Ranking EVERY Mikel Arteta Signing EVER!

Summary

In this video, the hosts rank and analyze Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta's transfer signings over his tenure. They debate the success or failure of players like Gabriel, Odegaard, Partey, Ramsdale, and others, judging based on factors like value for money, improvement, injury issues, and contribution to team performance. There is disagreement on certain players, but they conclude Arteta has had mixed success in the transfer market, with some big mistakes.

Takeaways

• ⚽ The discussion focuses on ranking Mikel Arteta's signings during his tenure at Arsenal, evaluating their impact and effectiveness.
• 💷 A point of debate is the significant amount of money spent by Arteta on signings, raising questions about the return on investment in terms of team performance and trophies.
• 🏆 The only major trophy mentioned under Arteta's reign is one that was largely attributed to players he inherited, rather than his own signings.
• 👤 Individual players like Pablo Mari, Cedric Soares, and Willian are discussed, with opinions varying on their success or failure at Arsenal.
• 🤔 The signings of players like Gabriel Magalhães and Thomas Partey are viewed positively, highlighting their contributions to the team.
• 🔄 The panel suggests that some signings lack a clear fit or purpose in Arteta's strategy, indicating a possible lack of transfer market strategy.
• 💬 Discussions around players like David Luiz and Willian also touch on their off-field business interests, suggesting potential non-football factors in their signings.
• 🔍 The analysis includes discussions about player adaptability, injury history, and their fit in the Premier League's style of play.
• 🚫 There are criticisms about certain signings, labeling them as mistakes due to their lack of impact or high cost.
• 📈 Positive mentions are made about a few signings who have shown improvement over time, contributing significantly to Arsenal's performance.

Q & A

What are the hosts ranking in the video?

They are ranking every player that Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta has signed since he joined the club.

How long has Arteta been at Arsenal and how much money has he spent?

Arteta has been at Arsenal for a while now, feels like over 2 years. He has spent a lot of money on transfers, though the exact figure is not provided.

What was Arteta's first trophy at Arsenal and who helped him win it?

Arteta's first trophy at Arsenal was the FA Cup. Aubameyang scored two goals in the final against Chelsea to help Arsenal win.

What categories are they ranking the players in?

The categories are: Big waste of money, Does the job, Perfect signing.

Where do they rank Thomas Partey?

They rank Thomas Partey in the top tier. They call him a genius player who has been instrumental to Arsenal's successes when fit. But his injury issues have hampered the team.

What do they think about the Ben White signing?

They debate Ben White a bit. One host thinks he lacks a bit of everything, while the others highlight his versatility and value. Ultimately they agree to rank him as 'does the job'.

Why do they criticize the signing of Gabriel Jesus?

They don't actually criticize the Gabriel Jesus signing. They all agree he is a top tier signing who improves Arsenal's attack. One host suggests they still need another striker to compliment Jesus.

What went wrong with the Zinchenko transfer?

Zinchenko was meant to provide experience and know-how for winning big games and silverware. But Arsenal have won nothing since he joined and often lose their heads in big games.

How do they assess Aaron Ramsdale's time at Arsenal so far?

They debate Ramsdale a lot. He has had really good times, helping them reach Champions League. But he has also made some big mistakes recently that could cost Arsenal. They settles on ranking him as 'does the job'.

Why do they call the signing of Matt Turner a mistake?

They think Matt Turner is an awful goalkeeper - the worst in the Premier League. They criticize him heavily and call him a mental keeper.

Outlines

00:00

😊 Introducing the video and premise of ranking Arsenal signings

The narrators introduce themselves and the premise of the video, which is to rank and assess all of Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta's signings over his tenure. They note it is a challenge given the large number of signings across different positions and the significant money spent. The categories for ranking are mistake, does the job, and perfect signing.

05:00

😕 Discussion and mostly negative assessment of various Arsenal signings

The narrators discuss and assess several Arsenal signings, including Pablo Mari, Cedric Soares, Willian, David Luiz, Runarsson, Mat Ryan, Danny Ceballos, Gabriel, Martin Odegaard, Nuno Tavares, Takehiro Tomiyasu, Albert Sambi Lokonga, Granit Xhaka, Ben White, Aaron Ramsdale, Fabio Vieira, Matt Turner, Gabriel Jesus, Zinchenko, Leandro Trossard, Jorginho, Kieran Tierney, Oleksandr Zinchenko, Gabriel Magalhaes, Eddie Nketiah, Emile Smith Rowe, Gabriel Martinelli, Thomas Partey, Declan Rice, and David Raya. The assessment is largely negative, with many deemed mistakes or not good enough.

10:01

😕 Continued discussion of Arsenal signings with mixed opinions

The narrators continue discussing and assessing Arsenal's signings, including Ben White, Aaron Ramsdale, Gabriel Jesus, Kieran Tierney, Jorginho, Kieran Tierney, Oleksandr Zinchenko, Emile Smith Rowe, Gabriel Martinelli, Thomas Partey, and David Raya. There are some disagreements and mixed opinions on whether some signings were successful or not.

Keywords

💡Arsenal

Arsenal is one of the major English Premier League football clubs. The video focuses on analyzing and ranking the performance of players signed by Arsenal's current manager Mikel Arteta. Arsenal's performance and position in the league table is discussed in relation to these signings.

💡signing

The key theme of the video is evaluating Arsenal's player signings under manager Mikel Arteta. The hosts rank and debate the success or failure of each signing in improving Arsenal's performance.

💡Aaron Ramsdale

Aaron Ramsdale is an Arsenal goalkeeper signed by Arteta. His signing is debated extensively, with differing views on whether he has been a successful signing or a mistake.

💡Gabriel

Gabriel is a defender signed by Arsenal under Arteta. He is considered a highly successful signing, with the hosts ranking him in the top tier.

