AMD Ryzen 7950X3D Review - Leo can't believe it!
Summary
TLDRIn this tech review, the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 3D processor is put through its paces, showcasing its impressive performance with 3D V-Cache technology. Despite its high cost and complex software requirements for optimal performance, the processor delivers significant gains in gaming and productivity tasks, outperforming its non-3D counterpart and setting a new standard for efficiency with low power draw under load. However, the high idle power consumption and the necessity for a specific BIOS and drivers installation for the 3D cache to function correctly are noted concerns.
Takeaways
- 🚀 AMD has announced the Ryzen 9, 7950X 3D processor with 3D V-Cache technology, promising significant performance improvements in certain applications and games.
- 📅 The Ryzen 9, 7950X 3D is set to launch in February, but the 8-core Ryzen 7 will be available later in April.
- 💡 The 3D V-Cache technology in the Ryzen 9, 7950X 3D allows for asymmetric cache configurations, which AMD will manage through software with the AMD 3D V-Cache Performance Optimizer driver.
- 🔍 AMD presented charts showing the 7950X 3D outperforming the Intel Core i9 3900K and the regular Ryzen 9 7950X in various gaming benchmarks, though the choice of games was controlled by AMD.
- 💰 The 7950X 3D is priced similarly to the non-3D 7950X, which had a price reduction since its launch, making it a competitive option for high-performance processors.
- 🛠️ The Ryzen 7000 series and AM5 motherboards require a specific BIOS and chipset driver to support the 3D V-Cache technology, indicating a complex setup process.
- 🔥 The Ryzen 9, 7950X 3D showed lower power consumption and cooler temperatures under load compared to the non-3D version, which is impressive for performance-oriented processors.
- 🎮 In gaming tests, the 3D cache provided a noticeable boost in frame rates, with some games showing as much as a 30-40% improvement.
- 🤔 The reviewer expressed skepticism about the consistency of the performance gains across different games and the complexity of the required software stack for the 3D cache to function correctly.
- ⏰ The Ryzen 7 7800X 3D, which is expected to be a strong contender for gaming performance, has not been reviewed yet, suggesting potential future competition for the 7950X 3D.
- 🏆 Despite some concerns, the Ryzen 9, 7950X 3D received a high rating of 9 out of 10, being deemed a 'must-have' for those seeking top-tier performance.
Q & A
What new product was announced by AMD during the keynote?
-AMD announced the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D, which is a processor with 3D V-Cache technology, along with other Zen 4 models featuring 3D cache, including the Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 series.
When are the new Ryzen 7000 processors expected to launch?
-The new Ryzen 7000 processors, specifically the 7800, 7900, and 7950X 3D parts, were announced to launch in February, with the 8-core Ryzen 7 going on sale in April.
What is the AMD 3D V-Cache Performance Optimizer and how does it work?
-The AMD 3D V-Cache Performance Optimizer is a driver that, along with the AMD PPM Provisioning File driver, detects when a game is being played and ideally directs it to run on the core complex with the extra 3D cache for performance benefits.
How does AMD's 3D V-Cache differ from Intel's Alder Lake and Raptor Lake hybrid core technology?
-While Intel's Alder Lake and Raptor Lake designs include a mix of performance and efficient cores with extra hardware support from the start, AMD is adding 3D V-Cache to an existing processor design, managing the asymmetric cache configuration through software.
What potential performance benefits were shown by AMD for the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D?
-AMD presented charts indicating that the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D could show significant performance gains over the Intel Core i9 3900K and the regular Ryzen 9 7950X in certain games, with only minor losses in others.
Why might AMD choose to stack cache or memory in their processor designs?
-Stacking cache or memory can shorten connection lengths, reduce costs associated with monolithic die size, and improve scalability on a given fabrication process. It also allows for more efficient thermal management and power delivery.
What is the significance of the 3D cache technology for AMD's future processor designs?
-The 3D cache technology is significant as it represents a step towards more advanced stacking techniques, which could include stacking regular DRAM, and even graphics, potentially leading to more powerful and efficient processors.
