DNB vs MD/MS - The TRUTH (NEET PG 2024)

Summary

In this video, Dr. Ric duer addresses common concerns regarding the DNB (Diplomate of National Board) program, particularly for medical students unsure whether to pursue an MD or DNB at their rank. He discusses the importance of choosing the right branch over the college's reputation, the dilemma of whether to retake exams or accept a DNB position, and provides insights on making an informed decision about the hospital for DNB training. Dr. duer also shares his personal experience and offers advice on factors to consider when selecting a DNB hospital, emphasizing the need for hands-on experience and infrastructure.

Takeaways

• 😌 The speaker has been receiving many questions about DNB (Diplomate of National Board), especially regarding whether to pursue MD or DNB at certain ranks.
• 🏥 The speaker advises visiting hospitals to decide on a DNB hospital, emphasizing the importance of firsthand experience.
• 📈 With a rank of 5,700, the speaker was initially unsure about pursuing MD Medicine but eventually chose DNB after discussions with seniors and research.
• 🌟 The speaker stresses that the branch of study should be the top priority when choosing between MD and DNB, as it impacts one's career long-term.
• 🤔 The decision to take a drop (retake the exam) is personal and depends on individual circumstances and confidence in improving the rank.
• 🚫 The speaker warns against compromising on the branch for the sake of getting into a 'good' medical college.
• 🏆 For those who rank within 5K, it's advised to take the DNB in their first choice of branch, even if it's a first attempt.
• 🔄 If the rank is between 5K to 10K and it's the first attempt, considering a drop might be reasonable if there's strong motivation to improve.
• 🚑 For high-end branches like Medicine, DM, and Radio, if the rank is above 10K, the speaker suggests considering a drop if the goal is a prestigious institute.
• 📉 The passing percentage for DNB is lower and considered tougher than MD, but the speaker believes primary DNB candidates are well-prepared.
• 🏥 The speaker suggests visiting potential DNB hospitals to understand their offerings and not just rely on previous year's trends or rankings.

Q & A

What are the common doubts and questions regarding DNB that the speaker has been receiving?

The speaker has been receiving doubts and questions about DNB, particularly whether to pursue MD or DNB at certain ranks, the difficulty level and pass percentage of DNB, and details about the course curriculum including academics, rounds, and hands-on experience.

What is the speaker's advice for selecting a DNB hospital?

The speaker advises visiting the hospitals you are considering, especially those within your rank range, to get a firsthand experience and understand what each hospital offers.

Why was the speaker initially confused about their rank of 5,700?

The speaker was initially confused because they wanted to pursue medicine, but with a rank of 5,700, they realized they wouldn't get into MD medicine at a decent hospital, which led to the consideration of other options like MD Pediatrics or taking a drop.

What was the speaker's final decision regarding pursuing DNB or taking a drop after their internship?

After considering their options and discussing with seniors, the speaker decided to pursue DNB instead of taking a drop, as they felt it was the right decision at the time.

What is the most important factor to consider while approaching DNB counseling, according to the speaker?

The most important factor to consider while approaching DNB counseling is the branch of study, as it will stay with you for your lifetime and is more important than the city or the type of college.

What is the speaker's opinion on taking a drop after not getting a desired rank in the first attempt?

The speaker believes that taking a drop is a personal decision and depends on individual circumstances. They suggest considering factors like the rank, the branch, and personal motivation before deciding.

How does the speaker feel about the pass percentage for DNB exams?

The speaker acknowledges that the pass percentage for DNB exams is lower and it is tougher to pass compared to MD, but they also mention that primary DNB students prepare for it seriously as it is their degree exam.

What are the key points the speaker suggests considering when deciding to take DNB or MD in high-end branches?

The speaker suggests considering factors like the desire to practice or pursue super speciality (DM), the quality of the hospital and its facilities, and the potential for learning and exposure in the chosen branch.

Why does the speaker recommend visiting hospitals before deciding on a DNB program?

The speaker recommends visiting hospitals to get a clear understanding of what each hospital offers, as different hospitals have different pros and cons, and to make an informed decision based on personal priorities.

