New Pixel 8 and OnePlus Phones!
Summary
TLDRThe hosts Andrew, Marquez, and David discuss tech news headlines like Instagram's new support for HDR photos, developments from Google's Pixel phone line including rumors about the Pixel 9, and their impressions of the new electric Rolls-Royce Spectre luxury sedan. Other topics include potential AR and VR applications for Disney's 'Hollow Deck' walking floor technology, New Jersey requiring gyms to allow online membership cancellation, and reviews of recent phones like the OnePlus 12.
Takeaways
- 😀 The hosts discuss recent tech news headlines like Instagram supporting HDR photos, OnePlus 12 release, and Tesla price increases.
- 📱 OnePlus 12 seems like a solid upgrade with Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, bright OLED display, Hasselblad camera.
- 📷 Instagram now supports uploading HDR photos from Galaxy phones, which may blast brightness if viewing in dark mode.
- 🔋 Tesla increased prices across lineup without warning, likely due to supply chain costs and demand.
- 🏋️♂️ New Jersey now requires gyms to allow online membership cancellation, preventing inconvenient in-person cancellations.
- 🛼 Disney research created a 'magic carpet' floor with rotating tiles to simulate walking in VR without actually moving.
- 👀 Pixel 9 renders leaked showing a bold camera visor design with hard edges unlike the Pixel 8's slopes.
- 😎 Rolls-Royce Spectre EV is super plush and smooth but very expensive at over $500k with options.
- 🌠 The Rolls-Royce starlight headliner has occasional shooting stars for a magical effect.
- 💵 Tesla Plaid+ price increased by $15k overnight to $138k showing the rapid changes in EV market.
Q & A
What are the hosts of the podcast discussing in this episode?
-In this episode, the hosts are discussing tech news headlines and other topics by picking them out of a hat. It's a segment they call 'Headlines in a Hat'.
What is the hosts' opinion on HDR photos and videos?
-The hosts seem to have mixed opinions on HDR photos and videos. Marques says it can be jarring when scrolling through low brightness and then seeing a bright HDR photo. Overall, they think HDR should be optional and it needs more widespread compatibility before becoming the default.
What did the hosts like about the Rolls-Royce Spectre?
-Some things the hosts liked were the purple LED lighting, the heated seats, the 'lambswool' carpet, the soft suspension and throttle/braking response, and the stars/shooting stars on the ceiling.
What is the hosts' view on walking mechanics in VR games?
-The hosts believe the walking mechanics in VR games are one of the biggest immersion breakers. Solutions like omnidirectional treadmills or this new hollowdeck tile floor from Disney could help make walking in VR feel more natural.
What are the hosts' thoughts on the OnePlus 12?
-The hosts seem to have an overall positive view of the OnePlus 12. They think it's a solid upgrade with new 2024 features like the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3. Marques says it's a 'good phone' at a decent $800 price point.
What is Photomode discussed in the episode?
-Photomode is a new Pixel feature that uses on-device AI to transform your favorite photos into animated reactions that you can use in messaging apps.
What is the hosts' view on Magic Compose?
-Magic Compose is a Gmail-like auto reply feature for Pixel Messages that uses generative AI to create contextual suggested responses based on your messages. The hosts seem interested but unsure if it will be better than default quick replies.
What is the hosts' opinion on flat phone edges?
-The hosts have mixed opinions. David and Andrew seem to like the flat metal edges on phones like the iPhone. But Marques thinks the Pixel 6's curved glass edges looked more intentional as a single piece.
What did the hosts think about the purple Rolls-Royce paint job?
-The hosts thought the purple satin paint job costing $13,000 extra on the Rolls-Royce Spectre was pretty cool and fancy looking.
What did the hosts like about the OnePlus haptics?
-The hosts were impressed by the haptic feedback on the OnePlus 12, particularly the triple-tap shimmy sensation when clearing notifications.
Outlines
🎤 Introducing podcast hosts and topic
The hosts Marquez, Andrew and David introduce themselves and the Waveform podcast. They mention it has been a busy January. Marquez makes a joke about trying to make "Jan-uary" a thing.
📱 A distracting calendar app
Marquez talks about being distracted by a newly launched calendar app called Amy. He clicking on a Verge article about it and being drawn in by the app's beautiful website. He discusses his weakness for productivity apps that combine calendars, email, and to-do lists.
📝 Discussion of notes and task apps
The hosts discuss their preferences for notes and task management apps. David uses Google Keep, Marquez has tried Things and TickTick. They talk about the struggle to switch between apps when trying out a new productivity system.
🗓 Google Calendar merits and calendar apps
Adam argues that while calendar apps may look visually similar, the difference is in features for adding events, drag-and-drop, etc. Marquez adds that Amy combines calendar, email and tasks to allow dragging emails and tasks directly onto your calendar.
📆 Notion Calendar launch
The hosts have recently switched to using Notion Calendar. Marquez compares it to Amy in terms of combining calendar and tasks. He is willing to forego some convenience to try Amy's features.
💪 New Jersey gym law
Andrew talks about a new New Jersey law requiring gyms to allow online cancellation of memberships. The hosts agree this should be federal law, similar to unsubscribing from emails.
📱 OnePlus and Samsung software
Continuing the software discussion, David asks about a Samsung feature to auto-organize Keep notes. Marquez clarifies it is in Samsung Notes. They discuss OnePlus changing Oxygen OS to Color OS.
🔮 Pixel 9 renders leak
Renders allegedly showing the Pixel 9 and 9 Pro design have leaked. The camera area resembles Among Us characters. The overall style mimics iPhone with flat sides but a disconnected camera bump.
☀️ Instagram and HDR photos
Instagram now supports uploading HDR photos from Galaxy phones. The hosts discuss how jarring it can be when highly dynamic photos appear unexpectedly in feeds viewed under low brightness.
📸 Pixel updates: Search circle, temperature
Marquez details new Pixel 8 updates: 1) Search circle like Samsung to search screen contents 2) Take skin temperature readings 3) Transform photos into Emoji reactions.
🚘 Discussing the Rolls-Royce Spectre
The hosts reminisce about reviewing the Rolls-Royce Spectre luxury electric vehicle. Talking points: suicide doors, plush Lambswool floor mats, starry ceiling, heated seats.
💡 Sentiments on OnePlus 12 series phones
Marquez gives brief impressions on recently launched OnePlus 12 and 12R phones. Good value for specs like bright OLED and Snapdragon 8 Gen 3. Shows haptics using precise “shimmy” vibration.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡OLED
💡HDR
💡knits
💡Ultra HDR
💡quick settings
💡OxygenOS
💡ColorOS
💡hasselblad
💡alert slider
💡Snapdragon 8 Gen 3
Highlights
They reviewed the electric Rolls-Royce Spectre which has 260 miles of range and costs around $500,000.
The Rolls-Royce has suicide doors, is as big as a pickup truck, and has stars on the ceiling that occasionally shoot across.
The LED lights inside were purple and twinkled without flickering on camera due to high refresh rates.
The heated seats were better than any other car's and felt exceptionally nice.
The 2 inch thick plush 'carpet' made from lambswool was incredibly soft.
The suspension, steering, throttle and braking were all exceptionally smooth and gradual.
Shooting star effects on the ceiling can occasionally be seen on the doors too for $13,000 extra.
The vents were made of heavy polished metal that make a 'ding' sound when adjusted.
The paint colors like purple cost $13,000 extra for custom colors.
Instagram now supports HDR photos which can blast brightness when scrolling at night.
HDR should be opt-in, not default, to avoid uncomfortably bright images in dark environments.
Early renders of the Pixel 9 Pro leaked showing a very strange, blocky camera bump design.
The OnePlus 12 seems like a solid, upgraded variant of the OnePlus 11 with new specs.
