What can we learn from DonVo's case? Risk control is key, no one knows the degree of truth.

Summary

视频中讨论了外汇交易领域的知名直播者唐维尔（Mr. Donville）的交易失败案例，他被指控在一天内损失了投资者90%至95%的资金。视频探讨了风险管理和一致性的重要性，强调了交易者应如何平衡胜率和风险回报率。同时，也对投资者选择交易者时的谨慎性提出了质疑，并分享了视频制作者自己的交易俱乐部成员的成功案例，鼓励投资者通过教育和知识来掌控自己的交易。

Takeaways

• 😀 视频中讨论了交易者Donville在外汇直播领域的声誉，以及他可能遭遇的交易失败。
• 📉 有传言称Donville在一天之内损失了90%至95%的资金，但具体情况不明，除非Donville本人公开讨论。
• 🤔 讨论了所谓的PAMM（百分比分配管理模式）或MAMM（多账户管理系统）的交易方式，以及它们与直接账户管理的区别。
• 💸 一些投资者通过PAMM或MAMM系统在Donville的账户中损失了大量资金，这引发了关于风险管理和责任的讨论。
• 📈 强调了风险管理的重要性，以及如何通过适当的风险回报比率来实现交易的长期可持续性。
• 🚫 视频中提到了止损的重要性，以及它如何保护交易者免受自身情绪影响和潜在的灾难性损失。
• 💡 提出了对投资者的警示，即在选择交易者或服务时应该更加谨慎，并且应该对风险有适当的认识。
• 🏦 讨论了某些交易平台可能存在的问题，如延迟和滑点，这些问题可能对交易结果产生重大影响。
• 📊 分享了交易者社区的成功案例，强调了教育和自我提升在交易成功中的作用。
• 🌟 视频最后鼓励交易者加入交易社区，以获得更好的教育和支持，从而提高自己的交易技能。

Q & A

视频中提到的Mr. Donville在外汇直播领域的地位是怎样的？

Mr. Donville被描述为外汇直播领域的OG（老炮），尤其在外汇空间中，他是一个资深的直播者。

Mr. Donville被指控的交易问题是什么？

Mr. Donville被指控在一天之内损失了90%到95%的资金，一些人认为他没有适当的风险管理。

什么是PM模型，它与Mr. Donville的交易有何关联？

PM模型指的是主账户复制交易的模式，即投资者将自己的账户链接到主账户，由主账户进行交易。视频中提到，如果Mr. Donville直接管理账户，他需要有相应的许可证，否则可能是非法的。如果是PM模型，则涉及的法律问题较少。

视频中提到的投资者在Mr. Donville的PM模型中损失了多少？

视频中提到了两个案例，一个投资者在PM模型中损失了大约95%的资金，另一个投资者损失了超过90%。

视频中提到的风险回报率是什么，为什么它对交易者很重要？

风险回报率是指投资者愿意为潜在收益承担的风险程度。视频中强调，风险回报率是交易的基本商业逻辑，是交易成功的关键因素，因为它关乎长期可持续性和交易者的整体策略。

视频中提到的交易者应该如何管理风险？

视频中建议交易者应该使用止损来保护自己不受情绪影响，避免因为固执而导致重大损失。同时，应该有一个有效的风险管理系统，确保在被市场证明错误时能够及时退出。

视频中提到的Blueberry Markets是什么，它与Mr. Donville的交易有何关联？

Blueberry Markets是一个交易平台，视频中提到它存在延迟问题，可能导致交易执行不顺畅。这可能与Mr. Donville的交易损失有关，因为平台的技术问题可能影响了交易的及时性和有效性。

