The Ethics of Animal use in Research | Courtney Bannerman | TEDxQueensU

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15 Dec 202013:49

Summary

TLDRThis PhD researcher at Queen's University discusses the critical role of animal models in understanding the nervous and immune system interactions following spinal cord injuries. They address the ethical concerns and public misconceptions about animal testing, emphasizing the importance of the Three Rs (reduction, replacement, refinement) in research. The speaker advocates for a balanced view, acknowledging the indispensable contributions of animals to medical advancements while recognizing the need for humane and scientifically rigorous practices.

Takeaways

  • 🧠 The speaker is pursuing a PhD at Queen's, focusing on interactions between the nervous and immune systems after spinal cord injuries to understand chronic pain and potential treatments.
  • 🐭 The research uses a mouse model of spinal cord injury that closely mimics human spinal cord injury, though the use of animals in research is a sensitive topic.
  • 📜 In 2019, the speaker responded to a negative article about animal research, arguing that while technology has advanced, animal research remains crucial for medical progress.
  • 🏛️ Animal research in Canada is strictly regulated, requiring certification from the Canadian Animal Care Committee, which conducts surprise inspections to ensure compliance.
  • 🔍 The three R's of animal research—Reduction, Replacement, and Refinement—guide the ethical use of animals, focusing on minimizing the number and suffering of animals used.
  • ⚖️ Although alternative methods like computational modeling and 3D-printed organs are advancing, they cannot yet fully replace animal models for developing human therapeutics.
  • 🧬 Shared large datasets and public databases are enhancing research, but cells in a dish or 3D-printed organs lack the complex interactions found in living organisms.
  • 🤔 The speaker acknowledges the ethical debate around valuing human life over animal life but emphasizes the significant contributions animals make to biomedical research.
  • 💊 Many medical advancements, such as treatments for multiple sclerosis, diabetes, and routine surgeries, were made possible through animal research.
  • 🩺 The speaker's research aims to develop better treatments for chronic pain in spinal cord injury patients, contributing to improving their quality of life.

Q & A

  • What is the main focus of the researcher's PhD at Queen's?

    -The researcher's PhD focuses on the interactions between the nervous system and the immune system after spinal cord injury, specifically looking at how these interactions lead to chronic pain and potential ways to alter them for pain relief.

  • Why does the researcher use a mouse model for spinal cord injury?

    -The mouse model is used because it effectively mimics the human model of spinal cord injury, providing a valuable tool for studying the complex interactions and effects that lead to chronic pain.

  • What was the researcher's reaction to the article published in the Queen's Journal in February 2019?

    -The researcher felt that the article negatively depicted animal use in research, suggesting scientists were resistant to change and technological advancement, prompting the researcher to write a response piece.

  • What is the title of the researcher's response piece to the Queen's Journal article?

    -The title of the response piece is 'A Letter from a Queen's Researcher: Animal Testing is Unfairly Judged'.

  • Why did the researcher choose to publish the response piece anonymously?

    -The researcher chose to publish anonymously due to concerns about how people would receive the piece, as the topic of animal research can be controversial and uncomfortable.

  • What are the three R's of animal research mentioned in the script?

    -The three R's are Reduction, Replacement, and Refinement, which guide the ethical use of animals in research by minimizing the number of animals used, finding alternatives to animal use, and improving the welfare of animals involved in research.

  • What is the role of the Canadian Animal Care Committee in animal research?

    -The Canadian Animal Care Committee is responsible for granting and renewing certifications of good animal practice every three years, ensuring that institutions adhere to strict ethical and welfare standards in their use of animals for research.

  • How does the researcher address the criticism that technology has advanced past the need for animal research?

    -The researcher acknowledges technological advancements but points out that for creating therapeutics for human use, animals and their products cannot yet be completely replaced without hindering the research process.

  • What is the significance of the researcher's work in developing better therapeutics for spinal cord injury patients?

    -The researcher's work aims to provide better pain relief for spinal cord injury patients, who often suffer from chronic pain and have limited effective treatment options, by using a combination of computational modeling, cell and tissue culturing techniques, and a new mouse model of spinal cord injury.

  • How does the researcher balance the ethical considerations of using animals in research with the potential benefits to human health?

