What’s Next for Our Fertility Journey After a Failed Embryo Transfer??

Jessi & Alessio
1 Aug 202411:42

Summary

TLDRIn this video, the couple candidly shares their emotional journey through an unsuccessful IVF attempt. They discuss their varied reactions to the news, emphasizing the importance of being prepared for any outcome. Despite the setback, they remain hopeful, planning for a second embryo transfer while addressing misconceptions about post-transfer activities like flying. The video also clarifies that natural conception is not an option due to the removal of the Fallopian tubes, and they express gratitude for having any embryos at all after a challenging retrieval process.

Takeaways

  • 😔 The couple experienced disappointment and sadness after an unsuccessful IVF attempt.
  • 🤔 They acknowledge that people deal with emotional outcomes like shock and grief in different ways.
  • 🌟 The importance of being prepared for any outcome in IVF is emphasized, as success can vary greatly between rounds.
  • 🧘 Alesia felt a strong sense of hope leading up to the test but also experienced a sudden feeling of disconnection.
  • 🤰 The couple received advice from their doctors that flying after the embryo transfer was safe and followed it.
  • 👩‍⚕️ They clarified that the Italian medical guidelines allowed for normal activities, including flying, after 24 hours of the procedure.
  • 🚫 Jesse no longer has Fallopian tubes due to surgeries related to endometriosis, making natural conception impossible.
  • 💊 The necessity of immediate medical intervention with progesterone is highlighted to prevent the return of endometriosis.
  • 🌱 Despite the lower quality of the remaining embryo, there is still hope for a successful pregnancy as embryo grading does not always predict success.
  • 🌍 The couple plans to return to Italy quickly for the next embryo transfer, considering the constraints of their medical situation.
  • 🔄 They are considering another egg retrieval if the second transfer fails, due to the Italian regulations requiring all available embryos to be transferred first.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of the video?

    -The main topic of the video is the couple's experience with an unsuccessful IVF (In Vitro Fertilization) attempt and their feelings about it.

  • How did Jesse feel about the unsuccessful IVF attempt?

    -Jesse felt sad and disappointed but was prepared for either outcome, trying to be optimistic and hopeful.

  • How did Alesia feel when she realized the IVF attempt was unsuccessful?

    -Alesia felt speechless and disconnected, experiencing a shift inside her that she couldn't explain.

  • What was Alesia's initial reaction to the test results?

    -Alesia was initially in denial, hoping to see a positive result and trying to justify the lack of a visible line on the test.

  • Why was Jesse apologizing in the video?

    -Jesse was apologizing because she felt she had pushed Alesia to look at the test results before he might have been ready, and she was sorry to see him upset.

  • What was the couple's stance on flying after the embryo transfer?

    -The couple flew the day after the embryo transfer, as their doctors told them it was totally okay and they wanted to be cautious for their own comfort.

  • Why did the couple not consider taking a break from IVF?

    -They could not take a break because Jesse no longer has Fallopian tubes due to endometriosis, making natural conception impossible, and they need to prevent the endometriosis from coming back.

  • What is the next step for the couple in their IVF journey?

    -The next step is to try the second embryo implantation, and if that fails, they plan to do another egg retrieval.

  • Why can't the couple do another egg retrieval immediately?

    -In Italy, they are not allowed to do any kind of IVF treatment, including egg collection, until all available embryos have been transferred.

  • What was the quality of the embryos they had after the egg retrieval in November?

    -They had two embryos, one of which was of lower quality on day six, but they were grateful to have any embryos at all after the difficulties with endometriosis.

  • How does the couple feel about the possibility of the second embryo not being successful?

    -They are being realistic about the lower chances but still holding onto hope and planning to try their very best.

Outlines

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😔 Emotions and Experiences After Unsuccessful IVF

The first paragraph discusses the emotional aftermath of an unsuccessful IVF attempt. The speakers, Jesse and Alesia, share their feelings of disappointment and sadness, emphasizing the importance of being prepared for any outcome in the IVF process. They describe their individual reactions to the failed attempt, with Jesse feeling prepared for the possibility and Alesia experiencing a sense of disconnection and shock. They also address the raw emotions captured in a video, explaining that people deal with grief in different ways. Additionally, Jesse clarifies that she was apologizing in the video not because she felt she had failed, but because she was sorry to see Alesia upset.

