Samsung OLED a JOKE in 2024? - S90D & Don’t Buy S95D

Summary

The video discusses a report from a South Korean newspaper suggesting Samsung may be mixing last-generation OLED panels with Quantum Dot OLED panels in their S9D TVs across various sizes. The speaker expresses disbelief and disapproval, comparing it to a 'panel lottery' from the S90C model. They argue that the two panel technologies are significantly different, with Quantum OLED offering brightness and color advantages, while W OLED provides better text clarity and ambient light handling. The speaker is concerned about Samsung selling these as the same product without transparency and urges the company to clarify, advocating for industry pushback to prevent a decline in TV quality akin to the monitor industry's issues.

Takeaways

• 📰 A South Korean newspaper, The L, reported that Samsung might be mixing last-generation Evo W OLED panels with Quantum Dot OLED panels in their S9D series TVs.
• 🎲 This practice, if true, would be unprecedented and could lead to a 'panel lottery' for consumers, affecting sizes from 42 to 77 inches.
• 🚫 The speaker strongly disapproves of this potential practice, stating it's 'totally unacceptable' for Samsung to mix panel technologies without informing consumers.
• 📈 The S90C series had a panel variation issue where some models had brighter panels, but this was within the same technology base.
• 💡 Samsung's response to inquiries was vague, hinting at the possibility of mixed panels but not confirming it, which the speaker interprets as a likely confirmation.
• 📺 The differences between W OLED and Quantum OLED panels are significant, affecting brightness, uniformity, color volume, and ambient light handling.
• 🌟 The speaker prefers the W OLED for its clearer text and better handling in bright ambient light, despite the Quantum OLED's superior brightness and color.
• 🛒 The speaker advises against purchasing the S90D series due to the potential panel inconsistency and recommends the S95D series, despite its matte coating.
• 🔧 The speaker expresses frustration with Samsung Electronics' product quality control and decisions, contrasting with the advanced technology from Samsung Display.
• ✊ The speaker calls for the TV community to push back against this practice to prevent the TV industry from following the monitor industry's negative trajectory.

Q & A

What is the main concern raised in the script about Samsung's S9D TV?

The main concern is that Samsung might be mixing last-generation Evo WOLED panels with their Quantum Dot OLED panels in the S9D TV, which could lead to a 'panel lottery' where customers do not know which type of panel they will receive.

Why is the mixing of different panels in the S9D TV considered unacceptable?

The mixing is considered unacceptable because it could lead to a significant variation in the quality and performance of the TVs, with the WOLED panels and Quantum Dot OLED panels having different characteristics that could affect the viewing experience.

What was the situation with the S90C TV that is mentioned as a precedent?

With the S90C TV, customers had a 'panel lottery' where they could get either an S95B or S95C panel, with the latter being brighter and potentially less prone to burn-in. However, both were Quantum OLED panels, unlike the proposed mix of WOLED and Quantum Dot OLED panels in the S9D.

What is the difference between WOLED and Quantum Dot OLED panels as discussed in the script?

WOLED panels are said to have slightly clearer text and better ambient light handling due to the absence of a magenta tint, while Quantum Dot OLED panels are brighter, have better uniformity, and offer better color volume.

What is the concern about the matte coating on Samsung's S95D TV?

The concern is that the matte coating on the S95D TV might negatively affect the display quality, making it look grainy or 'shitty,' which is a significant drawback for a premium TV.

What is the recommendation for those looking to buy a premium TV at a reasonable cost?

The S90C is recommended as a premium TV at a reasonable cost, but the script suggests caution due to the potential 'panel lottery' with the S9D.

What was Samsung's response to the reports about panel mixing in their TVs?

Samsung's response was vague, stating that they are continually evolving their TV portfolio to provide premium experiences, without directly addressing the specific concerns about panel mixing.

What is the call to action for the TV community regarding this issue?

The call to action is for the TV community to push back against this practice and for Samsung to clarify whether the S90D will be Quantum Dot OLED only, to avoid a situation where customers are uncertain about the quality of the TV they are purchasing.

