Alkaline Water Ionizers vs. Hydrogen Water Machines: How They Work - Ep. 66
Summary
TLDRThis video script explores the debate between hydrogen water and alkaline water, explaining the science behind electrolysis and the differences between alkaline water ionizers and hydrogen water generators. It breaks down the process of electrolysis, discusses the pros and cons of each system, and highlights the benefits and limitations of each in producing therapeutic levels of hydrogen-rich water.
Takeaways
- 💧 Hydrogen water and alkaline water are often compared among enthusiasts, with key differences in the machines that produce them.
- ⚡ Electrolysis is a crucial process in both hydrogen and alkaline water systems, involving the decomposition of water into hydrogen and oxygen gases.
- 🧪 In electrolysis, a negative electrode (cathode) and a positive electrode (anode) are used, where hydrogen gas is produced at the cathode and oxygen gas at the anode.
- 🌊 Alkaline water ionizers work by creating a higher pH water through the production of hydrogen gas and hydroxide ions.
- 🔋 Hydrogen water generators use a proton exchange membrane (PEM) that allows for the production of hydrogen gas without altering the water's pH.
- 💧 PEM technology in hydrogen water generators is not dependent on the water's conductivity, allowing for more consistent hydrogen concentrations.
- 👍 Alkaline water ionizers are well-established, capable of producing large volumes of hydrogen water quickly and can also produce disinfectant water.
- 👎 However, ionizers can be inconsistent and unreliable in dissolved hydrogen levels, depending heavily on source water conductivity.
- 👍 Hydrogen water generators generally produce higher and more consistent hydrogen concentrations and require less water to achieve therapeutic levels.
- 👎 Hydrogen water generators typically have a lower dispensing flow rate and may have limited applications for cleaning and descaling.
Q & A
What is the main topic of the video script?
-The main topic of the video script is the comparison between hydrogen water and alkaline water, focusing on the differences in the machines that produce these types of water and the pros and cons of each.
What is electrolysis and how is it related to water purification?
-Electrolysis is the decomposition of water into its natural elements by running an electrical current through it. It is related to water purification as it is the process used by most alkaline or hydrogen water systems to produce hydrogen-rich or alkaline water.
What are the two main electrodes involved in water electrolysis?
-The two main electrodes involved in water electrolysis are the cathode (negative electrode) and the anode (positive electrode).
What is the acronym 'OIL RIG' used to remember in the context of electrolysis?
-The acronym 'OIL RIG' stands for 'Oxidation Is Loss' meaning loss of electrons, and 'Reduction Is Gain' meaning gaining of electrons, which helps to remember the process of electrolysis.
What is produced at the cathode during electrolysis?
-Hydrogen gas is produced at the cathode during electrolysis through a process called reduction, where electrons are supplied to the water.
What is the alkaline component of water produced during electrolysis?
-The alkaline component of water produced during electrolysis is hydroxide ions (OH-), which results from water molecules losing a proton when electrons are supplied by the cathode.
What is the role of the ionic membrane in an alkaline water ionizer?
-The ionic membrane in an alkaline water ionizer keeps the water stream separate but allows electrons to flow through, facilitating the production of alkaline water at the cathode side and acidic water at the anode side.
What are the pros and cons of alkaline water ionizers mentioned in the script?
-Pros include well-established technology, ability to produce large volumes of H2 water quickly, and the production of disinfectant water with hypochlorous acid. Cons include inconsistency and unreliability in dissolved hydrogen levels, dependency on source water conductivity, and potential issues with scaling or pH levels above safety regulations.
What is a PEM SPE water cell and how does it differ from conventional water electrolysis?
-A PEM SPE water cell is a special type of cell used in hydrogen water generators, where PEM stands for Proton Exchange Membrane and SPE stands for Solid Polymer Electrolyte. It differs from conventional water electrolysis by not relying on the conductivity of the water and allowing for the production of hydrogen-rich water without altering the pH.
What are the advantages of hydrogen water generators over alkaline water ionizers?
-Hydrogen water generators offer advantages such as not requiring as much water to ingest for a therapeutic level of H2, not relying on source water conductivity, using dissolver technology for higher dissolved hydrogen concentrations, and being simpler to use with less maintenance.
What are the disadvantages of hydrogen water generators mentioned in the script?
-The disadvantages of hydrogen water generators include a lower dispensing flow rate, which means it takes longer to fill a glass of water, and limited applications for cleaning and descaling, although less maintenance is required due to fewer reasons for cleaning or descaling.