💡Ben White

Ben White is a defender signed by Arsenal for a high fee. His signing is debated, with differing views on whether he has delivered value and should be considered a top tier signing.

💡Declan Rice

Declan Rice is a midfielder playing for West Ham. He is described as an excellent player who could have significantly improved Arsenal's midfield, highlighting an opportunity missed by not signing him.

💡Champions League

Qualifying for the Champions League is mentioned as one of Arsenal's goals and a measure of success for Arteta's signings like Ramsdale who helped them achieve it.

💡Kia Joorabchian

Kia Joorabchian is an agent who facilitated some of Arsenal's controversial signings like David Luiz. His influence at the club is discussed.

💡bottom tier

The hosts rank unsuccessful signings or 'mistakes' in the bottom tier of their ranking system.

💡top tier

The hosts place highly successful or valuable signings like Gabriel in their top tier ranking.

Highlights

Arsenal have spent a lot of money under Arteta but only have one trophy to show for it

Aubameyang was key in Arteta's FA Cup win but they later fell out

Many of Arteta's signings like Willian, David Luiz, and Cedric Suarez came via his agent connections and didn't work out

Gabriel Magalhaes has been a big success and is Arsenal's best center back

There are doubts about whether Aaron Ramsdale is good enough to win Arsenal the Premier League title

Martin Odegaard is Arsenal's best signing of the Arteta era given his quality and value

Gabriel Jesus doesn't have the ruthlessness of a top striker but does a great job leading Arsenal's attack

Declan Rice has been better than expected and will be a mainstay in Arsenal's team for years

Zinchenko was supposed to provide winning mentality but Arsenal are no better off since he arrived

Matt Turner might be the worst goalkeeper in the Premier League

Fabio Vieira has been the worst of Arteta's signings and Arsenal should move him on

Takehiro Tomiyasu will likely prove a top signing if he can overcome his injury issues

Signing David Raya has caused uncertainty and divided opinion among Arsenal fans and goalkeepers

Arteta has backed a lot of players who haven't delivered and his transfers show a lack of identity

Many of Arteta's signings like Leno, Laca, Pepe, etc haven't worked out and he keeps changing his team