The haptics on the OnePlus 12 provide a triple tap, shimmy feeling when clearing notifications.
The marble-like pattern on the green OnePlus 12 version was particularly appealing.
Transcripts
I don't know I think these companies are
just like we have way brighter OLED
displays now we should take advantage of
them and develop new technology that can
take advantage of it but I'm like it's
fun it feels buzzwordy like it's like a
feature thing at this point and what are
we going to do with all these knits yeah
we got all these extra knits what are we
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do all right what is up people of the
internet welcome back to another episode
of the waveform podcast we're your hosts
I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David and
this has been
uary I'm just saying it true I have to
it's been so much more stuff than we
expected St trying to make fetch happen
all right I'll stop no no but someone
did suggest the name Jan you wear like
software or
Hardware okay better Oh I thought you
were going to say wear because there's
so many wearables but there's not that
many wearables yeah the AI pin is not
coming out yet yeah is that still a
thing do people still is that February
2nd so it's not January so there's maybe
I don't know why a great intro anyway
we're hosts I'm Marquez we I knew I knew
I said that already I don't know why I
tried to do that twice today we're doing
headlines in a hat we've done this
before uh you guys know how it goes
basically Andrew's got a hat here it's
full of a bunch of headlines and they're
all get at headlines cuz you hat that
you actually we still need to make this
an actual hat we need the headlines and
a hat merch that is a hat oh yeah okay
so a headlines and a hat hat is what
you're saying we should make one okay I
like that idea but the point is uh lots
of smaller things today and we'll
probably have different varying lengths
of things to talk about so we'll just
put them in a hat and and go through and
see what they are I'm excited who wants
to pick first I'll pick first I'll pick
first stare off why not I don't know I'm
just the guy who shakes that this is one
this is gigantic okay my headline and
hat oh this is my favorite one oh no no
sorry to the viewers and listeners I
truly apologize for what we're about to
talk about okay so uh Adam Adam puts it
in the slack a couple hours ago I'm
about to pass out the Verge posted Amy
is a
beautiful simple calendar app am i
e now if you know
me you know that I have a bit of a
weakness for I think toxic trait is the
correct term it that you know I like I
prefer to call it like it's something
I'm working on um but I saw this and I'd
never actually gotten to use it or I
don't think I've even heard of Amy so I
I clicked it and you can blame Adam for
this I immediately dive down the rabbit
hole Now The Verge article just looks
like a normal article and I'm like
looking at it reading about some of the
features looks pretty cool and then I
click the link to go to the
website and for some
reason it's an incredibly beautiful
website and I was immediately drawn in I
do have a huge we weakness for websites
that as soon as you click on them or or
applications that when you install them
it's just like you seen this website
look at this look at this website I'm
just going to for our video viewers you
can actually see what's going on but
there's like floating glass windows that
all converge into a moving calendar and
it's to-dos email and calendar allinone
now I will just preface this I don't
want to waste you guys time I just want
to say like I've tried a lot of these
things and the core apps in my life are
my to-do list my calendar and my email
and one of the biggest promises that a
lot of these all-in ones make is
combining two or three of them so a lot
of times it's the calendar or a lot of
times it's the calendar and to-do list
so you'll be able to put tasks on your
calendar that type of thing but in order
to commit to one you have to decommit
from the two other apps that you were
using so whatever calendar app you were
using you don't use that anymore and
whatever tasks app you're using all the
systems you had set up there you don't
use that anymore you have to hope all
those features are in this hybrid app
yeah I haven't tried Amy yet but that's
the number one thing I'm concerned about
going in is I don't know if the to-do
list features are going to be as robust
as what I currently use with tick tick
and I don't know if all the CER features
are going to be as robust as what I
currently use with notion calendar and
there's an email client built in which I
can almost guarantee isn't as robust as
what I do with superhuman so all of
these things have to have some sort of
extra advantage to convince me to merge
them all into one place there's also no
Android app and there's
also what cry there's no Android app
unfortunately and it also it's a
subscription so oh I have to really like
it and I'm going to try it I feel like
the day that you stop using tick tick is
the day Hell Freezes Over the day the
cybertruck comes out and the pro becomes
reality that could be I should probably
stop using tic te like now no I stop
using tic te once every two months when
I try something else like I tried one
called routine pretty recently I tried
one and that was that was tasks and
calendar but no email um and I tried
another one I'm forgetting the name of
and I try things like every six months
like there's a lot of it's called things
yeah things to doist app sorry yeah I
use both Google keep and Google notes
and there's no organizational what is
Google Notes oh sorry Apple notes oh
okay and Google keep I got scared no
organizational structure alarm app
anyone no I use clock I use keep I use
keep for taking notes during reviews so
when I'm driving a car or using a phone
as soon as I set it up I set up a new
Google keep uh note for that thing to
keep rolling notes of observations as we
go so that when I'm ready to write the
review I just dump it into the dock so
that then the new um cuz wasn't it in
the Galaxy Event there was the like use
your keep notes and it would organize
them and bullet point them and
everything no so I like that feature but
I'm not trying to switch to Samsung
Notes because what if the next phone I
review isn't Samsung was it Samsung
Notes or was it Galaxy Ai and then would
that work inside of I think it was
Samsung Notes I'm going to assume it not
like an overstructuring thing it's just
a bunch of AI features and a bunch of
different apps yeah Samsung Notes is the
specific like OCR and like handwriting
recognition and all that yeah yeah damn
so yeah I mean you have a first you
haven't downloaded it yet oh I have you
have oh you did yeah what do you think y
so I got it I I signed in I I I checked
all the boxes I gave it access to my
entire life you can give it your Apple
Health Data yeah you can give it Spotify
for some reason zo what no I I
immediately I didn't even read it I just
said yeah have it all okay I have a
question I have a question okay I don't
understand what why people don't just
use Google Calendar to move on with
their life I me what is it about
calendar apps that are better than any
other calendar app cuz every screenshot
I see of like every calendar app just
looks like every other calendar app I
did make the joke that the screenshot in
here just looks like what I see Marquez
using every day in this calendar app
that's a totally reasonable observation
calendars fundamentally all I'm about to
get okay oh I'm ready let's
go Adam's also a freak so any
AD no they calendars you can only
organize them visually in so many
different ways right it's time you you
have a week so you have to have seven
slots for your days like we kind of
figured out how to visually visually
organize your calendar sure but then
there's the actual UI for inputting and
managing and moving around in that
visual space so a lot of people just put
like meetings and like a couple things
they need to remember birthdays whatever
on calendars and that's all they put um
I know people who don't really even put
times or locations they just have to
remember that something happens one day
they just make it an all day event for
that day and they just know I am not
that type of person I need to actually
put the blocks out for time so that I
know because I have a lot of things
going on right so a lot of these
calendar apps aren't changing visually
anything at all what they're changing is
how you get about moving things adding
things subtracting things marking them
as done marking them as onto the next
one reallocating space sharing available
space for a meeting like all that stuff
that comes with this calendar thing
that's what they all try to mess with so
this one having email and to-dos built
in they're trying to convince me to drag
to-do list items directly onto the
calendar to commit to doing it at a
certain time oh so like when you go
through your to-do list it wants to add
that to the calendar and do that yeah
and when you get an email you want to
commit to doing the tasks from that
email at a certain time so you drag it
onto the calendar you can drag the email
onto the calendar yeah oh so that's a
New Concept for a lot of these hybrid
apps that there been a lot of these that
have been launching recently email apps
or calendar apps or task apps just keep
launching oh yeah and Google keeps
trying to like fin like mess with things
too to try and add some of these