视频中提到的投资者应该如何对待投资于交易者的资金？

视频中建议投资者应该谨慎，不应该将所有资金投入到一个交易者或一个交易策略中，而应该分散风险，并且选择有良好声誉和记录的交易者。

视频中提到的交易俱乐部是什么，它如何帮助交易者？

交易俱乐部是由视频主讲人运营的一个社区，旨在指导交易者如何交易，并像一个家庭一样带领他们。它提供日常指导、课程和社区支持，帮助交易者提高交易技能和风险管理。

视频中提到的交易者如何通过教育和自我提升来控制自己的交易结果？

视频中强调，交易者应该通过教育自己，学习如何交易，而不是完全依赖他人。通过自我提升和掌握交易技能，交易者可以更好地控制自己的交易结果，实现长期的成功。

Outlines

00:00

😲 交易者对Donville事件的讨论

视频开头提到了一位名为Donville的资深外汇直播交易员，他被指控在一天内损失了90%至95%的资金。视频作者对此事件表示好奇，并提出要深入探讨一致性问题。同时，作者也提到了一些关于Donville的传言，包括他可能没有适当的风险管理。视频作者强调，除非Donville本人公开讨论此事，否则真相无人知晓。接着，作者讨论了所谓的PAMM模型，这是一种复制交易方式，其中投资者的账户与主账户链接，由主账户进行交易。作者提到了一位投资者在PAMM模型中损失了大部分资金的案例，并质疑Donville是否直接管理这些账户，因为这可能涉及法律问题。

05:00

📉 风险管理的重要性

在第二段中，视频作者强调了风险管理和风险回报率的重要性。他分享了自己的交易哲学，即追求高回报率而不是高胜率。作者认为，即使胜率只有25%至30%，只要风险回报率得当，长期来看仍然可以盈利。他批评了那些只关注胜率而忽视风险管理的交易者，并强调了止损的重要性，认为止损是保护交易者免受自身情绪影响的关键工具。此外，作者还提到了一些关于Donville可能故意亏损投资者资金的社交媒体评论，并表达了对这些说法的怀疑。

10:02

🚫 投资者的责任与风险

第三段讨论了投资者在选择交易员时的责任。视频作者认为，尽管投资者应该更加谨慎，但他们往往因为缺乏时间而选择信任那些有良好声誉和业绩的交易员。作者不同意将全部责任归咎于投资者，因为投资者只是希望他们的资金能够为他们工作。作者重申，如果投资者在一天之内损失了大部分资金，这显然是交易员的问题，因为交易员没有妥善管理风险。此外，作者还提到了Donville的交易风格，指出其高风险回报率的问题，并强调了风险管理在交易中的重要性。

15:04

🤔 交易平台的问题与交易员的责任

在第四段中，视频作者讨论了交易平台可能存在的问题，特别是提到了Blueberry Markets的延迟问题。作者分享了自己在该平台的不良体验，并表达了对将资金投入该平台的担忧。此外，作者还提到了一些关于Donville可能与不良经纪商合作的传言，这些经纪商可能会向有影响力的交易员提供资金，条件是这些交易员的客户必须亏损。作者强调，如果这些传言属实，那么这些经纪商的行为就不再是合法的经纪行为，而是接近于欺诈。作者呼吁Donville应该站出来，为投资者提供合理的解释。

20:07

💪 教育与自我控制的重要性

最后一段中，视频作者分享了自己交易俱乐部成员的成功案例，强调了教育和自我控制的重要性。作者提到，只有通过教育和学习，投资者才能真正掌握自己的交易，并实现长期的盈利。作者鼓励观众不要完全依赖他人，而是要通过学习成为能够自我控制的交易者。视频以作者对交易俱乐部的简短介绍和对未来视频的期待结束。

Keywords

💡风险管理

风险管理是指在投资和交易中采取的策略和措施，以减少潜在的财务损失。在视频中，风险管理被强调为交易成功的关键因素。视频中提到，一些交易者可能因为缺乏适当的风险管理而在一天内损失高达90%至95%的资金，这凸显了风险管理在保护投资者资金中的重要性。

💡复制交易

复制交易是一种交易策略，其中一位交易者的交易决策被其他交易者复制执行。视频中提到了一种称为PM模型的复制交易方式，即通过主账户进行交易，其他账户链接到这个主账户并自动复制其交易操作。

💡交易者

交易者是指在金融市场中买卖金融工具以获利的个人或实体。视频中讨论了交易者的责任，特别是在管理风险和保护投资者资金方面。提到了一位名为Don的交易者，他在直播交易中可能因为风险管理不善而遭受重大损失。

💡赢率

赢率是指交易者在交易中获胜的比例。视频中提到，尽管有些交易者可能拥有高达90%的赢率，但这并不意味着他们就是优秀的交易者。视频中强调，赢率并不是衡量交易者成功的唯一标准，风险回报比同样重要。