Transcripts

welcome to the club today we are ranking

every Mikel artetta signing whilst he's

been at Arsenal this a huge challenge

cuz a lot of mix signings realiz anyone

else realized there's so many names so

many he spent a lot of money you forget

he's been there that long it feels like

quite a short St he's been there a long

time he's spent a lot of money people

say that he's doing well but it's only

one final isn't it one trophy to show

for it and that was with the team that

you kind of inherited at the time wasn't

it it was a long time ago now it it was

a long time ago and yeah I think boy

just said it there that was the player

that won him that trophy aubameyang

totally destroyed us that day like the

footage of of what aubameyang did to K

Zuma was like

painful he fell out with him so I think

fairly soon all of these signings

they're going to have to come to

something aren't they y y 100% we're

going to rank these video uh we're going

to rank these transfer signings from big

fat mistake at the bottom JW's out does

the job and perfect signing at the top

boy where we starting brother Pablo

Amari Brazilian Center back um

I'd say it's a light mistake it didn't

work out it didn't really provide much

cover it wasn't quite good enough for

the league for the speed of the league

not a bad player by any stretch of

imagination but not good enough for

Arsenal no I I think I think you're

right he's not you know it didn't work

out same with Cedric Suarez I think

there's a few that you can kind of look

at when you think about how many he

signed and you can immediately sort of

go didn't work out yeah and pabari

Cedric Suarez Dan saos I would put

within that that bracket what about

Willian I think William didn't work out

but I I don't know why it didn't you

know you look at how he's still playing

for Fulham and doing a job in the

Premier League well yeah and for one

reason or another and I don't know why

it didn't work for him at Arsenal I

don't think the fans ever really took to

him but he did do them a favor didn't he

he left his contract early didn't sit it

out very charitable for footballer when

when have we ever heard about you know

players leaving money away on the table

so fair enough to him but I think it was

a mistake it was a free signing though

wasn't it William it was but it was a

fortune in terms of wag it was very Jan

put in the strings it was they didn't

put a huge outlay immediately on in

terms of like if you put a 50 60 million

on that you start to look at it a little

bit different don't you yeah at the time

it just felt like someone's come in

provide a bit of experience and then he

he didn't go to plan he was getting a

lot of grief weren't he yeah they didn't

they didn't like it I think coming from

Chelsea as well there's a few that

Arsenal made from Chelsea Peter Che and

a few others David Lise it's not always

the best assigner from Chelsea it looks

like you're getting the off cuts a

little bit David Luiz was very much of

that transfer as well wasn't it it was

like William David Luiz Kia Jan the

three of those you know you know it was

it was so odd you know in terms of like

looking

Beyond football looking at like why

these transfers happen it was such a

weird one for me because K drain Willian

and David Lise all had like a business

interest there's a restaurant in Mayfair

there was a restaurant in Mayfair and

like one of the most like Prime retail

uh streets in the whole of London called

babo those three had a restaurant

together jbin Willian DAV l

all of a sudden Jin has pulled out this

brilliant transfer for the two players

in terms of the amount of money that

they were going to make pulled out a bag

like that to me it just looked it just

looked so I'm not suggesting it was D I

don't I don't know enough about it but

it was like the three of us are all in

business together suddenly one of us

goes to the other two I can get you this

massive moveie you're going to win 350

especially in London staying in London

next to the business and all that yeah

it just felt so so weird but no where

would you rank this Willian it was a m

he was it was a disaster really wasn't

it heish didn't work yeah it didn't work

it was it was one of one of many

mistakes that I think meleta has made in

the transfer market up there with I

don't know Nuno tarez Sammy Lona there's

a lot to get through there's a lot of

players that you would forget that he

signed well about Gabrielle more of a

positive one for very positive yeah I

mean this is as good as it can get I

think it's right up there the money

wasn't too bad and also it's a bit like

you know canar at Liverpool we talk

about van Dy being the best center back

as a world he's the best you know

Defender at the club really was

fantastic but Gabrielle is a great

defender great Center G Gabrielle is is

the perfect signing you know if you kind

of rank them if you were to go one one

extreme to the other Gabrielle is most

certainly in the bracket of success

stories he is most definitely in the

success story bracket so signing that's

improved as well I think there was a

time when he was looked at maybe one of

the the you know someone that could be

approved upon someone could be replaced

in the um and particularly this season

the amount of goals he's scoring as well

as providing a threat for them and he

has got better ER as time has gone on um

which is what you want to see from your

signings do you know what is interesting

though you know when you look at the

amount of signings that arteta has made

you you you're going to throw you're

going to throw Matt Turner into this

Fabio Vieira I think has been atrocious

for you know for every deam rice it

feels like there's there's three or four

Fabio vieiras yeah hasn't he made a lot

of signings yeah he's had a lot of

backing a lot of backing and a lot

haven't worked like he's not exactly a

mastermind of the transfer market you

know there are a lot that have worked

I'm just so surprised when you see the

the collated list like this a lot a lot

of them weird there's not a kind of P

you know with Guardiola we can criticize

Guardiola with kind of the the money

outlay and stuff with our there's a lack

of identity at least Guardiola kind of

even joggen Club he signs mallister SOS

like they all fit in a mold very very

quickly a lot of these you think you

know georgino for example coming in then

Tommy yasu you know Ben White from the

we're flying through them very quickly

no no we we'll address them but I'm just

saying across the list as wide range of

signings there kind of a lack of

correlation to them if you look across

the list I would say do you know I play

it actually where do you two rank cuz I

I would rank him in the top tier but it

isn't working out Thomas parte how do

you feel about Thomas parte I think he's

been a success I think he's a brilliant

play yeah what a player agree I think

look I think as a player he's absolutely

fantastic but he's been injured a lot

and he's also got upfield things hanging

over his head and therefore he hasn't

been in a team all of this year and

whether he's been unable to be selected

or injured so whil I think you know if

you look at him as a talent and when

he's playing and he's on the pitch

without doubt you know he's one of the

best players in his position in the

league is phenomenal and I think they've

missed him a lot this season but those

things do exist with him the injury

issues after the pitch stuff and the

doubts about whether he's going to be

available so he got them back in the

Champions League though and he I think

he he got them to the title race I think

they made big mistakes in you know in

the back end of last season but part is

the the best of Arsenal last season when

they came second was was all part yeah

and people will flag that you know

towards the end of the season when it

went a little bit of wrong for part's

