3D-Printed Saddles | In Search of Comfort and Performance

In The Know Cycling
19 Dec 202316:35

Summary

TLDR本视频探讨了3D打印自行车座垫是否能为骑手提供更好的舒适度和性能。Steve从In Theos Cycling介绍了他和其他测试者对不同品牌3D打印座垫的体验,包括Physique、Specialized和Pedla。他们发现,虽然3D打印座垫在某些情况下提供了额外的舒适度,但并非所有座垫都适合每个人。视频强调了定制化3D打印座垫如Pedla Joy Seat的潜力,以及整体自行车适配的重要性。

Takeaways

  • 🚴‍♂️ 3D打印的自行车鞍座可能为个人独特的解剖结构提供更好的舒适度和性能。
  • 🔍 由于每个人的解剖结构和骑行姿势不同,市面上有各种形状、大小和设计的鞍座供骑手选择。
  • 🛠️ 专业的自行车店和装配工不会只推荐一种鞍座,而是会分析和调整自行车和鞍座的配合,让骑手试骑多个鞍座以找到最适合自己的。
  • 🤔 大多数测试的3D打印鞍座并没有实现为每个人提供定制化舒适度的潜力。
  • 💺 3D打印鞍座使用聚合物材料,通过3D打印机根据独特规格创建,有潜力为骑手提供定制化的合适鞍座。
  • 👥 视频作者Steve和不同解剖结构及骑行档案的测试者们一起测试了多种3D打印鞍座,以分享他们的体验并评估其价值。
  • 💰 测试的3D打印鞍座价格范围从260美元到490美元不等,取决于所用的壳体和导轨材料以及是否定制。
  • 📏 定制的3D打印鞍座,如Pedla Joy座,可以根据骑手的特定资料(如坐骨印模、灵活性、骑行风格、体重、身高、髋围和大腿围等)进行配置。
  • 🚲 测试结果显示,即使是同一模型的3D打印鞍座,也不一定在所有情况下都比泡沫鞍座提供更大的舒适度改善。
  • 🔄 为了找到最适合自己的鞍座,骑手需要像测试泡沫鞍座一样,测试多种3D打印鞍座。
  • 🔄 定制的3D打印鞍座显示出改善舒适度和性能的潜力,尤其是对于长时间骑行或特定骑行风格的骑手。

Q & A

  • 3D打印的自行车鞍座是否能够提供更好的舒适度和性能?

    -视频提到,3D打印的鞍座有潜力提供定制的舒适度,但并非所有测试的3D打印鞍座都能实现这一潜力。一些鞍座可以提供额外的舒适度和性能改善,但并非唯一解决方案。

  • 为什么市面上有如此多不同类型的自行车鞍座?

    -因为每个人的解剖结构、骑行姿势和需求都不同,所以市面上有各种形状、长度、宽度、曲率、垫密度、切口或凹陷、壳体和轨道的鞍座,以适应不同骑手的需求。

  • 为什么Steve不推荐只测试一种鞍座?

    -Steve认为,由于每个人的解剖结构和骑行姿势都不同,测试鞍座并得出哪种鞍座最好的结论可能只适用于测试者本人,而不是所有骑行者。

  • 3D打印鞍座的定制潜力是什么?

    -3D打印鞍座的定制潜力在于能够根据个人的解剖结构和骑行习惯,创建一个独特规格的鞍座,以适应个人的独特需求。

  • Steve和他的团队测试了哪些品牌的3D打印鞍座?

    -Steve和他的团队测试了Physique品牌的两款自适应鞍座、Specialized品牌的两款Mirror鞍座,以及Pedla品牌的Joy鞍座。

  • 测试者Miles对3D打印的Antaris鞍座有何感受?

    -Miles发现3D打印的Antaris鞍座在长途骑行中仅比他的泡沫Anaris鞍座稍微舒适一些。

  • 测试者Nate对Physique Vento Argo自适应鞍座有何体验?

    -Nate没有感觉到Physique Vento Argo自适应鞍座与他通常使用的泡沫鞍座相比有任何变革性的骑行体验提升。

  • Steve在测试3D打印的Roman鞍座时有何发现?