    -The researcher adheres to the three R's of animal research, uses the least sentient organisms possible for clinically relevant data, and supports the idea that supporting animal research doesn't have to be an all-or-nothing approach, allowing for selective support based on the type of research or critical evaluation of methods and conclusions.

  • What is the researcher's view on the importance of public and patient engagement in research?

    -The researcher believes that public and patient engagement is increasingly important, especially in uncomfortable topics like animal research, as it allows for a more informed stance and better understanding of the complexities involved.

Outlines

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🧬 Ethical Debates on Animal Research in Medical Advancements

This paragraph delves into the ethical complexities surrounding animal research, particularly the speaker's use of mice models to study chronic pain post-spinal cord injury. It addresses public discomfort and opposition to animal testing, referencing a controversial article from the Queen's Journal and the author's anonymous response advocating for fair judgment of animal testing. The summary also touches on the importance of balanced discourse, the legislative framework governing animal research in Canada, and the principles of the 'Three Rs' (reduction, replacement, refinement) that guide ethical animal research practices.

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💡 Advancements in Science and the Role of Animal Research

The second paragraph discusses the advancements in computational modeling, cell and tissue culturing, and data sharing within the scientific community. It emphasizes the limitations of these technologies in fully replacing animal models for human therapeutics research. The speaker argues that despite technological progress, animals remain integral to understanding complex biological systems and disease mechanisms. The paragraph also explores the challenges of organ interaction and systemic biology that current alternatives cannot replicate, and the importance of considering causation versus correlation in scientific findings.

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🛑 The Impact and Necessity of Animal Research in Medical Breakthroughs

In this paragraph, the speaker highlights the significance of animal research in medical breakthroughs, citing the discovery of minocycline's effect on multiple sclerosis as a case study. They underscore the historical contributions of animal research to common treatments like insulin, painkillers, and antibiotics. The speaker advocates for a nuanced approach to supporting animal research, recognizing its necessity in certain areas while allowing for criticism and selective support based on the context of use. The paragraph concludes with a personal note on the speaker's motivation for using animal models in their research on spinal cord injury and chronic pain, aiming to improve patient outcomes and quality of life.

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Keywords

💡PhD

PhD stands for Doctor of Philosophy and represents the highest academic degree awarded by universities in most fields of study. In the context of the video, the speaker is pursuing a PhD at Queen's, focusing on the interactions between the nervous and immune systems after spinal cord injury. The speaker's research aims to understand and potentially alleviate chronic pain, demonstrating the application of PhD research in advancing medical knowledge.

💡Nervous System

The nervous system is a complex network of nerves and cells responsible for transmitting signals between different parts of the body. It plays a crucial role in the video's theme as the speaker investigates how the nervous system interacts with the immune system post-spinal cord injury, highlighting the nervous system's involvement in chronic pain development.

💡Immune System

The immune system is a biological system that defends the body against disease and infections. In the video, the speaker's research explores the relationship between the immune system and the development of chronic pain following spinal cord injuries, emphasizing the immune system's role in pain management and recovery.

💡Spinal Cord Injury

Spinal cord injury refers to any damage to the spinal cord that results in a loss of function, such as mobility or sensation. The video discusses the speaker's use of a mouse model to mimic human spinal cord injuries, which is central to understanding the complex interactions leading to chronic pain and the potential for therapeutic interventions.

💡Chronic Pain

Chronic pain is pain that lasts longer than the expected time for healing and often persists beyond the resolution of an injury or illness. The video's main theme revolves around understanding and addressing chronic pain that arises from spinal cord injuries, showcasing the significance of this condition in the speaker's research.

💡Mouse Model

A mouse model refers to the use of mice in scientific research to study biological processes or diseases, often as a proxy for human conditions. The speaker mentions a mouse model of spinal cord injury that effectively mimics the human condition, illustrating the importance of animal models in medical research.

💡Animal Research

Animal research involves the use of animals in scientific experiments to gain knowledge that can be applied to human health and disease. The video discusses the controversy and ethical considerations of animal research, as well as the speaker's personal involvement in using animal models for spinal cord injury studies.

💡Three Rs of Animal Research

The Three Rs of animal research are reduction, replacement, and refinement, which are ethical principles aimed at minimizing the use of animals in research. The video explains these principles as part of the regulatory framework governing animal research in Canada, showing the speaker's commitment to ethical research practices.