What is the comparison made between the TV and monitor industry in the script?

The script compares the potential for the TV industry to become as problematic as the monitor industry, which has had issues with poor quality and expensive prices, and is only now starting to improve.

What is the mention of Ruo's HDMI cable and how does it relate to the discussion?

Ruo's HDMI cable is mentioned as a product that can deliver high-quality connections for TVs and monitors, but it is a separate topic from the main discussion about Samsung's TV panels and is likely included as a sponsored message.

Outlines

00:00

📺 Samsung's Potential Panel Lottery in S9D TVs

The paragraph discusses a report from a South Korean newspaper suggesting that Samsung might be mixing last-generation OLED panels with Quantum Dot OLED panels in their S9D TVs across various sizes, including 55, 65, and 77 inches. The speaker expresses disbelief and disapproval of this practice, comparing it to the panel lottery scenario with the S90C model where customers could potentially upgrade to a brighter panel. The speaker argues that the difference between W OLED and Quantum OLED panels is significant, affecting brightness, uniformity, color volume, and ambient light handling. They criticize Samsung for not being transparent about the panel types and for potentially degrading the S90D's performance to match the older panels. The paragraph ends with a call for the TV community to push back against this practice and a hope that Samsung will clarify their position.

05:01

🛒 Critique of Samsung's Matte Coating and Panel Strategy

In this paragraph, the speaker criticizes Samsung's decision to use a matte coating on their premium S95D TVs, which they believe degrades the display quality. They compare the coating to applying a 'grainy, shitty filter' over the display. The speaker also discusses Samsung's strategy of offering different panel types across their TV models, suggesting that the company is locking their best panels behind the S95D model and then offering a potentially less bright option with the S90D. The paragraph concludes with a warning to the TV industry and a call for reviewers to push back against such practices to prevent the TV market from following the negative trajectory of the monitor industry. The speaker also includes a promotional mention of Ruo's 8K HDMI 2.1 fiber optic cable, highlighting its capabilities and suggesting it as a solution for those looking to connect new TVs or monitors.

Keywords

💡Samsung

Samsung is a leading multinational technology company that produces consumer electronics, including televisions. In the video, Samsung is discussed as a manufacturer of OLED TVs, with the script expressing concern over the potential mixing of different panel technologies in their S9D series. The mention of Samsung highlights the theme of quality and consumer expectations in high-end television products.

💡Quantum Dot OLED (QD-OLED)

Quantum Dot OLED is a display technology that combines the benefits of quantum dots and OLED panels to deliver high color accuracy and brightness. The script discusses the possibility of Samsung using QD-OLED panels in some of their TV models, suggesting that these panels are considered superior in terms of brightness and color volume compared to standard W-OLED panels.

💡W-OLED

W-OLED stands for White OLED, which is a type of OLED panel technology. The script contrasts W-OLED with Quantum Dot OLED, suggesting that while W-OLED panels may have slightly clearer text and better ambient light handling, they are not as bright or have as good color volume as QD-OLED panels.

💡Panel Lottery

The term 'panel lottery' refers to the practice where consumers may receive different quality panels in the same model of a TV, depending on the manufacturing batch. The script mentions this in the context of Samsung's S90C series, where one could either get an S95B or S95C panel, with the latter being preferable. The concept is used to criticize the lack of consistency and transparency in product quality.

💡Burn-in

Burn-in is a phenomenon where a static image on an OLED screen can cause permanent damage, leading to ghost images. The script suggests that one of the reasons for preferring QD-OLED over W-OLED is the potential for less burn-in, although this is not explicitly confirmed.

💡Matte Coating

A matte coating is a finish applied to screens to reduce glare and reflections. The script criticizes Samsung for using a matte coating on their S95D series, which the speaker finds to be of poor quality and detracts from the display's appearance, comparing it unfavorably to other matte coatings on the market.

💡HDMI Cable

An HDMI cable is a high-speed digital interface used to transmit audio and video data between devices, such as TVs and gaming consoles. The script ends with a mention of a high-quality HDMI cable from the brand Ruro, which is capable of supporting 8K resolution and high frame rates, illustrating the importance of compatible hardware for the best TV experience.