form people will flag that was all based

off that clip of him having the shot

when he shouldn't have in it kind we

tried to flick it over Dean Rice's head

at the Olympic Stadium like yeah what

you doing but the reason that they were

in that situation for 90% for 90% of the

of the Season he was outrageously good

yeah and he had Rob holding behind him

when CA got injured if CA stays fit that

kind of connection between parte Cela

Gabrielle you know I think they've

missed him this season they they've been

worse this season and guess what he's

not been playing yeah so I think he's a

a genius played him as well I think if

you could look at a reason why it went

wrong for them last season you know

looking beyond the obvious Beyond sack

and missing a penalty or whatever I

think Etta's over Reliance and over

commitment to playing Thomas parte is

part of the reason he does that with a

lot of his players though don't he yeah

kind of a good thing and a Bad Thing

certainly the case with sacker and

Martinelli he throwing them in the Deep

you know they're kids man they're kids

and we obviously don't judge them like

kids because they've played a lot of

football but you know this blip that

they've been on this season that always

is going to happen to a player that age

and the fact that there's no cover for

them and the fact that there's the fact

that there's such a Reliance on them is

is arguably at least poor management but

I would put I would put for the

definitive uh conversation around Thomas

parte I'd put him in the top tier of

this conversation easily he's up there

with Gabrielle for me I think he's a

fantastic player he just can't just

can't get in the team for one reason or

another yeah Adam I think you you're a

little bit more conservative in this you

you you don't put him in the top two no

no no I do I I think Thomas par is a

magnificent player I just feel like you

have to kind of take those things into

the equation don't he I'll tell you he

hasn't been available all season all

right let's move on to Danny saas

obviously on loan from Real Madrid I

think he had he had spells where he

looked decent but obviously it didn't

really work out did it you're man it's

difficult though you don't go big it was

a mistake at the time but you don't go

big mistake cuz was on loan you know

what I mean not a big fat mistake but a

big mistake it's a mistake a semi big

mistake if if we all living the dream

here and we all get the opportunity to

put an Arsenal player into the Bottom

Rung I'm going to go with this straight

away can I run with it for it Fabio via

absolute waste man have I used that

right yeah absolutely useless usess

sooner he gets out of the club Dan

obviously bottom here anyone that you

immediately want to put in Nuno tarez

after I him what he was doing with those

dogs is's going in the bottom tier

Martin erard I think is I think we'll

all agree on I think without doubt he is

Etta's best signing when you look at

value for money the the 35 million I

think it was the quality of player that

they've signed the fact that he's been

there for a few seasons kind of building

up with them um you're looking at like a

captain you know in mtin erard I think

he's unreal he definitely goes in the

top top bins

yeah what the biggest bargain in the

Prem now you mean like when you look at

30 million when you look how they SP as

well when you think about how much they

spent on even somebody like Fabi Vieira

it's it's excellent it's excellent value

I think Ard is their best player he is

not in my opinion their best player but

he is most certainly one of he what he

possesses is that unique rare quality

that not many players in the Premier

League have you know the ability to play

a pass that most footballers can't even

see like he he will play an assist that

for example Scott mom wouldn't know was

an option he will play an assist for

example in fact far better players than

that you know the way C fabri could do

it or Christian Erikson could do it in

his prime they will play that pass that

everyone in the stadium thinks it's a

bad ball and suddenly it's a goal he is

that kind of player and in the Premier

League there's so few and far between I

think Bernardo Silva has that quality I

think Kevin De bruyne obviously has that

quality I think Bruno Fernandez has that

quality and then you're sort of running

out of play you know that totally

unpredictable par Madison Palmer maybe

pass around the corner that nobody sees

I think he's gu's different great I want

to see more from him that's how good I

think he is

that's an interesting angle I think I

think there's something in that you know

don't you think he's been hampered by

the fact that the Wingers and shrikes

have been misfiring he goes missing in

too many big games when he's fully fit

the side of firing he goes missing in

big six games away from home in

particular when the pressure's on he

doesn't do enough in that role in my

opinion because I always think is you

know what you say you kind of look at it

and go thisy what boy said spot on but

some sometimes I feel like he's actually

making the chances and making but

they're just not getting taken in some

of those big games as well maybe he

would benefit you know if there was

obviously an Ian Wright type Arsenal

player now who was just pinging him in

obviously Martin OD God would have more

assists had more numbers and create have

created more goals and probably scored

more goals as well

um but overall he is undoubtedly I think

I think you're right you could say it is

it is Arsenal's best signing of the past

decade yeah since since have they made a

better sanche San Maybe I mean I think

none of them took them to a title

challenge really I know Alex Sanchez

should Alex Sanchez W fa cups there was

no no no no there was a year that they

were going to win the league cuz we

stopped them there you know the year

that we were terrible we beat them one n

away from home Diego cost scored yeah

Diego Costa scored to stop them winning

the league P was in goal for them so so

there has been moments but yeah I think

odard definitely the best player since

Sanchez def laka I mean we don't have to

really sit around too much on this one I

mean it's bottom tier in it there's not

there's not good enough yeah bottom tier

Ben White is been used in two positions

Center back right back million pound at

the time that was deemed quite High yeah

I was going to say sorry yeah it was

literally the same narative as Jon

Stones like it's kind of ball playing

Center back you know kind of came from

lower league football had SP leads and

obviously from Brighton and uh yeah I

think the money's well worth it he's

versatile he's quick he's mobile he's

great on the ball no he stays at club

for 10 years it's great value he did

very well didn't he you know obviously

when he was playing for I think he he

really developed under Bea yeah that

helped him yeah yeah um I think he's I

think he's good but I don't I don't

necessarily agree with how how kind the

pair of you are being regard I don't

think Ben White's top tier I think he

does the job I think he's top tier for

an plus the English tax you know for 50

million quid you get someone that could

be there's he's Dynamic can play

anywhere you know Center back right back

am I right in am I remember is correctly

start of the Season it was party at

right back right yeah but that was I

think to get more should you be worried

when you buy a center back and you play

him at right

back I think I think that's circumstance

no no he B to be he's bought to be a

center half but I think circumstance

dictated that he ended up at right back

and he did a valiant job there I I don't

necessarily see him being as good as

some Arsenal fans see him I think he's I

think he's fine what does he lack I

don't think he's I don't a little bit of

everything i'

