Host's Anti-Ceasefire BS Dismantled Completely During INTENSE Debate
Summary
TLDRThe transcript discusses media coverage of the US and UK's controversial decision to expand military strikes in Yemen. It criticizes the framing of Yemen's Houthis as irrational actors attacking trade routes without cause. The speakers argue this ignores key context - solidarity for Palestinians facing Israeli violence in Gaza. They condemn the strikes for inflicting immense suffering on Yemeni civilians already facing humanitarian catastrophe. Overall the video challenges Western narratives that rationalize military intervention in Yemen and failures to curb Israeli aggression towards Palestinians.
Takeaways
- 😡 The presenters justify US/UK bombing Yemen by claiming it's to stop Houthi attacks on trade routes, ignoring the context of Israeli violence in Gaza.
- 😤 The presenters imply the Houthis are insincere or irrational, while western powers are legitimate rational actors.
- 🤨 The presenters dismiss comparisons between Israeli bombing of Gaza and U.S./U.K. bombing of Yemen.
- 😠 The guest argues western imperial powers hold others to moral standards they don't apply to themselves.
- 😣 The Israelis appear to have no serious plans for peace with Palestinians, just permanent imprisonment.
- 😫 Decades of U.S. appeasement have emboldened Israeli aggression and rights violations against Palestinians.
- 🤬 The guest condemns U.S. justifications of bombing Yemen while ignoring ongoing humanitarian crisis and civilian deaths in Gaza.
- 😡 U.S. justifies aggression by painting groups like Houthis as irrational terrorists, ignoring history of western imperialism.
- 😠 The Israelis openly insult EU diplomats instead of engaging seriously on peace proposals.
- 😒 The U.S. applies biased logic, justifying Israeli bombing of Gaza while condemning similar Houthi actions.
Q & A
What is the context of the discussion in the video?
-The discussion is about the US and UK expanding their attacks on Yemen in response to Houthi rebels disrupting international shipping routes. The attackers argue this is justified while the guest argues it is an overreaction and hypocritical given the humanitarian crisis in Yemen caused in large part by Saudi bombing supported by the US and UK.
What is the justification given by the hosts for the US and UK attacks on Yemen?
-The hosts argue the attacks are justified because the Houthis have been disrupting important international shipping routes by holding the area "at ransom." They argue this disruption has cost billions of dollars.
How does the guest counter the hosts' justification?
-The guest argues it is hypocritical to bomb one of the poorest countries causing a humanitarian crisis in response to shipping disruptions. She argues the West ignores international law when it's convenient and there are always consequences.
Why does the guest say the Houthis are disrupting shipping?
-The guest argues the shipping disruptions are in solidarity with Palestinians against Israel's actions in Gaza. She says the Houthis are showing support for the Palestinian cause and opposing US and Israeli policy in the region.
What argument does the guest make about how the US views conflicts?
-The guest argues the US and West view themselves as rational actors while painting Arab groups like the Houthis as irrational. She says this ignores the context and decades of destructive Western foreign policy in the region.
What does the guest say is the root cause of Arab hostility toward Israel and the West?
-She argues Arab hostility is completely rational given decades of indiscriminate bombing, military intervention, and enabling of Israel's treatment of Palestinians by the US in the region.
How does the guest characterize Israel's position on Gaza?
-The guest says Israel has no interest in peace or Palestinian statehood. She says their real plan is to destroy infrastructure and institutions in Gaza to make life as miserable as possible for Palestinians.
What happened at the meeting between Israel and EU diplomats?
-Israel's foreign minister confused EU officials by showing a years-old video about building an artificial island off Gaza's coast. The EU saw this as Israel showing no real interest in peace.
What does the guest say about US responsibility for the conflict?
-She blames decades of US support for Israel under multiple presidents for enabling Israel's actions against Palestinians. She says this appeasement has led to the current crisis.
What is the guest's view on sports betting?
-The guest says she is anti-betting and thinks the gamification of sports is hollowing everything out. She sees betting as a problematic psychological trap, evidenced by herself and co-host's poor results betting on sports.
Outlines
😕 Hot Take Discussing Houthi Actions to Support Palestinians and Western Hypocrisy
The first paragraph is a discussion between news anchors about the recent US/UK bombing of Yemen in response to Houthi attacks on trade routes. One anchor argues the bombings are justified to protect trade, while the other points out the hypocrisy of bombing an already devastated country and ignoring the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
😡 Heated Debate Over Who Bears Moral Responsibility for Civilian Casualties
The second paragraph continues the debate, with one anchor arguing that the same logic used to blame Hamas for Gaza applies to the Houthis in Yemen. The other pushes back, questioning why the West assesses the moral character of militant groups but not its own role in creating the conditions for their emergence.
