I just found out this ONE SETTING can LOWER your FPS... so I did some Windows Benchmarks!!
Summary
TLDRThis video explores the impact of Windows power plans on CPU performance, particularly for AMD's Ryzen 9 CPUs with a dual CCD layout. The creator tests Windows 11 versions 2322 and 2422, comparing the 'Balanced' and 'High Performance' power plans. Surprisingly, 'Balanced' often outperforms 'High Performance' due to better CPU scheduling. The video also delves into manual CPU affinity settings for optimal gaming performance. Results vary by game, with some benefiting from using only one CCD, especially noticeable on CPUs with 3D V-Cache. The conclusion? For Ryzen 9 dual CCD CPUs, 'Balanced' mode or manual CCD tuning may offer better performance than 'High Performance' mode.
Takeaways
- 😲 The default 'Balanced' power plan in Windows may actually deliver better performance for certain Ryzen CPUs compared to the 'High Performance' plan.
- 🤔 Windows' CPU scheduling is inconsistent, leading to unpredictable performance in games depending on whether it uses one or both CCDs (Core Complex Dies).
- 🎮 In some games, manually setting the CPU to use only the first CCD can significantly improve performance, especially on CPUs like the Ryzen 9 7900X 3D.
- 📊 The 'High Performance' power plan showed a minor 0.7% performance increase on the Ryzen 9 9900X, but a decrease on the Ryzen 9 7900X 3D.
- 💻 Windows and AMD need to improve the chipset drivers and Windows scheduler to better optimize performance for dual CCD Ryzen 9 CPUs.
- 🔧 Manually setting game affinity to use only the first CCD can sometimes yield better performance, particularly in games that are sensitive to latency.
- 🕹️ Some games, like Counter Strike 2 and Cyberpunk 2077, perform better when limited to the first CCD, while others like Spider-Man Remastered benefit from both CCDs.
- 📈 Performance gains from tweaking power plans and CPU affinity can vary widely from game to game, with some showing significant improvements and others minimal differences.
- 💡 The video also serves as a reminder to test different power plans and CPU settings for individual games to find the optimal configuration for your specific CPU.
- 🎁 The creator received gaming mice from Pulsar as a result of their previous coverage, indicating the influence of content creation on product reception and the potential for brand engagement.
Q & A
What was the main focus of the video regarding Windows 11 and Ryzen CPUs?
-The video focused on testing the performance impact of different Windows 11 power plans on Ryzen CPUs, specifically Ryzen 9 7900X 3D and 9900X, and how they perform in various games.
What is a Dual CCD Ryzen CPU and why is it significant in the context of the video?
-A Dual CCD Ryzen CPU is a processor that has two core complexes. It's significant because these CPUs are sensitive to Windows power plans, and the video discusses how different power plans affect their performance.
What does the 'balanced' power plan setting mean in the context of Ryzen CPUs?
-In the context of Ryzen CPUs, the 'balanced' power plan setting is recommended by AMD for better performance due to scheduling, especially for CPUs with a dual CCD layout.
What was the unexpected finding regarding the 'high performance' power plan on Ryzen CPUs?
-The unexpected finding was that the 'high performance' power plan did not always deliver the best performance, and in some cases, it could lead to a loss in performance compared to the 'balanced' power plan.
How did the video test the impact of Windows power plans on game performance?
-The video tested the impact by running various games on different power plans and also by manually setting CPU affinity to use only the first CCD of each CPU to see how games perform when the scheduler isn't doing its job properly.
What was the performance result when games were locked to use only the first CCD on the tested CPUs?
-Locking games to use only the first CCD resulted in performance increases for both the 9900X and 7900X 3D CPUs, with the 7900X 3D showing a more significant improvement in some games.
What was the conclusion regarding the 'balanced' versus 'high performance' power plans for Ryzen 9 CPUs?
-The conclusion was that the 'balanced' power plan often provided better performance for dual CCD Ryzen 9 CPUs, while the 'high performance' plan was generally better for other CPUs without this layout.
What was the advice given for users with Ryzen 9 CPUs regarding power plans and game performance?
-The advice was to use the 'balanced' power plan for Ryzen 9 CPUs, especially those with a dual CCD layout, and to manually adjust game affinity to the first CCD for certain games to optimize performance.
What was the role of 3D V-Cache in the performance results of the Ryzen 9 7900X 3D CPU?
-The 3D V-Cache in the Ryzen 9 7900X 3D CPU contributed to better performance when games were locked to the first CCD, as it provided additional cache that was beneficial for gaming performance.
