Andrew Tate #1 - (Narcissism) - Therapist Reacts
Summary
TLDRTherapist Dr. Kirk Honda reacts to Andrew Tate's views on money, relationships, and gender roles. Tate asserts money's insignificance and the ownership of wealth by external entities. He humorously discusses his dating life and love for reality. Tate's traditional stance on gender roles, suggesting women should obey men, is criticized by Dr. Honda, who highlights the absurdity of such oppressive beliefs. The conversation delves into Tate's narcissistic tendencies, his need for control, and potential insecurities, offering insights into his controversial persona.
Takeaways
- 🎙️ The speaker, Dr. Kirk Honda, a therapist and professor, reacts to Andrew Tate's views on money, relationships, and gender roles.
- 💵 Andrew Tate suggests that money becomes less meaningful as one accumulates more of it, and at a certain point, individuals may not even know or control what they have.
- 💬 Tate's communication style is described as charismatic, assertive, and enigmatic, which might appeal to some but is also confusing to Dr. Honda.
- 🚶♂️ Tate expresses a shift in his perception of dating dynamics, from men selling themselves to women to women trying to sell themselves to accomplished men.
- 🤔 Dr. Honda finds Tate's statements about relationships and gender roles problematic, highlighting the importance of equality and mutual respect in relationships.
- 🏡 Tate emphasizes the beauty of traditional family structures but controversially asserts that women should obey men, which Dr. Honda criticizes as regressive and oppressive.
- 🧐 Dr. Honda speculates that Tate's behavior might stem from insecurity, past trauma, or a desire for control, possibly influenced by witnessing abusive dynamics in his family of origin.
- 💬 The conversation reveals a power struggle between Tate and his date, with Tate frequently employing tactics to undermine or correct his date's statements.
- 🤝 Despite the tension, the date attempts to maintain a cordial atmosphere, with his date trying to find common ground and understanding.
- 🔄 The script showcases a cycle of interaction where Tate asserts dominance or superiority, while Dr. Honda provides psychological insights into such behavior.
Q & A
What is Dr. Kirk Honda's profession?
-Dr. Kirk Honda is a therapist and professor.
What does Andrew Tate claim about money?
-Andrew Tate claims that money isn't real and once you reach a certain level of wealth, you don't even know what you have, and outside entities may own what you have.
How does Dr. Kirk describe Andrew Tate's communication style?
-Dr. Kirk describes Andrew Tate's communication style as charismatic, assertive, and poetic, often speaking in riddles.
What does Andrew Tate say about love and relationships?
-Andrew Tate believes that love and relationships are beautiful as long as they are done correctly and a woman obeys like she's supposed to.
What does Dr. Kirk think about Andrew Tate's views on gender roles?
-Dr. Kirk finds Andrew Tate's views on gender roles to be oppressive, illogical, and unscientific, suggesting that they are remnants of traditional and sexist ideologies.
What does Dr. Kirk suggest about Andrew Tate's personality?
-Dr. Kirk suggests that Andrew Tate might suffer from narcissistic personality traits or is adopting a persona for media attention.
What does Andrew Tate say about his own confidence?
-Andrew Tate claims that his confidence comes from adversity, stating that everything that doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
What does Dr. Kirk think about the way Andrew Tate discusses his job on the date?
-Dr. Kirk finds it strange and potentially a sign of insecurity that Andrew Tate is reluctant to discuss his job and accuses the date of possibly working for the government.
What does Andrew Tate imply about the woman he is dating when he asks if her family is 'crazy'?
-Andrew Tate implies that the woman might be 'crazy' due to her Caribbean heritage, which Dr. Kirk interprets as a derogatory and unfounded assumption.
What does Dr. Kirk think about Andrew Tate's comments on faith and religion?
-Dr. Kirk views Andrew Tate's comments on faith and religion as an attempt to put the woman on the defensive and questions his right to label others as 'lazy' for their personal spiritual practices.
What does Andrew Tate mean when he says he is a 'man of god'?