What is the speaker's advice for those who are considering DNB in branches like medicine, dermatology, or radio diagnosis?

For high-end branches like medicine, dermatology, or radio diagnosis, the speaker advises considering a drop if the rank is above 10K and the desired branch is not available, or taking DNB from a good city and institute if the rank is between 5 to 10K.

Outlines

00:00

🎓 Deciding Between MD and DNB

The speaker begins by addressing the common dilemma faced by medical students regarding whether to pursue an MD or DNB degree, especially at certain ranks. They discuss the difficulty of passing the DNB exam and the overall curriculum, including academics, rounds, and exposure. The speaker shares their personal experience of choosing a hospital for DNB, emphasizing the importance of visiting hospitals to make an informed decision. They recount their own journey, including their rank and the decision-making process, and how they gathered information about DNB from seniors and hospitals. The speaker concludes by introducing themselves as Dr. Ric duer and stating the video's focus on helping viewers approach counseling for DNB, with a focus on choosing the right branch as the top priority.

05:03

🤔 Navigating the Decision to Take a Drop or Pursue DNB

Dr. Ric duer delves into the complex decision of whether to take a drop year to improve exam scores or to proceed with DNB. They discuss the uncertainty and personal nature of this choice, sharing their own initial hesitation and the influence of peers and circumstances. The speaker acknowledges the increased competition and the pressure it puts on students, but ultimately suggests that the decision should be based on personal goals and confidence. They provide guidance on how to approach this decision, considering factors like rank, desired branch, and the potential for improvement. The speaker also touches on the implications of DNB versus MD for future job opportunities and the public perception of the degrees.

10:03

🏥 Choosing the Right DNB Hospital

In the final paragraph, Dr. Ric duer advises on selecting a DNB hospital, cautioning against relying solely on last year's rankings and cut-offs. They emphasize the importance of visiting potential hospitals to understand what each has to offer, as different hospitals provide varied experiences and opportunities. The speaker discusses the benefits and drawbacks of different hospitals and the need to make a personal decision based on individual priorities, such as academic interest, exposure, and facilities. They also address the passing rate for DNB exams, suggesting that while it may be lower than for MD, the primary DNB students are typically well-prepared. The speaker concludes by encouraging viewers to visit hospitals, make informed decisions, and reach out with any counseling-related questions.

Keywords

💡DNB

DNB stands for Diplomate of National Board, which is a postgraduate medical qualification in India. In the video, the speaker discusses the considerations for choosing DNB over MD (Doctor of Medicine), emphasizing the importance of the branch of medicine one wishes to pursue. The speaker's personal experience and advice revolve around the decision-making process for DNB, highlighting its significance in a medical career.

💡MD

MD refers to Doctor of Medicine, another postgraduate medical degree. The video script contrasts MD with DNB, discussing scenarios where one might be preferred over the other based on factors like rank in entrance exams, the hospital one gets into, and personal career goals. The speaker's narrative includes their own contemplation of pursuing MD Pediatrics versus DNB.

💡Rank

In the context of the video, 'rank' refers to the position a candidate secures in entrance exams, which determines their eligibility for specific medical programs and hospitals. The speaker uses their own rank of 5,700 to illustrate the challenges and choices they faced, such as whether to pursue DNB or consider a drop year to improve their rank.

💡Drop

A 'drop' in this context means to not join a medical program in a given year with the intention of reappearing for the entrance exam to improve one's rank. The speaker discusses the dilemma of taking a drop, weighing the risks and benefits, and shares their thoughts on different scenarios where a drop might be considered.

💡Branch

The term 'branch' in medical education refers to the specific field or specialty one chooses to study, such as medicine, pediatrics, or surgery. The video emphasizes the importance of choosing the right branch over the type of degree (DNB or MD) or the reputation of the college, as the branch will define one's medical career path.

💡Hospital

The hospital where a medical student does their postgraduate training plays a crucial role in their practical learning and exposure to clinical cases. The speaker advises visiting potential hospitals before making a decision, as different hospitals offer different experiences and facilities, which can impact one's medical education and career.