    -Steve在室内训练自行车上测试3D打印的Roman鞍座时,立即感觉到比泡沫Roman鞍座更多的舒适度,但在道路上则没有同样的舒适度。

  • Dean在寻找3D打印鞍座时遇到了什么问题?

    -Dean在寻找3D打印鞍座时,试图找到一种能够缓解长时间骑行时坐骨疼痛的鞍座,但他测试的几种3D打印鞍座都没有解决这个问题。

  • 定制的3D打印鞍座如何改善舒适度和性能?

    -定制的3D打印鞍座,如Pedla Joy鞍座,是根据骑手的具体轮廓定制的,可以提供更好的舒适度和性能,特别是对于长时间骑行或特定骑行风格的骑手。

  • 为什么3D打印鞍座的表面特性可能会影响性能?

    -3D打印鞍座的表面特性,如暴露的3D打印格子,可能会提供过多的抓地力,限制骑手在鞍座上的滑动或滑动,这对于需要在骑行中频繁移动位置的骑手可能会影响性能。

  • Steve对于3D打印鞍座的最终看法是什么?

    -Steve认为,如果你还没有找到适合自己舒适度和性能需求的标准泡沫或凝胶鞍座,那么定制的3D打印鞍座可能是值得考虑的选择。

  • 为什么Steve强调整体自行车适配的重要性?

    -Steve强调,鞍座只是整体自行车适配的一部分,其他部分如车架几何、座杆大小和位置、车把、曲柄和踏板等也非常重要,只有整体适配得当,才能找到真正的舒适度。

  • 测试者Miles在更换3D打印鞍座时需要做哪些调整?

    -Miles在更换3D打印的Physique Antaris鞍座时,由于鞍座的轨高较高,他不得不将座杆降低6或7毫米,并经过三四趟骑行后才确定位置。

  • Steve提到的Specialized Power Expert Mirror鞍座有什么特点?

    -Specialized Power Expert Mirror鞍座在坐骨区域使用了3D打印垫和泡沫垫的组合,并覆盖有一层材料,旨在防止泥土和碎屑进入3D格子,并在坐骨区域创造所谓的吊床效果。

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🚴‍♂️ 3D打印鞍座是否能提供更好的骑行体验?

Steve在Theos Cycling频道探讨了3D打印鞍座是否能够为骑行者提供更好的舒适性和性能。他指出,由于每个人的身体结构和骑行习惯不同,很难通过测试来确定哪种鞍座适合所有人。市面上鞍座种类繁多,包括形状、长度、宽度、曲率、垫密度等各不相同。Steve提到,专业的自行车店和装配工不会只推荐一种鞍座,而是会根据骑行者的具体情况推荐多种选择。3D打印鞍座因其定制化的特点而备受关注,但Steve发现大多数测试的3D打印鞍座并没有完全实现这一潜力。尽管如此,对于那些已经尝试过多种传统泡沫或凝胶鞍座但仍感觉不够舒适的骑行者来说,3D打印鞍座可以提供额外的舒适性和性能提升。Steve和他的团队测试了多个品牌的3D打印鞍座,包括Physique、Specialized和Pedla,并分享了他们的体验和看法。

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💺 3D打印鞍座的舒适度和性能测试

Steve和他的团队测试了不同品牌的3D打印鞍座,并分享了他们的个人体验。他们发现,尽管3D打印鞍座在某些情况下提供了额外的舒适性,但并非所有鞍座都能满足每个人的需求。价格从260美元到490美元不等,取决于鞍座的材料和是否定制。Steve提供了关于测试鞍座的详细信息链接,以及推荐购买的商店链接,这些商店会提供佣金支持频道和网站。测试者包括Miles、Nate和Dean,他们分别测试了Physique Antaris、Specialized Power Mirror Comp和Pedla Joy Seat。他们发现,3D打印鞍座的舒适度因人而异,定制的Pedla Joy Seat为Steve提供了更好的舒适性和性能。然而,Dean在寻找能缓解长时间骑行疼痛的鞍座时,尚未找到合适的3D打印鞍座。Steve强调,找到合适的鞍座需要多次尝试,就像传统的泡沫鞍座一样。