-Andrew Tate claims to be a 'man of god' but also exhibits controlling and traditional views on gender roles, which Dr. Kirk finds contradictory to the teachings of most religions.
Outlines
💸 Money and Material Possessions
Dr. Kirk Honda, a therapist and professor, reacts to Andrew Tate's views on money and possessions. Tate suggests that money is not real and that once a person has a lot of it, they don't know what they have and don't truly own it. Instead, outside entities may own it. Tate appears charismatic and assertive, but Dr. Honda finds his statements confusing, speculating that Tate might be saying he doesn't have a lot of money but has connections or know-how to get what he wants. Dr. Honda also touches on Tate's views on love and relationships, noting that Tate seems to enjoy speaking in poetic riddles, which might appeal to some but is off-putting to others.
🚹🚺 Gender Roles and Relationships
Dr. Honda criticizes Andrew Tate's traditional views on gender roles and relationships. Tate believes in a 'natural order' where women should obey men and criticizes non-traditional relationships. Dr. Honda refutes these ideas as oppressive and unscientific, emphasizing the freedom of individuals to choose their relationships and lifestyles. He suggests that Tate's views might appeal to those with a traditional mindset but are rooted in outdated and harmful beliefs about women's subservience.
🧐 Narcissism and Coping Mechanisms
Dr. Honda explores the possible psychological reasons behind Andrew Tate's behavior and statements. He suggests that Tate's narcissistic tendencies could stem from emotional neglect in childhood, leading to a coping mechanism of self-validation and a belief in his own superiority. This behavior is characterized by a constant need to assert dominance and control, possibly as a reaction to feelings of insecurity and a lack of emotional support. Dr. Honda explains how this dynamic can lead to significant distress for the individual, who may struggle with maintaining a positive self-image without external validation.
🌍 Establishing Superiority and Identity
In this section, Dr. Honda discusses Andrew Tate's need to establish himself as superior or special, as evidenced by Tate's introduction of himself as coming from a prestigious area and his mixed heritage. He notes that Tate's conversation style might be an attempt to assert power or control in the interaction, possibly as a result of insecurities or a desire to manage how others perceive him. Dr. Honda also considers the possibility that Tate's behavior could be a learned technique from the 'pickup artist' community, which often involves negging or putting the other person down to establish dominance.
🙊 Lies, Truth, and Insecurity
Dr. Honda observes Andrew Tate's reluctance to open up or share personal information, suggesting a possible insecurity or a desire for control over the narrative. Tate's insistence on lying about his profession and his suspicion of the interviewer hint at deeper issues with trust and vulnerability. Dr. Honda speculates that this behavior could be a defense mechanism or a reflection of Tate's need to maintain an image of power and control, even in a context as seemingly casual as a first date.
🏆 Defining Success and Spirituality
In this part, Dr. Honda reflects on Andrew Tate's tendency to define and judge others, particularly in terms of their spiritual practices and commitment. Tate criticizes the interviewer for being a 'lazy Christian,' despite her expression of faith. Dr. Honda questions the motivation behind Tate's need to categorize and judge, suggesting it might stem from a desire to assert his own beliefs and values as superior. He also points out the irony in Tate's self-identification as a kickboxer despite not training, highlighting a potential double standard in how he views himself versus others.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Money
💡Charismatic
💡Riddles
💡Insecurity
💡Traditional Gender Roles
💡Narcissism
💡Pickup Artist
💡Power Dynamics
💡Self-Esteem
💡Emotional Neglect
💡Manipulation
Highlights
Andrew Tate's perspective on money being unreal and the concept of ownership questioned.
Dr. Kirk Honda's introduction as a therapist and professor reacting to Andrew Tate's views.
Andrew Tate's charismatic and assertive communication style discussed.
The idea that with enough money, one doesn't know or own what they have.
Dr. Kirk's interpretation of Tate's statement about money and possessions.
Andrew Tate's claim of being in love with reality and his defiance towards haters.
Tate's poetic and riddle-like speech style, which may appeal to some or be off-putting to others.