😤 Critique of How the West Judges the Sincerity and Rationality of Non-Western Actors
The third paragraph extends the critique of Western hypocrisy, arguing there is an assumption that Western nations are rational actors while non-Western ones like the Houthis are judged based on their sincerity. There is a failure to understand local perspectives on US/Israeli actions in the region.
🙄 Israel's Artificial 'Solution' for Gaza Highlights Lack of Credible Peace Planning
The fourth paragraph covers Israel's farcical proposal to build an artificial island off Gaza's coast after a meeting with EU diplomats. This empty gesture highlights Israel's disinterest in substantive peace negotiations and their desire to maintain indefinite control over Gaza.
😪 Recriminations Over Decades of US and UK Appeasement Towards Israel's Occupation of Palestine
The fifth paragraph contains closing reflections on how decades of appeasement by US and UK governments have enabled Israel's apartheid policies and harsh occupation of Palestinian territories.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Yemen
💡Houthis
💡Gaza
💡Trade routes
💡Israel
💡Ceasefire
💡Bombing
💡United States
💡United Kingdom
💡Conflict
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Transcripts
this is an interesting exchange here on
Sky News don't know who these uh
presenters are they invited on Dr Miriam
Francois I don't really know who she is
a journalist and a filmmaker it was
interesting just to see this play out
because the US and UK now have expanded
their attacks on uh Yemen in an attempt
to um I guess uh debilitate the the
hoties from attacking the uh trade um
uh
roots that uh they've been doing um and
they'll said they'll they will stop when
there's a ceasefire that's what that's
what they're saying publicly so they
could TR us could try that said the
entire time or they could bomb them well
I mean it's the uh the US is all in and
not uh you know if you're not going to
call for a um a ceasefire when you see a
wholesale Slaughter of civilians uh it
would be bad for to do it because of uh
inflationary pressures uh put on uh
international trade routes but the
problem that I think the US and UK
government have is that this is not it
is coupled to a another thing that's
happening that they have influence on
this is you cannot look at the hoties as
attacking trade routes um in a vacuum
because it's not happening in a vacuum
that's what everyone wants you to do but
that that's exactly the point and that's
what's interesting about this is that um
uh these news presenters have a tough
time sort of presenting it in that way
Dr Fran I mean there are many who were
saying that frankly the Biden
Administration should have acted sooner
and faster that hundreds of billions of
dollars uh has been put at risk because
the houthis have held uh this area in
the Red Sea um at Ransom sorry so just
let me get this straight yela so we are
bombing the poorest one of the poorest
countries in the world that has been
under a humanitarian blockade there has
been famine these people have been
decimated and we are bombing them
because a couple of guys in dingies in
support for the Palestinians who are
having a genocide committed against them
they're objecting to that and we're
bombing them come on now I mean this is
just an insane world for us to even
think I'm so sorry your Amazon packages
are delayed I really am like I wish my
came one time but you know genocide guys
genocide there are two mothers a day
dying in Gaza right now it's 109 days
into a conflict in which a humanitarian
crisis has been declared to the world
day in day out by the way by the way Dr
franois there are many who are Yemen
Watchers who are who Monitor and follow
the houthis who say this is doing
wonders for their branding actually that
it isn't just the Palestinian cause that
they're focused on I mean the I have no
doubt that the hooes um and I think you
know everything I've read suggests that
they're having a hard time governing and
that this is um that uh engaging in a
conflict like this uh drives um legitim
National yeah their legitimacy and sort
of nationalism nationalistic fervor um
yes that of course that Dynamic exists
in every time a government launches a
conflict in some fashion um but the
bottom line is like this is all this was
all to be expected the reason why the
Biden Administration moved in uh naval
ships early on was because they knew
this conflict has the ability to expand
and so you have a choice you either roll
with the expansion of that
conflict or you try and um end the
conflict and the Biden Administration
has made their Choice which is we're not
going to try and end the conflict I mean
why does I'm sorry but why does that
give the hotis more legitimacy why it's
not just not stage it's not just that
they're engaging in a war or in a
conflict it's the fact that they're
showing solidarity for the Palestinian
people when you see how other Arab
countries and people in those Nations
feel about Israel's genocide of the
Palestinian people you can understand
why who the houthis domestically might
see it as a prime opportunity for them
to show and thumb their nose at us
Imperial power which I got to I like I I
hate to break it to White British and
American anchors in this country who are
cozy and make millions of dollars but