💡风险回报比

风险回报比是交易中潜在收益与潜在损失的比率。视频中强调了风险回报比的重要性，指出一个好的交易策略应该在承担较小风险的同时寻求较大的回报。这是评估交易是否值得进行的一个重要指标。

💡情绪交易

情绪交易是指交易者在情绪驱动下做出的交易决策，而非基于逻辑和策略。视频中提到，即使是经验丰富的交易者也可能受到情绪的影响，这可能导致不理智的交易决策和重大损失。

💡止损

止损是一种交易指令，用于限制潜在的损失。当市场价格达到预设的止损点时，交易会自动平仓。视频中提到止损的重要性，它可以帮助交易者控制损失，避免因情绪化决策而遭受更大的财务损失。

💡投资者

投资者是指投入资金以期望获得回报的人。视频中讨论了投资者在交易中的责任，包括选择交易者和理解交易策略。同时，也提到了投资者可能因为缺乏对交易者策略的了解而遭受损失。

💡交易社区

交易社区是指交易者聚集在一起交流经验、分享策略和学习的群体。视频中提到了交易者加入交易社区的重要性，这可以帮助他们提高交易技能，学习风险管理，并从其他交易者的经验中受益。

💡交易策略

交易策略是指交易者用来指导其交易决策的一套规则或方法。视频中讨论了不同的交易策略，包括追求高赢率和高风险回报比的策略。一个好的交易策略应该能够帮助交易者在长期内实现稳定的收益。