Dr. Kirk's observation that Tate's media persona is self-confident and potentially wise, yet enigmatic.
Andrew Tate's controversial statements about gender roles and traditional relationships.
Dr. Kirk's critique of Tate's views on women obeying men and traditional gender roles.
Tate's assertion that society functions best with traditional gender roles.
Dr. Kirk's explanation of how traditional gender roles can be harmful and outdated.
Andrew Tate's analogy comparing relationships to selling oneself.
Dr. Kirk's analysis of Tate's need for control and power in relationships.
Tate's claim of being a 'street dog' with a mixed-up accent and background.
Dr. Kirk's commentary on Tate's defensive and evasive answers during the dating show.
Andrew Tate's joke about being a shoe salesman as a potential cover-up for his real profession.
Dr. Kirk's insight into Tate's use of 'negging' and power dynamics during the date.
Tate's questioning of the woman's faith and his definition of 'lazy Christianity'.
Dr. Kirk's critique of Tate's judgmental attitude towards others' religious practices.
Andrew Tate's demand for the woman to promise honesty and his subsequent lies.
Dr. Kirk's analysis of Tate's behavior as a possible coping mechanism for past neglect or abuse.
Tate's narcissistic tendencies and their impact on his interactions.
Dr. Kirk's closing thoughts on the importance of self-care and the impact of the conversation.
Transcripts
hey dessert listeners a lot of you have
been asking me to react to andrew tate
so let's get to it my name is dr kirk
honda i'm a therapist under professor
let's see what he says money isn't real
if you know what you have you don't have
much and once you reach a certain level
of money you don't even know what you
have and you certainly don't own what
you have
outside entities which you may have a
stake in own what you have people who
have a lot of money understand okay so
right off the bat
he
seems to be charismatic in his approach
and his look in his speech style he's
assertive
i don't even unders let's rewind this
what did he say money isn't real
if you know what you have you don't have
much
money isn't real
if you know what you have you don't have
much is he saying we should all go back
to a simple life or is it the opposite
what is he saying a level of money you
don't even know what you have and you
certainly don't own what you have
outside entities which you may have a
stake in own what you have people who
have a lot of money understand it's very
difficult for me to even say how much
money i have but i can have anything i
want anytime i want i really literally
have no idea what he's saying if i was
to take a guess he's saying that he
doesn't have a lot of money but he can
have anything he wants because he has
connections or know-how or something i
think that's what he's saying and i've
had some bad dates how do you think
you've done on the date i don't really
give a [ __ ] wait so this is this is the
video that people were saying have been
sending me for several weeks now and
it's a dating show i'm roger tate the
third
i'm here because uh i was invited is
that a good answer
yeah i was invited so i thought i'd come
along why not there's already love in
the universe i've already found love i
found love with reality my friend i'm
already in love i'm in love with waking
up every day you know there's people who
are trying to stop me breathing and
they've yet to succeed i'm already in
love love so i will observe that he is
one of those
media individuals
who or just a person i suppose you could
run into him at a party and still make
the same observation that he likes to
talk in a poetic riddle sort of way
it's
self-confident i will say it might
appeal to a certain group of people who
might say oh he seems to know things and
maybe he does maybe he's very wise i'll
reserve judgment i really i've seen a
little bit of
people have been talking about him in
the news like he's been canceled or
something he's no longer platformed
because of his problematic ideas i'm a
little curious but anyway but i will
observe that if i met him at a party i
wouldn't want to hang out with him very
long if he talked in riddles or i would
ask him like what are you trying to say
to me and if he would level with me
because i i don't know i like playing
speak just speak to me plainly so we can
have exchange of ideas instead of me
always wondering what you're saying
life's great i used to think that it was
the man
and i was actually accurate thinking
that it was the man who was selling
himself to the woman but once you reach
a certain
level of achievement as a man it's the
woman who's trying to sell herself to
you
okay so he's laughing so maybe he's just
making a joke but
why does anyone have to sell in any i
mean i suppose when you're going out on
a date you're presumably on average both
trying to sell yourself to someone plus
we don't want to be heteronormative but
to generalize to three and a half or
four billion people on the planet
every heterosexual relationship is this
way every man is this way every woman is
