Ptolemy's Geocentric Model

Science360 - Beyond the Sky
3 Jul 202205:20

Summary

TLDRThe script discusses the Ptolemaic model, which posited a stationary Earth at the center of the universe, with celestial bodies moving around it on crystal spheres. It highlights Ptolemy's compilation of previous astronomical research into a comprehensive model that explained the wandering paths of planets. Despite its complexities and the need for constant adjustments, the geocentric model prevailed for 1500 years due to its simplicity, as favored by Occam's Razor, until more accurate heliocentric theories emerged.

Takeaways

  • 🌐 The concept of a flat, stationary Earth was prevalent until around the time of Christ.
  • 📚 Ptolemy was an astronomer who compiled and summarized the work of his predecessors into a book, creating the Ptolemaic model.
  • 📖 Ptolemy's main contribution was as a writer and compiler rather than an original researcher.
  • 🌌 The Ptolemaic model placed Earth at the center of the universe, with celestial bodies like the sun, moon, and stars revolving around it on a crystal sphere.
  • 🌙 The model attempted to explain the retrograde motion of planets by using smaller 'epicycles' within the larger crystal sphere.
  • 🔄 The varying sizes of these epicycles were meant to account for the differing speeds of celestial bodies across the sky.
  • 🤔 Critics questioned the practicality of the model, pointing out the lack of physical evidence such as shards of glass from celestial bodies breaking through crystal spheres.
  • 💬 Alternative theories, such as the Earth revolving around the sun, were debated but faced challenges in explaining phenomena like the absence of strong winds or the consistent behavior of falling objects.
  • 🔍 Occam's Razor was applied, favoring the simpler explanation of a geocentric model over a heliocentric one, despite its inaccuracies.
  • ⏳ The Ptolemaic model persisted for approximately 1500 years, with continuous revisions to align with astronomical observations.

Q & A

  • What was the prevailing belief about the Earth's position in the universe up until the time of Christ?

    -The belief was that the Earth was flat and stationary, with the heavens moving around it.

  • Who was Ptolemy and what was his contribution to astronomy?

    -Ptolemy was an astronomer known for summarizing the research of previous astronomers into a book, which became known as the Ptolemaic model.

  • What was the Ptolemaic model and how did it explain the movement of celestial bodies?

    -The Ptolemaic model was a geocentric model where the Earth was at the center, and celestial bodies like the sun, moon, and planets were fixed on rotating crystal spheres around the Earth.

  • How did the Ptolemaic model account for the retrograde motion of the planets?

    -The model used the concept of epicycles, where planets were on smaller crystal balls (epicycles) that rotated on larger crystal balls, allowing them to move forward and backward in the sky.

  • What were the criticisms of the Ptolemaic model?

    -Critics questioned the physical plausibility of celestial bodies moving through crystal spheres without breaking them, and why there were no shards of glass falling from the sky.

  • What alternative explanation was proposed to the Ptolemaic model?

    -An alternative was that the Earth might be moving around the Sun, but this was challenged by arguments about the lack of constant gale-force winds and the expected behavior of falling objects.

  • How did the concept of Occam's Razor influence the acceptance of the Ptolemaic model?

    -Occam's Razor, which states that the simplest explanation is probably correct, led to the continued acceptance of the Ptolemaic model despite its complexities, as no better model was available.

  • How long did the Ptolemaic model persist and what were the challenges in maintaining it?

    -The Ptolemaic model persisted for about 1500 years, with constant revisions and adjustments to account for the changing positions of the planets.

  • What was the main confounding issue for ancient astronomers regarding the Ptolemaic model?

    -The main issue was the difficulty in accurately predicting the positions of the planets, which required frequent adjustments to the model.

  • What were the practical implications of the Ptolemaic model's inaccuracies?

    -The inaccuracies meant that predictions about celestial events were unreliable, which could affect navigation, timekeeping, and astronomical observations.

Outlines

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🌐 Geocentrism and the Ptolemaic Model

The paragraph discusses the historical belief in a geocentric universe, where Earth was thought to be stationary and at the center of the cosmos. It introduces Ptolemy, an astronomer who synthesized previous astronomical research into a book that became the Ptolemaic model. This model proposed a complex system of celestial spheres, or 'crystal balls,' upon which the sun, moon, stars, and planets were fixed. It attempted to explain the apparent retrograde motion of the planets by introducing epicycles—smaller spheres rotating on larger ones. The paragraph also touches on the skepticism of this model due to its complexity and the lack of observable evidence such as glass shards from the celestial spheres.

