Could A Reprint Ruin Pokemon 151?

Phillips Collectibles
10 Sept 202412:21

Summary

TLDRThe video discusses the potential impact of a Pokémon 151 reprint on the set's value. The creator, an investor and collector, argues for a reprint due to high demand, despite owning the set. They explore the debate between collectors who want affordable cards and investors who prefer scarcity. Analyzing past reprints, they suggest a reprint won't ruin the set's long-term value, drawing parallels to other sets like Lost Origin. The video also touches on the market behavior of various Pokémon products post-reprint, emphasizing the importance of timing investments in the Pokémon card market.

Takeaways

  • 💭 The speaker believes a reprint of Pokémon 151 is necessary due to high demand, despite owning the set and acknowledging its quality.
  • 🤔 There's a debate on whether reprints ruin a set, with collectors and investors having differing views on the matter.
  • 📈 The speaker argues that reprints should meet demand but also allow for scarcity and value appreciation over time.
  • 🔍 Historical data shows that sets like Evolving Skies and Fusion Strike have had reprints without significant negative impact on value.
  • 📉 The speaker notes that reprints can initially cause prices to drop but historically they recover and even exceed previous highs.
  • 🌐 The demand for Pokémon 151 is so high that even multiple reprints might not satisfy the market completely.
  • 📦 The Ultra Premium Collection (UPC) for Pokémon 151 is particularly in demand and could benefit from a reprint to lower prices.
  • 📈 The Elite Trainer Box (ETB) has seen a significant increase in price over a short period, indicating strong demand.
  • 📊 The prices of singles like Venusaur and Charizard from Pokémon 151 have been stable, suggesting a solid market.
  • 💡 Reprints can be advantageous for collectors looking to buy cards at lower prices, as they typically cause a temporary dip in the market.
  • 💼 The speaker suggests that timing is crucial in Pokémon investing, and provides a video with strategies on how to invest wisely.

Q & A

  • What is the main concern about reprinting the Pokémon 151 set?

    -The main concern is whether a reprint would ruin the set by devaluing it, especially for investors, or if it would simply meet the current high demand without damaging its long-term value.

  • Why does the speaker believe a reprint of Pokémon 151 is necessary?

    -The speaker believes a reprint is necessary because the demand for the set is high, and it would ensure that more people, including collectors and kids, can access it at a reasonable price.

  • How do investors and collectors differ in their views on reprints?

    -Investors often dislike reprints because they reduce the scarcity of a set, which can affect its value. Collectors, on the other hand, prefer reprints because they make the cards more affordable and accessible.

  • Does the speaker believe a reprint would ruin the Pokémon 151 set?

    -No, the speaker does not believe a reprint would ruin the set. Based on the performance of other reprinted sets like Evolving Skies, they argue that high-demand sets maintain their value even after reprints.

  • How did other Pokémon sets like Evolving Skies and Lost Origin perform after reprints?

    -Sets like Evolving Skies and Lost Origin performed well after multiple reprints. Despite the reprints, the prices for these sets eventually rose, showing that demand can keep a set valuable even after reprints.

  • What advice does the speaker give to Pokémon investors regarding reprints?

    -The speaker advises investors not to panic if a reprint happens. They suggest holding onto their cards rather than selling during the reprint period, as prices are likely to rise again in the future.

  • What impact do reprints usually have on single cards within a set?

    -Reprints typically cause the prices of single cards to drop temporarily. However, the speaker mentions that these prices often recover over time, as seen with cards from sets like Lost Origin and Japanese 151.

  • Why does the speaker believe Pokémon 151 will maintain its long-term value even with a reprint?

    -The speaker believes that Pokémon 151 will maintain its long-term value because of the ongoing demand for the original 151 Pokémon, which makes it unlikely that the set’s appeal will diminish significantly.

  • What does the speaker say about the impact of reprints on market stability for sets like Pokémon 151?

    -The speaker mentions that while reprints may cause temporary drops in prices, the overall market for sets like Pokémon 151 remains stable, with demand driving prices back up in the long term.

  • What can collectors expect if a reprint of Pokémon 151 happens?

    -If a reprint happens, collectors can expect lower prices for sealed products and singles, making it an ideal time to complete their collections at a more affordable rate.