the United States is not viewed with
much reverence in the region that we
have been indiscriminately bombing for
decades and decades and decades and that
Israel is like a colonial Outpost for
our interests in that region yeah they
don't have a ton of legitimacy there we
don't so the houthi doing this is
actually completely logical even though
it's painted as some sort of like Arab
barbarism it's if this if the genocide
was happening in our backyard to one of
our allies or other people I mean look
at how we responded in solidarity with
sending weapons to people in Ukraine
because Russia is in opposition to us
these are these are this is how
geopolitics works but it but but but
white people get to be rational actors
on the on the international stage and
then brown people or Arab people or
Muslim people they're all irrational the
people that's are supporting the bombing
of theth yeah it is disgusting that you
people are saying well what about the uh
might be inflation or rise and shipping
you know how many people are starving in
Gaza right now million it's it's it's
absolutely disgusting to be called like
Pro terrorist or something like that
kiss my ass I mean uh the let's put it
this
way if the hooes were disrupting uh
international trade routs and we're
firing on civilian
vessels and whether you think they're
sincere or not in there I mean uh which
is just a bizarre way to look at this
whether you think they're sincere or not
if they were doing this in the total
absence of this Israeli assault on Gaza
if there was nothing else going on and
they were doing it because they were
driving uh they're trying to drive their
own sort of like uh public perception uh
the the quality of their public
perception in
Yemen No one would be talking about it
yep if the US was bombing we would be
like wait you we shouldn't be doing this
boom that would be the end of the story
like there would be
nobody the the it would you have a
coalition being able to be built because
the houthis are just acting out for some
reason against uh shipping yeah of
course I mean that's the thing is that
the the the whole point is that the
Biden Administration have completely
open themselves up to this expansion of
this regional conflict because of their
failure to in any
way attempt to reign in Israel because
it is not an attempt to say we're going
we're we're sending a letter to your
manager and we just put To whom it does
concern I mean that is that is the point
uh continue on with
us who are Yemen Watchers who are who
Monitor and follow the houthis who say
this is doing wonders for their branding
actually that it isn't just the
Palestinian cause that they're focused
on so call a ceasefire now and end the
positive branding if you want to stop
the houth doing what they're doing then
call a believe the houth would would
stop doing what they're doing if they
have literally said that that's why
they're doing what they're doing they
have not previously blocked those routes
it real quick you know I'm going can
take it off but like the idea that
America and Britain have the ability to
UM Vet other for sincerity in this sort
of conflict is ludicrous the the the
we State actors that are white and are
powerful or rational um State actors
that are poor and Arab we have to we
have to assess their moral character
yep the reason except this one so yes I
do and I also think the West needs to
start to understand that you cannot just
go around playing Cowboys in the world
there are consequences to your actions
you cannot just go around bombing
people's countries ignoring
international law and expect no
repercussions for every cause there is a
consequence and just because you don't
like a couple of guys trying to
resist are now prescribed terrorists
sure according to Western governments
theying to the Yemen peoples the Saudi
back government which is essentially our
but but the yemenis who live uh you know
under Hy rule talk about the fact that
this group continues to terrorize them
as well that's fan of the houthis apart
from when they're blockading in favor of
a seire which should have been called a
long time ago 55,000 people are dead in
Gaza right now there are over 60,000
people injured with no access to Food
Water Aid how dare we have a
conversation about trade when there are
children right now being treated without
anesthetic there are things that require
us to
make they do have the global economy
Global Market hostage good for
them Bill brother good for them cease
fire now cease fire now we're going to
have to uh leave it uh there that guy
had a great rhetoric but here's the
point is that if you if you are one of
those people who believe
that the uh
responsibility
for
the tens of thousands of Civilian casual
uales uh in Gaza is squarely on Hamas
and not a function of
Israel uh then that same logic makes it
impossible for you to blame the hooes
for
um for the uh them firing on these
civilian vessels I mean the same logic
would make it impossible because of
course the hooes are doing it's in their
best interest to do so that's the
argument right that they're being
opportunist okay great the opportunity
away from the uh if if everything just
runs in such a like there's if there is
no such thing as like a moral
culpability but a happens then B
necessarily has to happen C necessarily
has to happen um then if you're going to
