The Scary Part of Learning About Symbolism | Jonathan Pageau (Gospel Simplicity)

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2 Aug 202105:35

Summary

TLDRThe video script explores the concept that actions, even seemingly neutral ones, carry symbolic meaning and can reflect our values and beliefs. It delves into the idea that recognizing the significance of our daily rituals can lead to a deeper understanding of our behavior and its alignment with our spiritual goals. The speaker emphasizes the transformative power of this realization, cautioning against becoming paralyzed by the overwhelming nature of our sins, and instead suggests focusing on moving towards God through prayer and seeking guidance from spiritual mentors. The discussion highlights the importance of balance in addressing our shortcomings while maintaining a connection with the divine.

Takeaways

  • 🔄 The concept of neutrality in actions is challenged, suggesting that even seemingly benign behaviors can have underlying significance or implications.
  • 👀 Recognizing the symbolic meaning in everyday rituals can lead to a deeper understanding of one's values and what they are celebrating or participating in.
  • 🚫 The danger of perceiving actions as merely rule-following, which can lead to a false sense of righteousness without considering the true meaning behind actions.
  • 🌟 The realization that all actions have meaning can transform one's self-perception and behavior, highlighting the need for a shift from focusing on rules to embodying values.
  • 😓 The potential for this realization to be disorienting and even frightening, as it can lead to the awareness of one's shortcomings and the extent of one's need for spiritual growth.
  • 🌱 The Christian life as a journey of progressive self-realization, where growth leads to an increased awareness of one's need for God and the recognition of personal darkness.
  • 🤔 The risk of becoming paralyzed by the newfound understanding of the non-neutrality of actions, leading to a struggle with everyday decisions and a sense of overwhelm.
  • 🧐 The importance of maintaining a balanced perspective, avoiding obsession or paranoia, and focusing on love and the gradual process of spiritual growth.
  • 🔑 The value of having a spiritual guide or confessor to assist in navigating the complexities of recognizing and addressing one's sins and shortcomings.
  • 🙏 The power of prayer and focusing on God as a means to naturally diminish bad habits and move towards spiritual transformation, rather than solely focusing on sins.
  • 🤝 The necessity of balancing self-effort with reliance on divine guidance, acknowledging the limitations of self-improvement without spiritual connection.

Q & A

  • What is the main idea discussed in the transcript about the perception of daily activities?

    -The main idea discussed in the transcript is that daily activities are not neutral but can have symbolic meanings, and recognizing this can transform one's perspective on their actions and their life.

  • How does the transcript suggest that recognizing the meaning in actions can change one's life?

    -The transcript suggests that by recognizing the meaning in actions, one may realize that their actions are not just neutral but are embodying patterns and celebrating certain things, which can lead to a transformation in the way they see themselves and live their lives.

  • What is the potential danger of starting to think symbolically about everyday actions?

    -The potential danger is that it can lead to paranoia or obsession, as one might start to see patterns everywhere and become overly focused on the symbolic meanings of their actions.

  • How does the transcript relate the concept of sin to the idea of non-neutral actions?

    -The transcript relates the concept of sin by suggesting that as one realizes the non-neutral nature of their actions, they may also realize that they sin more than they initially thought, as their actions may not be celebrating or moving towards what they believe in.

  • What role does the idea of 'hierarchy' play in understanding the world's symbolic meanings?

    -The idea of 'hierarchy' helps in understanding the world's symbolic meanings by suggesting that there are layers of importance and significance in the patterns and symbols one encounters, which can guide them in addressing issues in their life.

  • How does the transcript suggest dealing with the realization of one's sins and the non-neutral nature of actions?

    -The transcript suggests dealing with this realization by focusing on moving towards God, addressing issues as they present themselves, and seeking guidance from a spiritual father or confessor.

  • What is the transcript's stance on the idea of solving all one's sins at once?

    -The transcript's stance is that one should not expect to solve all their sins at once, but rather to focus on moving towards God and addressing issues as they come.

  • How does the transcript discuss the importance of prayer in relation to dealing with one's sins?