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🔧 3D打印鞍座与整体自行车适配性

Steve讨论了3D打印鞍座与整体自行车适配性的重要性。他指出,鞍座只是舒适骑行体验的一部分,其他因素如车架几何、座管大小和位置、车把、曲柄和踏板也同样重要。Miles在更换3D打印鞍座后需要调整座管高度,而Steve在更换Roman鞍座后也进行了位置调整。Dean在尝试不同的3D打印鞍座时,保持了与他的泡沫鞍座相同的高度和角度,但仍然感到不适。Steve提到,如果没有适当的适配性调整,即使尝试不同的鞍座,也很难找到长时间骑行的舒适感。他还提到,3D打印鞍座表面的纹理可能会影响骑行者在鞍座上的移动,这对于激进骑行者来说可能是个问题。Steve认为,虽然3D打印鞍座有提供舒适性的潜力,但找到合适的鞍座仍然需要个人试错。

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🛒 3D打印鞍座的购买建议

Steve给出了关于3D打印鞍座的购买建议。他提到,如果你还没有找到合适的标准泡沫或凝胶鞍座,那么定制的Pedla Joy Seat可能是一个值得考虑的选择。非定制的3D打印鞍座,如Physique和Specialized品牌,价格略低于Joy Seat,并且可以快速从在线商店或当地自行车店购买。Steve建议,如果你测试了几种鞍座,并找到了明显更适合你的舒适性和性能的鞍座,那么这可能是一个好价值。他鼓励观众在评论区分享他们对鞍座的需求和3D打印鞍座的体验,以帮助其他骑行者做出决策,并希望这也能促使鞍座制造商改进他们的产品。Steve还推荐了一些其他视频,帮助观众决定他们可能想要购买的其他装备。

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Keywords

💡3D打印鞍座

3D打印鞍座是指利用3D打印技术制造的自行车鞍座,这种技术可以提供定制化的解决方案,以适应不同骑行者的身体解剖结构。在视频中,3D打印鞍座被探讨为一种可能提高骑行舒适度和性能的方法。例如,Steve提到了测试多种3D打印鞍座,以确定它们是否能为骑行者提供比传统泡沫或凝胶填充鞍座更好的舒适度和性能。

💡舒适度

舒适度在视频中是一个核心概念,它指的是骑行者在使用自行车鞍座时的舒适体验。Steve和其他测试者尝试了不同类型的鞍座,以找到最适合他们解剖结构和骑行风格的那一款。例如,Dean在寻找一种能够减轻长时间骑行时坐骨疼痛的鞍座,而Steve在砾石自行车上使用3D打印的Roman鞍座时感到更加舒适。

💡性能

性能在视频中指的是自行车鞍座如何影响骑行者的整体骑行体验,包括力量输出和控制。Steve提到,尽管3D打印鞍座的主要卖点是提高舒适度,但它们也应带来更好的性能。例如,Miles和Nate发现3D打印鞍座上的暴露格子表面在激烈骑行时限制了他们在鞍座上的滑动,这可能影响性能。

💡定制化

定制化是指根据个人的特定需求和偏好来设计和制造产品的过程。在视频中,定制化鞍座的概念是通过3D打印技术实现的,它允许根据骑行者的解剖结构和骑行风格来定制鞍座。例如,Pedla Joy鞍座就是根据Steve提供的信息定制的,这包括他的坐骨印、灵活性、骑行风格、体重、身高、髋部和大腿围度、年龄和性别以及平均年度骑行长度。

💡解剖结构

解剖结构在视频中指的是骑行者身体的物理特征,如骨骼结构和肌肉分布,这些特征影响鞍座的选择和舒适度。Steve提到,由于每个人的解剖结构都是独特的,因此需要测试多种鞍座以找到最适合个人的那一款。解剖结构的差异也是市场上存在如此多不同鞍座设计的原因之一。

💡骑行风格

骑行风格指的是骑行者在骑行时的个人偏好和习惯,包括他们如何移动身体以及在鞍座上的坐姿。视频中提到,不同的骑行风格可能需要不同类型的鞍座。例如,Steve在砾石自行车上使用3D打印的Roman鞍座时,由于不需要频繁移动身体,因此感到更加舒适。