apply that type of
logic to
the wiping out of of like housing and
resources and hospitals and
universities uh and the desecration of
cemeteries in Gaza to Hamas there's no
agency by
Israel how do you not come to the same
conclusion with the hotis why why the ho
why just just think for a second just
have empathy for one second why do you
think the houthis or people in Yemen or
in the Middle East don't like Israel or
the United States why it's actually
incredibly rational because of decades
bombings yeah I mean we're back to that
we are back to that yeah it's not it's
insincere it's all just cuz they hate
the West for our freedoms we're back to
Newsweek post like a week after 911 do
you support the Taliban they're lying
when they alaa you think Pirates care
about Palestinians they're Pirates not
Palestinian lovers instead of looking at
the structural issues of the world's
superpower and the way that we've
conducted ourselves I would like to
spend my time assessing the moral
character of extremist groups or just
like uh militant groups that come up and
crop up because of our actions in the
region like this is the arrogance
honestly of Western Empires and they the
it's it's complexity for us in our
indiscriminate action actions but uh
black and white moral assessments of
terrorism on the other end
and in the end all you are is a racist
all you are wild it's wild to see how
many people even on the nominal
Progressive left the second we start
bombing somebody uh the rationalizations
come out and the path paiz of the left
come out and all of a sudden it's oh
you're not you're not grown up enough to
understand why we are all of a sudden
throwing missiles at another population
instead of just you know giv the
missiles of the Saudis to do it um one
final story uh before we go into the uh
fun half um apparently there was an
Israel EU meeting on uh the future of
Gaza and the Israelis
have I mean it gets reported like they
have no plan for Gaza they seem to have
a plan for Gaza and that is to U make it
as impos life as impossible as it could
possibly be for the Palestinians living
there their plan is to basically level
um uh what is there to get rid of all
the um uh cultural institutions to get
rid of the health
institutions um to get rid of all these
things and maintain either uh military
control by having uh military there or
just again control it in the way that
they've been controlling it as an open
air prison but this point now with this
level of starvation they're they're
exerting the control by um withholding
things like food and water and whatnot
um they uh the EU met with um Israel's
um I guess ambassador to the
EU Joseph barl
fontel the eu's top Diplomat met in
Brussels uh and said that it appeared
that the two sides were having two
different
conversations
um are
PAL by the way of course not European
nations were Resolute that sustainable
lasting peace must include Palestinian
statehood an option that uh Benjamin
Netanyahu of Israel is doubl down on
opposing in recent days Israel's foreign
minister Israel Katz presented to
Europeans a plan involving an artificial
island off a gaza's
coast So the plan after the closed door
meeting with European uh Union ministers
in Brussels I mean I just found this
laughable I feel like it this sort of
stuff feels like it's meant to be
insulting oh it is it is meant to be
like let's just do anything and uh stall
here and just show how feckless everyone
is until they actually decide to get
serious with us and they won't uh at the
closed door meeting with European
ministers in Brussels Mr Katz this is
incidentally from The New York Times
Israel's foreign minister let off left
officials confused when he screened a
video which dates to at least
2017 about a pet proposal of his to
create an artificial island off the
gazen coast he said it could be used to
inspect cargo and passengers arriving by
sea into the territory this is according
to an Israeli official and six European
diplomats and officials familiar with
the meeting afterward Mr Burell said of
the island planned this didn't have much
to do with what we were discussing so
the point is there is no partner for
peace on the Israeli side they show up
and they just do this basically joke
presentation um as a way of basically
telling the
EU go after
yourself we our one
negotiation um we will have our uh you
know prison checkpoint we're going to
build an artificial Island to do
it call it a
gazra it's sort of like Elon Musk can
like actually send them to Mars yeah
exactly right I mean it's our land so
I'm going to seee for the Palestinians
get Peter teal involved I'm I'm just you
know we I thank you for the US
presidents over the past few decades for
your appeasement of this fascist
far-right government I mean you it's not
just Joe Biden and he is genocide Joe
blood on his hands whatever but like
they have led us to this moment the
United States government and and UK
governments collectively you can tell
quite a story about all the I mean
obviously Clinton and but Obama taking
pictures with say and knowing chapter
and verse on the Palestinian struggle
and then uh you know capitulating the
way he did and despite you know
Netanyahu making him uh the big bad
anyway I mean yeah it's
horrible all right we're going to take a
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