features in it but the other thing too
is that Google is such a like the Google
Calendar app they're not going to mess
with that fundamentally yeah so many
people use it until they shut it down
until they shut it down eventually
inevitably in like 3 years but all of
these random little apps do you think
Google is ever going to have an
integration that shows when you listen
to Spotify why would I care about it's
just fun it's just cool what if I want
to know how many steps I usually take on
Mondays you look at your watch or you
could just look at your calendar check
out your calendar and it'll oh my God
nice little color gradient stuff like
that it's one of those things where I'm
like I get it's just a calendar app and
I kind of have that same sentiment but
then realize like it's the same people
who say like why do you need wireless
charging how long does it take to just
plug your phone pH and it's like yeah
but if you're saving all that time and
all those different times it does add up
and like it is convenient so maybe I
just need to try it I'm willing so very
funny funnily humorously they they just
announced notion calendar which just
came out this lastek oh yeah that was
and that was it's it's what did it used
to be called it was Kon yeah so you guys
just switched to that right it is the
same app just with a Rebrand I think
they got bought by notion yeah we've
been using Kon for a while as our
calendar so they just re they repackaged
does that feel better or worse than this
new one that you're looking at
um it's like asking a car Enthusiast
like does this car feel better or worse
there are things that I like about and
I'm very used to in KRON SL notion
calendar but I'm willing to forgo some
of those to try some new features that
this one might have okay cool you know
yeah yeah I like that all right well
yeah that's about all I got shout out to
my fellow calendar enthusiasts next next
headline all right oh that could have
been it I'm trying to for so audio
listeners can hear us
shaking that's me shaking all right okay
I can't believe I got this headline um
all right so New Jersey yes this is a
quick one this is local New Jersey news
um for all our Jersey listeners out for
everyone that knows I would argue it's
Universal I would argue everyone agree
to this everyone should should should
like this yeah's theine okay so I don't
live in New Jersey to be clear however I
do go to a gym in New Jersey here
because we have one at the office uh New
Jersey just made it a law that all gyms
in the state are required to have an
online cancellation
option now yes yes yes yes now this is
actually extremely important um because
in the United States at at least I don't
know in what if this is like a in other
countries but at least in United States
there are a lot of very cheap gyms that
are like $10 to $15 a month they have a
lot of random hidden fees like once a
year you have to pay $6 for some reason
and blah blah blah anyway you can sign
up online in like two seconds and they
don't let but they don't let you uh stop
your membership online you not only have
to be in the gym but you also have to in
many cases you have to like write a
letter as to why you need to cancel and
like send it by paral mail to the
headquarters
in which case they could just say like
we didn't even get it small story when I
lived in San Francisco the day I was
moving out of San Francisco leaving got
rid of my apartment I went to my gym to
cancel and they were like oh like the
manager has to be here and he's not in
today and I was like but I'm moving and
they're like yeah come back like what
absurd and so I ended up going back and
forth with them for like 4 hours until
they like made an exception but it's
like a horrible experience so the fact
that the New Jersey state government
issued this in one state is great I
really wish Biden would go after this if
he's going to go after Ticket Master but
you know just just throwing it out there
another big Jersey W served up fresh
just another checkbox for the greatest
state in the in theion wait but didn't
didn't the same guy say that Central
Jersey doesn't exist no no he put into
law that Central Jersey does exist oh
into
law not maybe not law but they changed
some like new maps that he tweeted about
it he tweeted about it sick TW about it
it's official baby yeah that's all we
need this needs to be the case all over
the United States everyone should be
able to cancel their gym membership
online yeah 100% the same actually I was
going to say the same amount of ease of
use as unsubscribing from an email
newsletter but it should be even easier
that is a pain sometimes if you just
don't click five of them it should just
unsubscribe you yeah David can you shake
that hat for
me oh thank you
wow does it affect at all which one you
pick I don't know maybe pixel 8 mint and
feature drops oo oh that's not the
headline wa bring it they're minting a
pixel 8 nft
yeah wait should it's that's called an
air drop not a feature drop oh my God
that just reminded me of this salop
phone 2 I'm not going to do it though
I'll be right back salop phone 2 do you
didn't hear about this no oh my God no
please no dude I'm getting tagged on the
regular for pre-orders for The salana
Saga phone 2 no way but does it come
with Bonk I bet I bet it has lots of oh
wow crypto related benefits to those who
are in those ecosystems I'm sure I don't
know anything about the physical phone
by the way nobody has tagged a single
piece of information about the phone the
camera is it better who knows the
battery is it bigger nobody's mentioned
that to me but they are quick to mention
that it has 40,000 pre-orders and crazy
you can pre-order now and it ships in
20125 it's not clear that it's a phone
yes says salana chapter 2 okay but if
you go down to the FAQ question number
four is is chapter 2 a phone and they
don't explicitly say yes oh my God can
you guys stop sending this to me please
sounds like you're going to get sent a
lot more it says how much will this
product cost become a top refer oh my
God this is why they the product will
fur will oh it's definitely going to be
an AI thing oh no rabbit R2 it's
definitely rabbit already selling to
salana it says this product will further
what we set out to do with salana Saga
which was to make crypto products and
services more accessible to the public
by putting web 3 securely in your hands
yeah it it doesn't say it's a phone I
bet this is definitely an AI a handheld
AI it is a non-refundable deposit I'm
going to get the nonrefundable $450 I'm
going to get the mint pixel i' I'd much
rather talk about thex is that already
announced this is at the bottom of their
website is my deposit refundable no the
mint pixel is announced yes really yes
the day before this goes live got it be
right back okay all right I'm back I
bring with me a phone here it is so hot
look at that col this is the minty this
is the mint colored pixel 8 8 Pro
actually uh we've seen this before like
mid cycle refresh new colors of phones
um this is the most OnePlus thing Google
has ever done because it's always yeah
the OnePlus would always three months
after the launch of the phone drop a new
color just to recreate hype for it and
it's been three months at at least it's
not a te like a pixel 8 T that's true
it's a it's an 8 Pro with a new color
feels so nice it is the satin same same
pixel we know in love and there is a new
feature drop associated with it so
there's a couple new things that pixel
is getting um but this is a new color I
think it looks uh kind of like a light
seafoam green type of thing yeah very
toothpast that feature drop was
basically everything that was announced
at Samsung unpack yeah you want to hear
the list yeah oh actually there's one
new thing yeah there is so yes Circle to
search Y is coming to the pixel 8 and 8
Pro which is kind of the same thing I
mean you can picture it already you hold
the gesture bar or the home button at
the bottom and then you can Circle or
tap whatever's on your screen I love
this feature I'm very happy it's coming
to the pixel the other thing is take
your temperature with the pixel 8 Pro F
approve we've all been waiting for it
you remember this feature there's a
thermometer app on the pixel 88 Pro just
the 8 Pro and it's been able to measure
all kinds of things Metals f bricks for
no reason whatever else you measure
liquids I guess um and they're adding
humans to the list so I'm guessing it
got FDA approved whatever they're
finally able to say that it can measure
your skin temperature around your
forehead I don't even know what
temperature I should be getting when I
measure my forehead well no if you're
doing it your internal temperature is
supposed to be 90 your core temperature
yeah so when you like when you do a
laser like forehead temperature it still
comes out as that correct like when
you're getting at the doctor's office I
never get it's never super accurate and
also everyone's temperature is slightly
different regular temper yeah but it
still should be around that 98 de right
I've never got an external measurement
that high my question is like we we kind
of have determined that a lot of even
smart watches are like very bad at
actually reading your temperature yeah
so wasn't it the only the thing that
they're mostly good for for like telling
if you're sick or like the uh the like
cycle maintenance stuff is like the
Delta between your temperatures and if
there's a ex stream off so the problem
is like you're not going to be ticking
your temperature with the pixel like