What was the overall recommendation for Ryzen 9 users based on the video's findings?
-The overall recommendation was for Ryzen 9 users, especially those with dual CCD or 3D V-Cache CPUs, to test different power plans and game settings to find the optimal configuration for their specific use case.
Outlines
💻 Windows Power Plans and CPU Performance
The paragraph discusses the impact of Windows power plans on CPU performance, specifically on Ryzen 9 CPUs with a dual CCD layout. The author challenges the common belief that the 'High Performance' power plan always delivers the best results, citing AMD's reviewer's guide which recommends 'Balanced' mode for better performance due to scheduling. The inconsistency of Windows scheduling is highlighted, where it may not optimally distribute tasks between the two CCDs, leading to potential performance loss. The author conducted tests with Windows 11 versions 2322 and 2422 and found that manually setting CPU affinity to use only one CCD could improve performance in certain games. The paragraph concludes with a mention of a sponsored discount code for Windows 11 keys.
🎮 Game Performance with Different Power Plans
This paragraph delves into the performance of various games when run under different Windows power plans and CPU configurations. The author details how certain games, like Cyberpunk 2077 and The Witcher 3, perform better when locked to the first CCD, while others, like Spider-Man Remastered, benefit from the dual CCD architecture due to increased RAM bandwidth. The paragraph also discusses the peculiarities of game optimization and how it affects CPU performance under different power plans. The author emphasizes the unpredictable nature of Windows scheduling and the need for manual tweaking to achieve optimal performance.
📊 Analysis of Game Performance Data
The paragraph presents a detailed analysis of game performance data across different CPUs and power plans. The author notes that while the 'High Performance' mode generally offers a slight advantage for the 9900x, the 'Balanced' mode is more suitable for the 7900x 3D due to its dual CCD architecture. The paragraph also discusses the impact of manually locking games to the first CCD, which can result in performance improvements for certain CPUs. The author concludes with an average performance comparison across 17 games, suggesting that the optimal power plan can vary significantly depending on the CPU and the specific game being played.
📦 Unboxing Gaming Mice and Closing Thoughts
In the final paragraph, the author shifts focus from the technical discussion of CPU performance to an unboxing segment featuring gaming mice from Pulsar. The author expresses gratitude for the sponsor and shares their excitement about the products received, which include themed mice and a mouse pad. The author also invites viewers to share their experiences with power plans and CPU performance in the comments, particularly those using older Ryzen 9 CPUs. The paragraph ends with a personal touch, as the author reflects on the enjoyment of creating content and looks forward to future videos.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Windows Power Plans
💡Dual CCD Ryzen CPUs
💡CPU Performance
💡Scheduling
💡Windows Affinity
💡3D V-Cache
💡Game Performance
💡CPU Affinity
💡Latency
💡Memory Bandwidth
💡Optimization
Highlights
The default Windows power plan may not always deliver the best performance for Ryzen CPUs.
AMD's reviewer's guide suggests using balanced mode for Ryzen CPUs with a dual CCD layout for better performance.
Windows' CPU performance can be inconsistent even on different clean installations.
Windows scheduling can be inefficient, sometimes using both CCDs when one would suffice for better performance.
Manually setting the CPU to use only the first CCD can increase performance in some games.
PL tail rein's performance is sensitive to latency, with high performance mode delivering lower performance.
CS2 performance is not heavily dependent on the number of cores or threads, with balanced mode outperforming high performance.
Cyberpunk 2077 benefits from being locked to the first CCD, with a significant performance increase.
Spider-Man remaster performance is enhanced by dual CCD Ryzen CPUs due to increased RAM bandwidth.
The Witcher 3 performance is similar between balanced and high-performance modes, with no gains from locking to the first CCD.
Assassin's Creed Origins is CPU limited, but results are similar for both CPUs.
Microsoft Flight Simulator loves cores, with balanced mode delivering the best results for both CPUs.
Fortnite results are within the margin of error for all power plans.
PUBG performance mode works better for the 9900x but worse for the 7900x 3D.
Aero Course performance is higher with balanced mode due to less latency.
Far Cry 6 prefers the high-performance power plan, showing slightly higher FPS.
Hogwarts Legacy benefits from manually locking the game to the first CCD for the 7900x 3D.
Ghost of Tsushima performance is better with the balanced mode for the 7900x 3D, but high-performance mode is best for the 9900x.
Need for Speed Unbound sees a massive performance increase when running on the first CCD only.
On average, high-performance mode gives a slight edge for the 9900x, but a decrease for the 7900x 3D.