💡Sentience

Sentience refers to the capacity of an organism to have subjective experiences and feelings, particularly the ability to perceive and process the environment. The video uses the concept of sentience in the context of the Three Rs, emphasizing the importance of using the least sentient organisms in research to minimize ethical concerns.

💡Computational Modeling

Computational modeling is the use of computer simulations to study complex systems or problems that cannot be easily solved analytically. In the video, the speaker mentions computational modeling as one of the advanced techniques that, while helpful in reducing the number of animals used in research, cannot fully replace them due to their inability to replicate the complexity of biological systems.

💡Public Databases

Public databases are repositories of information accessible to the public, often used in scientific research to share and analyze large datasets. The video highlights the importance of public databases in scientific communities, where data from studies can be shared freely, allowing for further analysis and insights, such as gene expression levels in immune cells.

💡Causation vs. Correlation

Causation refers to a relationship where one event causes another, while correlation is a statistical association between two variables. The video discusses the importance of distinguishing between causation and correlation in research, as incorrect assumptions can lead to misguided treatments, emphasizing the need for rigorous scientific methodology.

Highlights

PhD research at Queen's University focuses on the interaction between the nervous and immune systems after spinal cord injury and its relation to chronic pain.

Investigating potential alterations to these interactions to provide pain relief for patients.

Utilization of a mouse model to mimic human spinal cord injury for research purposes.

The ethical debate surrounding the use of animals in medical research and its controversial nature.

Publication of an article in the Queen's Journal questioning the necessity of animal research and its reception.

Author's anonymous response piece arguing that animal testing is unfairly judged.

The importance of public and patient engagement in research and the need for balanced information.

Legislation behind animal research in Canada, including the requirement for a certification of good animal practice.

The role of the Canadian Animal Care Committee and its surprise inspections to ensure ethical treatment.

The three Rs of animal research: reduction, replacement, and refinement.

Technological advancements like computational modeling and cell culturing, and their limitations in replacing animal models.

The significance of sharing large datasets and public databases in scientific research.

The importance of considering causation versus correlation in scientific findings.

Ethical considerations of using animals in research and the concept of sentience in the replacement principle.

Examples of medical advancements made possible through animal research, such as treatments for multiple sclerosis and diabetes.

The author's personal motivation for using animals in their research on chronic pain post-spinal cord injury.

The impact of spinal cord injuries on various body systems and the prevalence of chronic pain among patients.

The development of a new mouse model by the author that more accurately represents human spinal cord injuries.

The acknowledgment of the limitations and difficulties of research, but the indispensable role of animal contributions.

Transcripts

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so i'm doing my phd

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here at queen's and i look at the

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interactions in between the nervous

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system

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and the immune system after spinal cord

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injury

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how those interactions result in the

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development of chronic pain

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and how we can potentially alter those

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interactions

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to provide patients with pain relief in

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my work

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i use a mouse model of spinal cord

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injury that does a really good job at

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mimicking the human model of spinal cord

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injury

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although i usually don't tell people i

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just met that last part

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because although we owe almost all of

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our medical

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modern advancements to the use of

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laboratory animals

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their topic in research can be an

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uncomfortable one for many people

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and some are completely against their

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use altogether

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so in february of 2019 an article was

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published in the queen's journal

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titled the curtain on animal research at

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queen's lifts and inch

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i felt like it was a really negative

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depiction

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of animal use and research and it

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suggested in a lot of ways that

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scientists were

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stuck in a rut and refused to adapt as

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technology moved

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forward and indeed if you look online

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a lot of the journalism out there is

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about how

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we have advanced past the use of needing

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animals

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and a lot of people who do support

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animal research don't like to be too

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vocal and talk about it

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because in the past themselves or their

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families have been harmed or threatened

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so i decided in march of 2019 to write

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kind of a

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response piece to this and i titled it

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a letter from a queen's researcher

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animal testing is unfairly judged

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at the time i published the article

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anonymously

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and although i got a bunch of different

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friends from a variety of different

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backgrounds to read it over

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and we had some really insightful

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discussions about it i was a little bit

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nervous about how people would receive

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it

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some liked it and others weren't such of