Outlines

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🔍 Pokémon 151 Reprint: Necessary or Harmful?

The speaker discusses the potential effects of a Pokémon 151 reprint on the set's value. Despite personal investment, the speaker believes a reprint is necessary due to high demand. They emphasize the challenge of balancing investor and collector interests, with reprints potentially affecting scarcity and collectibility. Overprinting may diminish the 'magic' of the set, while underprinting risks leaving collectors and children without access. The speaker supports the idea that trading card game companies should print to meet demand, but also acknowledges the importance of scarcity for collectible value.

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📉 Pokémon 151 Market Trends: Buy Now or Wait?

The speaker warns that buying Pokémon 151 at its current market peak could lead to short-term losses if a reprint occurs. However, they stress that only those who sell during the reprint would lose money, as prices tend to recover over time. Referencing other sets like Lost Origin, which rebounded after reprints, the speaker advises patience, as long-term trends often show value increases after an initial post-reprint dip. The key takeaway is that Pokémon card investing requires timing, and holding onto cards through market fluctuations can be profitable.

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📈 Pokémon 151: Ultra Premium Collection & Reprint Impact

The Ultra Premium Collection could experience significant price fluctuations depending on reprint decisions. The speaker explains that ultra-rare items like these tend to retain their value better, but the overall market conditions will still have an effect.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Reprint

A reprint refers to the process of producing additional copies of a previously released card set. In the context of the video, the discussion revolves around whether reprinting the Pokémon 151 set would diminish its value or demand. The creator argues that reprints can meet high demand without necessarily ruining the set’s appeal.

💡Demand

Demand in this context refers to the level of consumer interest and desire to purchase the Pokémon 151 set. The video highlights the high demand for the set and debates whether reprinting could satisfy this demand without adversely affecting the set's value.

💡Collectors

Collectors are individuals who acquire and keep Pokémon cards primarily for personal enjoyment and to complete their collections. The video contrasts the perspectives of collectors, who prefer affordable cards, with investors, who seek to maintain or increase card values.

💡Investors

Investors are individuals who purchase Pokémon cards with the expectation of their value increasing over time. The video discusses how reprints might affect investors' strategies, potentially lowering the immediate value of cards but not necessarily impacting long-term value.

💡Scarcity

Scarcity refers to the limited availability of a product, which can drive up its value and desirability. The video explores the balance between making cards accessible to all and maintaining a level of scarcity to preserve the set's allure and value.

💡Evolving Skies

Evolving Skies is another Pokémon card set mentioned in the video as an example. Despite multiple reprints, this set has maintained high value, suggesting that reprints do not necessarily ruin a set’s long-term market appeal.

💡Lost Origin

Lost Origin is a Pokémon card set that experienced high demand and was reprinted. The video uses it as a case study to show that reprints can temporarily lower prices, but demand can cause prices to rise again over time.

💡Ultra Premium Collection (UPC)

The Ultra Premium Collection (UPC) is a special, higher-priced Pokémon card set that includes premium items and packs. The video discusses the high demand and rising prices for the UPC, suggesting it could benefit from a reprint without long-term negative effects.

💡Market Stability

Market stability refers to the consistent pricing and demand for Pokémon cards over time. The video points out that despite reprints, the market for sets like Pokémon 151 remains stable, with prices eventually recovering and increasing.

💡Timing

Timing refers to the strategic consideration of when to buy or sell Pokémon cards to maximize investment returns. The video emphasizes the importance of timing purchases and sales around reprints to avoid losses and capitalize on price increases.

Highlights

The speaker supports a reprint for Pokémon 151 despite being an investor, citing high demand and accessibility as key reasons.

There's a distinction between collectors and investors, with collectors seeking affordable cards while investors want scarcity and value appreciation.

Reprints are viewed as controversial, but they help make cards more accessible and prevent scalping and overpricing during release periods.

The speaker believes reprints should not permanently devalue a set as long as demand remains strong, using past examples like Evolving Skies and Fusion Strike.

Sets like Lost Origin have shown that prices can stabilize and even rise again after a reprint, indicating that reprints don't necessarily ruin long-term value.

The speaker advises that reprint-driven price drops are often temporary, and those who hold onto their investments may see prices rise again in the future.