every day right so like how are you
going to know you won't really you'll
just have to remember what you usually
get and there's probably not like Google
Keep integration to keep a tab on how
many times you've measured yourself yeah
it's probably not going to be that
useful I think we should test to see the
update to see how much it's gotten and
if it's accurate and we could test it
against a real temperature it's kind of
like when we did the pedometer short we
could do pixel versus real thermometer
or something like that laser thermometer
core thermometer I'll try it pixel
thermometer I got I got to buy like a
regular mercury thermometer yeah the uh
it does I think I have one in my you
have a mercury thermometer perfect any
want to take a
Tempe still says a forehead infrared
thermometer should still be between 97
and 99 okay allce all right I guess I
just have a cool forehead they are less
accurate yes or because you just have no
blood flow the outside of your body like
the the surface of your body is more
likely to change depending on your
environment than the inside of your body
yeah everyone knows someone with cold
feet you'd never get 98.6 measuring feet
yeah yeah well that's the headline Min
minty pixel I like itxel wait what else
is in the feature drop thermometer oh
yeah there's two other ones I think
there's two others you want to hear the
other two photo yeah photoemoji
photoemoji allows you to transform your
favorite photos into reactions with the
help of on device Google AI That's epic
bad naming though photo Emoji makes it
sound like it's going to do like animoji
or stuff like that but I do like it is
this something you can use like in um
messages Google messages I imagine
that's the primary like reactions or
Emoji I think it's going to be an emoji
that moves in the message it moves yeah
like yeah there yeah stickers which
every phone seems to make a big deal
about dropping as a feature and I never
use them so I'm not even Samsung just
did that too yeah Samsung just did it
and Apple's already done it message yeah
I I my okay so uh my good friend Omar
shout out Omar if you're listening to
this is a uh he he's a visual artist he
mostly works with uh he does a lot of
different things but he does a lot with
pencil and paper and he was showing me
that for his work he uses the sticker
function um to uh SC take like SC scan
his sketches because he can get them on
a transparent background effectively and
then because it saves to a cloud Bank in
the messages when he he does it on his
phone like when he's on the subway
sketching and then he opens his iPad and
can take all of his new stickers
straight to procreate to collage them
and I was like cool and the cutouts are
really good because it's just pencil on
paper it can get the edges perfectly
yeah and it's it tends to be a pretty
good cutout that is like the perfect
exact use case I would expect to see in
an apple commercial and be like I know I
had no idea that was a thing people did
but that's perfect for that I know it's
and it syns across devices it's yeah
just like using Final Cut on the iPad on
the train yeah which people totally do
for sure yeah anyway the last thing is
Magic compose powered by Google's
generative AI technology magic compos
crafts stylized suggested responses with
the context of your messages so it'll
write texts back to your friends so this
is the same as the Gmail auto reply I
mean messages already have auto reply in
them but this one will have the context
of the whole conversation maybe how you
talk already so instead of I'm on my way
it's see you in a minute big dog
something I don't know I mean I would
just like it to just say like yes or
okay instead of the like sure thumbs up
that like everyone I accidentally click
on when like I'm trying to
respond yeah yeah we'll try it all well
let's try it all I'm excited let's take
a break we got a bunch more stuff in the
Hat I'm look at it over there it's still
teaming with exciting headlines so we'll
get back to headlines in a hat but
before we take a break trivia trivia in
a hat in a hat trivia in a
hat this like a cat in a hat like remix
first question usb OTG yeah the OTG
stands for what that's right I've never
even heard of USB when I plug my phone
in what USB you've definitely heard of
USB LTG I know that but I don't know
that you know what I mean yeah yeah like
I know that standard but I don't
actually know the answer I can picture
exactly where it shows up on my phone
I'm just trying to remember what it
stands for Adam would like it to stand
for Over the Garden Wall I wish oh man
if every USB device had an Over the
Garden Wall like option can I propose
something yes over the this is not this
is not multiple choice right ring not
multiple choice the r hole OTG is three
letters it is can we get one point no
per
letter available and you have to get all
three of them
right several one or two if I get one of
the letters right I'd be happy to get a
point
no okay all right well I tried I tried
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this time it's Andrew's turn to pick oh
twice in a row oh oh it's like a snake
draft wait is it your turn oh it is your
turn snake draft you go one two 3 3 two
one sure let's do that or what if Adam
and Ellis want to pull one out do you
want to pull one out I'm cool okay all
right snake draft it is snake snake
draft Disney arvr walking floor oh I saw
this yeah that's not quite the headline
and maybe as a headline that's like our
Tech version of the headline but there's
a video from the Disney
imagineering uh Department Department
thank you I don't know what that's
actually called um and they created this
like really cool floor what's Hollow de
Hollow deck floor Hollow deck floor and
like I'm sure you've all seen where VR
can we all agree that the most the thing
that breaks immersion the most in VR
games is walking okay I have I can see
where you're going with this and I know
exactly what I want to say go ahead say
now or you want me to going I can I feel
like I know where you're going okay so
like the old the old walking things that
I've seen and maybe there's some other
ones but it's kind of like you're
slipper you either need to teleport or
you need to use your controller then
there was the one where you're kind of
like it's called like omn floor or
something yeah it's basically a like
Dome floor and you have like slippery
things on your Sho and you're like in a
thing and you're and you're walking it
like pulls you back into the middle this
is like a bunch of tiles that somehow
couldn't they like change Direction by
how you're walking and then you walking
without going anywhere yeah and it can
like kind of move you around it's for a
bunch of other things as well yeah um
but it looks like potentially one of the
coolest ways to walk in VR it's kind of
a cool video they have like there's this
guy that works for Disney research
that's been working there for a very
long time just an inventor what's his
name Lanny Smoot that's a great name
yeah um he plays saxophone he also
invented that realistic lightsaber that
Disney Rec has been touting The Verge
just did an article on that today I
think actually yeah it's like a it's
like a telescoping lightsaber that looks
very realistic comes out slowly and
stuff uh but this hollow floor looks
very yeah yeah so I have two different
Siz comp not complaints
just question marks about it okay okay
okay one is you remember you were
talking about the thing where you're
like kind of there's something around
your waist and you can walk or run yeah
it feels like in a game if all you can
do is walk there's got to be some point
in the game where you want to run or go
a little faster and I just wonder what
happens on the surface I don't really
know they had some cool uh some really
cool interesting things where he's like
on a chair sliding around like all kinds
of other things I think that's really
cool and the tech is very impressive but
the other thing about VR and moving
around which makes some of these um
movement mechanics so difficult is you
also want to sync the environment
movement with your actual inner ear
feeling of movement so the reason why
teleport works so well is because you
just point at a spot on the ground and
you snap there and at no point do you
feel the environment moving while you're
not actually moving right because the
second you do that and you see movement
but you don't feel movement you're it
just that's how like the nauseating
feeling happens and with this it's like
super cool that you're actually walking
and you'll see movement walking in the
environment but your inner ear will
still not feel walking cuz you're not
moving
so forward is that if you're running on
a treadmill you don't get like ill well
that's because you can see that you're
not moving so you can see that you're
not moving on a treadmill and your legs
are fine but you can feel that you're
not moving and you can see it so it
matches in the VR headset you're walking
and you can feel that you're not moving
in your inner ear but you see that you
are moving so you still will feel but
how is this different from like the Dome
thing where you're like running cuz in
VR you're still moving forward that will
also be extremely nauseating have you
used that no but I guarantee you'll feel
the same difference H really yeah I've
used it before in that Dome thing and it
was not pleasant I think that's just cuz
the Dome thing wasn't good that's also
true cuz it was at like yes or something