Outlines
🧪 Understanding Hydrogen and Alkaline Water Production
This paragraph introduces the topic of the debate surrounding hydrogen water versus alkaline water, highlighting the differences in the machines that produce them. The script promises to break down the workings of these systems and their pros and cons, allowing viewers to make informed decisions. It acknowledges the support of Patreon patrons, emphasizing the value of their contribution to the production of free educational content. The script also introduces the concept of electrolysis, explaining it as the decomposition of water into its natural elements through the application of an electrical current, and distinguishing between the cathode and anode in the process. It uses the acronym 'OIL RIG' to help remember the process of oxidation and reduction. The paragraph concludes with a visual explanation of water electrolysis in alkaline water ionizers, describing the formation of hydrogen gas at the cathode and oxygen gas at the anode, and the resulting pH changes due to the production of hydroxide ions.
💧 Pros and Cons of Alkaline Water Ionizers
This paragraph delves into the advantages and disadvantages of alkaline water ionizers, which have been established for a long time and can produce large volumes of hydrogen-rich water quickly. The pros include the ability to produce disinfectant water with hypochlorous acid and the technology's reliability. However, the cons are significant: the machines are inconsistent and unreliable in terms of dissolved hydrogen levels, highly dependent on the source water's conductivity. They also do not incorporate any technology to enhance hydrogen dissolution and can produce water with a pH above safety regulations. The paragraph also mentions the need for fine-tuning the flow rate to maximize dissolved hydrogen levels and the potential for scaling due to the high pH of the water.
🌐 Introduction to Hydrogen Water Generators
The script introduces a newer type of water machine known as hydrogen water generators or hydrogen infusion machines, which use a special PEM (Proton Exchange Membrane) SPE (Solid Polymer Electrolyte) water cell to produce hydrogen water. The technology allows for the production of hydrogen water regardless of the source water conditions and does not alter the pH of the water. These devices typically produce hydrogen water with a consistent therapeutic concentration of dissolved hydrogen. The paragraph explains the process of electrolysis in a hydrogen water generator using a PEM, contrasting it with conventional water electrolysis and detailing the storage and transfer of hydrogen cations across the membrane. The script also describes how hydrogen gas is either transferred to a dissolver chamber or immediately dissolved into the water, depending on the type of generator.
🚰 Evaluating Hydrogen Water Generators' Benefits and Limitations
This paragraph outlines the benefits and limitations of hydrogen water generators. The pros include the requirement of less water to ingest for a therapeutic level of H2, independence from source water conductivity, the use of dissolver technology for higher dissolved hydrogen concentrations, and the simplicity and low maintenance of the systems. The cons include a lower dispensing flow rate, which means it takes longer to fill a glass, and limited applications for cleaning and descaling, although the need for maintenance is reduced. The script concludes by inviting viewers to consider which type of water generator might be better for drinking hydrogen water and encourages engagement through comments, subscription, and notifications.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Hydrogen Water
💡Alkaline Water
💡Electrolysis
💡Cathode
💡Anode
💡Oxidation
💡Reduction
💡pH
💡Hydrogen Water Generator
💡PEM (Proton Exchange Membrane)
💡Dissolved Hydrogen
Highlights
The video discusses the differences between hydrogen water and alkaline water, and the machines that produce them.
Electrolysis is the decomposition of water into its natural elements, a process used in most alkaline or hydrogen systems.
In electrolysis, a cathode produces hydrogen gas through reduction, while an anode produces oxygen gas through oxidation.
The acronym 'OIL RIG' helps remember the process: Oxidation is Loss, Reduction is Gain of electrons.
Alkaline water ionizers produce drinking water from the cathode side, which is rich in hydroxide ions, resulting in a higher pH.
Hydrogen atoms produced are too reactive to exist alone, forming molecular hydrogen (H2).
Conventional water ionizers were designed to produce alkaline water, not hydrogen-rich water.
Pros of water ionizers include well-established technology and the ability to produce large volumes of H2 water quickly.
Cons include inconsistency in dissolved hydrogen levels and dependency on source water conductivity.
Hydrogen water generators or infusion machines use a special PEM (Proton Exchange Membrane) for producing hydrogen water.
PEM membranes allow for hydrogen cations and electrons to transfer across, producing hydrogen gas regardless of water conditions.
Hydrogen water generators produce more consistent therapeutic concentrations of dissolved H2.