What steps are required to ensure the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D's 3D V-Cache is functioning correctly?
-Several steps are needed, including installing the correct BIOS version, ensuring the AMD 3D V-Cache Performance Optimizer driver and AMD PPM Provisioning File driver are installed, verifying the AMD 3D V-Cache device in Device Manager, and checking that the Xbox Game Bar and related services are up to date.
How did the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D perform in gaming benchmarks compared to the regular Ryzen 9 7950X and Intel Core i9 13900K?
-The Ryzen 9 7950X 3D showed significant performance improvements in gaming benchmarks, often outperforming both the regular Ryzen 9 7950X and the Intel Core i9 13900K, with higher frame rates in games like Far Cry 6 and Borderlands 3.
What are some of the potential downsides or concerns regarding the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D processor?
-Some concerns include the high cost of the CPU and motherboard, the complexity of the required software stack for the 3D V-Cache to function correctly, high idle power draw, and the lack of direct comparison to the yet-to-be-released Ryzen 7 7800X 3D.
Outlines
🚀 Launch of AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 3D and Zen 4 Models
The script introduces the new AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 3D processor with 3D V-Cache technology, highlighting its launch alongside other Zen 4 models in February. Dr. Lisa Su's keynote at the AMD event is mentioned, emphasizing the expansion of the Ryzen 7000 series and the introduction of new motherboards. The script also discusses the technical challenges of integrating 3D V-Cache into existing processors, as opposed to Intel's Alder Lake and Raptor Lake designs. AMD's solution involves software optimization with the AMD 3D V-Cache Performance Optimizer driver and the AMD PPM Provisioning File driver to manage the asymmetric cache configuration and improve gaming performance.
🔍 Investigating 3D Cache Performance and Setup
This paragraph delves into the performance implications of AMD's 3D cache technology, referencing the mixed results from the Ryzen 7 5800X 3D. The importance of software recognizing and utilizing the additional cache is underscored. The script outlines the extensive setup and verification process required for the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D, including BIOS updates, driver installations, and system configurations to ensure optimal performance. The narrator's experience with an unverified motherboard and the subsequent need for the correct BIOS is also shared, illustrating the complexity of the process.
🛠️ Benchmarking and Testing the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D
The script describes the narrator's test setup for benchmarking the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D, including the hardware used and the process of transferring components from an Intel system for comparative testing. It details the power consumption and thermal performance of the processor under various loads, such as Blender and gaming benchmarks. The results show improved performance and lower temperatures with the 3D cache enabled, demonstrating the effectiveness of the technology in gaming scenarios.
📊 Comparative Analysis of Ryzen 9 7950X 3D Performance
This section presents a detailed comparative analysis of the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D's performance across multiple benchmarks and gaming tests. The processor shows significant gains in certain games, such as Far Cry 6 and Borderlands 3, with the 3D cache providing a noticeable boost in frame rates. However, the narrator expresses skepticism about the selection of games used by AMD for their comparisons, suggesting a potential bias towards titles that favor the new processor.
💡 Pros and Cons of the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D Processor
The narrator discusses the pros and cons of the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D processor. On the positive side, the processor offers impressive all-around performance with notably low power draw under load. However, the high cost of the CPU and motherboard, the complexity of the required software stack, and the high idle power consumption are cited as drawbacks. The narrator also expresses concern about not being able to compare the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D with the yet-to-be-launched Ryzen 7 7800X 3D, which could potentially offer similar gaming performance at a lower cost.
🏁 Final Verdict on the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D Processor
In conclusion, the narrator gives the Ryzen 9 7950X 3D a high rating of 9 out of 10, deeming it a must-have processor despite its cons. The overall performance, especially in gaming, is praised, and the narrator suggests that the processor is an improvement over the previous model. However, the complexity of the setup process and the high idle power consumption are lingering concerns, and the potential of the upcoming Ryzen 7 7800X 3D is noted as a reason for consumers to wait for more options before making a purchase.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡AMD Ryzen 9, 7950x 3D
💡3D V-Cache
💡Zen 4 Architecture
💡Motherboard BIOS
💡Software Stack
💡Performance Optimizer
💡Power Consumption
💡Thermal Management
💡Gaming Performance
💡Benchmarking
💡Cost-effectiveness
Highlights
AMD Ryzen 9, 7950x 3D model with 3D cache was announced.
