How An Interrogation Expert Spots A LIAR - Chase Hughes
Summary
TLDRThis transcript discusses techniques for detecting deception, emphasizing the importance of observing changes in behavior rather than relying on specific indicators. It highlights the significance of context and clusters of behaviors when identifying lies. The speaker shares strategies like raising the stakes through questioning and using 'bait' and 'punishment' questions to provoke a response that may reveal deception. These methods are applicable in various settings, including everyday life and professional interrogations.
Takeaways
- 🔍 Look for changes in behavior: Paying attention to shifts in a person's responses, eye movements, or breathing patterns can indicate deception.
- 🧩 Understand the importance of context: A person's behavior might be influenced by external factors, so it's crucial to consider the situation before drawing conclusions.
- 👀 Focus on clusters of behavior: A single behavior doesn't necessarily indicate lying; it's the pattern of multiple behaviors that can signal deception.
- 📈 Raise the stakes to increase deception indicators: Higher stakes can amplify a person's stress and make deception cues more apparent.
- 🤔 Ask good questions: Effective questioning can be a powerful tool in detecting deception, especially when the questions are designed to provoke a response.
- 🪤 Use bait questions: These are hypothetical questions that can catch a liar off guard, making them reveal their deception.
- 👶 Adapt techniques for children: The 'punishment question' is effective for children, asking them what should happen to the person who did something wrong.
- 💡 Recognize the emotional aspect: People often visualize the consequences of their actions when faced with questions about potential punishment, which can reveal their involvement.
- 🔑 Key to confessions: Understanding the psychological aspects of deception and the right way to ask questions can lead to obtaining confessions.
- 📚 Learning from experience: The speaker's personal anecdotes and professional experience emphasize the practical application of these techniques in real-life scenarios.
Q & A
What is the most important aspect of detecting deception according to the speaker?
-The most important aspect of detecting deception, as per the speaker, is being good at detecting changes in a person's behavior during a conversation.
Why did the speaker consider learning all the deception indicators a mistake?
-The speaker considered it a mistake because focusing solely on individual indicators can be misleading. Instead, detecting changes in behavior is more reliable in identifying deception.
How does the speaker suggest using the context to understand body language better?
-The speaker suggests considering the context, such as the environment or situation, to interpret body language accurately, as it can affect a person's behavior, like crossing arms due to cold rather than defensiveness.
What is the significance of looking for clusters of behaviors according to the transcript?
-Looking for clusters of behaviors is significant because a single behavior does not necessarily indicate deception; it is the combination of multiple behaviors that can suggest dishonesty.
How does raising the stakes affect the detection of deception?
-Raising the stakes increases the likelihood of detecting deception because higher stress and anxiety can lead to more noticeable changes in behavior and body language.
What is a 'bait question' as described in the transcript?
-A 'bait question' is a type of question that presents a hypothetical scenario related to the suspected deception, aiming to provoke a reaction that could indicate guilt or awareness of the situation.
How can the 'punishment question' be used to detect deception in children, as mentioned in the script?
-The 'punishment question' involves asking children what they think should happen to the person who committed a certain act. Their response can reveal their awareness or involvement in the act.
What is the psychological impact of the 'punishment question' on both children and adults?
-The 'punishment question' can cause psychological stress in both children and adults by making them visualize the consequences of getting caught, which may lead to revealing their involvement in the act.
Why is it important to ask good questions when trying to detect deception, according to the speaker?
-Asking good questions is important because it can increase the stakes and provoke a response that reveals deception, as opposed to just observing behavior.
How does the speaker use their military uniform to influence the conversation with their children in the script?
-The speaker uses their military uniform to create a sense of authority and seriousness when questioning their children about a misdeed, which can increase the effectiveness of the 'punishment question'.
Outlines
🕵️♂️ Detecting Deception: Behavior and Context
The speaker emphasizes the importance of detecting changes in behavior as a key to identifying deception. They recount their experience of learning various deception indicators, which they compiled into a 'periodic table.' However, they stress that recognizing changes in a person's behavior during a conversation is more crucial than memorizing specific indicators. The speaker advises looking for consistency in responses and body language, such as eye movements, finger gestures, and breathing patterns. Understanding the context in which certain behaviors occur is also highlighted, as it can provide insight into whether a behavior is deceptive or simply a response to the environment. The concept of 'clusters' of behaviors is introduced, where a single behavior is not enough to conclude deception; instead, a pattern or cluster of behaviors is necessary. The speaker also discusses the impact of 'stakes' on deception indicators, suggesting that increasing the stakes of a situation can amplify the signs of deception.