that's the fundamental reason why it
feels like motion sickness like in the
games in VR where you're sitting in a
chair but you're moving through an
environment that also tweaks your
balance because you see that you're
moving but you feel that you're not
that's why it gives you motion sickness
MH so this doesn't change that but it's
still cool that you are like moving your
legs which I think is awesome we're
gonna have to put it to the test and go
to Disney and this might be a good
reason why a lot of AR games are more
fun to move around than VR games can we
just change our whole studio floor to
this so I don't have to walk slide me
across no matter how hard you run you
don't go anywhere no or the opposite it
can also just send you places like he's
using it as different examples too of
like I could see them using this in a
show or something like one guy's
pretending to move an Apple box around
the floor and it's moving the Apple box
around the floor I'm still don't know
what these tiles are exactly yeah they
don't really explain it at all it's
Disney kind of wild like it they kind of
like slope in different directions and
in this two people can be moving in
opposite directions which is wild um
it's I have seen like this
omnidirectional treadmill before that it
detects like the direction that you're
walking and it moves you the opposite
direction and it can go every every way
yeah and that sort of works the same way
um so this tile based thing seems kind
of weird maybe it's just because it's
more modular it looks like if you look
really closely it's like individual
spinning disc yeah was say on a log they
like rotate also or so they spin in
certain directions that you feel the
motion or it pushes you in a certain
emotion I'm interested also like how
hard you like how fast you can walk or
if there's a certain like I'm now
walking in the video they're all walking
really slow it's a very specific walk
but though I
I hope they keeping on it I do feel like
that would beol for it to like work
really well on a large floor that' be
kind of sick yeah I think the reason a
lot of people are saying this is like
the next step towards the hollow deck
which for people that don't know in Star
Trek there's like a room you can go in
that that's what basically like it's it
uses AR but like projections and also
like everything basically just turns
into the simulation of what you want it
to be and there's whole plot lines of
like don't get too lost in the hollow
deck you have to remember that it's fake
and it's not real life because people
can get lost in there forever and
they'll have the perfect world and they
don't want to go back to reality it's a
very early conception of like don't get
lost in VR your your brain will rot away
um and that real life is a little more
sad than the perfect VR world but you
have to deal with it but what if we're
already in the VR World Poss that's a
simulation Theory but but a lot of
people are saying this is like the next
step in it because theoretically if you
had like a lightweight like arvr headset
and you could go into a room that had
all these tiles around it and you could
walk around like you could be on a
mountain field you could be whatever you
could be walking around and you just
have no idea so it's just like
simulating anything for your brain which
is got it always fun yeah simulation I
think this would be cool I'm excited for
when VR despite your ear thing you're
talking about can walk I'm convinced
it's going to be more like what you said
Andrew I think the this is going to get
used mostly in like shows and like he
wasn't talking about just arvr I threw
in here because I do think that's cool
and we're talking about AR and VR a lot
and I guess mostly VR less AR um but it
stinks when there's a really cool VR
game and then the walking just
completely takes you out yeah you know
what I think this is going to be great
for uh oh all
right no offense I love your dog Adam
but picture this it'sing out your dog
15° outside you don't want to take your
dog for a walk that sucks slap these
goggles on your dumb dog throw them on
this thing they got have the best walk
of their life you remember have you seen
the
Vans these there's these like vans that
come around to people's house and they
have like a dog treadmill in it and they
put them on like a collar and they
just Sprint it's crazy how fast they're
okay so much money not have to do the
thing that they signed up to do okay
Niche next headline that I just picked
out of the Hat I didn't shake it I'm
sorry um pixel 9 Ren are already leaking
that was fast I want to note that is
January I also want to note that we're
not
surprised um only nine months away you
could have an entire child in the time
that it's going to be before this
product is supposed to come out so if
you want to have a baby at the same time
the pixel 9 is launching do it right now
um so there are renders of the pixel 9
Pro allegedly allegedly alleged renders
by links and my spart price as usual as
is tradition around here I don't know
what year it is because the same thing
happens every year um but they are very
weird looking it's a it's a like the
trend now is to make the front and the
sides of everything look exactly like an
iPhone flat flat front flat sides metal
rails but the camera bump once again
looks even weirder than last year once
again it is different because it not
sloped in to the rails according to this
that's my least favorite thing the
camera bump yeah I weirdly kind of dig
it it's a static
Island part of what makes the pixels
visor feel intentional yeah and even
they did it I think even better in
previous pixels but it's literally
because it feels like it's part of the
the well the in the pixel 6 it was two
different components which is what made
it look like something they just went to
together yeah but when they got it all
as one piece it looks so like it looks
like a good design it looks like this is
the way it was supposed to be one single
piece of aluminium yeah and like it's
one big frame and I like that and I feel
like this is backwards this new render
if you're on the video version you can
see this new render it looks like again
it's back to something bolted onto the
back of a flat phone yeah which is I
think that's why I don't like for audio
listeners if you've ever seen a xiaomi
mi band uh the Mi band is like this
little mod ual that gets put in this
little rubber band that you put around
your your wrist it looks like the
display of a xiaomi mi band that's just
bolted to the back of a phone oh yeah
maybe we should describe it was
something it looks like Among Us it
looks like Among Us that's it that's the
end of the story okay the last one was
like a Robocop Among Us collab this one
they've just committed to the bit yeah
it does have a giant camera they're
definitely still going for the visor
Vibe of it stretching across the whole
back of the screen but just imagine it's
in an oval instead of rolling over onto
the side rails now big pill yeah big
very but like very cut and dry it's not
rolling into the back it is a very hard
90° angle from the camera bump popping
amount of dust that's going to collect
around this ring is crazy they were like
we don't have enough dust on the top and
the bottom let's put it on the sides too
crazy yeah so otherwise it's an iPhone
um hope why is 2024 the year where
everyone is making the I like this flat
rails rule I'm happy they did they I I
agree like I like the feeling of flat
rails it's just it's kind of weird that
they're all so similar I guess I think
it's less weird that like they are
similar to The Apple thing and just
weird that Samsung and Google seems to
be doing this in the same year yeah like
people like phones are making the switch
all at the same time which feels and
it's not just them it's other
manufacturers too are there as well yeah
yeah yeah
but I think that the pixel 8 Pro was the
best looking pixel since the pixel 6
since they big redesign like by far it
looks the most like put together and
like single like pieced Alum body I'm
going a little bit back against the
rails best pixel pixel 2 pixel I said
sense pixel six since the new okay the
new eight by far looks the best yeah but
I have a thing for the the six visor
even though it was clearly not as well
integrated as the current one yeah I
think it's cuz it's glass instead of
metal oh cuz the whole thing is glass
and doesn't have the like cutouts inside
of actually this though kind of almost
feels that Vibe cuz all the cameras are
in One Singular piece of glass where the
7 Pro is two openings right it's like an
oval and a circle so this is like one
large oval and then you just have the
Flash and IR sensor on the like the what
is that the thermometer the thermometer
so is this still the thermometer in this
possibly nice possibly Google pixel 9
Pro thermometer confirmed well I don't
know if
that's that's it could be anything it
could be laser auto focus this is
also away and very much don't worry
it'll be on sale in like two two weeks
you'll like find it in a Best Buy true
flat rails flat screen anyway this is
super early uh we will confirm over the
next 9 months whether or not this is
correct and get back to you on that I'm
way more excited for tensor to get
better than for the design of the phone
well that's going to take two more
Generations before they switch to
tsmc all right let's get to our second
to last headline in top of the snake
draft could be
anything Marquez just turned around and