this way every dating relationship is
this way
is let's just say not borne out in the
data i've handled a bunch of of
difficult situations in my life i'm i'm
not intimidated let's leave it at that
we'll see how it goes i would say i'm
pretty confident yeah overall yeah i
think uh confidence is born from
adversity right everything that doesn't
kill you makes you stronger oh i see so
he was reacting to
going on a show where he is being
scrutinized he's being vetted by someone
who was looking for a dude to date and
so he's saying i used to think that
it was the man's job to sell himself to
a woman but now tables are turned
because i'm an awesome dude and so i'm
above it it just reminds me of kids in
the in middle school all of us really
like
yeah i you know i could take it or leave
it whatever and you just know that
they're pretty desperate for acceptance
and love can cheyenne ask you whatever
she likes anything she likes find the
most difficult question on the planet
tell her to throw a question card away
write a new one i'm ready
very good i better struggle which is
obviously impossible so she should at
least try to make me struggle i spent my
life fighting in the cage i'm not scared
of her i think relationships are a
beautiful thing i think that the synergy
between men and women are a beautiful
thing if they are correctly collaborated
i think that that's what makes society
function i think that's what makes the
world function i think that men men and
women falling in love and having
children and having families are very
very beautiful things as long as it's
done correctly as long as a woman obeys
like she's supposed to i was wondering
where that was headed because it sounded
along those lines but then he just flat
out says that women are supposed to obey
men he was using
phraseology from conservatives and
traditionalists and sexists who will say
that
the
nature the natural order of things is
when men and women have children you
shouldn't have gay relationships you
shouldn't have women who aren't
with a man who don't have children these
are absurd illogical unscientific
oppressive notions that are just
ridiculous on his face i mean if i'm
sure i don't have to explain why that's
ridiculous to any anyone everyone has
the freedom to choose what they want to
do and if someone wants to have kids
they can have kids if they want to have
a traditional relationship and they have
the freedom to make a choice otherwise
then they can make that people can have
whatever relationship they want the path
to happiness and goodness and you notice
that he says that a well-functioning
society is when
we
have that and i will say that according
to whom so if you're a man and you are
interested in power and you're insecure
which is why you're interested in power
and you want things to be predictable
and you come from a traditional mindset
then yeah you want things to be
conservatively traditional you want
things to be the way that they were in
the 50s when women had to obey or else
they would be all sorts of consequences
that i won't get into that i imagine you
can imagine women who were being abused
couldn't go to the police they couldn't
go to their family they couldn't go to
society sometimes they didn't even have
access to these things so there were all
sorts of uh
you know things in place to keep women
in place to keep women as subservient
and so as a man just being born a man
you were just given this power given
this privilege you could pretty much do
whatever you wanted to to women and get
away with it we're emerging out of that
of course and the only reason why you
would want that privilege is if you were
insecure or you're a psychopath or a
statist you want to harm other people
you want to control other people because
for myself i don't want that privilege
you could you could hand that to me and
say look you could press this button and
i will make your wife subservient to you
you could do whatever you want to to her
and everyone will support you i would
say i don't want that why don't i want
that well it's because i don't need it
and i don't have a desire to harm anyone
plus i want a partner who's equal who is
on my level and when she loves me it
feels like a choice instead of being
forced into it so that's what i would
want when i ask my wife you know what do
you want to have for dinner i don't want
her to go like well what do you want for
dinner i want her to think about what
she wants for dinner and we can please
each other and find a common ground and
that's what any rational human wants and
you would only want otherwise if you are
insecure attachment insecure traumatized
indoctrinated worried on some level so
then he just flat out says that he wants
women to obey let's ruin that function i
think that's what makes the world
function i think that men men and women
falling in love and having children and
having families are very very beautiful
things as long as it's done correctly as
long as a woman obeys like she's
supposed to and uh i think the world can
be a beautiful place as long as gender
roles are not misconstrued or
misunderstood so if sean doesn't