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🔍 The Challenges of Planetary Positions in Ancient Astronomy

This paragraph highlights the persistent difficulty ancient astronomers faced in accurately predicting the positions of the planets. Despite the Ptolemaic model's dominance for over 1500 years, it required constant revisions and adjustments to align with observations. The paragraph emphasizes the struggle to reconcile the model's predictions with empirical evidence, suggesting that the complexity of the model was a significant source of confusion and debate among scholars of the time.

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Keywords

💡Flat Earth

The concept of a flat Earth refers to the ancient belief that the Earth is flat rather than spherical. In the video, this idea is mentioned as a prevailing belief up until the time of Christ. It sets the stage for discussing the evolution of astronomical models and how they changed over time. The script contrasts this with the geocentric model, which is a significant part of the narrative.

💡Ptolemy

Ptolemy was a Greek astronomer whose work, the Almagest, summarized the astronomical knowledge of his time and laid the foundation for the Ptolemaic model. The video highlights him as a compiler of previous research rather than an original discoverer. His model, which placed the Earth at the center of the universe, was widely accepted for centuries and is a central theme of the video.

💡Ptolemaic Model

The Ptolemaic model, also known as the geocentric model, is a geocentric system that was developed by Ptolemy. It posits that the Earth is stationary at the center of the universe, with all celestial bodies, including the sun, moon, and planets, orbiting around it. The video explains how this model attempted to explain the complex movements of the planets, particularly their retrograde motion.

💡Crystal Spheres

In the Ptolemaic model, crystal spheres were imagined as transparent, concentric, and rotating spheres that carried the celestial bodies around the Earth. The video uses the crystal sphere concept to illustrate how the model accounted for the motion of the moon, sun, and planets, including their varying speeds and retrograde motion.

💡Epicycles

Epicycles are small circular orbits that the planets were thought to move along while also moving along the larger orbit of their respective crystal sphere. The video explains that epicycles were used in the Ptolemaic model to explain the retrograde motion of planets, which appeared to move westward for a time and then return to eastward motion.

💡Retrograde Motion

Retrograde motion is the apparent westward motion of a planet when viewed from Earth against the background of stars. This phenomenon was a significant challenge for ancient astronomers and is explained in the video as one of the reasons for the development of the Ptolemaic model's epicycles. The model attempted to account for this complex motion through the use of multiple crystal spheres and epicycles.

💡Occam's Razor

Occam's Razor is a problem-solving principle that suggests the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. The video discusses how, despite some logical inconsistencies and the need for constant adjustments, the Ptolemaic model persisted for over a millennium because it was simpler than the alternative of a moving Earth. It was the prevailing approach to explaining the cosmos until the Copernican model was proposed.

💡Geocentric

Geocentric refers to the belief that the Earth is at the center of the universe and all celestial bodies revolve around it. The video uses the term to describe the Ptolemaic model and contrasts it with the later heliocentric model, which places the sun at the center. The geocentric view was widely accepted until the scientific revolution challenged it.

💡Heliocentric Model

The heliocentric model is a model of the solar system where the sun, not the Earth, is at the center, and the planets, including Earth, revolve around it. While not detailed in the script, the video alludes to this model as an alternative to the Ptolemaic model, which was eventually replaced by the heliocentric view as a more accurate description of the solar system.

💡Astronomer

An astronomer is a scientist who studies celestial objects, space, and the physical universe as a whole. In the context of the video, astronomers like Ptolemy played a crucial role in shaping the understanding of the universe. Their observations and theories, such as the Ptolemaic model, formed the basis of ancient astronomical knowledge.

💡Celestial Spheres

Celestial spheres, similar to crystal spheres mentioned in the video, were thought to be the large, concentric spheres that carried the stars and planets in their orbits around the Earth. The concept is integral to the Ptolemaic model and is used in the video to describe the ancient understanding of the cosmos and how it was believed to function.

Highlights

The concept of a flat, stationary Earth was prevalent until around the time of Christ.

Ptolemy was an astronomer known for summarizing previous research into a book, leading to the Ptolemaic model.

The Ptolemaic model placed Earth at the center with celestial bodies fixed on rotating crystal spheres.

The model explained the wandering stars, planets, and their movements by the rotation of crystal spheres.

The varying sizes of crystal spheres determined the speed of celestial bodies' movement across the sky.

Planets exhibited retrograde motion, which was explained by placing them on smaller 'epicycle' spheres within the larger crystal spheres.

Adjustments to the sizes of epicycles were necessary as the model's predictions did not always align with observations.