looked directly at me while pulling out
this thing and it was mildly
threatening it
says s24 uploads HDR photos oh no what
do you mean oh no
okay oh I didn't put the have you ever
been on
Instagram I have and then your eyes get
burned to Smither because somebody
uploaded a iPhone video that has hdr on
it photos you're just scrolling late at
night you're under your covers you're
minimum brightness and then bam that's
exactly how it feels that's the
difference just in audio is exactly how
it feels to your eyes yeah that's that's
a thing So currently uh before the s24
there was no HDR photo support on
Instagram only HDR video and that was
really only enabled through iPhones I
believe yeah but now with pixel Ultra
HDR and because pixel Ultra HDR is like
a standard and Samsung's like kind of
making it's like based on the standard
these are basically Ultra hdr photos and
now Instagram's supporting it um so now
you can be ambushed by photos yeah while
you're in low brightness mode just not
this is a hot take possibly but like I
don't don't think it's a good experience
to be ambiently scrolling at one
brightness and then not being able to
control when everything just gets
suddenly brighter it is weird and I
agree and I think we probably need to
have some sort of way for the for the
for the phone to tell if you're in low
brightness mode don't show me the huge
dynamic range of this HDR photo show me
an SDR version I think it should by
default show SDR and then there should
be a view HDR button
why have I never exp would ever press
but but You' never you've never
experienced this no like you've never
been in like super dim Lighting in on
your phone and then got into a video
that just blasts the brightness I don't
think so but it's not even it's not even
necessarily blasting the brightness so
so HDR like Ultra hdr on Pixel it's just
adding an additional tone map to the
jpeg to the the the jpeg um because
jpegs usually get rid of a lot of the
luminance data so or sorry the
chrominance data and then they add this
like tone map on top so it's the same
JPEG but with but with a luminance map
just like slapped on top and so so some
parts of it are super bright the
highlights and stuff are just way
brighter than usual okay if you okay
look I guess I've just never had like a
or maybe I just don't scroll in the dark
as this is an HDR video can you see how
like the rest of the UI looks just kind
of like gray out and darker yeah I can
see it actually the UI is not gray out
and darker but the video is just way
brighter okay there is small team okay
you got to give cut cleaner than you
think this is their fault this is
Google's fault this is this is Apple's
fault I just for some reason they've
just decided that Ultra HDR is something
that people want even Adobe is uh you
can now edit Ultra HDR photos in
Lightroom and Photoshop and it's like I
don't want to have to edit an image for
SDR and HDR like it's going to double my
my editing time if I have to make sure
that it looks good in both modes yeah
and there was nothing wrong with SDR in
the first place SDR is better it's not
sometimes this is actually a lot of this
talk is the same reason why I don't we
don't upload HDR videos to YouTube is
because it only looks good if the person
watching it is ready for HDR is watching
High brightness HDR content has an HDR
monitor and like watches it in HDR in a
lot of the other situations that file
will look worse if they don't have the
right monitor or if they aren't in an
HDR ready environment or if they're in a
dim environment whatever just looks
worse yeah so I just don't bother with
it yet I try to look make really good
looking SDR content that is more
compatible everywhere yeah and I was
just saying this the same thing on in
your gallery you can be swiping through
a bunch of SDR content and then swipe
over to an HDR video and the screen just
goes bam like that's you're here we are
HDR again that that experience of going
back and forth we kind of just have to
get to a point where HDR is everything
all the time but it won't be for so but
if we're not there it's always going to
be back and forth and that's tough yeah
dedicated cameras are not going to
there's a there's a button now in
Lightroom in Photoshop that transforms
SDR photos into hdr photos um but I
don't like it that seems tough so yeah
it's it's a processing thing it can just
it just like takes highlight details and
like bright them up and adds a tone map
on top but I don't I don't know I don't
know personally I'm just like I don't
want to edit for two different types of
displays all the time so I'm a little
old school SDR guy I guess yeah yeah get
with the times I
personally I don't know I think these
companies are just like we have way
brighter OLED displays now we should
take advantage of them and develop new
technology that can take advantage of it
but I'm like it's fun it feels buzzwordy
like it's like a feature thing at this
point and what are we going to do with
all these knits yeah yeah we got all
these extra knits what are we
do well now they know Instagram at hdr
photos yeah so only on Galaxy right now
is that true okay yeah well only
uploaded from Galaxy but they will
assault your eyes everywhere nice I love
it you all get to reap the benefits I
love it all right all right we should
take a quick break we've got another
headline in the Hat but before we get to
that headline and the break trivia
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trivia
all right so the world of storage
mediums is a world full of acronyms
we're familiar with the hits we know Ram
oh yeah know random access memories that
was an album and an act it is well
played it's a good we know ROM random
nope but what is ROM read only that's
what what is the acronym for a storage
that can be written a single time Time
by a user and cannot be Rewritten ever
again oh pen and paper a Scantron is an
example of this kind of memory actually
I think I know this perhaps by guessing
there's an acronym there is an acronym
there's an acronym for everything
naturally there's an neon for David just
best resolution audio video integrated
architecture yikes thanks
Sony oh Sony um all right wow you know
about this trivia question how it just
raised the energy in the room so
high we all started thinking just like
the people I just gave up immediately
yeah acronyms are a lot of thinking I
don't know this is a this is a good one
everyone everyone washing the dishes
just like stopped washing wait here's a
question do we need to know just the
acronym or do we need to know what it
stands for uh I was looking for the
acronym but why don't we throw a bonus
point in there you bonus point no I'm
just more okay can we know how many
letters the acronym is so some of us can
get maybe if some of people don't know
what it is they can just
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guess I think that's fair
no it's clear no one knows what it
is okay we'll be right back it'll be a
learning experience we'll be we'll be
back all right welcome back to the snake
draft snake draft I was the last one to
go but that means I go again because
it's because it's the snake draft top of
the oh you're right cuz
it's it's like a snake that was bad okay
all right we got two headlines left this
one oh this one says
rollsroyce spec we're being pretty
creative with the term headline by we're
just writing down things we like on a
piece of headline this one's not a
headline
chocolate no we reviewed the Rolls-Royce
the electric Rolls-Royce and that thing
is insane can we all go around and say
favorite part about it yes okay perfect
can I start wait let's just let me just
start with the fundamentals of what it
is okay so it's the Rolls-Royce Spectre
uh if you haven't heard of the
Rolls-Royce Spectre picture of
Rolls-Royce a gigantic twodo coupe with
a back seat it is fully electric it gets
260 Mi of range it's got about 550
horsepower and 600 PB feet of torque it
has all of the Rolls-Royce stuff the
stars in the ceiling the umbrella in the
door and it's $400,000
go you said gigantic Coupe that is
people need to understand that because
yes it is a coupe but that thing is hum
it's also really weird and awkward cuz
you the doors open backwards suicide
doors yeah they're suicide doors they
open like and then you have to like
climb into the back if you're in the
back seat but it's a fulls siiz back
seat it's big yeah so it's weird it's
like it's like usually those back seats
are very cramped but it's not for
context yeah the rivan r1t is 217 in
long that is a pickup truck with a 4ot
bed yeah the Rolls-Royce Spectre is 26
in long so it's basically the same size
as a pickup truck Jesus from front to
back okay wow so now that the
fundamentals are out of the way it's
electric it's a luxury sedan Coupe sorry
what did you like about it I liked that
we went to wa in it same you can put the
photo in there Adam um that about it
that was all you liked about it okay I
like okay there were LED was purple it
was purple that was cool in on the
interior there's these like little
twinkling LEDs that are all over it even
though that probably cost them like 15
cents it was still very pretty I hear
it's pretty pricey the LEDs yeah I think
everything in that car is pretty pricey
I mean they're nice yeah they're nice
they were high refresh rate LEDs too
because they didn't flicker with video
which is important the details are they
LEDs or are they H is this a dumb
question or they ftic I don't think they
were that's an interesting point but a