Zen 4 models with 3D cache, including Ryzen 7, 7800, 7900, and 7950x, are set to launch.
AMD's keynote revealed a new lineup of processors and expanded AM5 motherboards.
The 8-core Ryzen 7 will be available later in April.
Only one core complex in Ryzen 9 Zen4 has the extra cache, leading to questions about performance optimization.
AMD 3D V-cache Performance Optimizer driver will manage the asymmetric 3D V cache in software.
AMD presented charts showing significant performance gains with the 7950x 3D against Intel Core i9 3900k and regular Ryzen 9 7950x.
The benefits of 3D cache include more cache at a lower cost and better scalability.
AMD is using TSMC packaging technologies to address the challenges of 3D cache integration.
The 3D cache Ryzen 7 5800x has shown inconsistent performance in different applications.
The system setup for Ryzen 9 7950x 3D includes specific BIOS, drivers, and software configurations.
The Ryzen 9 7950x 3D showed lower power consumption and cooler operation compared to the non-3D model.
Gaming benchmarks demonstrated significant performance improvements with the 3D cache enabled.
The 3D cache technology shows promise but requires a complex software stack for optimal performance.
The high cost of the CPU and motherboard may be a consideration for potential buyers.
The Ryzen 9 7950x 3D outperforms its non-3D counterpart in various benchmarks and gaming tests.
The review concludes that the Ryzen 9 7950x 3D is an impressive all-around performer with a must-have rating.
Transcripts
my fresh shiny AMD ryzen 9
7950x 3D
magnetic flap open the box
just a block of foam it's all about Zen
4 with 3D cache
[Music]
kick Guru was present and correct when
Dr Lisa Seuss took to the stage to
deliver a Cas keynote announcing a great
many things including Zen 4 models with
3D cash not only ryzen 7 but also ryzen
9. the new 7800 7900 and 7950x3d parts
will launch in February and we are also
launching new low power 65 watt ryzen
7000 processors and an expanded
portfolio of entry-level am5
motherboards that will make ryzen the
best CPU at every price point in the
desktop Market that sounded like great
news however while the three models were
launching in February the 8 core ryzen 7
was going to go on sale in April as to
when we'll get a review sample of the
ryzen 7. don't know for now we've got
the 16 core ryzen 9 haven't yet seen a
12 core with 3D cache and the ryzen 7 is
at least some weeks away it also became
clear over the day or two after the
keynote and the keynote's not a
particularly technical announcement so
we weren't surprised to only get certain
details during the keynote but it took a
day or two for it to become apparent
that only one of the two core complexes
in ryzen 9 zen4 would have the extra
cash so it's either six with regular
cash and six plus extra cash or eight
with regular cash and eight with extra
cash and that raises a few questions how
on Earth would AMD make that work after
all Intel with their Alder Lake and then
Raptor Lake had to put extra Hardware
inside the processor it was designed in
from the start to mix together their
hybrid of performance and efficient
cores they called that technology thread
director AMD by contrast is adding 3D
cache on the existing processor with the
ryzen 7 Zen 3 Model they were really
adding extra cash and as a result you
had poorer thermal so they reduced the
power and slowed the speed slightly but
the design seemed quite straightforward
with a hybrid design in Zen 4 things
were looking rather more complicated AMD
addressed this question in a press
briefing the answer is a thing called
AMD 3D V cache performance Optimizer
driver in other words they're going to
handle the asymmetric 3D V cache in
software and as they explained that
driver in association with a second
driver called AMD PPM provisioning file
driver will essentially detect when a
game is being played ideally a game will
play on the core complex with the extra
3D cache and all would be well what
benefit might this bring AMD presented
some charts comparing the new 7950x 3D
against the Intel Core I9 3900k and also
the new ryzen 9 the 7950x 3D against the
regular ryzen 979 50x in both cases the
3D cache model shows potentially
significant gains with a handful of very
minor losses on paper this looks very
impressive you should however note the
choice of games is obviously entirely in
the hands of AMD and some of the choices
look ever so slightly peculiar you might
wonder why AMD wants to increase cash
and or stack that cash in general more
cash is better but adding more cash to a
monolithic die is expensive furthermore
cash doesn't scale as well on a given
fabrication process as core logic so it
makes sense to manufacture cash using a
different process took or logic further
furthermore if you stack your dies you
can shorten the connections and this can
be a very good thing there are downsides
you have to supply power to the 3D cache
and also you have to shed heat from the
call logic which is now covered by the
cache amd's using tsmc packaging
Technologies to make this approach work