💡测试

测试在视频中是评估不同3D打印鞍座性能的过程。Steve和其他测试者通过实际骑行来测试鞍座的舒适度和性能。例如,他们测试了来自Physique、Specialized和Pedla的不同3D打印鞍座,以确定这些鞍座是否比他们之前使用的泡沫鞍座更舒适或性能更好。

💡价格

价格在视频中是一个考虑因素,特别是当比较3D打印鞍座与传统鞍座时。Steve提到,3D打印鞍座的价格范围从260美元到490美元不等,这取决于鞍座的材料和是否定制。价格是消费者在选择鞍座时需要考虑的一个重要因素,尤其是当考虑到定制鞍座可能带来的额外成本时。

💡材料

材料在视频中指的是用于制造鞍座的不同类型,包括3D打印的聚合物材料和传统的泡沫或凝胶材料。Steve和其他测试者比较了这些不同材料的鞍座,以确定哪种材料最适合他们的骑行风格和解剖结构。例如,3D打印鞍座的材料可能提供不同的坐骨区域的弹性和支撑,这影响了舒适度和性能。

💡整体自行车适配

整体自行车适配在视频中是一个重要概念,它指的是自行车的所有组件,包括鞍座、车架几何、座杆、车把、曲柄和踏板,如何协同工作以提供最佳的骑行体验。Steve强调,选择鞍座时不能忽视整体自行车适配,因为鞍座只是拼图中的一部分。例如,Miles在更换3D打印的Physique Antaris鞍座时,需要调整座杆的高度以找到最舒适的位置。

Highlights

3D打印鞍座可能为骑行者提供更好的舒适度和性能。

Steve从in Theos cycling介绍了3D打印鞍座的测试和推荐。

鞍座的选择应考虑个人解剖学、骑行姿势和需求。

市场上有多种鞍座,包括形状、长度、宽度和垫密度等差异。

专业的自行车店和装配工通过分析和调整来推荐合适的鞍座。

3D打印鞍座的定制潜力,但大多数测试产品未完全实现这一潜力。

3D打印鞍座可能为某些骑手提供额外的舒适度和性能提升。

测试了来自Physique、Specialized和Pedla的3D打印鞍座。

测试者包括不同解剖学和骑行档案的骑手。

3D打印鞍座的价格范围从260美元到490美元不等。

定制的3D打印鞍座Pedla Joy Seat根据个人需求进行配置。

测试者Dean寻找能够缓解长时间骑行坐骨疼痛的鞍座。

3D打印鞍座的表面可能影响骑手在鞍座上的移动。

定制3D打印鞍座可能改善舒适度和性能,但并非总是必要。

Dean尽管尝试了多种3D打印鞍座,但仍未找到适合的解决方案。

正确的自行车装配对于找到合适的鞍座至关重要。

3D打印鞍座可能为那些尚未找到合适鞍座的骑手提供价值。

Steve推荐测试多种鞍座以找到最适合个人需求的款式。

Transcripts

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are 3D printed Saddles the way to get

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better comfort for your butt and improve

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performance from your unique Anatomy

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well in this video I'll try to answer

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that question hi I'm Steve from in Theos

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cycling the independent adree and

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sponsor free YouTube channel and website

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for regular cycling enthusiasts like you

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and me who want to save time and money

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choosing the best gear to improve our

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cycling performance and our experience

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one of the most frequent requests I get

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from fellow enthusiasts who spent hours

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and hours riding our bikes each week is

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to review and recommend Saddles but

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knowing how different our anatomies are

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our how different our riding profiles

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and Runing positions are I never really

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see how testing Saddles could conclude

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anything more than which one is best for

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me or someone else doing the testing

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rather than what Saddles are best for a

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group of Road cyclists like those of you

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who read or watch my reviews our

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differences are why there is a dizzying

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number and array of of saddles available

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to Riders they vary in shape length

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width curvature pad density cutouts or

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depressions the shells and rails that

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that they use and the best bike shops

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and Fitters don't recommend just one

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saddle or let you ride off without

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hesitation on a new bike with the saddle

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that came with it instead they'll