👶 Using Deception Detection with Children
The speaker provides examples of how to apply deception detection techniques in everyday life, particularly with children. They recount personal anecdotes from their childhood and their experience as a parent, highlighting the use of 'bait questions' and 'punishment questions' to elicit truthful responses. The 'punishment question' is described as a method to provoke an emotional response that can reveal whether a child is lying. The speaker shares a story of using this technique at home with their children, Charlotte and William, after finding an open box of chocolate milk spilled on the carpet. By asking each child what should happen to the person responsible for the spill, the speaker was able to discern who was responsible based on their responses. The speaker concludes by noting that both children and adults react similarly to these types of questions, as they provoke an internal visualization of the scenario and its potential consequences.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Deception
💡Indicators
💡Change Detection
💡Context
💡Clusters
💡Stakes
💡Bait Question
💡Punishment Question
💡Behavioral Analysis
💡Ramping Up
Highlights
Indicators for detecting lies include changes in behavior, such as eye movement, finger gestures, and breathing patterns.
The importance of being adept at detecting changes in behavior rather than memorizing specific indicators.
The significance of context in interpreting body language and behaviors.
The concept of 'clusters' in detecting deception, where a single behavior is not enough to indicate a lie.
The impact of stakes on the visibility of deception indicators, with higher stakes leading to more noticeable signs.
Techniques for raising the stakes in a conversation to elicit more telling reactions.
The effectiveness of 'bait questions' in detecting deception by introducing hypothetical scenarios.
The use of vagueness in bait questions to increase their effectiveness.
Applying bait questions to everyday situations, such as with children, to uncover the truth.
The 'punishment question' as a method to gauge a child's potential involvement in an incident.
How emotional responses to punishment questions can reveal a person's involvement or awareness.
The psychological impact of raising stakes and visualizing potential consequences on a person's behavior.
The importance of asking good questions in the process of detecting deception.
The practical application of deception detection techniques in various contexts, including law enforcement and parenting.
The potential for deception indicators to be influenced by external factors, emphasizing the need for context awareness.
The periodic table of deception indicators as a comprehensive tool for understanding and detecting lies.
Transcripts
what are some things we need look for to
spot people who are lying there are some
indicators that are pretty well known
and I'll give you a couple of those but
I think it's the biggest mistake I ever
made in my life was spending a 10 Years
Learning all of those indicators I've
built a periodic table of this stuff uh
which you've seen we've seen it
and so when it comes to these indicators
those are important what's really
important is being good at detecting
change so the conversation starts
normally where you from when are you do
some basic information I'm getting out
of this person and then we get to the
harder questions and I'm looking for
changes to their behavior are they
answering questions the same way that
they were a few minutes ago are their
eyes moving the same way are their
fingers doing the same thing are they
breathing the at the same speed so
looking for changes is more important
than knowing what behaviors to look for
so if I see a big pile of
changes I can be almost certain that
this person is being decept it without
even knowing what I'm really seeing so
getting good at changes is the first and
most important thing then understanding
context and clusters so context meaning
like well this person uh is crossing
their arms it must be defensive well
what if it's 50° outside and they're
freezing cold so there's context that
that plays in so then understanding
context and then clusters I'm going to
look for not just one behavior when
somebody says oh somebody scratched
their nose or they touched their face
they're lying or they looked away for a
minute they're lying one Behavior never
indicates deception by itself it never
should you should always see a cluster
of behavior and sometimes someone's
lying and those behaviors aren't there
they're just not
there and that has to go that goes into
Stakes are you good enough to ask
questions to raise the stakes so if I
give you a picture of a duck right now
and tell you convince this person over
here that you are looking at a picture
of a horse you're not going to show a
lot of deception indicates but if I do
the exact same thing can I say if you
don't do this I'm going to put a bullet
in your head you're doing the exact same
lie the exact same situation now the
stakes are higher so that your deception
indicators are are increased ined so
like one of the ways that we might
increase Stakes is something as simple
as me saying Morgan I like you as a
person
and I don't want you to get tripped up
so I want you to think very carefully