and it matters because AMD is talking
about stacking other things in future
including regular dram as well as cash
and let's face it if you can stack
memory on top of CoreLogic why not stack
graphics on top of core logic why not
pile up your chips just as high as you
can go we're in the early days of
stacking with 3D cache but just as
chiplets are now proven and guaranteed
to be here for the foreseeable future
what happens with this 3D cache ryzen
97950x matters because this is the
future the problem as Luke discovered
with the ryzen 7 5800x 3D to date the
only 3D cache model the processor on the
market is that it's very hit and miss
feel free to make jokes about missed
cash in the comments below if we take
some of the charts from my recent core
i7 13700k review you can see that in
cinebench R23 the ryzen 7 3D is right at
the bottom of the chart and it falls
even below the regular ryzen 7 5800 in a
handbrake conversion test using h.264
once again the 3D is at the bottom of
the chart but in gaming we see something
quite different in Borderlands 3 at
1080p the ryzen 7 3D is at the top of
the chart Far Cry 6 at 1080 however has
the ryzen 7 3D towards the bottom of the
chart while shadow of the Tomb Raider at
1080p has the ryzen 7 5800x 3D right at
the top in other words it's all well and
good installing extra L3 cache whether
it's stacked or otherwise but the system
has to understand how to make use of
that cache otherwise it's no good at all
foreign
to lay the groundwork for this review
but the background matters AMD told us
they had verified one bias for
motherboards from a Zeus ASRock MSI and
gigabyte they sent us this Zeus Rog
Crosshair x670e hero which has a very
fine example they also sent us an
extensive user guide telling us how we
should prepare our new system ready for
benchmarking I'm going to run through
this at some Pace because the length of
it is extraordinary and the detail is
quite eye-watering the important thing
is that we get the 3D v-cash performance
Optimizer driver and the PPM
provisioning file drivers running the
starting point is that we need a bias
that supports the processor and then in
the bias if we choose we can manually
change Dynamic preferred cores or we can
leave it on auto by running Ms
info32.exe we can check that
virtualization based security or VBS is
enabled previously with AMD you probably
wanted to leave this feature disabled
verify that game mode is on IE we turn
off background services update the Xbox
game bar install the AMD chipset driver
that supports the 3D cache processor and
then check in device manager the AMD PPM
provisioning file is installed also
check in device manager the AMD 3D V
cache performance Optimizer is installed
within Services verify the AMD 3D V
cache performance Optimizer service is
running and as built Embraces verify the
AMD 3D V cache user.xc is running I'm
not going to try to read out this
particular line of code but do this
thing then you use the win and G keys to
open the Xbox game bar app and check
it's up to date and within the Xbox game
bar app you verify the kgl version
loaded is the same as the kgl service
version this was absolute Greek to me I
still don't know what kgl stands for if
you choose within the Xbox game bar app
you can use a check box to ensure that
any chosen piece of software is
remembered as a game and then we get a
breakdown of how the AMD 3dv cache
performance Optimizer driver actually
works in the software stack in other
words it's a series of steps if any Link
in the chain breaks the whole thing
fails it so happens the motherboard we
are sent by AMD did not have the
verified and approved bias installed but
I thought what the heck let's experiment
build a system with a 3D processor and
so I did installing the chipset drivers
appeared to go fine although I noted the
3D cache driver was not part of the
process and looking in device manager
the 3D cache was clearly absent task
manager also failed build to show the
AMD 3D V cache but what the heck let's
press ahead and try running cinebench
R23 which did not work and similarly
opening ryzen Master did not work I had
a word with AMD they confirmed I did
indeed need the new bias so I installed
it with bios 9922 replacing 9908 I went
to device manager and I now had some new
unknown devices one of them being the 3D
V cache device the other being the
integrated Graphics in the processor
which had previously been absent
installing the chipset drivers once
again we now had 3D V cache performance
Optimizer driver and once that was
installed device manager looked exactly
as we expected and now we could run
through the setup list and check that
things like the Xbox game bar were
indeed updated and everything was ready
for benchmarking let's take a look at
the test setup I've been using from a
benchmarking so the motherboard has
described a Zeus rug Crosshair x670e
hero power supply csonic vertex gx1200
that's an atx3 power supply which will
become significant in just a moment SSD
under this enormous heatsink is a
separate rocket 4.0 and for the memory
we have g-skill Trident Z5 6000.