💡Pass Percentage

Pass percentage refers to the success rate of students in their final examinations. The script mentions concerns about the pass percentage in DNB programs, suggesting that it might be lower and more challenging compared to MD programs. The speaker addresses this concern by discussing the dedication and preparation required for DNB exams.

💡Academics

Academics in the context of the video pertains to the educational component of medical training, including theoretical knowledge, practical skills, and research. The speaker reflects on the academic rigor of DNB programs and how it compares to MD programs, noting the importance of a strong academic foundation for future medical practice.

💡Exposure

Exposure in medical education refers to the range and variety of clinical experiences a student gains. The speaker discusses the importance of choosing a hospital with good exposure to different cases and conditions, as this can significantly influence a student's learning and development as a medical professional.

💡Counseling

Counseling in this context refers to the process of guiding medical students through the decision-making process regarding their postgraduate education. The video is focused on counseling for DNB, providing insights and advice to help students navigate their options, including choosing the right branch, considering a drop, and selecting a hospital.

Highlights

Discussion on choosing between MD or DNB based on rank and personal preferences.

Addressing concerns about the pass percentage and difficulty in passing DNB exams.

Insights on the DNB curriculum, including academics, rounds, and interactive learning.

Guidance on selecting a DNB hospital, emphasizing the importance of personal visits.

Personal experience sharing by Dr. Ric duer on choosing DNB over MD.

Importance of prioritizing the branch of study over the hospital or college for DNB.

Advice on whether to take a drop year based on exam rank and personal goals.

Comparison of DNB and MD in terms of job opportunities and professional perception.

Recommendations for those with ranks between 5K to 10K on choosing DNB or MD.

Discussion on the passing rate of primary DNB exams and the preparation strategy.

Advantages of DNB in terms of pursuing higher education like DM.

Comparison of DNB and MD for those who wish to practice medicine without super speciality.

Importance of hands-on experience and infrastructure in medical colleges for learning.

Strategies for selecting a DNB hospital based on personal visits and rank range.

Emphasis on making informed decisions when choosing a DNB hospital.

Encouragement for viewers to ask questions and engage in the comment section for further counseling.