yeah a little bit of everything I mean

I'm also probably hampered here I don't

Bally like him if I'm being totally

honest I don't like his stupid hair and

his silly little beard like they that's

like the girl from

benador is that her old woman do you

know the other thing do you know the

other thing that I find really

frustrating this is just a personal

thing but you know when footballers

lived the dream and playing football for

a living you know when they start

telling us that they don't want to be

footballers or they don't particularly

enjoy football they don't watch football

they don't like football I think shut up

wanker like it was it reminded me pretty

sure it was Ben fer I'm happily to be

corrected if I'm wrong Ben fer when he

left United come out was like they take

two seriously there yeah I'm

paraphrasing

what what are you want about so let's do

Ben White should we just say top tier

the value the longevity the age profile

I'm I'm I think does the job but I'm

happy because Arsenal fans love him I

think that's key to assign him being a

success yeah I'm happy if you want to

put him in a top tier yeah I don't like

him so I'm going to say a job but you're

probably right but you are he is out

voted by that point so maybe we should

put him into does a

job I think he's right I'm being the

election yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah stop

the

count um up next Aaron ramsdale now for

me the jury is still out on this fell

surely um say it's a big mistake by that

when a Keeper's gone a Keeper's gone

saying his head's gone mistake he's gone

forever booy bang on once a keeper it's

very rare you

gone bad she's gone

forever yeah you'll never be a world

class keeper and look there's two

versions of Arsenal Football Club it's

the kind of social media FC where we're

kind of printing banana banana uh kits

every week and doing PR releases fair

enough or it's the Arsenal that I

remember when I was a kid where all my

mates were Arsenal fans and they were

saying how big they were as a club they

tried to roll a penalty against Man City

the big old Arsenal hbri he's not an

Arsenal

keeper I i' actually in amongst in

amongst the DI tribe that was in amongst

all of that in amongst all of that he's

right he he's right whilst I agree and I

think you're right is it unfair to kind

of go he's not world class therefore is

a failure no because not 30 million quid

on him it's not only about him being

world class it's about it's about

everything about ramale now look two

years ago I thought he was immense in

the Premier League I really did I

thought he was truly brilliant last year

I think he had a very good season an

excellent season in fact it's gone so

wrong if I was having this conversation

12 months ago I would 100% say that he

is top tier you know captain of the top

tier potentially like absolute brilliant

signing got it so right against the odds

as well everybody laughed arteta was

right everybody said it was a waste of

money arteta was right everybody said

he's been relegated relegated relegated

Aleta was right now I'm not sure man I I

just can't believe how it's changed for

him I can't believe the the way that he

conduct himself in PR the way that Ian

wght looked at him in that interview

will haunt me it's it's a meme isn't it

you could put that you could put rri's

face there for anything you could put

Nuno tarez his recent clip and put

Wright's face there it's appropriate

more confused than when his old teacher

walked into the stadium yeah he took his

hat off yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you

can't concentrate mate it's an hour and

a half what you on about you know what

his thing is yeah there'll be a load of

narratives right if he's good enough his

distribution all these Awards he might

have won or whatever ultimately he

believed his own hype too early in his

career not even 30 years old yet where

where are you putting him cuz he's a

mistake okay he's a

mistake address is and push back yeah

cuz I think his jury's out still but

Rory started by going if this was last

year if this was the year before so

doesn't he deserve can I ask you a

question have you ever seen a a keeper

at a top top level Club recover from the

kind of poor for a keeper once I

remember at City Joe Hart lost it he

lost it to Willie cabalero never gone

once you're gone you're gone as a keeper

signed they spent a load of money on a

keeper to win the leav de recover when

he was came in young he didn't recover

not to the level to win you the league

and be the top top level keeper about

when he came in at the start and he was

a bit shaky and he recovered and he

became the best Keeper in the league but

that's still developing he was never

that's different circumstan yeah Ramel

was never the best in the in the league

he never gave himself the room to do it

does his signing because his signing has

got Arsenal into being a Champion League

what did they sign him for they sign him

to win the league you know I mean hang

on that's a good point what so as much

as I believe that he isn't the keeper

for the future and I think his conduct

lately has left me

baffled it can't be a mistake because

through him they had two very successful

Seasons they made it into the Champions

League they're playing in the Champions

League this season they're in the last

16 because of the form that ramsdale

displayed last season he cost them

points against Southampton the only side

they couldn't beat home and away in the

league side one of the worst sides we've

ever seen in the Premier League he gave

the ball away within 10 seconds at home

before ramale lenen Len is a better

keeper well Martinez is definitely

Martinez is better you know AR signed

David Sean in the early 90s and he went

on to win the league he's a good enough

keeper 25 million don't think he's a big

c a lot of

money not money it's not a lot of money

anymore the thing is but I think I think

the ram simply okay here here just to

understand you know if it goes wrong at

the end it doesn't make it a mistake if

there's been some good times along the

way or does it well as we're sat right

now he's not even first choice spent a

load of money on getting a title winning

keeper that's the goal for Arsenal to

get back to winning the title he's not

good enough to win them the title he

cost them the title last season but you

know if you have you know you signings

on that because when he was brought in

they wanted top four they wanted

Champions League they wanted to get back

if you have good times along the way I

don't think it necessarily means that

it's a

failure yeah that's fair enough that's

fair enough he has had maybe hold him to

two higher standards he has had some

good times along the way but what he

isn't anymore is top tier jury's out is

that fair no it's not jeury out we know

him we a jury jury is still out with

artetta he doesn't even know who best

keeper he he artetta can be a manager

for next 30 years he might win the

Champions League in his final 10 years

as a manager we don't know that ramel's

gone no but what I'm saying is arteta

don't even know what to

do or it suggests that Etta's management

isn't isn't up to scratch on this

particular debate the debate's over

where do you want R than W what are the

three categories we have again four

categories sorry um big waste of money

jury's out does the job perfect signing

big mistake I think he's a does a job I

think his jury's out I don't think his

jury's out because we know who he is

jury's out suggests that we're still

learning about him we're still unsure of

him people could say I think it's more

does the job than big mistake but I

think I still million he spent 35

million on Addison he wins US the league

The Following season you can't compare

everything to City it's like when you