Z5 if you must the processor installed
at the moment is the regular 5950x non
3D for the graphics card I have this
gigabyte RTX 4080 gaming OC in their
chart AMD used
90x1490 for a lot of their comparisons
so they're clearly fine with using a
combo of AMD and Nvidia and we have
poured this move but I have a 4080
rather than a 40 90.
and we plug in the 600 watt high power
connector
hang on the two ryzen nines is this
Corsair h150i Elite LCD which is a 360mm
AIO it's an excellent cooler I used it
for my Intel 13th gen launches and Luke
has also used the same cooler for his
Zen 4 reviews handily by swapping the
hold Downs to the AMD versions that are
supplied with the cooler it fits the
native mounts without any fuss
whatsoever nice and straightforward
thermal compound Arctic MX6
and on with the pump cover
as I've mentioned in previous reviews I
prefer to run the AIO fans directly off
the motherboard rather than using the
supplied Corsair Hub so I'm not using IQ
to control the fans I'm using the bias
the significant thing about switching to
the RTX 4080 from gigabyte is that when
I've done my recent Intel 13th gen
reviews and Luke has done his N4 reviews
we've both been using AMD Radeon 6950xt
graphics this is clearly a step up from
that but it means that my comparative
testing of the 5950x 5950x 3D against
Intel Core I9 13900k I've had to do some
retesting and I've been using this MSI
MPG z790 carbon Wi-Fi
happily the interchangeability of
components means I can use the same
power supply graphics card the G skill
memory I've transferred between the
system successfully and the same is true
for the Corsair liquid cooler I've been
using a separate rocket on the MSI as
well but I've used a different
installation obviously for Intel to AMD
with the system idling it pulls a rather
disappointing 130 watts of which 51
watts is going to the CPU we're going to
start with a quick run in blender to see
how the Asus treats the ryzen 97950x
this is not the processor that Luke has
reviewed it's a fresh sample sent to me
by AMD as soon as the CPU comes under
load it's immediately fed 205 Watts the
system's putting 335 Watts One Core
complex is running at 5.1 gigahertz and
the other at 4.85 gigahertz the
temperature immediately pushes up to 95
Celsius and then sits there
next we have a run in Far Cry 6 at 1440p
image quality set to ultra this
generates an impressive average frame
rate of 143 FPS and a minimum of 112 FPS
in Borderlands 3 at 1440p with the image
quality on badass the average is 152 FPS
in this run and the minimum 108 FPS
shutting the system down I removed the
ryzen 9 7950x and install the 7950x 3D
with a dollop of Arctic MX6 reinstall
the Corsair cooler and we're ready for
action with the system running we're
pulling slightly less power idle but
it's still high 121 Watts for the system
43 for the CPU in blender the Asus is
treating the ryzen 9 3D with much more
care than its non-3d friend 148 Watts
package hour and the temperature is a
mere 75 Celsius 20 Celsius cooler than
the non-3d and very little difference in
clock speed so let's see how this 3D
cache behaves in gaming Far Cry 6 at
1440p ultra settings
and this time the average is
178 FPS versus 143 and the minimum is
133 FPS versus 112. it's a similar story
in Borderlands 3 at 1440p the average is
177 FPS and the minimum 135 FPS clearly
this 3D cache is having a significant
effect so let's get to the charts
cinebench R23 multi-core I've plugged my
new data into the old data that we have
this is a pure CPU test so that should
be absolutely fine at the top of the
chart I have Luke's original ryzen
97950x drawing 215 watts and Howling
along at 38.5 000 marks behind that core
I9 13900k then my sample of the ryzen 9
7950x putting 205 Watts running at the
same speed as Luke's but scoring
significantly lower I do not understand
that I'm giving you the information as I
have it just behind that we have the
7950x 3D pulling much less power running