    -The transcript discusses the importance of prayer by stating that focusing on God through prayer can help diminish bad habits and sins, suggesting that it is more effective than focusing solely on the sins themselves.

  • What advice does the transcript give for someone who might feel paralyzed by the realization of the non-neutral nature of actions?

    -The advice given is to focus on love and the idea that God is calling and guiding them, to see the world in hierarchies, and to address issues as they present themselves without becoming overwhelmed.

  • How does the transcript connect the realization of non-neutral actions to the Christian life?

    -The transcript connects this realization to the Christian life by discussing it as a progressive realization of one's need for God, and how growing in faith can lead to a deeper understanding of one's sins and the need for transformation.

  • What is the transcript's perspective on the balance between focusing on God and focusing on one's sins?

    -The transcript's perspective is that there should be a balance between focusing on God and focusing on one's sins. Focusing solely on sins can lead to misery and despair, while focusing on God can help diminish bad habits and move towards a more meaningful life.

Outlines

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🌟 Recognizing the Symbolic Meaning in Daily Life

The speaker discusses the idea that everyday actions and rituals can have symbolic meaning, potentially aligning with or contradicting one's beliefs. They emphasize the importance of recognizing how actions may embody or celebrate values, and how this realization can lead to a deeper understanding of one's own actions and their implications. The conversation suggests that this awareness can be transformative, prompting a reevaluation of what one considers neutral or benign behaviors.

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🙏 The Spiritual Dangers of Over-Symbolizing and Finding Balance

This paragraph delves into the potential pitfalls of becoming too focused on the symbolic meanings of life's actions, which can lead to paranoia or obsession. It suggests that love and the guidance of a spiritual mentor can help mitigate these risks. The speaker also touches on the concept of sin and the realization of one's own shortcomings, proposing that a progressive understanding of one's need for God can lead to personal growth. The paragraph concludes with the idea that focusing on God rather than solely on sins can lead to a more balanced and effective spiritual journey.

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Keywords

💡Symbolic Thinking

Symbolic thinking refers to the cognitive process of attributing meaning to actions, objects, or events beyond their literal interpretation. In the video, it is suggested that recognizing the symbolic nature of our actions can lead to a deeper understanding of their significance. For instance, the speaker mentions that realizing everything we do is meaningful challenges the idea of merely following rules without contemplating the underlying reasons.

💡Neutral Actions

Neutral actions are those that are considered neither morally good nor bad. The script discusses the idea that what we might perceive as neutral actions could actually have underlying significance or implications. The speaker uses the concept to illustrate how our daily rituals might be more meaningful than we initially assume, potentially celebrating or participating in things we are not aware of.

💡Rituals

Rituals are a set of actions or practices performed in a regular, ceremonial manner. The video script suggests that rituals can be seen as neutral but upon closer examination, they may be found to be celebrating or participating in something significant. The speaker encourages viewers to reflect on the rituals they partake in and whether they align with their values.

💡Meaningful Actions

Meaningful actions are those that carry significance or purpose beyond the physical act itself. The video emphasizes the importance of recognizing that all our actions have meaning and can embody patterns or celebrate certain values. This realization can lead to a transformation in how we perceive ourselves and our actions, as illustrated by the speaker's discussion on how it can make us see our actions as more than just rule-following.

💡Sin

In the context of the video, sin refers to actions or behaviors that are considered morally wrong or go against a set of religious or ethical beliefs. The speaker discusses the realization that our actions may be sinful in ways we were not previously aware, suggesting that a deeper understanding of our actions can reveal more about our moral standing.

💡Spiritual Growth

Spiritual growth is the process of developing one's spiritual understanding, awareness, and connection with a higher power or purpose. The script touches on the idea that as we grow spiritually, we become more aware of our shortcomings and the need for divine guidance. The speaker's personal realization of increasing darkness in their life as they grow spiritually exemplifies this concept.