understand that i'll correct her quickly
and we'll fix the world and we can move
on and then tying it into traditional
gender roles which are fine if people
choose them
if people want them which many people do
but if you don't want them then you
don't do it
very nice to meet you
hello hi you're really nice thank you
let's do two kisses one
two nice to meet you very nice to meet
you andrew tate what's your name andrew
nice to meet you um cheyenne
or shawn reynolds if you're doing
something cheyenne reynolds we're gonna
do official yeah okay nice to meet you
cheers
[Music]
i think she's uh attractive woman she's
good looking
friendly demeanor um
i can tell she thinks she knows things
so i look forward to correcting her
my god
the amount of insecurity dripping off
this human being
now might he suffer from a personality
disorder that actually makes him believe
this right so there are two paths to
this distorted way of thinking one is is
that you actually believe it
consciously and the other one is that
you're consciously making a choice to
adjust for something that you feel like
you have to going back to middle school
you're in seventh grade and you feel
ugly and unacceptable and unpopular and
you know it and someone comes up to you
and says you your outfit looks stupid
and you actually believe your outfit
looks stupid and so
you resort by to saying something that
you know isn't true even to you and you
say well actually this is popular in
europe now it's trending in europe or
something you know you're lying you know
that you don't believe it but you're
just hoping that it will fly that people
will think you're actually cool so
that's one path another path is where
you
actually consciously believe that you're
better than other people and this is a
coping mechanism that is available to
humans when we're suffering from
generally speaking neglect emotional
neglect growing up where we're one year
two years old three years old and we
want attention we want attunement we
want people to love us and to accept us
and to be there for us and when they're
not we only have a certain set of coping
styles a certain group of personality
traits that are available to us to
protect us from the terribleness of
being neglected and being alone because
it's very scary to be a child in and of
itself but it's particularly scary when
you have no one to run to that will
reassure us and hold us and hold our
hand or hug us
one of the available coping mechanisms
is what we call narcissistic personality
which is a choice that children will
make and most of this is subconscious of
of course but over time the child
decides you know what i'm going to pull
away from people i'm going to push away
from people and i'm going to depend on
the self because i obviously can't
depend on it on anyone else which is a
big bummer even though on the inside i
still desperately long for someone to
love me and accept me and hold me but
i'm gonna back away because every time i
reach out emotionally and behaviorally i
get rejected or most of the time i get
rejected so it's just better to turn
away so i'm going to kind of force
myself to do that and in order to do
that i have to suppress my emotions i
have to not even really notice them and
over time when you don't pay attention
to your body which is where your
emotions are coming from it's actually
hard to even notice your emotions you at
the age of 35 after developing this way
neurologically when you're young you
might be asked what are you feeling and
the person will say nothing i don't feel
anything even though on the inside they
actually are feeling a lot of emotions
but they just neurologically aren't used
to paying attention to it so anyway so
they turn away but they still need some
source of self-esteem and no one is
praising them no one is paying attention
to them no no one was is validating
their existence so they turn to the self
they validate themself they say i'm
awesome i'm the best well two-year-olds
three-year-olds four-year-olds they
don't have a very gray nuanced point of
view of the world in themselves they
have a very black and white view so they
resort to a exaggerates you and you know
it's okay to have self-esteem to be like
you know i'm an okay person well when
you're three you don't have that nuance
you say i'm the best and you'll see kids
do this all the time you know i'm the
best drawer or i'm the best runner
because they're black and white thinkers
and they're they're trying on an
identity they're trying on self-esteem
but when you need
to resort to this source of self-esteem
and you're the only person that is
validating you then you adopt this black
and white thinking you retain it into
adulthood where you are the best you
consciously believe you are the best you
are amazing you're better than everyone
and if you're not better than everyone
because you're a black and white thinker
you are worse than everyone you're
either superior or inferior there's a
constant battle and vacillation between
these two states for the narcissistic
individual in order to remain in the