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a

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big fan a lot of people thought again

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technology has advanced we don't need

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animals in research anymore

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some thought that animal research was

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cruel and pointless and others thought

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that

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it just wasn't right for us to subject

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animals to this use

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when there's alternatives

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so i think that even though animal

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research is one of those uncomfortable

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topics it's a little bit

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one of those ethically gray areas it's

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important for us to talk about it

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because how can all of you make an

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informed stance

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on it if you are only given one side of

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the story

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and i think in a time where there's

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increased public and patient engagement

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in research

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this is becoming ever more important

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so let's begin by talking about the

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legislation behind annual research

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so if you are a researcher or a

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university

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in canada and you would like to use

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animals in any capacity

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this does include animal testing but it

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also includes

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animal observation or if you're using

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them to train professionals like

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training veterinarians or veterinary

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technicians you must obtain

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a certification of good animal practice

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from the canadian animal care committee

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and

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this committee gives its certification

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out and every three years it must be

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renewed

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and how it gets renewed is that the

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canadian animal care committee will come

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to the

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institution on a surprise visit so

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there's no tweaking things beforehand

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and they will inspect every room and

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they'll look at all the products being

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used

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and potentially any animals on study

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and each university also has their own

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animal care committee

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but this committee is primarily

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concerned with

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the protocols and procedures that will

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be happening on site or in direct

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affiliation with the university

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and animal care committees are composed

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of a variety of different peoples from

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different

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backgrounds there are researchers who do

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use animals in their work

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as well as laboratory technicians who

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deal with the day-to-day care of animals

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and the university's head veterinarian

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but there's also researchers

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who don't use animals in their work at

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all or commit

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community members who have no

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affiliation

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to the university these protocols are

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approved based on the three r's of

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animal research

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which are reduction replacement and

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refinement

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reduction is reducing the number of

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animals you would need in your study

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and also being able to justify why you

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need the animal numbers that you do

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replacement can be either replacing your

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laboratory animal with an inanimate

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system like a computational modeling

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system

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or it could be replacing your animal

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with a less sentient version

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and sentience has to do with how

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organisms can perceive and process the

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environment around them

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so an example of this is replacing maybe

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a laboratory rat

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with a snail or a fish or an insect

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and refinement has to do with altering

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the process itself

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to ensure the model organism is

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minimized in the amount of discomfort

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and pain it experiences

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and the animal care committee each

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person must be

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okay with the protocol that gets

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approved so it's not a situation where

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one person can just be overpowered by

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everyone else on the committee

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so another common comment i commonly get

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is that technology has advanced to a

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point where we just don't need animals

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anymore

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and don't get me wrong there's been some

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phenomenal advancements with

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computational modeling

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and cell and tissue culturing techniques

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and but the issue is if we want to

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create therapeutics for human use

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we are not yet at a point where animals

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and their products can be completely cut

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out of the research process

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without it greatly hindering things

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another amazing advancement that's been

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happening

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is that scientific groups and

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communities have moved towards sharing

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their large data sets

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as well as creating public databases for

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people to use free of cost

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so let's say for example there's a group

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out there

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who's particularly interested in gene

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changes that happen

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in immune cells after spinal cord injury

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perhaps they obtain some blood samples

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from spinal cord injury patients

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and they run an analysis on it and they

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get a huge amount of data

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when they're ready to publish their

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findings in a scientific journal

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they have to release the entirety of the

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data set

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to the public for anyone to use i could

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for then i could download this data set

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maybe i run a different analysis

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and pick out a couple different gene

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targets

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i could then move to a different public

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database

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one of which is called imgen and see

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what the gene expression levels

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are in up to 85 different immune cells

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could then head back to my lab and use

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cultured cell lines to see

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if i alter the gene expression of this

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immune cell how does that activity of

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the cell change

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some labs even have the equipment to 3d

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print

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small organs so we can see how the organ

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as a total will change

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but of course all of these techniques do

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a great job at reducing the number of

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organisms we need because before we even

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move into a disease model

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we might have already eliminated a

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couple targets of interest

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or maybe we have a better idea of the

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disease mechanism itself

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but the issue is cells in a petri dish

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lack the overall organ architecture

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which in some diseases can be super

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important

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and a 3d printed organ lacks the