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🛫 Clarifications on Post-IVF Activities and Flying

In the second paragraph, the couple addresses misconceptions about post-IVF activities, specifically regarding flying after the procedure. They explain that their doctors advised that flying was safe and that they were not engaging in strenuous activities for 24 hours post-transfer. They refute comments suggesting they should not have flown, stating that they consulted with their doctors and chose what they felt most comfortable with. The paragraph also touches on the importance of normal activity for blood flow to the uterus and the couple's decision to be cautious for their own comfort.

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🌱 Hope and Plans for the Next IVF Steps

The final paragraph focuses on the couple's gratitude for having embryos after their retrieval process, considering the challenges they faced due to endometriosis. They express their intention to try the second embryo transfer, being realistic about the lower chances of success but still hopeful. The paragraph outlines their plans to travel to Italy for the transfer, driven by the need to act quickly due to the risk of endometriosis returning. They also mention the Italian regulations that require all available embryos to be transferred before any further IVF treatments can occur. The couple concludes by acknowledging the emotional ups and downs of the IVF journey and thanks their supporters for their ongoing encouragement.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡IVF (In Vitro Fertilization)

IVF is a medical process where eggs are fertilized by sperm outside the body, and the resulting embryos are then implanted into the uterus. In the video's context, it is the primary method the couple is using to conceive due to the female partner's medical condition. The theme of the video revolves around the couple's experience with IVF, their emotional journey, and the challenges they face.

💡Unsuccessful

The term 'unsuccessful' refers to the outcome of an attempt that did not achieve the desired result. In the video, the couple discusses their feelings after an unsuccessful IVF attempt, highlighting the emotional impact and the need to prepare for all potential outcomes.

💡Optimism

Optimism is a positive attitude or outlook that anticipates a successful outcome. The couple in the video tries to maintain optimism throughout their IVF journey, even in the face of an unsuccessful attempt, as a way to cope with the uncertainty and emotional stress.

💡Grief

Grief is a deep emotional response to loss or disappointment. The script mentions grief in relation to the couple's reaction to the unsuccessful IVF attempt, showing how they are affected emotionally and the different ways they cope with the situation.

💡Raw Moment

A 'raw moment' refers to an unfiltered, genuine emotional experience. The video aims to show the raw moments the couple experiences, including their reactions to the IVF outcome, to provide an authentic portrayal of their journey.

💡Endometriosis

Endometriosis is a medical condition where tissue similar to the lining of the uterus grows outside the uterus, causing pain and complications with fertility. The female partner in the video has endometriosis, which has affected her fertility and necessitated the removal of her fallopian tubes, making IVF their only option for conception.

💡Embryo Transfer

Embryo transfer is the final step in the IVF process where the embryo is placed into the uterus. The script discusses the timing and circumstances around the couple's embryo transfer, including the advice they received from their doctors and their subsequent actions.

💡Progesterone

Progesterone is a hormone that helps prepare the uterus for pregnancy and maintain it during early pregnancy. In the video, the female partner mentions the need for progesterone to prevent the recurrence of endometriosis after the unsuccessful IVF attempt.

💡Egg Retrieval

Egg retrieval is the process of collecting eggs from the ovaries during IVF. The couple discusses the challenges they faced during egg retrieval due to endometriosis and the limited number of viable embryos they were able to obtain.

💡Quality of Embryo

The quality of an embryo refers to its developmental potential and the likelihood of leading to a successful pregnancy. The video script mentions that even though their embryo was not of the highest quality, there is still a chance for a successful pregnancy, as evidenced by other patients' experiences.

💡Support

Support in this context refers to the encouragement and understanding received from others, particularly the viewers of the video. The couple expresses gratitude for the support they have received and acknowledges the importance of a supportive community during their IVF journey.

Highlights

The video discusses the emotional journey of an unsuccessful IVF attempt.

Jesse expresses her preparedness for any outcome but admits to feeling sad about the failure.

Alesia describes her initial hope and eventual disconnection feeling before the negative result.

The couple emphasizes the importance of showing raw moments in their IVF journey.

Different coping mechanisms for grief and shock are mentioned, with Alesia being speechless and Jesse being more prepared.

Jesse clarifies that her apologies in the video were for causing emotional distress, not for failing.

The video addresses misconceptions about flying after an embryo transfer, stating that it was medically advised and safe.

Jesse explains the recommended 24-hour rest period post-transfer and the importance of normal activity for blood flow.

The couple dismisses the idea of taking a break from IVF due to Jesse's medical condition and the urgency of treatment.

Alesia and Jesse share their gratitude for having two embryos despite the challenges posed by endometriosis.

The couple acknowledges the lower chances of success with their second embryo due to its quality but remains hopeful.

The video explains the Italian IVF regulations that require all available embryos to be transferred before any further treatments.

