Dr Ken Berry Gives His BRUTAL Opinion On Fruit And Dairy

Summary

The speaker discusses the varying impacts of dairy consumption on individuals, emphasizing that while some can tolerate it, others may experience weight gain and inflammation. They argue that dairy, including raw dairy, is not necessary for adults and can negatively affect health. The discussion extends to the hormonal content in dairy and its potential health effects. Additionally, the speaker critiques the consumption of fruits for their high sugar content, suggesting that historical human consumption was driven by survival needs rather than health benefits.

Takeaways

• 🍖 Many people achieve their desired body by following a carnivore diet, consuming meat and dairy.
• 🚫 Some individuals may need to eliminate dairy entirely to reach their health goals due to its impact on weight gain and inflammation.
• 🧀 The speaker believes that dairy, including raw dairy, is not appropriate for adult humans, aligning with some vegan viewpoints.
• 🍼 Dairy is considered by the speaker to be primarily for babies, as it is designed to promote growth and weight gain.
• ⚖️ The speaker acknowledges that while fermented dairy is less inflammatory, it is not necessarily healthy.
• 📉 For some, consuming dairy can lead to higher levels of inflammation, visceral fat, and negatively impact mental health.
• 🧬 Dairy contains hormones, including naturally occurring ones like bovine growth hormone, which are designed to promote growth.
• 🏋️‍♂️ The speaker suggests that dairy might be beneficial for bodybuilders looking to bulk up but not for those aiming to maintain a lean body composition.
• 🍇 The speaker argues that the historical consumption of fruit was for survival, to store fat for harsh winters, not for nutritional benefits.
• 🌿 The discussion challenges the necessity and health benefits of consuming vegetables and fruits, suggesting they were historically consumed for survival reasons rather than for their nutritional value.

Q & A

What is the primary argument against dairy consumption for adults presented in the transcript?

The primary argument is that dairy is meant for babies and not adults. Consuming dairy can lead to higher levels of inflammation, visceral fat, and decreased mental health.

Why does the speaker believe that dairy can cause weight gain?

The speaker believes that consuming dairy, even in a carnivore diet, can lead to significant weight gain due to its natural hormone content which promotes growth and weight gain.

What are the speaker's thoughts on raw dairy products?

The speaker acknowledges that fermenting dairy can make it less inflammatory, but insists that this does not make it healthy. Raw dairy, including raw milk, cheese, and kefir, is still not considered appropriate for adults.

How does the speaker view the role of hormones in dairy and their impact on human health?

The speaker highlights that dairy contains natural hormones, not just added ones. These hormones are designed to promote growth and can contribute to weight gain and other health issues in adults.

Why does the speaker agree with some aspects of vegan perspectives on dairy?

The speaker agrees with vegans that there is no place for dairy in an ancestrally appropriate diet for adult humans.

What is the speaker's stance on the consumption of fruits in the human diet?

The speaker argues that fruits, high in sugar content, were historically consumed to store fat for survival during harsh winters. In modern times, with year-round food availability, this is no longer necessary or beneficial.

How does the speaker explain the historical consumption of fruits and its purpose?

Historically, humans consumed large amounts of fruit in late summer and fall to gain fat, which served as an energy reserve to survive through the winter when food was scarce.

What analogy does the speaker use to explain the human behavior of consuming fruits for fat storage?

The speaker compares humans to bears, which eat pounds of berries to gain significant weight for hibernation, emphasizing that the purpose was to store fat rather than gain some magical nutritional benefit.

Does the speaker believe there is a long-term benefit to eating lots of fruits and berries?

No, the speaker does not believe there is any long-term benefit to consuming large amounts of fruits and berries, as their historical purpose was for fat storage rather than health improvement.

What is the speaker's advice for people trying to achieve a lean and healthy body composition?

The speaker advises against including dairy in the diet for those trying to achieve a lean and healthy body composition, as dairy can lead to weight gain and inflammation.

Outlines

00:00

🥛 The Debate on Dairy in Carnivore Diets

The speaker discusses the varying effects of dairy consumption within a carnivore diet. While some people achieve their desired body goals with dairy, others, including the speaker, need to eliminate it entirely to avoid weight gain and inflammation. The speaker argues that dairy, even in its raw forms, is not suitable for adult humans and can lead to increased visceral fat and mental health issues. Additionally, the natural hormones in dairy, meant for growth, can adversely affect those aiming for a lean physique.

05:03

🍓 Seasonal Eating and Historical Context of Fruit Consumption

The speaker elaborates on the historical context of fruit consumption, explaining that in the past, eating fruit was a survival strategy to store fat for harsh winters. Today, with modern food storage methods like refrigerators and freezers, this is no longer necessary. The speaker compares human behavior to that of bears, who eat large amounts of berries to gain fat for winter. The argument is made that there is no long-term benefit to consuming large amounts of fruits and berries in the modern diet.