These devices do not alter the pH of the water and can produce higher concentrations of dissolved H2.
Pros of hydrogen water generators include requiring less water for a therapeutic dose of H2 and not relying on source water conductivity.
Cons include a lower dispensing flow rate and limited applications for cleaning and descaling.
The video aims to provide clarity on the workings of these systems to help viewers discern truth from false claims about hydrogen water.
The presenter invites viewers to share their opinion on which type of water generator is better for drinking hydrogen water.
Transcripts
is hydrogen water better than alkaline
water this seems to be a popular
discussion Point amongst water
enthusiasts what most people don't know
is the differences between the machines
that produce these Waters in this video
I'm going to break down how these
systems work and the pros and cons of
both of them so that you can make the
decision for yourself first a big thank
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as well to continue to share the good
news about hydrogen to the masses so
let's get down to business how many of
you know what electrolysis is big word
right but that is how most alkaline or
hydrogen systems work and so that is one
of the main things we will discuss
electrolysis is a decomposition of water
into its natural elements this is done
by running an electrical current through
water now with conventional water
electrolysis you must have ions present
but we'll get into that later in
electrolysis there is always a negative
electrode called the cathode and a
positive Electro called the anode
hydrogen gas is produced at the cathode
through the process called reduction
this is where electrons are supplied and
oxygen gas is produced at the anode
through oxidation which is where
electrons are removed hydrogen gas and
oxygen gas are produced at the same time
a helpful acronym to remember how the
process works is oil rig which stands
for oxidation is loss meaning loss of
electrons and reduction is gain meaning
gaining of electrons now that all might
sound confusing but what better way to
help you understand it than with
pictures first I'm going to show you how
water electrolysis Works in an alkaline
water ionizing over here is the cathode
or the negative electrode and on this
side is the anode or the positive
electrode in the middle is an ionic
membrane to keep the water stream
separate but allows electrons to flow
through first we're going to break down
the cathode side which is referred to as
the catholite this is where the drinking
water comes from so first we see the
water molecules come in which are of
course H2O next we see electrons coming
off the cathode into the water those
electrons then attract protons off of
the water molecules forming hydrogen
atoms with that proton missing those
water molecules are now hydroxide or oh
minus this is the alkaline component of
water and it is for this reason that
this water has a higher pH the higher pH
of the water is truly a byproduct of
producing Hydro engine gas through
electrolysis and because hydrogen is a
diatomic element hydrogen atoms are too
reactive to Exist by themselves so they
find a friend in each other and form
molecular hydrogen or H2 by the way I
broke this process down into stages so
you can really see what's happening in
electrolysis but in reality this process
is happening instantaneously to
trillions of molecules so if you're
familiar with alkaline water ionizers
this is what's happened to the water
that's coming out of the top hose now
let's look at the anode or the positive
Electro this water is often dispensed
through a hose from the bottom of the
machine so on the anode we start with
hydroxide hydroxide the outcome
component of water is always present in
water just like the acidic component
which is hydrogen cations now when the
hydroxide is oxidized at the end node it
loses electrons which leaves oxygen
atoms and hydrogen cations hydrogen
cations are simply protons and the first
form of hydrogen there are technically
four forms of hydrogen not including its
Isotopes which we discuss in this
classic video here oxygen is also a
diatomic element so the oxygen atoms
bond together to form oxygen gas or O2
and the remaining protons are the reason
this water has an acidic pH all
conventional water ionizers produce a
form of hydrogen Rich water called
electrolyzed reduced water ionizes were
around for years before hydrogen gas was
discovered to be the sole reason this
water has therapeutic benefits so this
technology was mainly created to produce
alkaline water not hydrogen Rich water
so with that being said let's discuss
some of the pros and cons of these types
of water machines starting with the pros
the technology has been around for a
long time so it's well established it
can generally produce large volumes of
H2 water quickly and upwards of two to
four liters per minute and they can
produce a disinfectant water which has
levels of hypochlorous acid a very
strong killing agent although it's not
optimally designed for producing this
killing agent and not all ionizers have
this function I actually explained this
in detail with this video talking about
what's really going on with the special
Waters in these machines now to the cons
water ionizers are inconsistent and
unreliable in terms of dissolved
hydrogen levels they are highly
dependent on Source water conductivity
or minerals for H2 production they
typically exhibit lower dissolved issue
concentrations at least while
maintaining a pH that's safe to drink