Highlights

讨论了Mr. Donville在外汇直播领域的成就和近期的交易损失。

提到Mr. Donville可能没有适当的风险管理，导致一天内损失90-95%。

探讨了一致性在交易中的重要性。

分析了投资者通过主账户复制交易（PAM模型）的风险。

讨论了Mr. Donville是否需要许可证来管理账户的问题。

分享了投资者在PAM模型中损失惨重的案例。

强调了风险管理和风险回报在交易中的重要性。

讲述了一个交易者在PAM模型中损失超过90%的案例。

提出了对Mr. Donville交易风格的质疑，特别是风险回报方面。

讨论了交易者情绪管理的重要性和止损的必要性。

提到了Blueberry Markets平台的延迟问题可能对交易造成的影响。

分享了社区成员通过学习改善交易表现的成功案例。

强调了教育和自我学习在交易中的重要性。

呼吁Mr. Donville对投资者的损失给出合理的解释。

总结了交易者应该如何正确地管理风险和尊重投资者的资金。

分享了交易俱乐部成员的成功故事，强调了教育和社区支持的价值。

Transcripts

hi Traders welcome back to another video

so you know yesterday one of my trck

club members he he he

roughly talked with me about what has

happened to Mr donville uh he's

definitely one of the OG in live

streaming in FX especially in FX

space it's an interesting uh discussion

I'll say all right so some people call

him a rock pool

some people say he did not have a proper

risk management that he lost about 90 to

95% in one single

day but let's dive deep into it and

really talk about what consistency

really is

again whether or not these are the truth

we'll put them aside because again no

one will ever know the real truth until

Mr Dawn

himself actually come up to the public

and discuss about it publicly so what

happened was

um basically if you look at uh this

one this is so-call one of the investor

that invested in um the M of pen model

let's call it a PM model pen model is

basically just uh you copy trading

through the master account so basically

what happen is you link your account to

the master account and they'll trade for

you you so I'm not sure about the entire

truth whether it is a real a proper

account management or is it really a pem

model um because it's very different if

Mr Dawn

himself is managing accounts for the

investor he requires a license to do so

un otherwise it would be illegal but if

let's say is a p model then there's less

um this just less legal thing needs to

be involved all right because you cop

trade he doesn't directly deal with the

investor as in he doesn't touch the

Investor's money directly that's just

less

trouble so this is uh sent to me by one

of my members he say that oh uh one of

the investor invested about $5,000 into

the the P uh the pen model um basically

copy trade um directly

from Mr Mr Don account master account

SoCal well we call it a master account

and he lost about 90 to 95 in this case

about

95% uh close to 95% in one single day or

two days I'm not sure and the another

one is actually uh this one as well I

think uh this one is much more serious I

will say that's a little crazy um this

Trader actually lost

about yeah

that's that's a lot of money so I said

basically he deposited about $54,000 or

53.8k into the account into the P model

and he almost blew the entire account so

again how much loss is that above 90%

loss so there's a lot of comment on this

um no one know what's the real truth but

what I can be very honest with all of

you is

I believe that Dawn is a good Trader the

fact that he has done so many things

publicly doing all the live

session um yeah it just shows that he is

a real Traer but for me personally again

it's just my personal opinion you could

be you could disagree with me but I

never believe when someone say he

doesn't care about racek management as

it and he he doesn't care about risk

management he doesn't care about risk

reward to me I'm a full-time Trader and

I have achieved the seven figures Mark

and I'll still tell you honestly I care

a lot about a risk reward why because

risk reward is like

um just such a basic business um logic

as in today imagine you invest 500k into

a business and imagine if the founder of

the the one who works for you tell you

hey if you lost on the investment you

could potentially lose 500k of your

investment every single thing but if the

business is making good money maybe you

get back 10% you'll get

50k so that's risk reward you invest

500k for 50k of

profits the same thing goes into trading

I always tell my trade club members I

always tell any single my students my

mentees I always say hey risk reward is

everything because trading is a business

if you don't have a proper risk reward

means you are

just firing uh empty empty shots you you

don't actually know what you're doing

you're just taking random bets and what

makes a Trader so profitable is we have

the occasional that Runner all right we

have the Home Run trade it goes to 5r

10r 15r what's ever all right risk

reward is just like I invest $33,000

today because I know the potential

return is

$10,000 that's three plus r r reward

beautiful even if I take a loss as long

as in the in in the long term even if I

only have about 30% win rate 25% win

rate I will still be making money in the

long run it takes off all of the

pressure all of the

headaches of oh I need to be correct 80

to 90% of the time and not longer when I

talk about the concept of Rich reward to

the public there will one person comment

to me and say oh you definitely don't

know how to trade Rich reward is not

important I have a one to one you say

okay you have a Ono one system all you

have to do is just to make sure win rate

extremely

high all right but for me personally I'm

not the person who will say I I want

want to be correct 60% of the time I

want to be correct 80% all the time I'm

not the kind of Trader for me I want to

be correct and I want to make

more when I'm being correct when I'm

being being proven right than when I'm

Pro being proven wrong that's it that's

the the entire logic of trading to me

long-term sustainability and that's how

I get an

edge and you

know I have I never I never really

watched the live stream on Dawn probably

one stream uh two years ago I'm not sure

but I realized that that there always a

very how can I say is not a very healthy

risk reward the way he trade but again

I'm not but again I'm not here trying to

judge him but what I can say is the way

he's he trade in involves a lot of risk

and

especially we're all humans you are

human I'm a human we all have emotions

and emotion is biological it is not

psychological which means sometimes we

could be

hijacked by emotional

behavior and

so what if someday there's one AB one