know when people when Calvin Phillips is

a flop why isn't anyone criticizing City

because City are good and City are a

success the signning there Jud

comparison ramsdale on this list this is

the crazy thing as much as a lot of what

you said is true when you look down the

list at all of artetta signings ramsdale

is one of the success stories he's one

of the better ones maybe that's a damond

indictment on where Arsenal as a

football club if if I'm sat there

looking at ARS football club is

historical sense it's like but boo hang

on hang on it's not even my opinion here

look look at the list Beyond ramso look

at what you've got coming up you've got

the likes of we're going to talk about

Turner in a minute we're going to talk

about kwio in a minute we're going to

talk about georgino in a minute yeah

gein's come from Chelsea you know ramar

came from a relegated it's all relative

to where they came from it's all

relative to the clubs they the

trajectories of their career Geor has

already won the Champions League and he

he was brought in for experience ramale

was brought in to be a prime keeper to

get them over the line in big moments

and he hasn't done that yet that's what

I'm saying he hasn't done that yet won

the E I think it's too harsh it's a

mistake for me where do you want to put

him I think he does the job so I have

the final desire

involved I have to say does the job it's

more does the job than big mistake in my

opinion although I still think the

jury's out Aral fans what do you think

let us know in the comments let Tommy

ASU don't need but he was brought in for

about1 15 million he's I think there is

no more perfect definition of does a job

for aressa than Tommy Yu what about

Fabio Vie the worst he's had a mixed

time though because points last season

where they looked at him quite

positively he had a few assists didn't

work out didn't work out if he'd worked

they wouldn't have signed georginia they

would they might not have signed a few

other players he has let them down Fab

Vera at the bottom of the bottom the

lowest of the low the pits Matt Turner

the pits Fabio Fiera they need rid of it

do you know if I were to look at

everybody at that club now and you go

what player do they need out the club

who do they need to get out so they can

bring somebody in the answer

fa Matt Turner he's the worst people in

the league who cares isn't he just ably

be mental here though CU he was brought

in as a third choice goalkeeper or

something right he's rubbish the

job are you in the goet because he is

mental

CL cont in the league M Turner to be

ramsdale but he is mental crap like it's

it's not is he like a little bit out of

his depth or like you know when you know

when Chelsea's like third choice keeper

was um Ross Turnbull yeah it ain't like

that this gezer is an absolute joke all

right use that no more you're very

apologetic to Keepers man no but I'm

just Secret Keeper I just think

in what you go the end of the season no

he's weirdly good we need a goalie at

the end of the season We we played in a

in a we played in a poker tournament

um where I can't remember where we were

in Ireland he went and go he's mad good

w we won we beat all the pros in Ireland

and we won play on Saturdays and Sundays

Saturdays I'd play my usual position on

he's like the Mean Machine Geer you know

go he is monk monk yeah yeah he's a

Nutter in Gold you know just like flying

around on the floor I've sometimes been

compared to Jason Stam

actually um yeah I think you have to

judge the signings by the context in

what they were brought if he were

brought in as a third choice goal keep

but you can't judge him by the same

metrics as you would judge if the third

choice is rubbish he's rubbish all right

no but you're right in your usual logic

you are right if you're talking about

every other player in the league who

could be bought in as a third choice you

could be a bit kind to them but this is

mental like this is the worst goalkeeper

he's so bad man this is the worst

goalkeeper I might have ever seen okay

that's fine I didn't expect us to spend

so much time on Matt Turner Gabriel here

you're in love with him I I feel like

this is so obvious but you are going to

give me different I think it's so

obvious I think it's obvious as well we

say it together success a job no top no

top tier top tier top tier success story

but Arsenal fans are crying out for a

replacement right J he needs compliment

he needs aguer around him he needs more

you know Arsenal went out and they

signed him then they went out you

know as their maybe maybe that was a

mistake if they did do that I I still

think he's an excellent player I really

do he's a fantastic football I would go

so far as saying and a lot of people

would disagree with this but I would go

so far as saying that nobody in World

football can what Gabriel Jus does as

well as Gabriel Jus does it that very

particular position boy you're looking

like no no I'm just trying to think of

players you categorize him as what a

kind of clunky High pressing

Striker the L part trying B CL in the

sense that he's a little bit unorthodox

you know what I'm trying to say in terms

of in terms of leading the line running

the channels playing with his back to

goal pressing the opposition I think he

is superb I really do I think he's

Exquisite what he does is he slightly

wasteful in front of goal almost

definitely but at what he does he's

wicked but look at Liverpool they've got

jotter maybe similar a little bit and

then Nunes and and Diaz and GPO and

Salah he needs three or four he's got in

K bind him so what would you say then

say you were involved in Arsenal's

decision- making policy here you would

say bring in Ivan Tony and play two up

front or bring in Ivan Tony and play

Gabriel Jesus wide Jus bring ivanon

J to the bench where he was at City you

can't do that he's too good to no way

that he can sit on the bench better than

Martinelli on the left you don't think

off the left cutting in on his right he

was doing well last season he give he

would give a lot you buy a striker you

play him up front Mar's got three goals

this

season gabrius in it he's been injured

but could do you know what it would do

though it would give artetta the option

to maybe rest sacka when necessary rest

Martinelli when necessary point point

trying to make is we're talking about a

guy that was brought in and do Arsenal

finally have a number nine and now we're

going Arsenal still need a number nine

and they should play him on the left

that to me tells me it tells me that you

didn't understand Gabriel Jus when he

signed that's what it would well

like if you think that Gabriel jayus is

going to be Haren not even Haren numbers

Kane not even that Tony numbers he isn't

that no but he is not even he is

undroppable from that starting team I do

believe that he is undroppable I

disagree dang

J I think he does the job there's almost

zero teams in the Premier League that

Gabriel Jus doesn't get into with the

exception of man city where he didn't

get in although I

think wanted to keep him you know I

think pep let go granted I I think this

is kind of like the ramale thing where

you go when he came in it was a success

yeah straight out of the blocks turned

Arsenal in top four te whatever does

Gabriel Jus get in the Liverpool team no

think he does it's like saying does jot

get in he doesn't always start they they

have the rotation of he gets in ahead of

who's the bottom player the

FR start over him what I'm trying to

establish is Gabriel jayus I think

improves every single team in the

country with the exception of the team

he left yeah with by that logic it has

to be a good signing for Arsenal because

Arsenal have a player that would get

into every other no one here saying it's

a bad signing no top tier signing top