because the hydrogen concentrations can
be so low you may have to drink a
significant amount of water to get a
therapeutic dose of hydrogen they do not
incorporate any type of dissolver
technology to help hydrogen dissolve
into the water better the higher
electrical current produces larger issue
bubbles which will not dissolve into the
water as well higher pH of the water
promotes scaling or calcium
precipitation you may need to fine-tune
the flow rate to maximize to dissolve H2
levels they can produce H2 water with a
pH above safety regulations we went into
even more depth with these two videos
the truth about ionized water and the
problem with water ionizers definitely
go check those videos out so now let's
look at the newest iteration of water
machines on the market these can be
referred to as hydrogen water generators
or hydrogen infusion machines they use a
special p e m spe water cell for
producing hydrogen water if you have
heard of these types of generators you
may have heard of these letters being
spoken of but maybe didn't know what
they meant pem stands for proton
exchange membrane which refers to the
purpose of the membrane they exchange
protons and spe stands for solid polymer
electrolyte which refers to what it is
which is basically a polymer material
with embedded electrolytes and allows
hydrogen cations and electrons to
transfer across the membrane the
membrane itself is conductive and does
not rely on the conductivity of the
water this allows these devices to
produce H2 regardless of the source
water conditions and they produce issue
water without altering the pH these
devices generally produce an issue
concentration of 0.5 milligrams per
liter to more than 5 milligrams per
liter of H2 it typically produce issue
water a therapeutic concentrations more
consistently so let's look at how
electrolysis works with the hydrogen
water generator that uses a pen first
let's remember what our alkaline water
ionizer electrolysis looks like so we
can compare in a hydrogen water
generator we're going to swap out that
ionic membrane for our new pem membrane
and the cathode and anode are going to
be moved closer and sandwiched that
membrane so now the catholite is over
here and the analyte is over here
instead of in between this time let's
start with the anode just like in
conventional water electrolysis the no
starts with hydroxide hydroxide is
oxidized which remember means it loses
electrons this leaves us with oxygen
atoms and hydrogen cations the oxygen
atoms bond together to form oxygen gas
now this is where hydrogen infusion
machines or PM electrolysis differs from
conventional water electrolysis due to
the characteristics of pem membranes
they can store and transfer these
hydrogen cations across the membrane
towards the capital it is important to
know that the PN does not transfer for
every hydrogen cation across the
membrane the analyte still becomes
acidic and acts as a reservoir of
hydrogen cations that way the system can
continually produce hydrogen gas now
onto the cathode just like conventional
water electrolysis the cathode supplies
electrons however like we just explained
the anode supplies to hydrogen cations
or protons instead of the drinking water
the electrons from the cathode bind with
hydrogen cations from the pem and form
hydrogen atoms and then hydrogen atoms
bond together to form molecular hydrogen
or hydrogen gas depending on the type of
hydrogen water generator the hydrogen
gas is either transferred to a dissolver
chamber to be dissolved into the water
like some bigger hydrogen Fusion
machines or immediately dissolve into
the water like some hydrogen water
bottles or pitchers and with these
systems there will always be a port to
off gas or expel the oxygen gas now
let's get into the pros and cons for the
pros using hydrogen water generators
generally requires less water to ingest
a therapeutic level of H2 now I'm mainly
talking about bigger machines there are
many portable hydrogen water bottles or
pictures that use pen that still require
you to drink a lot of water these
systems do not rely on Source water
conductivity to produce H2 they will
typically use some type of dissolver
Technology this is a pro because
hydrogen gas is not very water soluble
this means the hydrogen gas does not
want to dissolve into the water and
using some method to encourage it to
dissolve into the water will achieve
higher dissolved hydrogen concentrations
in the water they provide more
consistent levels of dissolved H2 they
have the ability to produce higher
concentrations of dissolved H2 these
systems are generally easier and simpler
to use there is little to no influence
on the pH or the drinking water so they
are less likely to scale they eliminate
majority of the limitations of
and there's far less maintenance now the
cons are they generally have a lower
dispensing flow rate so it takes longer
to fill a glass of water and there are
usually limited applications for
cleaning and descaling these systems
however like I said there is less
maintenance so there are fewer reasons
for cleaning or descaling the system so
I hope now you have a greater
understanding of how these two systems
actually work pretty simple once you
break it down and not only does it help
to know what's happening during
electrolysis it also helps us to know
what is not happening during this
process which can help us discern what
is true or not and refute false claims
so that leads me to my question of the
day which type of water generator seems
to be better for drinking hydrogen water
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