The upcoming Christmas period and the ongoing entry of new collectors into the Pokémon hobby will likely maintain or increase demand for sets like Pokémon 151.

The speaker mentions how reprints can benefit collectors by lowering the prices of singles and sealed products, making it easier to complete collections.

There is evidence that certain products, like the Pokémon 151 Ultra Premium Collection, are already seeing price increases due to limited availability.

The speaker stresses that reprints help balance the market, preventing extreme price spikes while still allowing long-term value appreciation.

Market dynamics for Pokémon sets, especially singles like Venusaur and Charizard from Pokémon 151, remain relatively stable despite fluctuations caused by reprints.

The speaker notes that reprints bring down the prices of sealed products and singles temporarily, but demand for popular sets like Pokémon 151 remains high.

Reprints allow collectors to access cards at lower prices, but the speaker advises that over time, prices often return to their previous highs.

The Pokémon 151 reprint is unlikely to damage the set's long-term value because the original 151 Pokémon remain highly desirable among collectors and investors.

The speaker emphasizes timing purchases correctly, noting that buying during a reprint can be advantageous for both collectors and investors.

Transcripts

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so would a Pokémon 151 reprint ruin the

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set entirely and this kind of video has

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come about because you know I did make a

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video talking about a Pokémon 151

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reprint and personally I'm in the camp

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that I think it needs one even though

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I've personally invested in Pokemon 151

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and I've always spoken about how great

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of a set it is I still think a reprint

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is necessary given the fact of how much

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demand there is for the set and I think

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just calling it quit right now and the

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set is barely a year old is a little bit

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premature I think one reprint would be

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valid for a set of this much demand

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though of course that is my opinion

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though a big question that comes about

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is will the reprint ruin the set there's

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a lot of speculation and a lot of people

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talk about reprints in general and it's

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it can be seen as a bit of a dirty word

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within the hobby because there is a

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little bit there's there's always this

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huge dichotomy between the collectors

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and the investors of the side and the

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investors like the one reprint and

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that's how it is and that's how it goes

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and then you know you got the collectors

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and they kind of like to collect the

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cards and they want to have a Affordable

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Cards which they can get at a fair price

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point and I am sitting in between the

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middle one side I believe that everyone

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should have access to product 100% I

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believe product shouldn't be on release

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I don't think you should be fighting

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over product I think that that that

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Pokemon and every single TCG company

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needs to be printing towards demand I

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think that is a right of passage I do

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not think that anyone should be fighting

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over sets on release though I am very

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much also in the camp that once the set

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has had its life let the set rise in

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value or let there be some scarcity

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associated with the set I mean it is

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Collectibles that's the magical Allure

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of them right now balancing this fine

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Act is very difficult because if you

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overprint a set you effectively make it

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lose its magic it loses its magnetic

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appeal it loses that kind of thing where

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it's like oh is it going to run out you

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know what I mean and whereas when you

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underprint a set it kind of has this

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little icky feeling around it because

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it's like wait well kids really should

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be have access to product kids should

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miss out for Christmas period uh

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collectors shouldn't miss out just

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because there's so much demand scalpers

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and stuff shouldn't be able to take

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advantage of this you know it's it

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becomes an unfair playing territory

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though regarding Pokémon 151 and whether

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or not a reprint would ruin the set I'm

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about to go into that within this video

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though I just want to say guys if this

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is your first time tuning in please feel

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free to subscribe and just welcome to

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the channel I'd love to have you on

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board I just kind of started this

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channel earlier this year talking about

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Pokémon collecting and investing it's

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always been a massive passion of mine

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but I kind of had this thing when I'm

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like you know what I kind of want to you

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know talk about this with the world and

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you know I feel like it's been quite

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successful so if it is your first time

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please feel free to subscribe to the

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channel I'd honestly love to have you on

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board when we look at reprints and

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whether or not they have some sort of

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effect there's two ways to look at this

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R now whether or not a reprint will ruin

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the set what we need to really look at

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is just take a little bit of a back

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pedal on sets that have had reprints and

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the sets have not been ruined whatsoever

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evolving skies I believe had three waves

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of reprints and that really hasn't had

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that much effect on the ceiling of the

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booster box value you can see evolving

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Skies is sitting at incredibly High

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values at the moment even with the

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amount of reprints that it had same with