Jesse shares her experience of feeling disconnected on the day of the test, indicating a premonition of the outcome.

The couple discusses the variability of embryo quality and the unpredictability of IVF success rates.

Alesia and Jesse express their commitment to each other and their journey, despite the ups and downs of IVF.

The video concludes with a message of thanks to their supporters and a look forward to the next update.

Transcripts

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Chi welcome to another video so this

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video we're talking about our next step

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but first we want to tell you how we

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feeling so actually Jesse how you feel

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about the this unsuccessful so I was

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obviously sad but I went into it

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prepared for either outcome um obviously

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trying to be optimistic and hopeful so I

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was disappointed that it didn't work but

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like we said all the time guys we want

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to show you the Raw

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moment that we experience when it

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happens and obviously like you see saw

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in the video people deal with shock and

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grief in different ways so Alesia was

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speechless I was a little bit more

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prepared in that moment and it was sad

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but you know I think what's important to

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know when you start IVF is anything can

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happen you know you can be successful

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the first round you can be successful

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the seventh round or you can be

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unsuccessful so we're trying to go into

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it prepared all the potential outcome so

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how did you feel in well I need to say I

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prepare my eight days with big hope I

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was prepared like it's going to happen

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it's going to happen it's going to

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happen and at one point I need when we

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was discussing with Jesse can you don't

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see that in that week Jesse was feeling

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it's not happening because sometimes her

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she can feel her body there was

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something that happened like we had our

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transfer on a Monday and Saturday is

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like all through that week I was like

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feeling like yes yes we got it and

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Saturday it was just suddenly I felt

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disconnected I can't explain it I just

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had a feeling I was like it's not there

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I can't explain to you but it was just

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like almost a shift that I felt inside

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of me and I kind of had this expectation

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that it wasn't successful and in my side

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what I was uh say it is I was so

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building this expectation yes it's going

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to happen I was trying to be super

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positive and at one point I don't want

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to know the

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news no it's okay I'm sorry for you too

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but I was no want arrive the day and

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Jesse said let's do a test for no

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because tomorrow we have the blood test

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we're going to no no because they're not

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going to give us the results like in

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Italy immediately and in my heart I was

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say no I want to wait I want to give

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this day because I don't want to arrive

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to the to the actually day to say yes or

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no when was no

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was uh really rough still rough a little

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bit it's rough because you look in that

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little thing and then it's not the line

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and your eyes are like am I blind is the

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line there and I just can't see it am I

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just like shock but no it's not that and

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then the emotion was like uh in my brain

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was like to

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say surre I want

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like like

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um it's not happy like you maybe we need

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to wait 5 hours my brain will say let's

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wait let's wait let's wait trying to

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just come up with justification I saw I

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know I was off and then a lot of videos

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getting upset here okay I'm sorry I

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can't make you sad but but a lot of

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people then they

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see take your

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time really just take your time

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deadline

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RI trauma I want to say something really

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fast too in that has to do with that so

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you saw me saying I'm sorry I'm sorry

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I'm sorry a lot in the video and I just

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wanted to clarify that I wasn't

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apologizing because I felt like I failed

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aleso or that my body had failed I dealt

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with those emotions early on in our

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trying to conceive journey and I did go

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through times where I felt like this was

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all my fault but what you saw me

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apologizing there in the video was when

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I saw him upset I was apologizing cuz I

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felt like I pushed him to look at the

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test results before he might have been

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ready and I was just sorry that he was

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sad and I could see his emotions and I

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just I wanted to apologize for him being

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sad just in general you know like I mean

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I

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just I mean I was supposed to be even in

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that moment my brain closed cry just no

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it's okay you did Jesse did so so good

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in all the situation I want to just

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adjust some little things that don't

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like it too much but like um some people

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said oh she she not supposed to be to

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fly I want to just adjust one thing

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about it the fly the doctors told us get

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flying was totally totally okay and we

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fly the day after so usually when you do

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the plantation it is 10 minutes there

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and then it's 24 hours 24 hours okay

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what they recommended it is for 24 hours

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don't do uh strenuous exercise exercise

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so jumping running uh go to the gym

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solvate heavy stuff and but you can fly

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you can fly it's not because the

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attitude is different from the body no

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because the embryo it is actually

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sticking to the to the uters you know

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and then stay there and then after 24

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hours the to ask is really hard pull out

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it's not going to jump like bump out

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yeah so some people say you can start uh

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normal activity in the evening but we

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wait uh for to be more cautious for our

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own comfort for our own Comfort but they

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also said to make sure that we didn't

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just stay in bed all the time because