superior spot they have to convince
themselves and convince everyone around
them that they are superior because as
long as they're establishing themselves
as superior and they believe other
people see them as superior then they
can kind of relax they're very
distressed individuals though because
even when they are in that superior spot
even if they sustain that for a while
there's this underlying notion that no
one loves them and no one cares about
them and there's the added perhaps more
important stress of their needs are
never being addressed their needs for
affection their needs for love their
needs for emotional crying emotional
dependency and they've never had those
needs met sufficiently throughout their
entire life since the day they were born
so they're just a massive ball of
distress and lack of getting their needs
back always running on the treadmill
trying to stay superior in other
people's eyes and in their own eyes
because it distracts them from from
everything else and it reassures them
and as soon as that narcissistic supply
dries up they immediately fall into the
the black and white snare they
immediately fall into the i'm all bad
and they fall apart and i've seen people
when they make that transition and it is
not pretty they
completely decompensate they don't know
who they are they're untethered from
reality they're not schizophrenic but
they're very distraught very much in
distress and so there's good reasons why
they are frequently establishing
themselves as superior it can be
annoying to be around those people but
to these individuals it's very
distressing now there is a spectrum from
people that are very narcissistic
and moderately or mild now i want to be
clear not diagnosing anyone of course
because when i do diagnose people with
an artistic personality disorder i
assess them for weeks if not months and
they voluntarily come to my office and
tell me what i believe to be truthful
responses to questions and have
conversations i experience them in their
relationship and through that assessment
i can confidently conceptualize
individuals with this disorder the other
thing i'll say is that some public
figures will adopt a narcissistic
persona because it sells that's usually
how life works
finally see a man that makes an effort
how are you i'm good thank you yeah okay
where are you from i'm american but i
lived in england for a long time i lived
in a very prestigious part of the uk i
don't know if you've ever heard of luton
very prestigious yeah yeah number one
luton okay
was not expecting that no idea what
luton is but
he is right out the gate establishing
himself being from a very prestigious
area so we will
note that in his opening introduction
trying to establish himself as special
in some way perhaps superior so i was in
luton for a while and now i live in
europe so i've just come in yeah okay
because your accent it's like really
different than that it's pretty mixed up
i'm like a street dog my dear i've been
here i've been there half american half
english half luton half everything else
a bit of a mix never mix that's cool how
did you get here today
i flew in i flew in this morning flew in
it's different it's like different yeah
yeah yeah jump on the jet
who flew in on a jet
who is this guy
what about you you have a mix no yeah my
family were caribbean and english so the
caribbean side's the crazy side or the
english or the english side's the crazy
side um i'd say the caribbean's the fun
side they're a bit surprised so you're
fun and crazy not crazy
it's the beginning of the day you can't
lie now it's a date so
people are going to have small talk in
their particular way
but
i'll note that right out of the gate
prior to the date he's talking about
women being
under control
and that they need to obey men
and
you could argue that he either
consciously or unconsciously knows that
by
negging her if you study the pickup
artist community like i have because i
had clients who would come to me and
then i've had a lot of people
right into the podcast from the pickup
artist community talking about their
experience and it's varied but not great
overall in terms of the indoctrination
in terms of certain ideas anyway point
the manusphere but anyway so for
him he is establishing like well which
side of your family is the crazy side
meaning that you must be crazy which is
another
notion i don't know if this is where
he's coming from
the echo chamber and the brainwashing
within that echo chamber that if you
have a beautiful woman then she must be
crazy that is a ridiculous notion on his
face which i don't have to deconstruct
but
i don't know if that's who's come from
or and or he's coming from a place of
putting her on her heels that she has to
she's now in a position where she has to
establish herself
as not crazy she is guilty before proven
innocent right she and it might be also
another technique that he uses and who
knows maybe again it's just him making
small talk but
he could also be using this as a as a
foundation to say if later on she is
bothersome to him he could say oh that's
your caribbean side coming out and then
