the fetus and

from then on

that would be as if it's murder right so

what while it's still in the first stage

it's okay it's not okay as i said

earlier but it's not a human but it's

not a murder right meaning that for

example if somebody has a uh medical any

uh hardship it's not it's not like it's

not going to be a life-threatening

emergency but somebody uh for example

knows that if they get pregnant

the blood loss and things are going to

be huge and they are bored in the first

trimester it's still wrong islamically

but we would not charge them with murder

but after the soul is breathed then that

fetus has developed features and all of

that then if you if you convert like

abortion it would be like murder right

the same rulings would apply

let me give you an example right let's

say a woman has just got pregnant like

last week and somebody hits her the car

right now are you gonna charge them with

manslaughter of one person or two

right so here islamically until the soul

is breathed it's still one person right

until the soul

is breath into the fetus right so after

that then islamically they would be

charged with two

right meaning i mean you can't take it

back too far because otherwise i mean if

somebody you know

spills their doesn't mean that they just

somebody right

but there is a time after which the

fetus will be considered a human being

right

i'm just curious

like what what like specific verses

it's a hadith

you know what it is

what book are you talking about

hadith is not one book right hadith are

the sayings

saying the prophet muhammad peace be

upon him we have many books like bukhari

abu dhabi

some are weak we checked them for

verification

so one is the angel right injeel is a

name given to the message that was sent

to isabel

you know jesus yes the original message

of jesus called the injib

okay so those include the gospels right

no because the injeel is the actual

message given to the prophet jesus right

the gospel is written later as you know

right i mean there are not the writings

of jesus or even the apostles around him

right they're attributed to that

right

the gospels the ones that were written

in the first century they were not

during the first i mean you know the

earliest greek you know what

how many manuscripts of the new

testament do we have from the first

christian century

none

written in the first century they were

not

so what is the earliest manuscripts

um they were about 30 years after yeah

yeah have you read like bart ehrman or

any kind of research on this

new testament who does believe who

yeah he's a new testament bart ehrman

actually the latest ones are

attributed to

uh john

like revelation so like for example

for example hebrews right the book of

hebrews who wrote it

we're not exactly sure but it's right

so it's anonymous actually right because

we don't know who wrote it

right so

we don't actually know then right

the other gospels the actual gospels we

do know holy authors were and that for

example paul writes that 500 brothers

are still living paul being soul

originally right what paul who the

original name saul right yes

yeah all right so meaning but paul never

physically met jesus right only in a

vision right right but he also was

living at the same time with the

apostles and he was quoting tweets that

were

but they're not direct writings of the

apostles then

what language did he write it in

i think it was great so mark spoke greek

or did he speak aramaic

or hebrew i don't remember exactly which

one it was written

okay but

they

were written

during that time

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