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analyze and adjust your bike and saddle

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fit and suggest and allow you to ride

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several Saddles until you find one that

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fits you well and that you like riding

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now Saddles with a pad of polymer

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material created to a unique

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specification by a 3D printer will they

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hold the potential to create a custom

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fit bike seat that's ideally suited to

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all that is unique about you your body

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and your cycling however to cut to the

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chase most of the 3D printed Saddles

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that we tested don't deliver on that

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potential and even when they do such a

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saddle won't be the exclusive answer to

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getting comfort and performance from a

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bike seat or may even be necessary but

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if you've worked on the other pieces of

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your fit puzzle or try to arrange of

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foam Saddles and still aren't as

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comfortable as you'd like well the 3D

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printed Saddles that we tested can give

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you added comfort and depending upon how

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aggressively you ride also give you

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improved performance for this review my

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fellow testers and I with our different

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anatomies and writing profiles while we

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tested a range of 3D printed set

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our goal was to share our experience and

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tell you whether we think there is value

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in switching to one of them from the

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traditional foam or gel padded saddle we

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tested two from physique that they brand

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as adaptive Saddles two from specialized

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that they call mirror and one from a

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company called pedla their saddle is

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called The Joy seat miles a master's

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road gravel cyclocross and mountain bike

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racer he's used the physique Z and

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Terry's foam saddles on all of his drop

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bar bikes for about 5 years now he

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tested the 3D printed version of the

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antaris on his giant Propel Arrow Road

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Bike Nate who leads the a group rides in

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our club well he rides the specialized

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power mirror comp on his specialized s

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Works avenge road bike he tested the

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physique vento Argo adaptive saddle I've

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been riding the specialized Roman saddle

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on my road and gravel bikes and I tested

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the 3D printed Roman on these bikes

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including one that's dedicated to my

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trainer I also tested the custommade 3D

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printed proetta Joy seat on my dedicated

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parley altum road bike now posted they

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configured my joy seats dimensions and

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the pad density by using pictures I sent

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to them of the impression I made or I

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should be more accurate uh the butt

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print my bottom made from sitting in a

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box of foam that they sent to me that

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they call the smiling butt kit they also

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asked about a dozen questions which I

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answered on things like the the bike I

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plan to use the saddle on my flexibility

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my riding style my weight and height and

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my hip and thigh circumference my age

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and gender and my average and Annual

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Ride length our last tester uh who I'll

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call Dean for reasons I'll explain a

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little bit later he's a a dedicated and

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strong bgroup Rider and leader he's been

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using the cell smpp Dynamic saddle that

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came with his canondale Super 6 Evo road

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bike that he bought about 5 years ago

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over about 6 months he's tried four 3D

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printed Saddles the same specialized

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Roman physique onar physique vento that

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we also tested and a specialized s Works

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power mirror in that order now these 3D

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print and Saddles that I've met

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mentioned that we tested range in price

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from

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$260 to

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$490 depending upon the shell and rail

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materials and whether they are

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customized or not you can see all the

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details about the prices the materials

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and the weights of each of the different

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models that we tested in my full review

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on the in Theos cycling website using

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the link in the description box below

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you can also find links to stores I

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vetted and recommend the carry these

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saddles in that description box and when

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you use those links to buy these Saddles

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you'll support this Channel and the in

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the no cycling website because some of

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these stores provide a commission on

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whatever you buy that I'll put towards

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our review and Technology cost this

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allows me to keep these videos ad free

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and sponsor free and free of commercial

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buys and interruptions except at least

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for this one now miles n I well we've

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all been happy with the comfort and the

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performance of our foam Saddles we

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tested these 3D printed models really to

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see if if we could do better and to

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understand this new technology and what

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it was all about Dean on the other hand

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he tested the 3D printed saddles in

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search of one that would alleviate the

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sit bone pain that he gets on rides

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longer than a couple of hours miles Nate

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and I found the 3D print and Saddles we

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tested provided some added comfort in

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certain

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situations the amount of give or

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resistance in the sit bone area they

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vary quite a bit for example the anti

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adaptive and Roman mirror feel far more

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cushiony than the vento Argo