slightly slower and scoring slightly
lower than my 7950x sample power
consumption in cinebench we can see the
7950x 3DS using a mere 151 Watts a
regular 7950x needs just over 200. Intel
is up there in the mid 250s 260s and
we've seen them run as high as 300 AMD
much more efficient than Intel CPU
temperature running on the Corsair 360
AIO the new 3D model 75 Celsius the
regular 7950x running slightly fast with
a lot more power 95 Celsius Intel will
head towards 100 given half a chance
cinebench R23 single core Intel at the
top of the chart and then we have pretty
much a dead heat between the 7950x 3D
and the regular 7950x blender classroom
ryzen 9 7950x takes the win the 3D just
behind and then the core I9
13900k very hard to separate these three
processors only three processors in this
test because we have a new version of
handbrake 1.6.1 previously we used 1.5.1
and they behave slightly differently in
testing the fastest processor in our
h.264 conversion test Intel's core I9
13900k close behind that we have the
regular ryzen 9 7950x and then the 3D
not a lot between them but there is a
margin of Separation handbrake
conversion
h.265 the ryzen 9 7950x wins out then we
have the 3D and trailing a distance
behind the core 0930 900k 7-Zip version
21 the built-in Benchmark at the top of
the chart it's the new ryzen 9 7950x 3D
and the tiniest margin behind the
regular ryzen 97950x trailing a fairway
behind that core I9 3900k and then the
rest of the field Ada 64 memory
bandwidth This falls into two halves did
it R5 at the top as you'd expect ddr4 at
the bottom Intel has more bandwidth than
AMD 3D Mark CPU profile again I'm
plugging my data into the previous data
again it's a CPU test Luke's 7950x at
the top of the chart then the Cora 9
3900k then my 7950x and then the 7950x
3D all scoring very well but quite a
distance between them and then we get on
to gaming so because I'm testing with
the RTX 4080 we're just looking at core
I9 1800k ryzen 979 50x and ryzen 9 7950x
3D
1440p badass settings at the top of the
chart by a healthy margin it's the new
3D best part of 20 frames ahead of its
non-3d compatriot Borderlands 3 at 1080
the 7950x 3D at the top of the charts by
a significant margin then the core I9
and then the regular ryzen 9. Marvel's
Guardians are the Galaxy of 1440 very
high image quality setting
blimey there's a big gap between these
processors the new 3D at the top of the
chart by a significant margin and it's
the same story of Marvel's Guardians of
the Galaxy at 1080. the 3D is stomping
the field Far Cry 6 at 1440 Ultra preset
the 3DS at the top of the chart buy a
very small margin over the core I9 3900k
in fact if we look at the one percent
low you could easily argue that core
i9's done a better job the point here is
the regular ryzer nines trailing behind
so the new cache technology is really
helping Far Cry 6 at 1080 at the top of
the field it's the new 3D and then we
have the core I9 and then a long way
behind the regular ryzen 9 7950x Hitman
3 at 1440 Ultra preset the new 3D at the
top of the chart 10 frames behind we
have the core I9 a long way behind we we
have the regular ryzen 9. Hitman 3 at
1080 at the top of the chart it's a
close tie on average between the core I9
and the 3D and then when you look at one
percent low it's a clear win for the
core I9 however the regular ryzen 9 is
trailing behind Shadow of the Tomb
Raider at 1440. how old is this game now
look at these Monumental frame rates
though it's the new ryzen 9 7950x 3D at
the top of the chart just breaking
through the 300 FPS core I9 255 the
original ryzen 9221 these are huge
numbers shadow of the Tomb Raider at
1080 very similar frame rates to 1440
the 3D wins Watchdogs Legion at 1440
Ultra preset it's a fairly close battle
but the 3D wins Watchdogs Legion at 1080
the field space is out and the ryzen 9
7950x 3D takes a comfortable win first
gaming performance charts are fairly
hard to believe I have to confess I've