Keywords

💡Carnival

Carnival refers to a festive season that often precedes the Christian season of Lent, characterized by indulgence in food and festivities. In the context of the video, it symbolizes a period of indulgence in food, particularly meat and dairy, which some people might believe to be necessary for achieving their ideal body physique.

💡Dairy Elimination

Dairy Elimination is the practice of completely removing dairy products from one's diet. The video suggests that for some individuals, eliminating dairy is essential to achieve optimal health and body composition, as it can lead to weight gain and inflammation.

💡Ancestral Diet

An Ancestral Diet refers to a nutritional approach that mimics the eating habits of our Paleolithic ancestors, who are believed to have consumed a diet rich in meat and limited in dairy and grains. The video argues that dairy was not a part of the adult human diet in our ancestral past.

💡Inflammation

Inflammation is the body's natural response to harmful stimuli but can become problematic when chronic. The script mentions that overconsumption of dairy can lead to higher levels of inflammation, which is linked to various health issues.

💡Visceral Fat

Visceral fat is the fat stored around the internal organs and is considered more harmful than subcutaneous fat. The video suggests that consuming dairy can increase visceral fat levels, which is associated with a higher risk of health problems.

💡Mental Health

Mental health refers to a person's emotional, psychological, and social well-being. The script implies that dairy consumption can negatively impact mental health, contributing to a broader discussion on diet and its effects on overall well-being.

💡Fermentation

Fermentation is a process that involves the breakdown of sugars by microorganisms, often used in food production to enhance flavor and preserve food. The video mentions that fermenting dairy can make it less inflammatory, suggesting a nuanced view on dairy's health impact.

💡Hormones in Dairy

Hormones in dairy refer to natural and potentially added hormones present in milk and dairy products. The script discusses how these hormones, such as estrogen, can affect human health, potentially contributing to weight gain and other health issues.

💡Bodybuilding

Bodybuilding is the sport of developing one's musculature for aesthetic and competitive purposes. The video mentions that for elite bodybuilders, the hormones in dairy might be beneficial for bulking up, highlighting the context-dependent nature of dietary choices.

💡Fruit

Fruit is a natural food source rich in vitamins, minerals, and sugars. The script challenges the notion that fruit is always healthy, arguing that its high sugar content and historical role in energy storage might not be beneficial in modern contexts with year-round access to food.

💡Seasonality

Seasonality refers to the availability and consumption of food according to the seasons. The video discusses how our ancestors might have eaten fruit to gain fat as a survival strategy during times of food scarcity, a practice that may not be necessary or healthy in today's world of constant food availability.

Highlights

Many people on a carnivore diet can consume meat and dairy and achieve desired results, but some may need to eliminate dairy entirely.

The speaker, despite being on a carnivore diet, would gain weight with daily dairy consumption.

Dairy is considered inappropriate for adult humans from an ancestral perspective.

Even raw dairy (milk, cheese, kefir) is seen as less inflammatory but not necessarily healthy.

A significant subset of people should avoid dairy due to its inflammatory properties and its association with increased visceral fat and decreased mental health.

Dairy is for babies, and overconsumption can lead to negative health outcomes.

Dairy contains natural hormones, including estrogen, which can affect human health.

Human milk, often praised for its colostrum, is also full of hormones meant for babies.

Hormones in dairy, including added ones like bovine growth hormone, are meant to promote growth and weight gain.

Bodybuilders might use dairy to bulk up, but it's generally not suitable for those aiming for a lean body.

Fruits served a purpose thousands of years ago when humans needed to store fat for survival during harsh winters.

In the past, humans consumed a lot of fruit in late summer and fall to build fat reserves for winter.

Modern conveniences like refrigerators and freezers eliminate the need for seasonal fat storage.

The strategy of eating lots of fruit and berries was historically about survival, not nutrition.

Mimicking ancestral eating patterns with modern conveniences can lead to unnecessary fat gain.

There is no long-term benefit to consuming large amounts of fruits and berries in the diet.