The video concludes that high-performance mode is generally better for most CPUs, but balanced mode may be better for dual CCD Ryzen 9 CPUs.
The presenter received Pulsar mice and a mouse pad after visiting their booth at Gamescom 2024.
Transcripts
are you one of those people that believe
that the high performance SP plan will
actually deliver you the best
performance you can have well you might
actually be losing
performance some days ago I made a video
testing Windows 11 2322 versus 2422 to
see which Windows version would perform
faster CPU wise and in that same video I
had some interesting results regarding
ryzen 9 7900x 3D and 9900 X so I tested
things a bit more and I found out that
most times the Dual CCD ryzen CPUs the
ones that have two core packages let's
call them that are very sensitive to the
windows power plans I'm TI when you
install Windows the default power plan
is balanced and I usually select high
performance power plan for all my builds
because high performance means higher
performance well not really according to
amd's reviewers guide all ryzen CPUs
featuring a dual CCD layout should be
using balanced mode for better
performance due to scheduling so this
means balance delivers the best
performance well not really it happens
that on top of Windows being highly
inconsistent when it comes to CPU
performance even on different clean
installations it also does a shitty job
when it comes to scheduling meaning that
in some game scenarios where it should
be using just one CCD for example for
the best performance it might be using
two and vice versa so how do you exactly
know uh which games run better run one
or two ccds or which games run better or
worse on those configurations or which
one should you choose you don't you
don't because in some games the
scheduler works well and in others not
really so on top of these two power
plans I also add the third test where I
use Windows Affinity to make sure that
the games are using the first CCD of
each CPU only this to see how the 18
games tested perform in case the
scheduler isn't doing its job properly
interested let's watch starting with PL
tail rein but in a village area to
really push the CPU and I found that
this game cares a lot about latency as
using the high performance delivered
lower performance higher performance
delivered lower performance you heard it
right on both CPUs but manually setting
the CPU to just use the six course 12
threads from the first CCD increased the
9900 X's performance by 5% and the 7900x
3D's performance by 10% now
outperforming the 9900 X which is quite
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by making this well levels will load a
bit slower than before and the loading
in some new area as well might bring
some stutters something that wasn't
presented before uh locking the the game
to the first CCD but well I guess it's a
trade Counter Strike 2 is a game that
doesn't use many cores or threads and
latency is usually King possibly even
King Kong here the balanced modies once
again out matching high performance
especially on the 19900 X since it
doesn't feature the 3D Kush and even
there it is 15% faster than the 7900x 3D
but as soon as we manually tweak the
game to just use the course from the
first CCD the 7900x 3D gets a 14%
performance increase putting it almost
on par with the 9900x in terms of
averages but 16% faster in the 1%
lows cyberpunk 20177 is another game
where the same thing happens balanced
mode is slightly faster than the high
performance one but when we lock the
game to the first CCD only the
performance shoots up making the 9900x
6% faster and the 7900 X 3D
11% and in theory the balanced mode
should perform like the Affinity to CCD
o or CCD Z in these games but in the
most scenarios it doesn't sometimes it
only works well for a time when clean
installing Windows uh but then it goes
nuts once again so thanks Microsoft and
AMD as for Spider-Man remaster things
finally change this game is very
demanding when it comes to Ram bandwidth
and this is why the Dual CCD ryzen CPUs
work so well in this game because having
two ccds will increase your R bandwidth
mostly the read and copy I believe also
increasing the game's performance of
course and that's why also locking the
game to the first CCD only works
decently on the 7900 x 3 because it has
3D cash to compensate on the 9900x
though the high performance mode is the
way to go and I tested this several
times so I can confirm that the high
performance power plan works much better
in this game something that gets even
more ground when tested with rate
tracing where we have a 15% increase
going from balance to high performance
power plan on the 9900x with the results
for the 7900x 3D being flattered due of
course to the 3D
goh and Starfield is another odd
scenario but for both CPUs this game
uses the CPU like a lot and even though
this is the case the performance seems
to be slightly better when only using
one CCD of six sces 12 threats somehow
maybe this happens because the game
loves scores but also loves latency I
don't really know so having a bit less
scores but way less latency as well
leads to higher results with a 5% boost
for the
9900x once again really
OD the last of us though unlike
Starfield does absolutely need a lot of
course and that can be easily seen as
making the game using the first CCD only
makes the game stir like hell making the
game actually unplayable in some scenes
due to the high CPU utilization as seen
here where the threads from the first
CCD are constantly at 90% or higher and