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adaptive the power mirror slots

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somewhere in between them miles found

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the 3D printed antari saddle only

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slightly more comfortable compared to

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his foam anaris on Long rides Nate on

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the other hand didn't feel that there

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was anything transformative about his

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riding experience with the vento Argo

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compared to his regular foam power

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saddle me I began testing the 3D printed

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Roman in the winter on my trainer bike I

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immediately felt added Comfort compared

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to my foam Roman saddle and could do

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comfortably 2hour plus indoor rides when

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my training Plan called for it not that

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I really wanted to but I couldn't get

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the same comfort with the same saddle

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once I got out on the road and despite

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trying a few different saddle positions

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set up by my bike fitter however when I

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moved that same saddle over to my gravel

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bike well it gave me a lot more Comfort

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than I'd ever had with the foam version

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of the Roman The pedla Joy seat I put on

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my road bike in place of the Roman foam

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and mirror models actually seemed as

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firm or perhaps a bit more so than the

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foam Roman models I've been riding for

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Years yet that post said

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Joy seat saddle is more comfortable with

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my bike on the trainer and road than my

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foam Raman that's probably due to the

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fact that it was customized specifically

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for me now Dean hasn't found any of the

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3D printed Saddles he's tried relieves

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the sit bone discomfort he feels from

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his current foam saddle once he extends

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his ride Beyond a couple of hours so

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what might explain our different

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experiences with the comfort of 3D

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Saddles well I think each of them has

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the potential to give added Comfort to

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some riders only a custom configured one

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like the joy seat is made to do that for

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a rider with a specific profile as

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opposed to the others which are made for

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a segment of riders with similar

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profiles from our testing it appears

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that you have to test multiple 3D

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printed Saddles just like you have to

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test multiple foam ones to find one that

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best suits your anatomy and all the

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details of your your writing profile and

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as miles and I found even the same 3D

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printed model of the foam saddle that's

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worked for us for years can but doesn't

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always lead to a big or any comfort

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Improvement in all situations now my

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bike fitter he sells a range of sadle

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Brands and models including the ones

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that we tested he told me he would

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ideally like to see a 3D printer in his

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store or a nearby service center that

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could produce a customade saddle for his

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clients bike shops you know they already

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can make custom footbeds and they use 3d

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motion capture technology to adjust or

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replace cockpit components as part of a

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fit that optimizes comfort and

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performance and they already have sit

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bone measurement and pressure mapping

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tools but they can't make a custom

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saddle from the data they get from those

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tools they can only really use it to

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recommend several saddles for you to try

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Nate who I can always trust to be direct

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was clear about the bike seat that he

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tested he said it isn't a 3D printed s

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specifically designed for my butt its

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shape and areas of softer versus firmer

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C cushioning are just as arbitrary for

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my best fit as any traditional saddle so

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when choosing between non-custom 3D

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printed saddles or between vam and foone

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Saddles it kind of looks like we're back

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to the existing process of riding a

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series of saddles over time to find one

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that fits best custommade 3D printed

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Saddles like the pedla joy seat do show

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the potential and me did deliver on the

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ability to improve my comfort and

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performance and by the way if you're

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getting something from this video and

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want to see more like it well then

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please hit the Subscribe and thumbs up

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buttons below that will tell me that you

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want more videos like this and help get

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the word out to other cyclists

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thanks if you're looking to get more

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comfort from a 3D printed saddle it's

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important not to lose sight of the

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overall bike fit when you choose between

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them you know your saddle is just one

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part of the of the puzzle the other

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pieces are your frame geometry and the

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size and positioning of your seat post

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your stem your handlebars your crank set

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and your pedals miles had to lower his

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seat post about 6 or 7 millimet when he

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switched to the 3D printed physique

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anaris with its taller rails from the

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foam padded anaris and it took him three

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or four rides to settle on that position

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when I switched from the Roman foam to

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the 3D printed Roman on my road bike my

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fitter moved this saddle 2 cm higher and

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3 cm further back after two FIT sessions

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Dean duplicated the height for and a and

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nose angle of each of the 3D printed

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Saddles that he tested to put it in the

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same position as his foam saddle which

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was also uncomfortable on longer rides