Critics questioned the physical plausibility of celestial bodies moving through crystal spheres without causing damage.

Skeptics of the geocentric model proposed that perhaps the Earth revolves around the Sun.

Arguments against a moving Earth included the lack of constant gale-force winds and the consistent behavior of falling objects.

The absence of shards of glass from celestial bodies breaking through crystal spheres was cited as evidence against the model.

Occam's Razor was applied, favoring the simplest explanation, which at the time was the geocentric model.

The Ptolemaic model persisted for 1500 years, with constant revisions to account for the positions of the planets.

Ancient astronomers struggled with accurately predicting the positions of the planets, which was a major confounding issue.

Transcripts

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so the idea of

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a flat earth a stationary earth

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around which the heavens moved

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persisted

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right up till

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about the time of christ

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in those days there was an astronomer

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named ptolemy

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now ptolemy was not necessarily the

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discoverer of all the information that

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he eventually became famous for

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but he was known as being a very good

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writer and what he did was he took all

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of the research of previous astronomers

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and he summarized it all into a book

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and as such it became known as the

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ptolemaic model

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he really just was a good writer

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okay nothing against being a good writer

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what he

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formulated through this book was an

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explanation for the wandering stars the

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planets and here's how we did it here's

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here's earth in the middle of it all

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okay now the planets the sun the moon

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the stars are all

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fixed upon a crystal ball

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so picture a crystal ball around the

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earth okay and on that crystal ball is

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say the moon that crystal ball rotates

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and as it goes around the earth the the

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moon on that crystal ball also goes

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around the earth the sun would do the

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same thing

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and the planets also would do the same

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thing now the varying size of the

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crystal ball would determine how quickly

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the planet moves across the sky or the

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moon moves or the sun

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but the five planets these wandering

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stars planetos

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they had this unusual habit of moving

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west towards the east for a period of

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time and then east towards the west for

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a period of time and then returning to

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the west to the east

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now how would they explain that with

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this new ptolemaic model

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well that was easy

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okay

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we put a crystal ball

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on the crystal ball

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you see the planet is on the small

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crystal ball that they referred to as an

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epicycle

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and that crystal ball would rotate

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around

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while the larger crystal ball went

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around the earth so the little ball

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would go forward for time backwards for

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time forward for a time backwards for a

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time forwards for a time backwards for a

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time and and

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in doing so and and sort of in

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formulating different sizes of these

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crystal balls would account for the

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motion of the planets

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but it was very hard to exactly

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determine the size of these crystal

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balls that would account for the exact

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positioning of the planets and so over

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time that the size of these crystal

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balls had to be adjusted because they'd

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get them wrong and uh you know jupiter

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should have been there and it actually

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was there and they had to say oh well

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back to the drawing board we have to

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readjust our epicycles because it's not

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quite working now there were some people

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at a time who thought this idea was a

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little far-fetched some said that well

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if the planet

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is on a crystal ball which is rotating

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around some axis through another crystal

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ball then each time the planet goes

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through

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shouldn't it break the crystal ball

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shouldn't there therefore be shards of

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glass raining down onto the earth as the

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planet busts through the larger crystal

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ball and we never see shards of glass

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falling from the sky so perhaps this

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isn't true

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maybe in fact there's something

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different going on perhaps the earth is

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going around the sun have we thought

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about that and people who said that were

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confronted with

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arguments such as if the earth is moving

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around the sun

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then

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it would have to do so to great speed

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and so wouldn't there be a constant gale

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force wind how then can the birds fly if

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there's a constant gale force wind or if

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i drop a rock from the top of a large

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hill

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wouldn't the earth fall or move out from

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underneath it so as it fell the rock

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wouldn't fall below the spot from which

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i dropped it it would land somewhere

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else because the earth is moving away

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from it

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but that doesn't happen in fact when i

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drop a rock from a very high place it

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lands directly below

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so therefore the earth can't be moving

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there's no wind

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the rocks behave as predicted

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the earth must be stationary

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but there's no shards of glass falling

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from the sky so you can see there's a

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lot of confusion but you know what they

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did they applied what's called ocom's

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razor

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occam

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r-a-z-o-r o-com's razor which is this

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the simplest explanation is probably

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right

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so until you come up with a better idea

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we're going with

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the the crystal balls okay the ptolemaic

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model earth-centered geocentric is what

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they called it

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this was the model of the universe and

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it persisted for 1500 years with

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constant revisions and adjustments to

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account for the positions of the planets

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i'm telling you the number one

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confounding issue among the ancient

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astronomers was the positions of the

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planets they just couldn't get it right

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