💡Paralysis

Paralysis, in this context, refers to the state of being unable to act or make decisions due to fear, doubt, or overwhelming complexity. The video mentions the potential for individuals to become paralyzed when they start seeing the world as saturated with meaning, struggling with the implications of every action. This concept is used to highlight the challenges of transitioning from a neutral worldview to one that recognizes inherent meaning.

💡Hierarchies

Hierarchies in the video script refer to the ordered systems or structures in the world that can help individuals prioritize and navigate the meaningful actions in their lives. The speaker suggests that recognizing and understanding these hierarchies can assist in dealing with the overwhelming nature of realizing the significance of all actions.

💡Spiritual Father/Confessor

A spiritual father or confessor is a religious figure who provides guidance, counsel, and support in matters of faith and spiritual growth. The script mentions the importance of having such a figure to help individuals navigate their spiritual journey, especially when dealing with the complexities of recognizing the meaning behind everyday actions.

💡Worship

Worship in the video is discussed as a form of devotion or reverence directed towards a deity or a higher power. The speaker shares a personal realization that focusing on worship and connection with God can be more effective in addressing bad habits and sins than solely focusing on the sins themselves.

💡Despair

Despair is a deep sense of loss, sadness, or hopelessness. In the context of the video, despair is mentioned as a potential outcome if one focuses too much on their sins without also focusing on their relationship with God. The speaker warns against the dangers of becoming consumed by one's sins, suggesting that a balanced approach is necessary to avoid falling into despair.

Highlights

The concept that the world is not just neutral but saturated with meaning and how our actions can be seen as celebrating or participating in something.

The realization that seemingly benign or neutral actions may have deeper meanings and implications.

The danger of thinking symbolically and how it can change one's perspective on the meaning behind everyday actions.

The idea that everything one does is meaningful and how this realization challenges the notion of simply not breaking rules.

How recognizing the meaning behind actions can transform one's self-perception and behavior.

The potential for this shift in perspective to be disorienting and even frightening as it challenges previous assumptions.

The progressive realization in the Christian life of one's need for God and the realization of personal sinfulness.

The importance of seeing the world in hierarchies to avoid becoming overwhelmed by the realization of the meaning behind everything.

The potential for this shift in perspective to lead to paralysis, as one may struggle with determining the right course of action in everyday situations.

The role of love and the reminder of God's call as a solution to the potential dangers of becoming obsessed with symbolism.

The advice to deal with sins as they present themselves, rather than trying to address them all at once.

The importance of having a spiritual guide or confessor to help navigate the complexities of this new perspective.

The recognition that one cannot solve all sins at once and the need to focus on moving towards God.

The personal testimony of the speaker about the struggle with bad habits and the realization that focusing on God rather than sins can lead to positive change.

The importance of prayer and seriously engaging with a spiritual practice to address bad habits and sins.

The balance needed between focusing on God and acknowledging one's sins to avoid falling into despair.

The transformative power of this perspective shift and how it can lead to a deeper understanding of one's relationship with God and the world.

Transcripts

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and i think it has a flip side to it

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also not only does it have this kind of

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positive side of well this is also

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positive but

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uh that you know we see the world

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through these things and we can kind of

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see how god's at work

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but i think it also shows us that maybe

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some of the things that we do that we

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think

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are fairly just benign or neutral like

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you said most of the world is neutral

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then maybe we can add meaning or

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subtract it but we can notice maybe

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these rituals that we're participating

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in

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these ways that you know we go through

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the world and it just seems i don't know

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that's just what you do

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we realize wait maybe maybe this is

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actually celebrating or participating in

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something that's

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not what i want to be celebrating or

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participating in i mean

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have is that something you've seen

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people be able to uh

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to see in their lives or that's helped

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you as you look at the world and

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realize my regular rituals aren't

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neutral

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no you're you're exactly right because

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there is there is a flip side it's a

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good that you presented that way

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there's a danger in starting to think

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symbolically

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which is that the things you do actually

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now appear to you as having meaning

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and so the idea like let's say like some

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not

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some christians have this idea this idea

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that i can basically do what i want if i