rechecked them a number of times I've
had conversations with one or two other
people who are reviewing this processor
obviously rule under NDA I get the
distinct impression that the games that
kikuru tends to use are games that favor
this processor I've heard for example
that the new Wizard game is doing some
very strange things with this processor
I haven't tried it myself but that's
what I hear on the Grapevine so it's
entirely possible there's going to be a
spectrum of games that go from losing a
percent or two to the regular non-3d
processor up to games that are 30 40
percent faster and it's entirely
possible those games I showed you are
towards that very positive end and I
don't have the negative stuff to offset
it
I suppose what I'm trying to say is I
feel almost like one of those magical
tricks is going on you know magician
offers you a deck of cards says choose a
card any card and you think you've got a
free choice and you take a card look at
it you put it back in you Shuffle the
deck the magician knows exactly what's
going on I kind of feel like something
like that is going on here amd's done
something very clever here
and I'm finding it incredibly difficult
to believe it's quite as clever as it
appears I've got chart after chart
showing this process of doing incredibly
well I have to go with the data
so pros and cons pros the good points
impressive all-round performance
undeniably so the other pro low power
draw under load
150 watts it's just mind-boggling what
amd's done here cons the negative points
High Cost of the CPU and the motherboard
the 3D 7950x is going to go on sale at
the same price as the non 3D regular
7950x however that process has had a
price cut of about 100 pounds since it
launched it was too expensive at launch
and the 12 core 7900x I believe has had
a cut of like 150 from launch price that
was far too expensive
so 699 is the price we've been given I
guess it'll go on sale here in the UK
for 6.99 pounds as an all-round
processor that you can use for pretty
much anything it seems like a reasonable
price however another of my cons is that
we haven't been able to compare the
ryzen 9 7950x 3D to the ryzen 7 7800x 3D
because of course it hasn't launched
well it has launched it's not available
yet even to us reviewers and not for
another five or six weeks
and that makes me skeptical because I
suspect that that zenfall ryzen 7 3D is
going to be blooming good for gaming it
might not be quite so good for
production work but for gaming I don't
see any reason why it won't match this
processor and of course it should be
considerably cheaper so for the moment
I'm gonna say hold your horses another
con that I have there are many steps as
I've showed you that are required to
verify the software stack is running
correctly and that software stack is
crucial to the 3D cache working
correctly as far as I can see the ryzen
7800x 3D there's no reason for half of
that software to be functioning it
should just operate just as the Zen 3 3D
ryzen 7 works
so you know you install it and it runs
at whatever power and speed setting are
built into the bias and that I think
will make life a great deal simpler
amd's gone with quite a complex solution
to make this processor work correctly
and I think they've done a good job with
it but if you can do away with all that
complication what's not to like
0.4 on my comms the idle power is rather
High using more than 100 Watts when the
system's sitting there doing absolutely
nothing or nothing as far as we're
concerned it's just excessive frankly I
think 50 watts is a bit steeper but more
than 100 I don't like that and that's
true of both the ryzen 9 3D and non-3d
so that's more cons than Pros however
when Luke reviewed the ryzen 9 7950x he
gave it 9 out of 10 and a must-have this
processor is better than that processor
in my opinion and therefore I have to
also give it 9 out of 10 and must have
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