again she's in a position of having to
defend herself i don't know let's just i
guess do i look like i'd lie to you
yes
i'm not lying actually you're not a liar
everything you tell me for the rest of
this episode is gonna be a complete
truth yeah promise me yeah say i promise
i promise i really promise
you'll see honest faults and opinions
all right we'll see yeah again
there's a unidirectional demand there
she says you know i'll tell you the
truth and he is very pointed about that
i'm guessing he's been down a road like
this before and knows he's going to get
into some conflict we see him looking
away a lot lack of eye contact she's
looking at his eyes he has
sunglasses on when he's inside maybe he
has an eye condition i don't know but
we'll see where that heads it's a again
it's a there's a there's a power issue
here she's not exhibiting any
power issue any power language he he is
it's
people who do that usually feel
powerless um so what do you do let me
think of a lie give me a second no you
can't learn
you have to tell the truth i don't just
tell the truth why this we already
agreed you're telling the truth there's
only one of us can tell the truth one of
us can lie that's not good stuff i'm a
shoe salesman i sell shoes socks shoe
accessories polish etc etc yeah i sell
shoes okay so i don't know if he's lying
right now or not but i will say that's a
very strange way to have a conversation
on a first date unless he thinks this is
funny i don't think she sees it if i
would just imagine this would be
confusing yeah um so what do you do let
me think of a lie give me a second no
you can't learn
the other possibility is that he's
insecure about his job and so he doesn't
want to talk about that i don't know you
have to tell the truth i don't just tell
the truth why this we already agreed
you're telling the truth there's only
one of us can tell the truth one of us
can lie that's not good i'm a shoe
salesman i sell shoes socks shoe
accessories polish etcetera etcetera
yeah i sell shoes yeah
i'm doing all right yeah surviving sold
two pairs of shoes yesterday life's good
okay that's good
he's a liar
so tell me a bit about you andrew i'm
not comfortable opening up too much i
really yeah because you know you might
work for
john law and the government no
i have to be careful what i say oh so
it's not commitment issues right off the
bat just regular he agreed to do this he
flew in from out of town to be on the
show to date this woman right off the
bat just regular questions
icebreakers if you will and he's saying
he's suspicious and he has to be careful
to talk about things which i don't know
what that means is he actually
suspicious of that question or
is he covering something up is he is
this a power play is it a weird idea of
a joke is he trying to have some banter
with her
i i don't know but
it's notable i'm curious where this is
going it's not that's not commitment
issues or just like legality issues oh
okay i like to go to church i'm a man of
god play scrabble do you have faith
okay this is good this is an interesting
conversation that we can have on on
camera which is which is as i'd say my
personal journey with god is between me
and god so i'm not one of those people
that like it's like yes i go to church
or yes i do this
don't you think that's a bit like lazy
christianity no not really because for
me i believe in again putting her on her
heels he accuses her of something
basically saying you're a lazy christian
which she didn't mention being christian
at all
but
she said she has faith and she doesn't
go to church i guess maybe the word
church would maybe tip off christianity
i don't know but it's a technique or a
tendency or something he could have
learned that maybe this is just his way
i don't know but we will note if i were
her i would say okay so you've accused
me
uh you've you've lied to me or at least
you've implicated you've implied you've
lied you've now called me a lazy
christian knowing nothing about me
i've told you one sentence about my
spirituality are you okay
does this
do you want to talk about do you not
like me is there something you want to
talk with me about
love and i believe in faith and i don't
think it's just one
religion that you need to follow you
know i've got friends that are muslim i
agree i've got friends that are
christian you know i've got friends that
are spiritual so i don't
put myself in one category i understand
and i respect that completely but don't
you think out of respect for god himself
whether you're in dubai and you go to
the mosque or you're in england you go
to the church you should get up early on
a sunday despite all the booze and get
up and take an hour out of your life and
just show some respect so i'm guessing
this either has to do with him
projecting himself on god and because
he's saying don't you think you should
be respecting god since he said earlier
he's a traditionalist which has to do
probably with wanting to have power over
women because he's insecure and he's had
a bad track record with relationships i
don't know
or well another path to this actually