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Fusion strike same with chilling rain a

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lot of these sets had reprints and it

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didn't have that much effect on the

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ceiling so is there a correlation

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between if a set doesn't get reprinted

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or if a set gets reprinted and it goes

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to its high I'm not too sure obviously

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if there's one set and you know gets

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printed once and it never gets reprinted

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and there's this scarcity thing sure it

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will climb in value but really if there

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is demand to begin with it's hard to

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wipe that away man like it's it's very

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hard to just wipe it out now what's

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interesting is and I want to just take

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you through a little bit of a history

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with lost origin right so lost origin

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last year was getting quite in demand

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you know the set released late 2022 and

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by mid 2023 it was already looking like

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stock was running dry and a lot of

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people were literally begging for a

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reprint though I can't go on TCG player

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all the way that back but I'm right here

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on TCG player and you can see lost

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origin here after the reprint happened

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it happened in I think it was June last

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year even in September it was sitting at

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130 135 129 129 and it was sitting like

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that pretty much for most of the year

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and then of course it started Rising

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this year which was about nearly 7 to 8

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months after the reprint it started

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beginning to rise so you can see what

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will usually happen whether or not

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Pokémon 151 would be damaged because of

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a reprint it's very unlikely cuz what

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would happen and you can see it with

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Japanese 151 now as well there would be

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this thing where everyone goes oh it's

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reprinted it's useless we don't need it

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we don't need it oh my God suck is

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available oh it's so abundant we don't

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need it we don't need it it gets flooded

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into the market people kind of be like

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GH I don't want it I don't want to touch

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it I can get it whenever I want and then

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slowly slowly because people are not

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acting on it people are not taking

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decisive action it slowly begins Rising

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now here's the thing if you buy at the

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top so if you bought Pokémon 151 right

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now okay you are actually buying it at

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the top of its Market point right now

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it's pretty much the highest point you

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can buy it if there is a reprint

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obviously it's going to go down though a

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little bit of a rule with Pokémon

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investing is you only lose if you sell

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so Japanese 151 you can see it's rising

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a little bit in value there was a

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massive reprint in May this year it was

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absolutely enormous pric has tumbled way

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down now it is most certainly not back

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at the prices that it was before the

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reprint but you can see it's slowly

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climbing now give this another 6 months

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to another year and it is very likely

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it's going to match its previous high

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and this is what it's important to know

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that if you do buy out of cycle like

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buying 151 right now and there's a

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reprint you would only really lose if

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you sold during the reprint if you just

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sat and held it's very likely that those

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prices would one day rise again to those

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levels just like you can see with lost

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origin here this is now exceeding what

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it was now I can't go back that far you

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know before the reprint but I think

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before the reprint it was already gone

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to like 145 us 150 us and you can

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currently see right now it's sitting at

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2113 so it's exceeded its previous high

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so would the1 reprint completely ruin

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the set absolutely not though very

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interesting things are happening with

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Pokémon 151 that need to be accounted

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for so you can see the ultra premium

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collection I'm going to just pull this

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in the one month graph you can see it

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was sitting at August 5th at

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$122 and now it's sitting at $143

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just over a month later the UPC is in

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demand this one is very deserving of a

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reprint my opinion I think the ultra

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premium collection is quite expensive to

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begin with and seeing it already go to

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143 us you know you you don't get that

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many packs inside the UPC you get 16

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packs so definitely it could use a

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reprint to get these prices a little bit

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down though will it ruin its complete

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long-term value absolutely not Pokémon

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151 in the original 151 Pokémon are just

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way too desired you cannot just wipe

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this out of existence you can probably

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have another two reprints of this and it

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still wouldn't curb the demand for this

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set not just talking about now I'm

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talking 3 years from now I'm talking

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four years from now 5 years from now

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it's not going to get printed

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indefinitely right there is going to be

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a point where Pokémon says no we need to

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move on now seeing as there is going to

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be an EV theme set you know whether it's

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later this year or early next year

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you're going to have the team rocket set

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you've got surging Sparks you got Stella

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Crown you got powder evolved and

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Twilight masquerade also needing

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reprints it does kind of make you think

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Pokémon cannot just keep milking the1

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cow they once they do a reprint if they

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do they're probably going to back away

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so I don't think it's going to have that