tier by getting into every other kind of

value in's Market if people are going is

it been two years it's been there sorry

18 months if after 18 months people are

going we missed a lot of chances don't

it we need another Striker and we need

let's go and spend 100 million on Ivan

Tony but that was the case before he

signed that's not his fault he didn't

need him and someone else but they

signed in they need they need in modern

football you need City got Highland and

Alvarez okay how much did they pay for

him uh 50 okay that's reasonable cheap

it's less than oand I think he's a good

player man when I wait sorry I didn't

say that correctly I think he is on this

list one of the better signings and

therefore top two I tend to agree with

that but I do think if you kind of look

at the situation now I think the

situation maybe because Arsenal have got

much better as a team but the

Situation's changed but yeah go on where

you want top tier top tier man okay top

tier gab I hope you don't disagree zenko

this little stinks man I thought he's

really good and he's

not he's a he's a you know we talk about

luxury players like Strikers or someone

like a Mee who's a luxury player for

example like I don't know why I said me

but you know these cre you always

mention meu you know one of your ghost

you know what I'm trying to say like one

of those luxury attacking players he's a

luxury Defender he's a good left back

when you're winning 4-0 and you can pop

the ball around nice and cute if you're

one- nil down at anfield mate he's one

of the worst in the whole division he

won I'd rather have the Wolves left back

Mike nuuri he's much better yeah he's

not do you know what I thought he was

when arteta signed him I think arteta

might have thought that this is what he

was signing as well you know sometimes

you sign a player for the football

footballer that they are but you can

also sign a player because of who they

are almost the man you sign a winner

when Chelsea signed Mark Hughes from

Manchester United We were signing an

excellent Center forward weirdly Center

forward that's kind of overlooked a bit

in terms of like great convers great

greatest Premier League players Mark

Hugh was fantastic but what Chelsea also

brought in was knowledge and knowhow and

fighting spirit and and total

understanding of what it takes to win

silverware but also go to anfield and

win go to Old Trafford and win we

brought in Mark Hughes who had that in

abundance we bought him rud hullet we

had that in abundance and therefore

Chelsea won trophies a couple of years

later a lot of them hulet comes in

Hughes comes in Chelsea end their 25e

wait for trophies simple science right

you bring in I thought zinenko was that

I thought zinenko was going to Arsenal

not only to be the left back but to be

the guy this is how we win away from

home in Europe This is how we win away

at anfield this is how we win away at

Man City yeah g a got a clue you

remember he was playing alongside

Vincent company and and Le and you know

Roger and fernandinho around him and now

instead he's playing with you know

georgino last season he's not been a

failure though right he was meant to be

the no failure he was meant to be the

guy the they a't won nothing since he's

landed right he was meant to take the

understanding of how to win silverware

with him they're no better off they're

no more clued up young team right

they're no more clued up on how to win

if anything there's times where he loses

his head when he should he loses his

head and he he he left to play midfield

he said that explicitly he's not good

enough for the Arsenal Midfield so it

has to be a failure

he's been shoved at left back like he

was at City yeah he left to play in

Midfield no but did Liverpool sorry did

Arsenal sign him to play midfield yeah I

remember people saying he was going to

rotate with granite Jack in that kind of

left Central Midfield role and tuck in

whenever and he's not good enough to

play midfield and he hasn't been when

he's popped into Midfield they've lost

the ball a lot I'm surprised by him you

know I thought he's much better player

yeah than yeah bottom run uh Leandro

trassard I think this one is so clear as

day does the job the job came in last

season when they needed to rest players

it was excellent for them they signed

him a bit

they signed him for it on a panic and

he's better than the player that they

didn't sign like they signed him because

they didn't get mud oh yeah yeah yeah

that was the whole thing do you remember

like the whole thing was Chelsea have

signed mudrick Chelsea have effectively

stolen mudrick from Arsenal we've won

we've won unlucky arsenal we got

lumbered with [ __ ] mudrick and they

got a GE at us good like he's not I

don't think Trad is he's don't think

he's exceptional groundbreaking is he no

I want I want more from him he does a

really good job I think he's quite

predictable yeah he is Cuts in every

time cuts in every single time but

overall put it this way I'd swap in for

Madrick yeah in hardbeat in a heartbeat

heartbeat yeah uh kir um he seems to

come in and deputize when there's a few

injuries or rotation he does okay I

think he a does the job fell is it does

the job he's not I never look at he

young as well thank god Arsenal bringing

him on cuz he's

crap full the other week really bad at

left I enjoy this play out position but

uh georgino of course weird cuz he

scored that goal against Villa remember

that oh he didn't score it was own goal

Emy Martinez cushan header yeah it was a

great shot wide it was going

wide techically it was off Target went

I'll take you for that I don't mind

slagging off georia he's crapping but

does he not do the job for them in the

sense that he's a backup bid the amount

of times he comes on and they capitulate

really yeah what soft I think is a

mistake I'd rather they they didn't sign

him and we smarter in the summer

following yeah he's a little weakly

is it too early to judge his signing He

he'll be out the door in the summer he

can't be too early he'd be leaving in

the summer yeah near gone done nothing

might this window slow down the if they

had any sense he'd leave this window

only he's unlikely to be there much more

than 18 months yeah so he's well and

truly he took a deal to keep his kids in

school in London in West London and all

no he's a useless P absolutely useless

KS he's he's him and Kai HS mistake for

georgino yeah K hav I think I think I

think the jur is stood out here because

he has done some very good things for

them he's also had some very big S qu

fight winner against brenford um he

scored a few goals for them he's close

to double figures and goals he's got a

few assists I don't think he's a

Midfield you know I think brenford I'm

going to put something on the table to

you both now you don't have to accept it

but let me make the case I I'm going to

remove ju's out from your options

because the jury isn't out you know

loads about Kai hav you've got a huge

amount of data to judge him on I don't

think you can say the jury's out you

know what he is you know what he's cap

of you know who he is I think if you say

jury's out you're really being cowardly

like him does the

job fair blade I'm taking it off the

table bollocks who are

you it's a big seriously what do you

guys think it's a mistake it's a mistake

cuz Arsenal fans love him they don't

they want to love him they desperate to

love him it's like us with Tes a we were

desperate to love him we so wanted it to

work because of everything that had gone

before wor it because of what it meant

because of the Liverpool does he not

bring something that they don't have in

terms of an aerial pres someone that can

get aerial pres i' be better in the air

than him he's a coward aerial presence

mate g a 6'3 drip drip

6'3 lanky streak of piss absolutely