and i've seen this before i've treated
people many people like him honestly i
mean not exactly of course but similar
similar seeming anyway and one of the
paths to this is actually witnessing a
lot of strife in one's parents there's a
lot of different pathways but one one
pathway is that you have a
father who is abusive to the mother and
the father is also abusive to you as a
child and
you have a lot of mixed feelings about
what's happening on one hand you hate
your dad for abusing you of course but
over time you start to hate your mom for
not standing up for you in fact you
might be closer to your mom emotionally
because
she's more approachable and so you feel
like your dad is the enemy and he's he's
distant but you really long for
closeness with your mom and you feel
more able to be angry at her because she
won't abuse you you can't be angry at
your dad because he's going to overpower
you you can be angry at your mom so you
might consciously be angry at your mom
but unconsciously actually really want
to be angry you're dead so you displace
it to your mom and you start to hate
your mom even though she doesn't deserve
it and you're also adopting the
attitudes of the abuser you're actually
taking on the mindset of the abuser
because it's a pathway to power and to
acceptance so you end up maybe even
abusing your mom emotionally and maybe
physically and then over time you grow
up and you just have this intense need
to establish power over women because as
a child you had this fantasy that if you
could overpower your mom you could tell
her to stand up for you or leave your
dad and thus you would be safe because
so really you're just running away from
the abuse but your conscious thought is
i want to control women you see so
there's a there's a pathway to that and
it can be really quite desperate for the
adult individual it's not felt they
don't know that's where it's coming from
but they just have a felt sense of
anxiety when they're not in control or
when they see situations where there
isn't that control over women because
they're transferring their past on to
what's happening now no because
everyone's journey is with god is
personal you can be a lazy spiritualist
a lazy christian you can be a lazy
kickboxer right i'm a kickboxer i don't
train okay bro
again
why would you want to define other
people's lives
and what gives you the right so someone
that considers himself a christian or
whatever and doesn't go to church
you andrew tate define that person as
lazy that implies that they want to go
to church but they lack the energy or
the commitment or something maybe it's
something different or even getting to
kickboxing
is he a ki he's mentioned being in the
ring is he is he a kickboxer you could
define yourself as a kickboxer and not
work out very often you're just you're
just like yeah you know what i like to
do it occasionally it's more of a side
hobby than anything else and that's what
i like it and to be in in my life and
according to him you're not a real
kickboxer you're a lazy kickboxer and
what's it to you and that's really what
you have to just ask yourself like if
you experience someone like this like
what is it to you why is it so important
to you what is
personally at stake for you that someone
else doesn't go to the gym all the time
or that someone doesn't go to church
what is it to you there must be
something in this for you that is making
you upset that is causing you to have
illogical statements like this i
understand you're lazy it's okay i'm not
lazy do you have time for god absolutely
that's good do you get up early on a
sunday completely that's good every
single sunday of course that's amazing
and i think that being religious is a
beautiful thing and i think that a lot
of people try and say they're spiritual
or they're religious in a way copping
out on the one hour a week it just feels
a bit lazy to me i think you can always
find an hour yeah no you definitely
could so maybe god sent me here to make
you go to church maybe maybe you're here
to enlighten me maybe so she's trying to
make the best of it which i'll applaud
her
i mean he's called her all sorts of
names he's called her crazy essentially
and lazy
and not a real christian
the posturing and the sunglasses and
she's trying to play along she's trying
to be nice so there's that but
yikes that's why yeah yeah and what kind
of man are you what's the spectrum i
need you to quantify it for me who's at
the bottom and who's at the top
why is there a bottom at the top
she said what kind of man are you yeah
if someone asked me that on a date i'd
be like can you give me a little bit
more detail on that question top and
bottom of course there's there's a
hierarchy to men he's at the top i'm
going to take a wild guess all right
well let's end it there and pick up next
time where we left off because i've been
yammering and yammering so
this video is getting a lot so tune in
next time when i continue watching this
video and everyone out there please take
care of yourself because you deserve it
you really really do
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