the need of those cores is so much that
even when locking the game to the first
CCD only it will still use some Cor from
the other CCD like you're seeing right
here so overall this game generally
performs better with a high performance
power
plan in The Witcher 3 we're running
around novigrad which is well known to
put CPUs to work and in this case
scenario balanced or high performance
modes are really close to each other and
when locking the game to the first CCD
only the 9900 X gets absolutely no gains
over the high performance SP plan as
expected the 7900 x3d on the other hand
got a little performance uplift of 4%
that happened once again because of the
3D cach in the first CCD only helping
with the gaming
performance and Assassin's Creed Origins
is also quite CPU limited but in most
scenarios that happens not because of
the CPUs themselves but because of the
game using the port optimization on top
of the X11 as for the results they're
basically equal for both CPUs
here Microsoft flight simulator is a
game that absolutely love scos and this
is why we get these results the 900 x
gets around the same performance with
all plans as it should be from the start
but with a balanced Mode still
delivering the best results with a 7900
X 3D also delivering its best results
with a balanced mode when using the high
performance mode though the game data
starts kind of getting pushed more and
more to the second CCD which means that
it isn't taking a good Advantage from
the 3D cach which is on the first CCD
the only which leads to lower
performance and remember what I told you
about Assassin's Creed Odyssey and bad
optimization on top of the X11 well that
sums it up as with Assassin's Creed
Mirage we were having around let's say
almost 18 180 FPS in highly populated
areas while in Assassin's Creed Origins
we were barely reaching 120 so it's a
lot of difference as for the results
they are all within the margin of error
for this game with the performance mode
showing slightly better results
especially for the 9900 X being 3%
faster moving to fortnite you won't see
the Affinity results as the game
wouldn't allow me to constantly telling
me that the action was blocked it is
what it is I guess but in terms of
results they are all within the margin
of error
here on pubg though we have a very odd
scenario where the performance mode
works better for the 9900x as it should
but much worse for the 79 900x 3D where
the balanc mode was the fastest one
being 4% faster than the manual CCD
tuning and 20% faster than the high
performance mode
option aeto course is another game that
doesn't really like the performance mode
for the ryzen 9 CPUs since using both
ccds gets us higher latencies and
considering this game doesn't really
take much advantage of the extra memory
bandwidth we get these other results
where the balanced mode delivers the
same FPS as the forc affinity meaning
that the balance mod was already working
well in this game while the high
performance mode only delivers around
85% of its performance on the 7900x 3D
being the decre is much lower with the
9900x Far Cry 6 is a game that I've seen
getting huge performance uplifts by
tweaked Ram timings and sub timings but
it seems that it likes the high
performance power plan the most
delivering slightly higher FPS with both
CPUs but nothing really crazy or
relevant of
course and in hogwart's Legacy we have
the 9900x Performing around the same in
all situations but we have the 7900 x3d
actually benefiting from manually
locking the game to the first CCD where
the 3D cush is it seems windows and
chipset drivers aren't working entirely
well for this game with a 7900 X 3D as
the game is still using some cores from
the second CCD when using the balanced
mode that's why we get a performance
uplift when locking to the first C C CD
only I
guess in Ghost of tsushima we have the
7900x 3D performing better with the
balanced mode delivering a bit higher 1%
lows when locking the game to the first
CCD but the 9900 X delivers the best
performance available when using
performance mode being 6% faster than
balance mode in the averages and 11%
faster in the 1% lows and once again I
tested this several times still the same
results and our final game tested is
Need for Speed Unbound where we get a
massive performance increase when
running the game on the first CCD only
in this game the 9900x is 9% faster than
the 7900x 3D with the high performance
mode being the best choice and since
this game benefits a lot from the higher
memory bandwidth lower timings and most
importantly a lot of course the
performance dropped down well as soon as
we limited to only six course 12 threads
as the CPU was almost all the time at
over 90% usage across that same CCD as
can be seen right now of course so for
this game enabled performance mode of
course and to finalize we have the 17
games average and if you glomerate all
these results what we get when enabling
the high performance power plan is
0.7% difference on the 9900x and the
decreased performance with the 7900x 3D
that that unlike the 9900x also gets a
performance uplift of 2.7% when
obligating the games to run on the first
CCD only due of course to the 3D Kush
but in general yeah performance mode for
the 9900x and almost any CPU and
balanced mode for the Dual CCD X 3d1 so
far and well guys as you saw this was a
interesting video with some interesting
results and I did make a video about
Windows balanced and power and power
saving and high performance power plans
back in the days like the days were like
two years ago or something like that and