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and as I record this video Dean and I

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are doing an 8-week pedal stroke class

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to learn how to to use our glutes better

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to deliver more power during the very

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first class the instructor of legate

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level cycling coach and a long tenured

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bike fitter while he noted a pronounced

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asymmetry in Dean's pedal stroke after a

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complete bike fit later that week coach

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repositioned Dean saddle and the cleat

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on one of his shoes now it's too soon to

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tell whether the fit and saddle changes

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will offer Dean the relief that he hopes

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for but without the fit adjustments it's

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unlikely that Dean would ever find

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Comfort on Long rides regardless of

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which saddle he tries well I focused on

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the potential Comfort benefits of 3D

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printed Saddles until now Comfort should

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also lead to better performance yet in

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some of our testing the exposed 3D

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printed lattice on these Saddles

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affected our performance miles and Nate

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my fastest and most aggressive fellow

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testers well they found the grippy

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surface prevented them from gliding or

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sliding their position in the saddle

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during a ride Racers and enthusiasts who

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ride more aggressively they move their

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butt back to get more power on climbs

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they move it forward to get more Arrow

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going downhill and they move it side to

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side for more control in the corners

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specialized that they seem to have

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accounted for this issue although not

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consciously with their recently

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introduced power expert mirror satell

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that I've also listed in the description

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box below it uses a cover over its

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combination of 3D printed pad in the sit

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bone area and foam padding elsewhere but

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the company stated its purpose Pur for

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the cover is to quote keep mud and

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debris out of the nooks and crannies of

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the 3D lattice and the quote hammock

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effect they say they've created in the

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sit bone area seems contrary to the more

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consistent pressure an aggressive Rider

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would want as they move around on the

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saddle endurance Riders and non-racing

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enthusiasts like me we don't typically

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move our position in the saddle much or

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frequently and if we do it's probably

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because we aren't comfortable and are

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looking to relieve the pressure on our

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sit bones more than to ride more

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aggressively when riding my gravel bike

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I'll deliberately get out of the saddle

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to move my weight back when I go down

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hill or to lean my bike into the corner

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while keeping my weight out over the

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outside pedal that's likely why the more

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forgiving 3D Roman is comfortable riding

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over rough surfaces on my gravel bike is

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I don't move forward or back with my

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weight still in the saddle as I

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mentioned earlier miles Nate and I well

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we were happy with our existing phone

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Saddles before we started testing the 3D

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printed ones only Dean was looking for a

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saddle to give him more Comfort on Long

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rides a 3D printed saddle ultimately may

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solve his discomfort but he first needed

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to get a fit to find out cost aside Nate

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miles wouldn't choose to ride the 3D

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printed Saddles they tested over their

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foam padded ones principally because of

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the way the surface limited their

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movement in the saddle Dean on the other

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hand he told me he would spend almost

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anything for a more comfortable saddle

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while I was happy with my foam padded

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Roman on my road bike rides on my gravel

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bike rides and for all but the longest

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trainer rides I'm even happier with the

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Roman mirror on my gravel bike and the

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posted Joy seat on my road and trainer

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bikes now I don't think the Improvement

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is so great that I would pay more than

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twice the price it would cost me if I

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had to replace one of my Romans but if

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you haven't found a standard foam or gel

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Cy saddle that gives you the fit and

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comfort that you want or that you need

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the custom configured petta Joy seat is

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the best 3D printed saddle that we've

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tested and it may just be worth it to

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you to buy it the non-custom 3D printed

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Saddles from physique and specialized

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cost slightly less than the joy seat and

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are available almost immediately from

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online stores or your local bike shop if

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you test several and find one that gives

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you markedly better comfort and

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performance for your anatomy and the

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kind of riding that you do well that

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could be a good value for you in the

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comment section below let me know what

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you're looking for from a saddle and if

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you've tried them what your experience

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has been with a 3D printed one your

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feedback can help fellow cyclists decide

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what they might do it also might help

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saddle makers improve their products in

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ways that will benefit more of us and

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check out some of my other videos

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including those you see beside me that

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will help you decide what other gear you

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might want to get next and where to get

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it thanks for watching see you again in

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