ftic would still have an LED in the back
what I thought they could have been is
sometimes people led folk nowadays will
put a phosphor layer on inside of the
bulb so that the El or the photons
flying off the LED excite this phosphor
layer and produce a more natural oh glow
don't know if they did that but it was I
don't think they did that I don't think
they did either but the thought crossed
my brain that's great I think the um the
heating of the seats was better than the
heating of any other seat that I have
heated before nice yeah that's actually
a really good feature for a luxury
vehicle it felt nice yeah okay what did
you like what you like about it I don't
know if the carpet is the correct term
for it the it's like 2 in thick plush
like I felt so bad getting in the from
the snow getting yeah there's snow and
salt and I know if you feel the same way
after hearing Lamb's W it was Lamb's W
knew I was like this feels like some
animal kind of fur yeah I feel worse
about it but wor it was so soft made no
sense of being the place where I put my
feet after walking in the snow although
I'm sure they weren't happy that we were
all walking in the snow and then going
into it um but yeah it was way too plush
to just be the cars
flooring it was pretty solid front and
back had that c yeah so you like the
Lambs wo mhm what did you like I guess
so you use the word soft to describe
that carpet I use the word soft to
describe everything about that car okay
the suspension was very soft steering
was very soft but most interestingly the
throttle response and braking are very
very glow gradual and soft so in uh in
your model 3 if you stamp the
accelerator pedal it'll throw your head
back and you'll get like a jolt forward
if you stamp the accelerator pedal in
this car it will flow forward it will
not throw your head back and the
regenerative braking which is one pedal
braking as well when you let your foot
off the the accelerator and it starts to
slow down it does this really smooth
sound smooth stop to zero yeah that
would be nice I did notice when we were
driving on it the New Jersey roads um
they should you know address that after
the gym stuff but the New Jersey roads
are notoriously poth holy and very bumpy
it did kind of feel like we were just
drifting you know on 23in Wheels it made
you feel like you're on a cloud I don't
know the difference but I would say very
impressive when you said it slows up and
slows down you said punch the
accelerator won't shoot you forward I
thought you would be like slam the
brakes nice smooth
Stu nice smooth right into the back of
that truck in traffic no you can break
hard you can break hard but I I like the
regenerator braking was super smooth
it's also the quietest car I think more
regenerative breaking should be smooth
like I'm still very surprised when like
you even have the opportunity to let go
and just slam forward if you're not used
to it I mean there's levels of smooth
but this one was extremely especially in
the last couple of miles an hour like
you know how you'll get to zero and sort
of like jolt back this one never did
that it would just slow down to zero and
you just that's nice arrive I love one
pedal driving because your muscle memory
like eventually knows how far you need
to just let off the accelerator before
you'll just like stop right at the stop
light it's a skill it's so fun to just
guess every time and you're always
correct it's great yeah you guys wrote
in it I liked that the vents for the air
conditioning uh were made out of either
like a Chrome plated brass or maybe some
sort of like polished tin but it's this
nice semi heavy metal that when you
flick it goes ding like
aamp felt fancy felt really fancy really
nice mhm my favorite thing and I
couldn't figure out if I was going crazy
or not until I got back and Googled the
hell out of it and I'm not going crazy
mhm the stars on the roof occasionally
they have a shooting star yes what the
whole time we were driving in it I was
just staring at it like what I know I
saw a shooting star I know I and I it's
a shooting star yeah didn't know Adam
and I went we were helping miles shoot
something in it and at one point Adam
just goes why we were still parked was
that a shooting star and we were like
what and he's like I can't I can't prove
if that was real or not it's like when
you see a meteor in real life and you're
like trust me it happened wa I didn't
know that that's awesome did you guys
know you can get uh stars on the doors
as well there was stars on the doors in
that one it was only 13,000 extra
dollars to get them
there how good is that I mean you're
losing money if you the paint how much
was the paint 10 grand the paint was
also 13 Grand oh my God sorry just the
purple part of the paint the satin
silver in the middle was 10 grand more
on top of that so the purple and the
satin together was 23 Grand more or less
yeah you could get a Hyundai lantro for
that price Marquez a you know that's
probably the second time you were
powered by a Rolls-Royce power plant in
the past few weeks what do you mean
because Rolls-Royce also makes the Trent
engine option on the Boeing Triple 7
that you often find yourself going to
the West Coast on that's a fantastic
point but I will push back the
Rolls-Royce Spectre is actually powered
by essentially the BMW i7s electric
power train so so rollsroyce makes well
actually actually the BMW i7s power
train is powered by the Model T no no
but actually though it's a it's the i7
has a pretty solid size battery and the
dual motor setup and all but the
Rolls-Royce is just putting a totally
different chassis and body and
suspension on top of that and it's very
Rolls-Royce and very quiet and luxury
and it's got this decoupled anti-
rollbar Tech where like one wheel at a
time goes through potholes and you never
feel anything and it's awesome but it's
an i7 under it only only weighs 6,500
lbow until this car has the CES Hyundai
IC 5 sideways crab uh tires I don't want
it all
right that's but when it and when I have
$400,000 yeah but when it does yeah yeah
which I don't yeah sorry it was 400
Grand starting we had like about 120
Grand of options so it was like 500
something you had three of my Foresters
as options options we had an i seven of
options I got here a little late that
day and there was only one spot left
right next to the Rolls-Royce and I had
to reverse into it that was terrifying I
just scraped the concrete wall on the
other side to make sure he didn't hit
the that's hilarious okay we have one
more headline don't we have one more
headline in the one more hat okay I'm
also pretty sure it's a headline in
quotes it's a mini headline wait is it
mine or is yours it's yours yours oh cuz
snake it's just not a headline it's just
a thing we want to talk about this says
the OnePlus 12 and 12r so some may know
that the one 122r just launched very
recently that's it right there he I've
seen that that's the 12 yep that's not
the 11
yeah just checking just checking yeah no
I I we've been testing so I've had this
phone for a week longer than I've had
the s24 ultra and we've also had the fex
7 uh Ultra and I've just haven't gotten
enough time to test all of them but I
want to at least mention this phone and
talk about it briefly M really good
phone um and I think a lot of people
will like it when I reviewed the OnePlus
11 a lot of
my my uh what's the word sentiment yes
was you basically said it I was just I
couldn't remember second letter a lot of
the sentiment was very much like OnePlus
is back they kind of straight a little
bit they got rid of the alert slider the
software went kind of sideways the
hassleblad thing was gone they brought
it all back and so OnePlus 11 was a
solid comeback and a good phone for them
this is very much an upgraded with a lot
of 2024 special version of that phone
yeah it's got a better telephoto it's
got the Snapdragon 8 gen 3 and it's got
that super bright like 25 2600 nits OLED
that we're seeing so often right so
those things like really bring it into
2024 and it's still got all the rest of
the stuff it's still got the software
the alert slider the hassleblad camera
all that good stuff that you expect from
the OnePlus phone yeah so it's a really
good phone I haven't made a whole review
of it because that's kind of where my
observations end and it didn't feel like
it was a whole bunch I have a lot to say
about a different phone we're reviewing
right now so that'll be a video but I
wanted to bring this out and at least
have that in the Hat cuz OnePlus 12 is a
good phone it is $800 which is a pretty
good price for a like that um they did
sort of they they are still sort of
using the Oppo ux UI which I don't love
and they merged Like Oxygen OS to be
what was the col so they merged them
together they originally just changed it
to be called color OSS a lot of people
got upset and then what they kind of
ended up doing was just on OnePlus
phones calling it oxygen OS but not
changing the software at all just so
it's just color just gaslighting yes I
think they were like our community will
shut up if we just call it oxygen OS
again which if you remember oxygen OS
only exists because of the Cyanogen
debacle which you should go watch our
episode on Cyanogen mod and the death of
the Android ROM uh
your but uh yeah so I don't know someone
on Twitter put up a comparison between
oxygen OS and the color OSS that's on it
cuz they flashed an old oxygen OS on to
it and I just feel like old OnePlus
oxygen OS had a much more cohesive like