💡8K Resolution

8K resolution refers to a display resolution of approximately 8,000 pixels horizontally. The script mentions 8K in the context of the capabilities of the Ruro HDMI cable, which can support 8K at 60 frames per second, indicating the cable's high data transfer rate and suitability for next-generation displays.

💡Uniformity

Uniformity in the context of TV panels refers to the consistency of brightness and color across the screen. The script suggests that Quantum OLED panels typically have better uniformity than W-OLED panels, which is an important factor for high-quality image display.

💡Color Volume

Color volume is a measure of the range of colors a display can reproduce at different brightness levels. The script indicates that Quantum OLED panels are expected to have better color volume, which contributes to a more vibrant and lifelike image.

💡Ambient Light Handling

Ambient light handling refers to how well a display performs in different lighting conditions. The script suggests that W-OLED panels may have an advantage in bright rooms due to less magenta tinting, which can affect the perceived color accuracy of the image.

Highlights

Samsung may be mixing last-generation Evo WQ panels with Quantum Dot OLED panels on the S9D.

This mix is reportedly happening across various sizes including 42, 48, 55, 65, and 77 inches.

The practice is unprecedented and could be seen as a significant downgrade from previous models.

In the past, the S90C had a panel lottery between S95B and S95C panels, with the latter being brighter and less prone to burn-in.

The S90D is expected to be locked down to perform similarly to a WQ panel, which is a substantial change.

Quantum OLED panels offer better brightness, uniformity, and color volume compared to WQ panels.

WQ panels provide clearer text and better ambient light handling due to the lack of magenta tinting.

The difference between WQ and Quantum OLED panels is significant, making the mix potentially unacceptable.

Samsung's response to inquiries was vague, hinting at a possible panel lottery in the S90D.

The S90D is a more affordable option, making the potential panel mix a significant concern for consumers.

The S95D is locked behind a matte coating, which is seen as a downgrade from the glossy coating of other models.

The speaker will not recommend Samsung products due to the potential panel mix and other quality concerns.

The TV community is urged to push back against this practice to avoid a repeat of the monitor industry's issues.

The best-case scenario would be for Samsung to clarify that the S90D will only use Quantum Dot panels.

The speaker warns that if the reports are true, it could lead to a vastly different TV experience than expected.

The speaker calls for a unified response from TV reviewers to maintain industry standards.

RUO's 8K HDMI 2.1 fiber optic cable is recommended for those looking to connect new consoles or gaming PCs.