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much of a damaging effect on the overall

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market for the long term moving to the

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next one you can see here the Elite

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Trainer Box and you can just see I'm on

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the 3mon timeline here but you can just

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see in this last little month here the

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etbs literally just going up it was on

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$65 and now it's sitting at 73 an $8

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increase in a month is quite substantial

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right we pull this into the year graph

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and you can see here it was sitting at

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$57 in release this had a low of $46 and

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it's now sitting at $73 if you bought

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here you know during the Christmas

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period last year for $46 I mean you've

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made quite a decent amount of money from

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46 to 73 you know even when including

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Celler fees you've made quite a nice am

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amount of profit right I mean it's

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obviously not doubled yet but if if you

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know without a reprint that's going to

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go very very high depending on how many

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people want the set don't forget the

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Christmas period is coming up there's

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still a lot of people really wanting the

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set and don't forget one thing that a

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lot of people forget is every day more

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collectors enter the hobby every day a

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new face is coming in and what do they

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do they research sets they get

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interested oh wow I love Twilight

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masquerade oh what's the set before that

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oh pal evolve that looks really cool hey

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you know what what was before palder

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evolved oh wow wow wow oh look I'm

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looking at Japanese 151 whatever it is

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whatever the timeline of wherever

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they're looking they get interested in

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some of the sets moving ahead you can

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even see the singles are going through

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an interesting period I'm on the

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Venusaur year graph and you can see this

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is currently sitting at $41 with the low

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being $35 it's being really stable so

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that looks that graph looks like it's

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going up down up down that's actually a

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very stable price you can see the lowest

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in the market it was ever was 35 and the

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highest point in the market was 47

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there's some pretty good stability with

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this Venusaur I do think a reprint would

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push this Venusaur below its $35 low

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given the fact that that's how usually

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it works with reprints so if you've

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never experienced the reprint before

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what usually happens is yes seal tumbles

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down but again the singles also tumble

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down an enormous amount we saw that with

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gutina V with losten we saw it with

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Lugia V Whenever there is a reprint the

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singles do get drawn down immensely and

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we can also see what happened when

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Japanese 151 got reprinted all the

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master ball reverse holos also got drawn

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down it calms the market down and

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reprints are advantageous if you are

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looking to collect your cards so if

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you're a collector and you want to buy

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some of your singles that you've missed

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out on time it with reprints time it a

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month after the reprint because you get

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Sensational prices for the cards and

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they don't stay forever same thing here

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when we're on the Charizard I'm going to

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pull that into the year graph and you

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can also see that the Charizard's major

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high was 1 1 34 and it's currently

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sitting at 128 it's pretty much at its

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new high a reprint would most certainly

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pull this down and I think it would

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reach a new low depending how big the

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reprint is right you can also see the1

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booster bundle these things are going

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absolutely crazy and you can see I'm

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pulling this in a year graph that is

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looking like it is you can see now here

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that's just climbing climbing climbing

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sitting at 44 us though do I think even

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if a reprint happened and it dropped

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down would it affect its overall value

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no I think overall in the very long term

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a re print would have very little kind

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of damage with its overall value of the

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set very similar to evolving Skies no

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one's really saying oh evolving Sky had

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too many reprints and now the price has

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gone staying low no when the set's in

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demand it's in demand it's just as

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simple as that and of course you can

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also see the Zapdos from Pokémon 151

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same thing its lowest point in the

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market was $31 its highest ever point in

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the market was $43 and it's currently

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sitting at $40 again these 151 singles

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are interesting with the stability that

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they have it's really good to see this

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Market stability though again reprints

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would draw it down though I do not think

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that you have to worry too much if a

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reprint happens if you've invested in

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this set because a lot of people that

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have invested in this set already bought

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it when it was below retail price the

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people buying it now are the people

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foming if that was you you got to just

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get a little bit more skilled in this

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game right now you are buying out a

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cycle it happens though there is a lot

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of ways on how to invest in Pokémon

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properly and I explain that within this

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video on screen right here within this

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video I uncover the ways to invest in

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time your markets properly timing is a

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very big thing in Pokémon investing and

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learning how to time your purchases

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properly is pretty much one of the main

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keys to being successful in this game if

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you want to watch that video click that

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video on the screen and I'll see you

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