very ugly day where you are being proven

wrong but you are just being so

stubborn it could happen and that's why

stop loss is so important stop loss is

there to protect ourself from our

biggest enemy so who's our biggest enemy

us remember stop loss is there for a

reason which is to protect ourself from

ourself from that little demon in your

mind that may hijack your brain and

start doing stupid things and that's

emotion and that's how scary emersion is

and that's why we have a stop loss let's

say you have a stop loss the worst case

scenario how many percent could you lose

4% 5%

3% and let's say if you really have an

effective risk management a set of roles

that that actually got you when to step

away from the market when you're being

proven wrong you know when to take pull

hand

break one day normally I lost a Max 2 to

3% that's really the max all right right

so yeah it's really interesting to see

that and let's go to some um other

screenshots again all of the screenshots

are sent

by some of my

members let's have a look at this one as

well so this one is um basically

just uh someone says that oh for context

why Dawn when go dawn in one day blw

through $1 million in investors money

that's quite crazy I'll agree with that

with a [ __ ] hft hft means high

frequency trading bought that he tried

to make quick money skem

with Absolut zero excuse for social post

on social media going goes like U blah

blah blah something Shady feels like he

blew through that money on purpose how

can Mr R doesn't possibly blow blow a

Millie without it being on purpose seems

like a rock ball can't wait for the

explanation on this investors are also

to be blame investing to highrisk Trader

but to expect a negative 100% AI in one

day's outes there's something that I

agree with this individual with the

comment and something that I do not

agree I agree and did not agree so

basically you have to think about this

you know

I do agree that investors um investors

should be blamed of course but to me

personally I don't think so you know you

know what I know a lot of you if you

watch uh if you know the story or

whatever you might feel like oh why

don't the investors be a little bit more

careful why do they invest in a YouTube

influencer rather than a real

professional who works on a trade floor

who works in the banks the institutions

a real

proper account management

company but the thing is

this investors us me myself I'm an

investor as

well sometimes

we not me because I'm many a full-time

Trader but there are a lot of investors

that have excess of money but just don't

have the time to trade thems and that's

why they invest in someone who has a

potential someone who shows grow great

reputation someone who shows great track

record whatever so we can't really blame

the investor because investors are

simply individual with excess of money

they are looking to put their money to

work for them and trusting it onto

someone else you can't really blame the

investor so in this case you

see lost about uh 90 to 100% in one

single day that is definitely the

Traders

problem I don't care if it's Dawn or

anyone else I will still say the same

thing that is definitely the trader

problem you know why because it shows

zero risk management and of course in

another way zero respect towards

investors's money imagine today you

invest 100K I want all of you to just

think in and imagine if this is your own

money you park 100K into someone that

you trust and you lost almost all every

single penny one single day how could it

be possibly your fault it has to be the

Trader's

fault because it could be oh you w you

you have a sleep wake up in the morning

all of your money is gone that's almost

like being scammed

so and

again there's two things to to highlight

here first one is Mr Dawn he has a

negative reward trading sty which means

he care a lot about at win rate I know

he sometimes will flash that oh I have a

90% win rate to me I don't bind to that

some of you maybe you do maybe you do

yeah you feel like oh his win rate is

beautiful such an amazing win rate but

to me I'm not being I'm not Amazed by

that because becoming a good trailer is

all about balancing that that is like a

balancing weing skill is are trying

you're trying to spin a few playes at

the same time as well

um you just need to balance everything

right if you have a high risk reward

your win rate would actually drop a

little bit but you can always improve

your win rate by mastering your your

position by improving your trade

management Etc there's a lot of ways you

can do to make sure your win rate is not

too bad maybe 50% 55% but at the same

time really elevate your rual ratio

using Trail stops using any sort of

trade management technique and that's

what I always teach in the trade Club as

well you

know but in this case you see you can it

just shes one thing you can become an

incredible Trader you can make a million

dollars in one year two years doing live

stream but if you don't manage your

money well one bad day you lo you lose

everything and that is the power and

that is the true power of risk

management and that is also the true

power of you not respecting risk reward

not respecting the long-term gain the

sustainability when you want to trade I

always tell any single person whether

it's all of you watching this video or

if they're within my trade Club if you

don't

respect uh money if you don't respect

the risk don't expect yourself to become

a good Trader you will be destined to

fail all right and then there's one

thing quite um suspicious here as well

which

is I don't think any single person can

possibly lose so much money one single

day um I do agree that uh blueberry

Market from what I know they they always

have latency problem as in if you try to

use blueberry platforms you realize

there's a lot of latency latency means

you click the buy and sell button or

maybe you try to close your position

there's a delay it's almost like a

glitch you click the button you cannot

go

through and I have experienced that on

blueberry markets myself before and

that's one of the reason why I don't put

my money into blueberry market and all