before you answer this question you
understand that so now the stakes go up
so I've I've just pumped up your body
language with just a little paragraph
there yeah so then it's going to make it
me more sensitive to any sort of
deceptive patents absolutely ramping up
your brain yeah uh before the question
comes so that and if you're innocent
your brain's not going to get ramped up
yeah so if a murder took place and you
know you're not the killer you're going
to be like yeah okay fine that question
won't cause you any
stress just it's just like this other
question when we talking about detecting
deception it's not just about Behavior
it's about can you ask good
questions and one of the best questions
in the world is called a bait
question and this is where let's say a
crime happened let's say some $10,000
was stolen from a a grocery store or
something and I've got you in here as a
suspect uh and you did it let's say you
did
it
and I might say morning is there any
reason that you can think of that a
video would have showed up from a black
and white camera maybe a a security
camera that showed that you took the
money and if you knew there were no
video cameras you'd say no you'd be
comfortable right so then I make it more
vague and I say more is there any reason
that somebody would have say that they
saw your car parked outside that store
that
evening and you don't know how many
people I've talked to and the only time
that you will get nervous is if you were
there true and you don't and you know
that if you're going to commit to lying
and I'm about to slam you in the face
with Le it so you don't know if I'm
about to do that that's why that bay
question is so important it works with
kids and the second way to do the way to
do the B question is is there any reason
blah blah blah might have happened so
you never are leading them you're not
saying I have this evidence ever
hypothetical is there any reason
somebody would have told one of our
officers or one of our investigators
that they saw you parked outside of that
house or they saw you at around 9 :15
p.m. um so the more vague the better it
is so how would you use that you said
with kids so how would you use that with
with say your children in completely
different context in like an everyday
life yeah give me a lie I I'll tell you
good question well you have kids what
what lies the kids say well things what
I used to say was I gave my parents
heart attacks when we growing up man of
times the police came to the door um I
don't know it was just always that it
wasn't me I didn't do it I wasn't there
yeah so one thing uh is there any reason
somebody would have seen you or is there
any reason someone would say that you
might be there uh is great for kids the
best one for kids is is called the
punishment question and this is what do
you think should happen to the person
that did
this
and so this has been used uh in my life
uh talking to predators and these are
people that pray on children M and I
would say well what do you think should
happen to the person that did this and
the answer is always something like well
definitely they should apologize to the
F we they didn't need some kind of
counseling something like really lower
yeah ridiculous and they'll they'll say
things like obviously that person's sick
and they need help and they need some
kind of counseling and
therapy uh and at on my kids I used this
before so when I was in the military I
come home in my uniform one day like the
little camo for walking in and there's
little box of chocolate milk right it's
opened and it's just laying on inside
all this chocolate milk is just we had a
white rug like an idiot it with kids
and my two kids Charlotte and William
are in there they're probably five and
six somewhere around there and I was
like who brought this milk here in the
Liv you're not supposed to have milk in
here just water and they're like no no
no I look at my son I don't know I'm
like all right Charlotte living room
William kitchen sephar
yeah I went to Charlotte first I said
Charlotte what should the person that
spilled this milk on the floor She said
uh spank can mm more Xbox no electronics
can't go outside can't play with friends
grounded I'm like okay all right and I
go over to William I say William what
should Happ the person that spilled that
chocolate milk on the floor and he goes
um no more chocolate milk in the living
room
so and what's funny is like it's funny
that kids do this but adults react to
the same way to that question cuz it's
emotional right they' be imagine I'm
trying to play in my head I'm like what
would be happening cuz if I did it I
have images of it happening like as so
I'm visually I'm I'm playing it out of
my head and if I'm focusing on I'm going
to feel it yeah and now if you're
raising the stakes being like what
should happen now I'm visualizing if I
get caught It's My Punishment it's gonna
make me right I'm freaking out yeah I'm
like oh well what if they do what they
say that they're going to do what if I
do what if they do what I say and so
that's the the the bait question and the
punishment question those are really
good that's killer and really getting to
the truth is when we get down into like
the the ways to get a confession not
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