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don't

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break the rules right i can kind of do

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what i want if i don't do the things

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that god said our sins

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uh that once you start to realize that

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everything you do

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is meaningful then that doesn't hold up

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anymore you can't you just can't

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have that way of thinking uh and so it's

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so it doesn't become

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it doesn't become a an idea of like

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rules that i break or that i don't

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but it becomes the notion that all the

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acts that i do are embodying

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patterns and and are celebrating things

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it's like all the things i do are always

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celebrating

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the reason why i'm doing them and so

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that that will definitely transform the

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way you see yourself and you realize

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that you actually sin a lot more than

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you thought

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uh and just because you're constantly

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acting in ways that

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that that although you could you could

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say even like

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you could say as an ethical person it's

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not necessarily unethical

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but it's definitely not celebrating it's

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not moving towards this celebration of

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god let's say

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and so it can it can actually yes it

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it's definitely will change the way you

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live and will make you see yourself

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differently and it can be scary for for

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a while that's for sure

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i think that shift from neutrality to

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the whole world being saturated with

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meaning really is

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it can be disorienting for people

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realizing that

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these things that i just thought were

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neutral again

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aren't and wow like you said you might

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realize

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your life is maybe more sinful than you

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thought and that

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i think often a lot of the christian

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life is a progressive realization

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of our own need for god and as we grow

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we realize just how much further we are

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than

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from where we thought we were even that

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it's like i i

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as i'm getting better i'm realizing how

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much how much darkness there is and

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there's even more

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to work on there and i maybe just for

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some people because i can imagine some

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people hearing this and they begin

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to look at the world through you know

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it's not neutral these things have

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meaning

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and maybe starting to really struggle

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with just

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everyday things like okay i've lost

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neutrality but now i'm kind of paralyzed

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because there's so many things and are

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these

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like is this celebrating the wrong thing

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how how do we do this

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in a way that is helpful but not

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paralyzing does that make sense yeah no

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you're absolutely right

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because one of the problems that happens

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when people start to kind of see

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patterns in the world is that they it

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can actually drive you a little crazy

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you have to watch out to be careful

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because

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you know it can make you uh kind of

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paranoid or

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obsessed and it's a that's a definitely

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a danger the the danger can be solved

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through

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i mean to through through love i mean

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you always have to remember that that

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god

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is calling you that god that god is kind

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of slowly pulling you towards him

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and you need to see the world in

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hierarchies like what's one of the

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things in terms of

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symbolism that i always tell people

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about is that the world has hierarchies

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in it and those hierarchies will kind of

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present themselves to you

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and you have so many sins in your life

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that you can't count them and so you

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need to you need to just slowly move

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and and deal with the things that

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present themselves to you

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as let's say as possible you know

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and it's it's definitely good to have

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someone like a spiritual father or a

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confessor that can

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kind of help you along um but obviously

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you can't solve all your sins because

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it's not going to happen

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like that's not happening you're not

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gonna solve all your sins you don't even

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try

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like you just need to kind of move move

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towards uh

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move towards god you know as things

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present themselves to you

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and it's probably better to worship this

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is the one thing that i'm learning in my

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life because i've

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i've always been someone who kind of

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wants to do it on my own and

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and you know trying to it's like okay

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you know it's like yes i have these bad

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habits or i have these things that i

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would these sins that i want to deal

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with

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and so i kind of give myself you know

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okay i'm going to do this i'm going to

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do that and do that

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and uh often it doesn't work what i've

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noticed

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is that if i pray like if i take the

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time every day

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to really you know seriously pray then

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my bad habits tend to diminish on the

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almost on their own it's like

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if i focus on god it's better than just

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focusing on

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on my sins you need to kind of have both

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at the same time or else

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you're gonna be in serious trouble like

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if you just focus on your sins

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you're gonna you're just gonna fall into

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misery and despair

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Spiritual GrowthMoral ReflectionSin AwarenessLife RitualsChristian EthicsSymbolic MeaningPersonal TransformationGod's CallSin RealizationPrayer Impact
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