of my uh capital is almost I'll say 80

to 90% is in ic Market Australian based

broker

such such a credible company uh very

regulated quick withdrawal speed

normally within the day maximum two

business days execution Top Notch as

well blueberry markets again like what I

say the condition isn't that beautiful

the spreads a little bit wide and

there's a lot of

latency you see uh Kimo I think I think

a lot of you know him as well for people

who think prop firms are evil Brokers

actually offer large sums of money to

influencers with the condition that the

people who deposit have to lose I know I

know people who have been offered up 80%

of clients lost money yes 80% uh this

one

again no one know the degree of the

truth but what I can say

is yeah I do I do know

that some Brokers do that and those are

really shady broker and they are not

actually a broker right when when when a

brokerage firm start doing these kind of

shady things they are no longer broker

they're more to a scam right so yeah I

do know cases like that I've heard of it

I know such thing exist as well so yeah

I'm not

surprised uh then uh if you look at this

one uh again all of these are sent to me

by my member say that that's me I put I

can't see the exact figure but it seems

like a a pretty decent five figures

seems like 30 40 or 50k so he says that

that's me I put all of my money into the

me me and Pam is technically the same

thing I'm desperate right now I could

buy a house and now I need to work for

that for 4 years I laid in bed tonight

with a suicide

thoughts and I will be very honest with

you it doesn't seems like it's a fake

comment um I believe this is more of a

um uh donville Community Discord should

be and it doesn't seems like the person

is faking um cor uh main reason being he

even posts his broker statement yeah

broker statement you can't lie that's

legit and you say that he put almost all

his money again it we can debate that it

is his problem that he put all of his

money into an

influencer but to me again

sometimes you just trust an individual

it's just like if today some of my

Trader my my students or my mentees they

come to me and say I want to give you a

million dollars to trade it is my duty

to protect your money I would never

think about profits first I'll think

about how can I reduce the risk how can

I protect the downside how can I make

sure nothing will ever happen that I

disappoint them that's always my utmost

uh priority and that's one of the reason

why currently our trade club we have

almost

110 Traders inside because yeah they

always learn learn from me that the

importance of risk management so yeah

what I what I still want to say

is it's quite scary it's quite

scary uh looking at all these news and I

do I do really think that

uh Dawn he really has to step

up and really just give it a a good

solid explanation because again if there

are really people who invest in such a

big amount into his P model into his

copy trading service whatever they

deserve to know the truth as well uh

that's that's my sincere thought and I

think yeah he should really really St

about it and give a good explanation so

that goes

uh yeah another

screenshot

and there goes something from Roger Bank

um he's he I believe he was probably the

the the first one they said apparently

today Don crashed the M account on

blueberry markets yeah so again more

drama

here and yeah and before we end the

the the video I just want to share

something

that I'm proud of and also something

that I think this is more of a proper

way to trade and I hope these I hope if

any of you invest in Dawn the PM model

or

whatever you can cheer up and really

learn how to trade properly so this is

one of my members that joined um about a

month plus ago one and a half month

probably

and scroll down I really take your word

and your advice and some changes happen

on your on my side hopefully this can

make you feel proud I'm always proud of

them I receive text like this very often

by the way you see what a beautiful

Equity cuff what a beautiful Equity C on

his ftmo challenge although he hasn't

passed the challenge but that's insane

before he joined my community he was in

a massive draw down and he didn't know

what he doing he even failed challenges

before he joined our trade club and

after I review his journal after I

helped him I think he's under a half

year I think he's one of our half year

member after I helped review V his

journal after I he followed our guidance

for our daily call our watching our 300

plus lessons look at that he started to

achieve a very strong Equity curve and

you see that before he joined the trade

Club all the way down right now is all

the way back

up that's just insane he was in a heavy

draw down same thing uh almost fed up on

this account but I really do feel

sincerity and caring maybe you wouldn't

believe this but after I join the

community I wouldn't feel so lonely to

work as a trailer and that's what I want

to tell all of you from Don's

case or whatever that we we have heard

you you just have to understand that

knowledge is power and education is key

if you put your money onto someone else

and you rely on them you just don't have

a full control the only way you can have

a full control of your returns or

whatever is to make sure you're well

educated that you really know how to

trade and you trust no one else but

yourself just like me I'm a full-time

trainer and just like them all of my

trade club members we have about

110 uh members right now Super Active me

yeah love the fact that they're all yeah

they're just beautiful Traders super

powerful see members achieving 4 and a

half

hour yeah just such a strong

Community tons of blessings as well so

that's it for the video if you like the

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Club where I guide Traders on how to

trade and I lead them as a as whole like

like a

family um why am I promoting it because

we are looking to grow the family in uh

one of the best trading community in the

space so yeah I hope all of you enjoy

the video and I'll talk to you next time

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