Transcripts

so hello everyone so lately I've been

receiving a lot of doubts and messages

regarding DNB especially like if at a

certain rank they should go for MD or

DNB and second most popularly asked

question about the pass percentage like

whether it is really difficult to pass

DNB and also about the course like

academics like

rounds

interactive

leur so about the overall curriculum

like exposure hands on and about the

hospitals like which hospital to take so

especially Hospital a lot of Juniors

have come to visit in my hospital so I

have met them like and that's the right

way to select a dnv hospital firstly

like you should visit hospitals

especially the hospitals which you are

thinking you might get like so last year

I got a rank of 5,700 and I was really

confused because I wanted to take

medicine like medicine was always my

first option and like but my second

third option was like any medical Branch

like I was very sure that I wanted a

medical Branch but yeah medicine was my

first option so when I got a rank of

5,700 so I realized like I'm not going

to get at a MD medicine at a decent

hospital so I was like pretty I was sure

I don't I can't take MD medicine like

with this score right now so I was

discussing with a lot of seniors like

whether I should go for MD Pediatrics or

should I take a drop because that was my

attempt with internship so definitely I

thought like if I'll give some time then

I can probably improve so at that time I

did not know much about DNB like I have

heard of dnv but I did not know much

about DMV so then like I came across the

lot of people suggested to me like dnv

like medical branches and then I started

doing my research like I Then I then

after that I met a lot of people at

various gnb hospitals in Mumbai and then

after finishing my internship I came to

Delhi then I met lot of dnbs in Deli

Hospital also so after being in DNB for

one year I would like to share my

experience and like how it you can use

it to approach your your counseling so

yeah hello everyone I'm Dr Ric duer

welcome to my channel in this video I'm

going to talk about like about

approaching your counseling in terms of

DNB so while approaching for counseling

the most important thing is Branch so

the first most important thing is Branch

like above City beat mdnb or beat any

government Medical College the first

priority should always be a branch so

like it's not like that if you're

getting a certain Branch at a very good

government hospital so you will take

that branch no it's a different thing

like if for someone if it does not work

out and they have to compromise on

Branch that's a totally different thing

but I'm saying that if you have an

option like if you are getting MD at a

peripheral college but you are getting

MD medicine at a peripheral college but

you are getting MD pediatrics at a good

college let's say and you want to stay

in a good college so do not compromise

on Branch so for example I receiv

received this comment like where they

were

medri so in that scenario I suggest

definitely go for dnv medicine so

because what happens is that like know

whatever course or like college or

Hospital you are choosing like that

stays with you for 3 years but your

branch is going to stay with you like

for your lifetime so especially if it's

a clinical Branch like you have to give

your day and night for the rest of your

life to that Branch so yeah of course

branch is a very so of course Branch

should be the first thing before

deciding so in krux if you getting DNB

in your first choice of Branch go for

DNB rather than going for your second

choice of branch and secondly I would

like to talk about whether or not one

should take a drop like there's no

clearcut answer for this like there's

nobody can decided for you like this is

the criteria to take a drop or not Jo

even after joining the NB I initially

thought of taking a drop and like I was

little not so I was little afraid of

taking a drop so I thought like let's

just give it another try along with DNB

so though I was happy with the hospital

but I was not satisfied with my need PG

score and frankly I felt like you know

intern a lot of my friends were

preparing so I

thought because when I joined hospital

so

mostly so I really felt that after

joining but the point was that

so the point is that it's a really it's

really like a trap you know you'll never

feel like you have given you 100 100%

and back then I was feeling like I

should have given try but now but now

this year when exam happened like so

many postponements happen

and so then I felt probably

especially because the competition has

increased so much this year so I think

so now I feel that I made the right

decision of taking DNB so it's like a

there's no clear-cut answer to it like

it just you have to go with your gut

feeling like what you want in life so

that even if you feel later on that no

that was not the right decision but at

least you will be very sure of it that

it was your own decision so of course if

you take a drop

so if I'm talking about like if you have

ranked 8K 7K 9k so you take that like

you take that belief in your so that you

believe in yourself and then take a drop

and there are many examples impr and

there are many

examples so of

course then they take next year so of

course that is a very bad space to be

[Laughter]