Transcripts

so recently there was a bit of news

coming out from the South Korean

newspaper the L that seemed to suggest

and this is insane but yes that

apparently Samsung might be actually

mixing in what is in my opinion almost

certainly going to be nonla last

generation Evo wed panels with their

Quantum do OLED panels on the s9d and

not just in the 42 and the 48 in sizes

but apparently the 55 the 6 65 in the

77in sizes as well something that as far

as amware has never happened before and

I cannot believe that they would do

something like this you know what

actually I can and the reason why is

because last time around with the s90c

it was a panel Lottery whether you're

going to get an s95 B panel or an s95 C

panel and if you were lucky enough to

get an s95 C panel you could in theory

turn it into an s95 C I've done it

myself it works and you get a much

brighter panel overall but that was two

Quantum OLED panels sure one was

brighter than the other and potentially

could be less prone to burn in but they

were technically based on the same sort

of Technology but this would be a

completely different situation and in my

opinion this is totally unacceptable I

mean Samsung you know what you want to

play stupid games you're going to win

stupid prizes you think that I'm

going to recommend somebody goes out

there and effectively gambles with their

money on what type of TV they're going

to get and you know what if they

performed similarly that would be a

different story and maybe they will

because they'll lock down the s90d so

hard that it'll somehow perform similar

to a wed panel but I don't see why they

would do like they would have to lock

down the s90d a very substantial mount

to the point where it might even be

worse than the s90c for that to be the

case that's the only way I could see

that happening otherwise I don't know

how they could even get away with doing

this because there are huge huge

differences between a regular wed panel

and a Quantum OLED panel and it doesn't

necessarily mean that I would 10 out of

10 times tell somebody to go get the

quantum panel or that it's definitely

better for everyone I think it's a

better panel but maybe not for everyone

because for example a modern Quantum

OLED panel is going to be far brighter

it's going to have better uniformity

typically and it's also going to have

better color volume however the W OLED

panel in my opinion is going to have

slightly more clear text and it's

definitely going to have better ambient

light handling as it doesn't have that

magenta tinting in a bright room so

these two panel Technologies are way way

different so I don't know how Samsung

thinks they can get away with selling

them as the same product essentially

without letting us know and as of right

now if these reports are to be believed

it sounds like that could be the case

it's it's sounding pretty likely as you

know Not only was it reported originally

by the elic but we got an update on this

guy as it looks like tech radar actually

asked Samsung for confirmation on these

reports and here was Samsung's response

quote we're continually evolving our TV

portfolio to provide our customers with

new and exciting Innovations and

experiences Samsung OLED TVs

consistently offer a premium experience

while delivering excellent viewing

performance regardless of the specific

panels that are integrated into the

product so that's a total cop out and to

give them credit sure maybe this doesn't

confirm anything but to me this kind of

sounds like they're hinting that it's

likely we're going to be getting a panel

lottery in the s90d and you know what

that's bad enough because the s90d is

going to be the panels that typically

everyone would go for they're going to

be far cheaper and for example the s90c

right now would be my go-to

recommendation for somebody who wants a

premium TV at a reasonable cost these

Quantum OLED TVs and monitors are really

really good so Samsung display has some

awesome technology on their hands but

Samsung Electronics my God it just seems

like to me they have the reverse mest

touch I'm always always having issues

with their products and it absolutely

drives me bananas when I get something

from them that doesn't have issues I'm

like oh my god wow finally I'm going

crazy here guys I am not going to

recommend this stuff because again it's

bad enough like I said it's bad enough

that they're doing this to the s90d but

okay go buy an s95 5D except for don't

because it has a mat cating and there's

going to be people who try and run

defense for it but I'm going to tell you

this right now I am not going to sit

here and run defense for Samsung

electronics for making stupid

decisions I've seen it on their monitors

it looks awful like what do we expect

here like sure some mac Coatings look

better than others I think LG's Mac

coatings on their monitors look awful

like really really bad they are way

worse than any other Ma cating I've seen

in my life they're definitely going to

be worse and the one that Samsung has on

their monitors and probably TVs as well

but looking at the footage of their TVs

as well as seeing their monitors in

person it's a matte coating what do you

want like if you put a grainy shitty

filter over the top of a display you

think it's going to look good no it's

not like I I have no idea what they're

doing so they're locking their best

panels behind the s95 D and then ruining

it with the matte coating and then going

well if you want a glossy coating go buy

the s90d which by the way is probably

going to be less bright oh and also by

the way who knows what you're going to

get hopefully the entire TV Community

comes together and pushes against this

and you know what the best situation

would be Samsung comes out and says you

know what no the s90d will be quantum.to

only and then the S90 1D and two and

three and four have different panels

that I would be totally okay with but if

this is going to be a situation where

you're spending your money thinking

you're getting one thing and then you

don't get that or not even close to that

the TV experience is just wildly

different that is not okay so Samsung

you better get a good response to this

and actually clarify this cuz it sounds

like right now that's what's going to be

happening I hope that's not the case but

if it is that's going to be my stance on

it and hopefully everybody else who

reviews displays does a similar thing

because let me tell you guys if there's

anybody who's watching this who is a TV

reviewer the monitor industry is a

mess we have had the worst

schlock available for us to purchase for

ungodly expensive prices for a really

long time and believe me you do not want

your TV industry to turn into the

absolute disaster that the LCD matte

screen absolute nightmare of an industry

that we've had on the monitor side which

is just now starting to correct itself

and get better but there's so many

things in the monitor industry that

still need to improve believe me push

back against this because if you don't

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