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it's a misconception because your uterus

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needs blood flow so do walking do normal

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activity house like light walking you're

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your life but blend like not jumping not

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that stuff so so and you know we were on

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an international flight so there was a

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lot of time where I was just resting in

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the plane so yeah like Alesia said we

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saw some people um say like oh you

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shouldn't have done this you shouldn't

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have done that we've talked to our

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doctors and weit our own op options and

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we always choose what we feel the most

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comfortable with so you guys have to

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trust us with that and most people do

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for sure most people are totally amazing

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and kind and supportive so I just want

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to say that too well we want to address

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that because of course people say oh you

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fly because people thinking can fly it

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is danger Dangerous and before I knew I

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probably would have thought that also

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yeah me too oh it's probably not good

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but actually they told us the doctor no

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don't feel in that trap you need to act

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normal walking all that stuff and I

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talked with other people who've done IVF

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abroad in different countries different

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areas and they all fly right after or

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the day of or a couple days later and

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many have had success so just because

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ours wasn't successful doesn't mean that

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it was because of the the plane ride

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yeah I also wanted to confirm one other

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thing with you guys that I saw a few

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times in the comments people were trying

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to encourage me to just take a break

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from IVF try naturally for a couple of

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Cycles oh make sure the stress is down

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because as soon as you stop trying

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you're you're going to do it to remind

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you guys I no longer have Fallopian

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tubes one was removed in my surgery in

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January and one was removed in the

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surgery we did in June in and because of

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the endometriosis it totally destroyed

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both sides of my tubes they were Twisted

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gnarled knotted up full of fluid full of

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blood totally not salvageable so they

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had to remove them in order to increase

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our chances for IVF because if you have

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these tubes that are full of yucky stuff

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it can leak out and it can harm the

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embryo it can harm implantations so for

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us they said these have to get out I

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don't have floian tubes anymore there is

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no chance for us to conceive naturally

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even if we tried it's not going to

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happen and then we need to go

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immediately in the medicine progesterone

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to prevent endometriosis so it's another

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thing we cannot in hard situation we

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canot chill about it oh let's take a

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break the two months and this happening

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no because we have no fop to the

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endometriosis can come back the next

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step it is try to do the second

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implantation again but

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unfortunately but keep in mind this

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chance it is lower from the other chance

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because our embryo unfortunately the

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quality it is day six but this no means

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that this not going to happen Okay

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because it's yes it is um not the best

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embryo can we have a possibility but the

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doctors told us you know I a patient

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with four EGS three amazing and one not

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good the three amazing all the fail the

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last one and she didn't even the patient

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didn't even want to transfer that embryo

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and the doctor said let's try let's try

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and then and that was the one that had

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the baby so the the metric because the

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embryos is different from every Clinic

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cuz sometimes you can have an a grade

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that doesn't have normal chromosomes so

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it will never develop pregnanc and you

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can have a c quality that is normal

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chromosomes and does obviously the

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chances are lower based on the lower

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grades but it's still possible so we are

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so so grateful that we even ended up

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with two embryos after our egg retrieval

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in November after with all the endom

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materials she have remember she have

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theist we have so many eggs we cannot

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collect we can just cleap uh that much

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but then endomet attack the egg so no uh

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fluid no blood flow FL so was a little

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bit tricky so it's already a miracle

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that we have embos so we are so grateful

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because so many people don't end up with

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embryos after retrieval so unfortunately

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our first one didn't take we're going to

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try the second one try second we're

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being realistic about it because the

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chances are lower but we're still

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obviously going to Hope and try our very

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best yeah very best but we are thinking

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about that as we go into it so hard plan

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it is now we're going to looking now the

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flight we're going to try to go fast in

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Italy try to do this uh transfer we go

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fast not because we are uh want to do

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fast we go fast for the endometriosi can

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on coming back then if this going to

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fail we're going to try another round

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egg retrieval so you ask why you don't

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do egg retrieval now and then you not

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going to uh do later you know the

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transfer because in Italy it's a l okay

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first you need to finish all the eggs

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and then you can redoing retrieval retal

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basically because we still have an

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embryo Frozen we're not allowed to do

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any kind of IVF treatment no egg

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collection even if they just froze my

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eggs it's just not allowed there so we

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have to transfer all available embryos

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before yeah doing anything else this is

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our story now we going we are feeling

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better yeah thinking about it's a little

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bit in motion but this the IVF it is up

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and downs but and down every hour we're

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going to go through like always together

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I've been I'm sorry been ging this whole

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time always together and thank you guys

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for supporting us until the next update

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ciao

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