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interactions that happen

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with other organs we are not just a

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collection

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of a bunch of organisms or a bunch of

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organs really close together

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all our organs communicate with one

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another and the circulatory and immune

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system play a huge role

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another issue is that each one of our

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cells

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contains the exact same copy of dna

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and this means that different cell types

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could express the same genes or produce

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the same proteins

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so that's sometimes why when there are

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new drugs or new therapeutics you see

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off-targeted effects that you didn't

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originally think would happen

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another important thing to consider is

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causation force versus correlation

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so what do i mean by this maybe you took

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some blood samples

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from patients with and without chronic

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low back pain

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and maybe in your chronic low back pain

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population you saw an increased level of

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a certain protein

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you cannot assume that that increase of

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protein

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is what's causing people's pain and it's

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not ethical to then medicate your

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patients to lower that protein level

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which then kind of brings us to a

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trickier criticism of animal research

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which is how can you say that the life

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of a human

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is more important than the life of an

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animal

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so going back to the three r's of animal

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research

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sentience which is in the replacement

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are

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can refer to the ability of an organism

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to sense the environment around it and

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process it

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and it's a very delicate balance of

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using the least sentient organism

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possible

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but still being able to get clinically

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relevant data

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so science has to a certain extent

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created a hierarchy

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of organism life

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and even though there are differences

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between humans and animals

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animals are still contributing massively

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to the biomedical science process

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for example a recent development out of

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the university of calgary

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it has been that they found that if you

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give ms patients or multiple sclerosis

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patients

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minocycline which is a common acne

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medication

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after their first ms event they will

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reduce by half

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the rate that they could go on to

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develop chronic ms

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and this is a huge finding for canada

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because in canada we have one of the

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highest rates of ms in the world

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so this finding has done a great job of

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improving the quality of life of

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thousands of people

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and would not have been possible without

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the mouse model of multiple sclerosis

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and also if you're a diabetic who's ever

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taken insulin

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or maybe an advil or an aspirin or you

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went in for a routine surgery

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and had to was prescribed antibiotics or

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painkillers

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you have animal research to thank

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because of that

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and the reality is scientists at this

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time are just using the best models that

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they have available

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if a non-animal model was to come along

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that was as good as or better than the

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animal models that we currently use

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science would move to adapt to use that

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one

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but at this point we don't have those

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models available for a lot of diseases

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and at the end of the day it's okay if

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you're uncomfortable with animal

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research

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it's a very uncomfortable topic but

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supporting animal research doesn't need

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to be an all or nothing approach

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you can support the use of animals in

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biomedical research

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but maybe you don't support their use in

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cosmetic research

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or you can read a scientific journal

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article and be really critical

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about the methods that they used or the

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conclusions that they drew from their

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study

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but making generalized blanket

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statements like

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all animal research is barbaric and

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unnecessary

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is simply untrue so why do i

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use animals in my work so like i

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mentioned i study chronic pain that

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develops after a spinal cord injury

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and in the province of ontario 11 people

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each week

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will suffer from a spinal cord injury

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and for each one of these patients it

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will take them approximately two to

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three years

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to stabilize and when they do finally

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stabilize

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they are often faced with a whole host

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of medical complications

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even though the trauma itself is to the

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central nervous system

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many different body systems can be

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affected

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for example heart rate breathing blood

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pressure the digestive system the

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urinary tract system

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movement the musculoskeletal system and

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mental health can all be affected

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and for sixty to eighty percent of these

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patients they will go on to develop

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chronic pain

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and at this point doctors don't really

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have a lot of effective treatments to

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offer this population

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and of the treatments that they do have

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available many of them

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do not lower the patient's pain to a

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rate where they can

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live a healthy productive life that they

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would like to live

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so through the use of computational

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modeling

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cell and tissue culturing techniques

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microbiome analysis

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and a new mouse model of spinal cord

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injury that i developed

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that more accurately mimics a human

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spinal cord injury

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i hope to go on to help develop better

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therapeutics to offer these patients

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some pain relief

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and at the end of the day i know my

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research will be difficult

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and it will of course have limitations

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to it but i know that people would not

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be able to live the quality of life that

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they currently do

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without the irreplaceable contribution

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of many laboratory animals over the

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years

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thank you

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you

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