[FULL] Pengamat Politik Blak-blakan soal Usulan Purnawirawan TNI agar Wapres Gibran Dicopot

Summary

The speaker discusses the political phenomenon of calls for the resignation of high-ranking leaders, including vice presidents, as part of typical political protests. They highlight historical examples of public dissent against sitting presidents in Indonesia and the recent demand by some retired military officers for the vice president to be removed due to concerns over the process of the presidential election. The speaker emphasizes the complexity of removing a vice president, noting constitutional and legal processes that make such a move difficult, particularly the role of the parliament and the Constitutional Court in this matter.

Takeaways

• 😀 Calls to remove the Vice President are part of a common political phenomenon where public dissatisfaction with leadership prompts such demands.
• 😀 These types of protests and demands have been common throughout Indonesian history, even under previous presidents like Jokowi, SP, Megawati, Gus Dur, and Habibie.
• 😀 The demands to remove the Vice President can be seen as an expression of political frustration and dissatisfaction, particularly when the government is perceived as not aligning with public interests.
• 😀 The issue with the current calls to remove the Vice President is linked to a decision by the Constitutional Court regarding age requirements for presidential and vice-presidential candidates.
• 😀 Retired military officers (purnawirawan) have voiced their concerns about the legality of the Vice President’s candidacy and his eligibility in light of the Constitutional Court's decision.
• 😀 The protests surrounding the Vice President’s position are not new; similar concerns have existed for a long time, especially regarding political legitimacy and constitutional requirements.
• 😀 The current political climate makes this demand more visible, particularly because Gibran is no longer just the son of the president but now occupies a distinct position as Vice President.
• 😀 Proposals to remove the Vice President are often seen as an extraparlimentary political narrative, which may not have a significant impact on the current political situation.
• 😀 Removing the Vice President is a complex legal and political process, requiring a long path through Parliament and the MPR (People’s Consultative Assembly), which includes consultations with the Constitutional Court.
• 😀 The legal process for removing the Vice President involves specific conditions such as constitutional violations, corruption, or other serious offenses, which currently do not apply to the current Vice President.

Q & A

What is the main subject of the script?

The script discusses the political phenomenon of certain groups or individuals demanding the resignation of the Vice President in Indonesia, exploring historical context, legal frameworks, and political dynamics surrounding such demands.

Why do some groups, like the retired military officers, want the Vice President to be removed?

The retired military officers, or 'purnawirawan', argue that the nomination of the Vice President, especially in relation to the 2024 Presidential Election, did not adhere to proper procedural and moral standards, particularly in light of the Constitutional Court's ruling regarding the age requirements for presidential and vice-presidential candidates.

How does the political protest against the Vice President reflect a larger democratic sentiment in Indonesia?

The demand for the resignation of the Vice President is a part of the broader political expression and protests seen throughout Indonesia's democratic history, where activists, students, and groups have historically called for the resignation of sitting Presidents in protest against perceived mismanagement or undemocratic actions.

What role does the Constitutional Court (MK) play in these demands?

The Constitutional Court's ruling on the requirements for presidential and vice-presidential candidates is a central issue, with some groups believing that the court's decision was flawed. These groups see the ruling as morally and procedurally incorrect, leading to calls for political action, such as the resignation of the Vice President.

Why is this issue of Vice Presidential resignation being raised again now?

The demand for the Vice President's resignation is being raised again partly because Gibran, the Vice President, no longer holds the strong political position of being the President's son. As Vice President, his political influence is seen as weaker, which makes him a target for such political actions.

What is meant by 'extra-parliamentary politics' in the context of this script?

'Extra-parliamentary politics' refers to political actions and demands that take place outside the formal legislative processes, such as public protests or petitions. In this case, the calls for the Vice President’s resignation reflect a form of extra-parliamentary pressure rather than formal parliamentary procedures.

What legal process is required to remove a Vice President in Indonesia?

To remove the Vice President, a legal and constitutional process is followed. The proposal must come from the Indonesian Parliament (DPR), which then requests the Constitutional Court's opinion. If the Constitutional Court approves, the matter is brought before the People's Consultative Assembly (MPR). This process ensures that removal is not an easy or quick decision.

What does the script say about the difficulty of removing a Vice President?

The script highlights the difficulty of removing a Vice President, noting that it is not a simple process. There must be serious constitutional violations, involvement in corruption, or other significant transgressions for such a move to be considered, and the process involves multiple legal steps, including approval from the Constitutional Court and Parliament.

How does the script address the procedural aspects of political change?

The script emphasizes that any proposal to remove the Vice President must go through a lengthy and complicated constitutional procedure, involving the Parliament and Constitutional Court, before it can be formally addressed by the MPR. This highlights the complexity and the checks and balances in Indonesia's political system.

Why might there be a belief that the Constitutional Court's decision regarding the Vice President's position was wrong?

Some believe that the Constitutional Court's decision regarding the age requirements for presidential and vice-presidential candidates was flawed, as they feel it violated established legal procedures or moral standards. This belief has fueled the calls for the Vice President’s resignation, with some groups arguing the decision is legally and ethically questionable.