because so yeah it has to be a totally

personal decision but still like what

how you can approach to it is like so if

it was your drop attempt and you are

getting your desired branch no matter

like DNB MD just take it like don't

overthink it

college so don't if you're getting your

Desir brch then take it second option is

like if it was a first attempt so if

your rank is within 5K even if you want

radio Derma medicine so like I think so

within 5K like it's very risky to take a

drop so if within 5K if you are not

getting good MD especially for these

branches like MD like dma radio or

medicine because for other branches you

will get a good government Medical

College within 5,000 but for these

branches you definitely can take DMVs

from good cities secondly for someone

with a rank of 5 to

10K in their first attempt so when you

are at a 5 to 10K rank especially with

your internship a part of you is really

motivated and feels

confident 5 to 10 manage maybe next year

you can improve a lot that is a good

enough reason like if you have dream and

passion for doing it in the best

possible manner but there's a practical

side to it also like if your rank is 6k

7K and after improve

Pro because at the end of the day at 23k

you will again be confused MD L DMB l in

branches like radio Derma and medicine

and if you want other branches so you

could have taken it at 68 6 to 8K so

what I feel is that like up to 5K just

take it whether if it was a first

attempt or not so from 5 to 10K like huh

when you feel like you know the you feel

like you have managed to score 5 to 10K

rank with internship and you can really

do better next year so yeah if you

really feel that you should give a try

because you know what

canot yeah I could have done it so you

if it's your personal choice so if your

rank is above 10K and if you wanted

highend branches like I would not

suggest you to join that year because

DNB especially in branches so that will

be very periphery so there's no point

like especially if it was your first

attempt like above 10K if your desired

branches are like medicine dma radio

Pediatrics you can think of taking a

drop and if you wanted branches which

are available above 10K like ENT Opel or

even parac clinical branches so you

would definitely go for it for the

people between 5 to 10K rank who wants

these high-end branches so I would like

to make some points like so that it will

help you whether to whether you want to

take a drop or not so about DNB rology

first of all it is really good in DNB

because especially your high highend

hospitals Mach better secondly about DNB

or MD in terms of job opportunities

paper equivalent so it does not impact a

lot even because and thirdly because the

PE the point of people perception so

that does not play a very significant

role if you talk about DN radio and for

taking medicine

at a rank of 5 to 10K you want to take

medicine then there comes two categories

like if you want to practice medicine or

whether or not you want to take do DM or

pursue DM further so if you want to

pursue DM I would suggest to take DNB

firstly anywh you are going to going to

do DM so it does not

matter people

per so if you do DM so then that's

become your final degree you are going

to introduce yourself as like whatever

DM you are like DM Cardiology DM

neurology but if you want to eventually

take DM I think it's a very good path

because first of all you do not have

Bond so anyway if you want to pursue

further education so why waste one more

more year secondly you get sufficient

time so you can prepare for your

entrance exams and if you want to

practice medicine like you know you do

not want to do super speciality and you

want to practice medicine then at a rank

of 5 to 10K if you you feel like like

you if you are really motivated for a

very good Institute very popular

government Institute with very very

large exposure at the same time have

good facility the problem with

peripheral medical colleges are that

they do not have so much facility so

especially investigation higher

investigations there's not much learning

in medicine like I'll suggest do not

it's better to take dnv medicine from

good city and good Institute than taking

MD medic at a very peripheral Medical

College because they will there in

peripheral medical colleges you will not

get that much load even you get that

load like for any complicated case or

any like unique cases you will refer

them to higher centers and secondly

there will not be much infrastructure

and especially like so now yes now we

practice evidence-based medicine so

investigation play a very very important

role I know like learning clinical

skills is important especially for exams

third important point I would like to

talk about in context to DMV is that

about the passing rate so I do not think

like primary dnv passing percentage

especially medicine decent because the

thing is that MD people are also

eligible for DMB exams

and they already have their degree so

they just give an attempt for DNB exam

just to get additional degree so overall

passing percentage come because a lot of

time like the people who who are giving

who are not primary DNB so they do not

come well prepared for that exam but for

the primary DNB is like that is the exam

to get their degree so we prepare

accordingly from the final year but but

yeah I agree it's still tougher to pass

than MD there's less pass percentage but

yeah like at this point I can't give you

guarantee

because so yeah I can't comment on that

but yeah passing percentage

primary and last point I would like to

discuss is about how to select your DNB

hospital so like you cannot choose your

DNB Hospital like just by seeing the

last year cut offs rank CL and the

hospital which has closed at a higher

rank you will take that hospital because

different hospital has different things

to

offer

Pati

sector so there are benefits pros and

cons of each and every hospital after 3

top hospitals fix pattern mostly so you

have to decide for

yourselfi but let's

say because it was a typical corporate

hospital but on the other hand Hospital

exposure

but so so different people take

hospitals due to different reason for

example the hospital which I got in

round one has comparatively highest typ

from the hospital which I actually got

in my final round but for me like at

this point Sten was not my priority so

you have to decide Hospital accordingly

and secondly like you have to visit

hospital before deciding it like you

know just try to visit at least

hospitals which are falling within the

range of your rank like if your rank is

5K let's say so try at least visiting

your hospitals from 4 to 6K rank like

the hospitals which were closed in the

range of 4 to 6K

so that you will have an idea so DNB

hospitals may you cannot follow the

trend blindly like government Hospital

generally so many times we feel exactly

the

same but INB Hospital you have to

inquire it because

maybe certain

consultant who who used to take a lot of

academic interest but maybe

so you know it's keep changing you

cannot follow the trend so yeah do try

to visit those hospitals yourself and

make a informed decision so yeah I hope

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