brand identity a lot of the app and I
know that at the end of the day a lot of
this literally comes down to the app
icons and like the way that the overlay
of the Quick Settings menu looks and you
know it's not that a deal the quick
quick settings menu is a big thing I
want you to sorry don't interrupt I want
you to feel the haptics hold this phone
and hit that clear button and just feel
the haptics
is that good or bad I don't use I don't
use any Optics wait a minute it's like a
Oh I thought you were listening to dlor
Swift sorry no it was like a triple tap
yeah it was it like can I how do I I'll
load up another notification sorry it
felt like it like shook up the phone
yeah shimmy little shimmy really
Shimmy's up the phone it was pretty sick
I will say looking at the phone from
this angle the one thing I noticed is
that it does not look like an
iPhone it was you said it got all the
2024 new things other than flat edges a
great point Y it did not flatten the
edges um okay here so hit the clear
notification button
okay oh right it's like very precise
like I love that yeah and I felt it like
it felt like it was in three distinct
zones like a cat
purring I honestly you could make ASMR
out of good haptics on a smartphone
that's true we should
is it ASMR if you're feeling it and not
hearing it I'm sure there's another
acronym do any of us know what ASMR
means yes audio
sensory response it's like a feeling you
get from yeah it's scratching your brain
so the 12r is also coming out that is
$500 comes with uh last year's
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 instead of the Gen 3
um so it's a Prett I mean that's a very
good price it's a good deal you know wow
so there you go
I wish we got the green one the green
one looks the green one looks amazing
green marble type of I never thought I
would live in a world where Marquez sees
the Black version of something and say I
wish we had the Green version you were
very anti- green for a while I feel like
you're warming up to it so it's not the
green that's fascinating to me it's the
marbley pattern on the one that happens
to be green right if there was a marbley
pattern on this I'd be into it I like
green yeah it's like a camo type of
thing I do like the small little details
like the Ring of the camera module has
this little King that kind of looks like
a lens I like that and it has a little
hust blood logo next to it there so if
you have seen the Oppo Find X7 Ultra it
has many many of the same features of
the X7 Ultra just with a little bit
different body style but a lot of things
are very similar the extremely bright
display all of that kind of stuff um
yeah Optical so that's a thing yeah so
there's the review there you go I was
just going to say marz I'm putting you
on spot are we getting a review of this
thing or no I don't unless I mean we are
about to be spoiler pretty busy so it's
it's it's not likely that we'll be able
to get to everything we want to just
because of how busy we're about to get
but if if you must know I do think this
is a good phone like the purpose of the
review is for people to be able to
decide if it's good or if it's not good
This falls under good phone which I
think is a really good place to just be
happy that's a good phone so yeah
OnePlus 12 good looks cool good luck
good lucks good luck I was like wow yeah
this is great good luck everybody good
luck okay that's it for our headlines
which means we can the hat is empty the
hat is empty and we can take out the
whiteboards cuz it's time for trivia
trivia
dude trivia dude so quick update on the
score Marquez with 21 Andrew with 16
David with 20 oh I got to keep you on
your toes first question who carried the
one someone in my studio video commented
just carry the one and I was like come
on man give me just this they were like
carry the one gang and I was like it's a
movement I feel like that's just like a
secret code that shows that you listen
away for It's Kind like the thing or the
the Narwhal eats waffles at breakfast or
whatever it was I thought it was like
the symbol on your head no there was
like there was this in the early days of
Reddit there was like a secret phrase
that you would say to people in public
to see if they were redditors oh that's
and now you just lie about using Reddit
instead God Inc I think if I remember
correctly it's when does the narwhal
bacon yeah at midnight and then everyone
around you looks at you and goes like
this is the last time we're
inviting what did he just say what did
you say found the reditor secet anyway
first question yeah yeah usb OTG what
does the OTG stand
for not to be confused with ODB
legendary
rapper David don't look so
confused I always look
confused I may or may not have pressed
the button twice so it's a little longer
now don't worry about
it press it again no no
idea I'm so wrong me too and flip them
and read I'm hoping I got the one can't
even think of it I lost gu okay yours
looks like the digital rain from The
Matrix hear me out I wrote down all the
ones I think I know usbg USB is
universal serial bus that's correct does
he get a point for each you don't get a
point for that
I'm waiting for the OTG stands for
something transfer
something nope Universal I just wrot
over the over the over the what goo over
the hge Over the Hedge claimed 2007
Thriller um I put over the
Gateway no I both it over the the is
probably not I also wrote over but I
don't write that cuz David incepted you
with Over the Garden Wall that's true
it's actually on the go oh I knew that
USB on the go I knew that yeah get any
you guys both got
the okay that's true do we get a no no
we clarified that said no already
wouldn't you guys feel stupid if I had
given you a point for the no I would
take
it why what is USB on the go so it was
the okay I think it was like the first
version of USB that was the the first
like additional version of USB that was
announced after the original USB
protocol right that I don't know but
according to Wikipedia it was a
specification first used in late 2001
that allows USB devices such as tablets
or smartphones to also act as a host
yeah allowing other USB devices such as
flash drives digital cameras keyboard to
be attached to them yes okay this is a
big thing because like transfer devices
at the time like the iPod and that kind
of stuff they were like well these are
just portable computers so like why
don't we just allow you to store things
on on portable devices as opposed to
like only your computer at home can
store your stuff why don't we allow your
like iPod or I don't know whatever MP3
player device you have to just like have
stuff on it so you can bring it to
another computer and be the host of it
move it to that okay question number two
the world of storage mediums is a world
full of acronyms we're familiar with the
hits ROM and RAM but what is the acronym
for storage that once it is written by a
user cannot be
[Music]
Rewritten I got
this
whoa that's a sharp heel turn from the
confidence where you were like I
definitely don't got this
USB Over the
Hedge let's see what you
got all right so mine is s t o i i WB a
u c n b r w so storage that on is oh my
god wow Andrew we're going to discuss
that answer later storage that written W
right only memory so close but wrong I
wrote ROM read only memory also very
close it sounds like you're just saying
that in baby talk I I'm going to zoom in
on David right now his face cuz I want
you guys to see his reaction when Ellis
tells him what it is stop the answer is
worm write once read
many right
once awes unfortunate that's that's I'm
so glad that we didn't get that right
and got that moment wait guys that's
better than getting it right I markers
down I like how much of a space there is
here for you but it's the wrong
space wow there is um read many so there
is a running joke in the tech community
that is wom write only memory because
the idea that you could write unreadable
memory sort of like like is it even
memory at that point you know true well
that's a great point I didn't even think
of that no but it is I think there's
actually a Wikipedia page that is right
only memory and then in parenthesis
joke nice it's kind of like the um over
Aven carrier yeah it's kind of like over
Aven carrier the request for comment for
IP over Aven
car car wow W that was we womo womo
when's the last time we got a trivia
question
right Andrew you you that's what I was
asking yeah oh my god well you know I
forgot about that it's not about the
questions you get right it's about The
Learning Experience the friends you make
along the way I I want to ask a question
do I get an addition a bonus point
because when I turn it upside down it
says the same thing let's discuss no the
space is in a different
spot
no okay and with that we'll wrap up way
for for the week thanks for uh joining
us for headlines in a hat if you have
any other uh head lines you'd like us to
react to drop them in the comments maybe
we'll put them in a hat next week or
maybe we'll just be incredibly busy and
have other things to talk about we'll
see we'll see one or the other might
happen but in either case uh thanks for
subscribing and for watching and we'll
catch you guys in the next one peace
bye W form is produced by Adam Molina
and Ellis Ren we're partner with the VOX
media podcast Network and our interactor
music was created by vain
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[Music]
I really want to get a magic K showell
that I can
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