in terms of single CCD CPUs which are
most of them ryzen 3 ryzen 5 and ryen 7
CPUs this won't be an issue so selecting
high performance mode should be always
the the best thing to do in most
scenarios okay but if you are going for
a dual CCD solution or if you going
going especially for a ryzen 9 7900x 3D
or if you're going for the upcoming
ryzen 99900 X 3D unless they change the
cach structure it will work exactly the
same or unless they really really
improve the chipset drivers and the
windows scheduler it will be the same so
most times balanced mode for the ryzen 9
7900x 3D and high performance for any
other scenarios but if you're still
using ryzon 9 being it ryzon 9 uh I mean
3900x 5900 X
7900x x3d 9900x it doesn't really matter
as long as it is a ryzen 9 it features a
dual CPU layout so you might actually be
losing performance in some scenarios if
you're using the high performance mode
like we saw in a set of courses cyber
punk and The Witcher 3 for example and
if you want to go even further you can
just select high performance and then in
the games that you know that really
really just run better on the first CCD
like CS2 for example and some several
others you just go and select the
Affinity of the course to the first CCD
and in that case scenario especially if
your chip has x3d cach the performance
will be much better but yeah I made this
video because I thought it would be
really interesting to show you the
differences in between the power plants
this is not a topic that most people
test and definitely in laptops and maybe
in mini computers where the power is
really really restricted going from
power saving to balance to high
performance will indeed make the
difference performance-wise but in
desktop computers the difference is
basically null because once again we're
talking about a nonrestricted scenario a
non a non- power restricted scenario
like a ryzen 9 CPU and so on it just
makes the difference because of the
windows scheduling not because of the
power itself so yeah AMD and windows
need to do better regarding the ryzen 9
CPUs especially the ryzen 9 CPUs with 3D
C like the ryzen 9 7900x 3D because lots
of people are losing lot of performance
especially with that CPU AMD and
Microsoft need to do better and well
that's all for today's video thank you
very much for watching don't forget to
leave your comment in the comment
section and by the way let me know if
you tested these and what are your
results if you're using a laptop if
you're using a mini computer if you're
using a desktop and which CPU you're
using and so on and if the power plants
did make a difference or not because as
you saw in some scenarios they do and if
you have an older ryzen 9 CPU please
test like games like The Witcher a setto
course and so on test those games and
let me know in the comment section which
power plan works better for you on an
older ryzen 9 CPU like let's say the
5900 X the 3900x and so on because I
really want to know I visited the Pulsar
Booth uh at Gamescom 2024 and they
actually sent me an email because they
saw the video I made about Gamescom 2024
by the way check it out here and they
sent me four mice and a and a mouse pad
as well in this case the Pulsar X2 V2
which is kind of a an ambid extros Mouse
and and well it comes with with a 4K
dongle 26,000 DPI and so on and it comes
with a Demon Slayer theme which is
actually pretty nice I just wanted to
show you we also have the x2h clear
which is kind of transparent the the
mouse is transparent and it's pretty
pretty nice and we have the X2 H but
this time instead of being instead of
being transparent we actually have the
Esports the Esports title and they do
theer in terms of the dongle some some
bring a a dongle for higher dpis and
higher polling rates and so on and
others just bring a normal dongle for
lower polling rate so it depends the
version also depends and in this case
this one is size two instead of size one
before going to Gamescom I actually
bought one of their mice which was this
version but instead of being the elite
as you see here was actually the white
one that it's kind of the lower tier one
and I found it to be spectacular very
responsive very very light uh and I mean
I just after that I just knew that
Pulsar was a very good brand and for
example this one which is kind of the
elite it's still the same version the
xlite V3 but in this case it is the
Esports Edition different versions
actually bring different things like for
example here the wheel is different as
well you have the OLED screen here and
if you connect the mouse this is where
you see so an OLED monitor here an OLED
screen which is quite nice for you to
control things without needing to go to
the software just like it very much I
know this wasn't sponsored I was
actually and I will do a YouTube shorts
unboxing these products all these mice
but yeah I just like them so much that I
wanted to share basically that's it so
once again thank you for watching the
video and if you watch me just showing
you stuff from are leave a comment in
the comment section telling me that uh
well you actually saw this part of the
video because I want to I I want to know
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so thank you very much really and thank
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sponsors and thank you all for watching
the video it really uh makes me well it
really makes me eager and makes me happy
about making this video so see you in
the next one I guess cheers
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