nothing to a man whatsoever I tell you

he if there wasn't any starch in the

clothes that he wore he would he would

collapse he ain't got a [ __ ] spine

nah I agree spot on I'm out voted I

tried Arsenal drip you actually believe

that though I think he's done the job

for them he's taken them backwards a

lump of 65 million quid in the bank

account gone now Granny Jack was they

were a better team with Granny Jacker in

the te million perc Juan Timber it's

very unlucky this I think this one

started off as like this is going to be

top tier defo and now because he's been

out it's just jury's out back unfair to

judge Jud out but I think he'll be a top

signing it depends how that injury

affects him cuz it's a big one big he

relies on to see this this is the

perfect jury's out though isn't it yeah

yeah Dean rice obvious in it let's just

talk about how good he has been for us

this this is you talked about odard

being the best signing of the artetta

era I guarantee you there's a chance

odard flops he goes to Inter Milan on

Loan in the next couple years or

whatever honestly Dean rice will be a

main say in that Arsenal side for the

next five to 10 years the reason I

didn't say Dean rice was because he's

Tony he's a Tony Adams when you buy a

player for 100 million pounds plus you

expecting the I know we don't see that

often these days but you are expecting

the finished article and Dean R was kind

of a taing you knew he was going to be

yeah yeah but he has you say that you

say he's been a tapping and you knew how

good he was going to be I think you're

right on some level but to be totally

Frank with you deam rice has surprised

me with how good he is I I knew he's a

good player there's no surprise we've

seen him we we saw how brilliant he was

for England Fair few years ago now we

know that he can play at the highest

level we saw him win silverware last

year and the trajectory has been going

like that he's been cons his consistency

is improving everything was going

well all that considered he has actually

even better than I thought he would he

better the goal scoring the finishing

he's if you did a best Premier League 11

of this season it's impossible anybody

with a brain anybody with any sort of

semblance of sense would put Declan rice

in that and de bruyne in Midfield

instead of Bernard's a right winger do

you know I mean nobody in their right

mind would ever dream of leaving Declan

rice out of I loveed it when he scored

against you at Sanford bridge that was

that was beautiful

yeah cuz he he seemed destined for

Chelsea at a point he seemed destined

for Chelsea I mean in the end he turned

City down didn't he I think Declan r i I

love the idea of him coming to Chelsea

obviously there was a time when that

could have happened he was our player

when when he was very young his

friendship with Mason Mount at one point

it looked like reuniting those two made

nothing nothing but sense it's a real

shame that we didn't persevere with him

when he was a kid I think somebody

should lose their job you know if

whoever allowed him to leave has

obviously made a massive error um in in

parallel universe Booth are you are you

gutted you know when you think about the

problems that you've had at various

points this season season I know it's

looking good now but you know earlier in

the season losing games rogie was

suspended you didn't win without him

yeah it looked like Dean rice was going

to sign for you yeah yeah do you see

that as a missed opportunity no

obviously obviously City could sign any

any player and you could hold on to

everyone Leroy San and mahrez and gundan

Dean rice wanted to stay in London I

like the fact he's at a big club and he

can play every minute imagine he come to

City he's being rotated and he was maybe

a left back one day there's a world mate

pep did it with zlan Barcelona do you

what I mean it could have happened he

didn't like start and it would have

ruined him for England I think he would

too but as a world he plays him in a

double pivot injur you wouldn't missed R

well and and a booking as well but

there's a world that Guardiola doesn't

utilize him in the same way and the fact

he's a big fish in a smaller Pond de

rice is is fish a smaller P that's

that's I'm say small smaller p in terms

of what they can achieve on the pitch

this season and finally David Raya where

would you put him jury's out for me yeah

I agree with boo I it kind of it's kind

of tied into thearon ramale one isn't it

I think You' both been really nice hang

on signing David reyer is one of the you

think he had a knock on effect on RAM I

think I think if you try and find the

Genesis of certain problems Arsenal have

had this season I think you could

pinpoint it if the signing David ryer

they caused nothing but problem for

their backline nothing but problem for

their goalkeeping conversation nothing

but problems for their fans the fans are

all divided about David Ry you can't see

David Ry do something without

immediately thinking of ramsdale if

ramsdale does something you immediately

think of Ry would save it's caused

nothing but grief for what how much

better even gone now's fault like isn't

it a manager prerogative to have a

healthy Squad and bring in players to

keep his Squad at a top level yeah and

if your players can't handle that

competition that's their fault right

it's not manager's

fault and if the media the reason why

it's the manager's fault the the reason

why it's the manager's fault is because

there isn't really a distinction between

David R versus Aaron R I would have

thought there was before who who you

know you know a top was better than

ramale before he was fantastic I didn't

think last season no I've never rated

ramale think maybe maybe this

demonstrates the problem with their

signing because you thought that that

Rey was a better and you thought it was

a good signing I thought that ramale was

a better player and therefore why are

they sign so the fact that you and I

disagree like fairly passionately as

well I think if you would asked me at

the time I would have gone rare won't

getting that team ramale was undroppable

it caused problems but at brenford what

rare did at brenford was superb kept

them in the league was one of their star

players alongside Erikson and Tony at if

ramale was at brenford they would have

struggled they would have been worse and

we we've got proof of that at

Bournemouth and at shef United I don't

know if that's he's already been in the

Premier League been relegated out the Le

I feel like it's a bit unfair to compare

what he would do at brenford to what he

would do at Sheffield and also he was

playing at a higher level he was playing

at a higher level succeeding the the

debate has gone under the radar that's

what I'd say this Narrative of watching

ramsdale Clapp in and all that that

happened months ago now the last few

games reaya has been decent overall I

think d r is going to work out he will

become the number one Aaron ramsdale

will leave and I think it will all be

fine but as a signing I think it's

something that you could say is a

mistake from meletta you could argue as

that it's not the timing of the mistake

it's not big enough Improvement to cause

that exactly you know sign Allison and

let ramsdale go nuts D but you're

signing a keeper that he's not even

necessarily better than yeah to upset

the apple cart for what and Aaron Ramer

would definitely go I'm better than him

of course you know like if it's no no if

you're the guy

okay I get it exactly no you can't

understand it it's like why have you do

you think it's a mistake I think it's a

mistake I think it's a mistake now I

think it could go on to be a successful

player or a successful signing but

judging it on today I'll do jues out

then for that I can live with I can live

with jues out yeah