Transcripts

there are a lot of people who can go on

Carnival they can eat all the meat they

can eat all the dairy they like and

achieve the body of their dreams see

tremendous results but do you think

there is a percentage of people who do

need to eliminate Dairy almost entirely

uh to to get to the goway 100% yeah and

I'm one of those if I continued

carnivore but I added in the amount of

dairy that I would like to consume every

day I would be 20 or 30 pounds heavy

heavier within three months and it would

not be muscle uh it's it's very this is

one thing I agree with the vegans on

there is no

place if we're being ancestrally

appropriate here there is no place for

dairy in the diet of an adult human and

I'm sorry this will make some people mad

but this includes raw dairy this

includes raw milk raw cheese raw cafir

though I think the more you ferment da

the less inflammatory it is absolutely I

agree with that but that does not make

it healthy it just makes it less bad and

so there there's a I think it's a large

subset of people that they can include

some Dairy as long as they moderate that

and and limit the the volume they can do

just fine but there's a there's a

significant subet of people that need to

realize Dairy is for babies it's not for

adults and to the degree with which you

overc consumed Dairy you're going to

have higher levels of inflammation

higher levels of visceral fat higher

levels of uh decreased mental health

you're just not going to do as well and

uh this hurts a lot of people's feelings

and I'm sorry for that but Dairy is for

babies another thing with dairy that I

see that is often not discussed very

often is the hormones that Dairy

contains you know things like estrogen

things those sorts of things you know

many people talk about the effects that

the carbohydrates have in the dairy and

the inflammatory properties that come as

a result of the pasteurization but do

you think that some of these hormones

that in Dairy are affecting human health

absolutely now and also let's be very

clear about this when you say hormones

in Dairy a lot of people think that you

mean added hormones and even the

hormones that are added to the dairy

cattle uh the the most common one is

Bine growth hormone it's it's a

naturally occurring hormone they just

give the the dairy cows higher doses of

it right and so milk is full of hormones

even human milk uh you you hear there's

a subset of people that are like oh

colostrum is great uh you know if you

can find breast milk that's great that's

also for babies it is full of

hormones that that are in there for a

specific reason and the reason is is to

make you grow and gain weight and so if

somebody's an elite level bodybuilder

there might they might want to bulk up

and then cut down there might be a place

for dairy in your diet because the

hormones are definitely going to make

you bulk up that's what they're there

for uh but for people who are trying to

get as as lean as is healthy and that

that's not too lean that's there's a c

there's a definition of what what body

fat percentage is in a healthy adult

male and female dair's not going to help

you get that most of the time if you're

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kimberry that we can do so for a lot of

people they can see the logic not eating

vegetables you know when you explain to

them how essentially plants at least to

some degree are trying to kill them and

you kind of talk it through talk talk

them through it in a more logical way

you say you know what difference is

spinach to a random plant in your garden

you know why would humans over time have

eaten this one plant that doesn't taste

very good doesn't contain the energy and

we only started agriculture 12,000 years

ago there was no vegetables in the human

diet most people can logically see that

but they under the impression that we

were eating lots of fruit so what's your

argument against

fruit fruit is very high in sugar

content and I think I think fruit did

serve a useful purpose thousands of

years ago uh human beings life was hard

then okay let's just say 50,000 years

ago no one had a refrigerator no one had

a deep freezer no one had a pantry you

either killed it brought it home and ate

it or you starve to death and so

especially during the winter and

temporate climates the winter you were

in you had a high risk of just starving

to death or becoming so malnourished

that you develop some disease which

would then kill you and so during the

late Summer and the fall it actually was

advantageous to cram all the fruit in

your mouth because that fructose was

going to cause you to store fat in your

liver and store subcutaneous fat and

even store visceral fat because back

then those things were actually

protective so then if there was a very

harsh winter you had you had reserves

you had tens of thousands or hundreds of

thousands of calories that stored energy

that you could get by Limp by and and

make it until spring a lot of people who

don't live close to Nature they don't

understand they think as soon as spring

gets here oh man there's there's fruit

and vegetables and everything everywhere

no that's not how it is if anybody has

tried to grow their own food it's it's

late summer before any food is that's

edible to Human hum is is ready so the

the spring early spring is just as

dangerous as the dead of winter you may

not freeze to death but there's also

still nothing for a human being to eat

that's why we cram the fruit and the

berries and the nuts in our mouth

because we were trying to put on 10 or

20 pounds of fat that was Insurance to

get you through the winter uh but when

now that we have refrigerators and deep

freezers you don't need that you don't

need that insurance because you're going

to have just as much food to eat in the

dead of winter as you have during the

Harvest Time uh this is hard for some

people to understand but a lot of people

try to mimic the seasonality of eating

they're like well I'm going to eat a lot

of fruit and vegetables a lot of lot of

you know fruit and and berries during

the harvest season because that's what

our ancestors did not realizing what was

the strategy why were they doing that it

they taste great sure but they were

trying to gain fat that's literally what

they were trying to do is put as much

fat on as possible we see this uh

Behavior echoed in in

Bears when the berries are ripe they'll

eat pounds of berries and they'll gain

10 20 30 40 50 pounds for the winter

they're not eating those berries because

they contain some magical

phytonutrient they're not eating all the

metalin and the fruits because they

contain some magical nutrition that's

going to improve their health they're

trying to get fat so they don't starve

to death over the winter and I I would

opine that humans mimic that behavior

and that's what got them through many of

a hard winter uh but there's no there's

no benefit to to eating lots of fruits

and berries in your diet there's no

long-term benefit of that