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Summary
TLDR本视频探讨了3D打印自行车鞍座的热潮及其在骑行舒适度方面的潜在优势。市场上有多种品牌如Specialized、Physique等提供3D打印鞍座,价格相对较高。但也有价格更亲民的复制品或变体。视频中,作者通过个人经验分享了如何选择合适的鞍座,包括考虑鞍座的形状、宽度、填充物的软硬度、鼻部宽度和材质的灵活性等因素。作者特别推荐了一款来自AliExpress的Riot R品牌鞍座,因其轻巧、价格低廉且评价良好。视频还提供了如何正确安装和调整鞍座的实用建议,以及如何确保鞍座的舒适性和正确位置。最后,作者强调,昂贵的鞍座并不一定等同于更高的舒适度,选择合适的形状和正确的测量才是关键。
Takeaways
- 🛍️ 3D打印自行车座垫在市面上广泛可购,如AliExpress、亚马逊、eBay等平台均有销售。
- 💺 3D打印座垫的舒适度因人而异,需要个人实际试骑来确定是否合适。
- 🔍 知名品牌如Specialized、Physique、Sellia等投入大量研发,因此价格较高,但也有价格更亲民的非品牌选择。
- 💰 价格并非决定舒适度的唯一因素,高价品牌座垫也不一定适合所有人。
- 🔑 座垫的壳体(shell)是决定舒适度的关键,其形状必须适合个人身体结构。
- 🌬️ 3D打印座垫表面有孔洞设计,有利于空气流通,减少摩擦和潮湿。
- 🚴♂️ 座垫的宽度、形状(平坦或圆形)和中央的镂空设计都会影响骑行舒适度。
- 📏 测量座垫宽度和壳体的灵活性是选择合适座垫的重要步骤。
- 👖 座垫的鼻部宽度和是否适合大腿间隙也是需要考虑的因素。
- 👷♂️ 座垫的材质(如碳纤维、塑料或玻璃纤维)会影响其硬度和适用性。
- 🛠️ 座垫的导轨(rails)设计需与自行车座管夹相匹配,否则可能无法正确安装或使用。
Q & A
3D打印自行车座垫是否能够解决所有的骑行不适问题?
-3D打印自行车座垫可能提供更多的定制选项,但并不能保证解决所有人的骑行不适问题。每个人的身体结构和骑行习惯不同,因此需要通过实际试骑来确定是否适合自己。
在哪里可以购买到3D打印的自行车座垫?
-3D打印的自行车座垫可以在多个在线平台上购买,如AliExpress、亚马逊、eBay以及专门的自行车零件销售商。
3D打印座垫的价格是否普遍高于标准座垫?
-知名品牌的3D打印座垫由于研发投入较多,价格往往较高。然而市场上也有价格更便宜的非品牌3D打印座垫,这些座垫在价格和性能上提供了另一种选择。
如何判断一个自行车座垫是否适合自己?
-最好的方法是将新座垫安装在自行车上,保持与旧座垫相同的位置,然后进行长途骑行测试。如果在骑行过程中感觉舒适,那么这个座垫就适合你。
3D打印座垫的结构有哪些特点?
-3D打印座垫的特点是表面有孔洞,增加了空气流通,减少摩擦,但也可能在潮湿天气下容易积累污垢。座垫的底层是硬塑料或碳纤维制成的壳体,决定了座垫的形状和舒适度。
为什么即使使用品牌3D打印座垫也不一定适合每个人?
-因为3D打印的座垫只有顶层是3D打印的泡沫材料,而座垫的形状和舒适度主要由下面的硬壳体决定。如果壳体的形状不适合个人的身体结构,即使使用品牌座垫也可能不舒适。
座垫的宽度对骑行舒适度有何影响?
-座垫的宽度从最宽部分到最宽部分的直线距离,影响着骑行时的舒适度。选择正确的宽度可以避免大腿内侧与座垫边缘的摩擦,提高骑行体验。
座垫的形状(扁平或圆形)如何影响骑行体验?
-座垫的扁平或圆形形状决定了骑行时坐骨的支撑情况。扁平的座垫可能适合需要更多坐骨支撑的骑手,而圆形座垫可能适合需要较少支撑的骑手。
座垫中间的裆部凹槽设计对舒适度有何影响?
-裆部凹槽可以减轻坐骨和生殖器区域的压力,提供更舒适的骑行体验。不同的凹槽大小和形状可能适合不同的骑手,需要根据个人偏好选择。
座垫的鼻部宽度对骑行有何影响?
-座垫鼻部的宽度影响大腿内侧与座垫的接触。如果大腿较粗,可能需要一个更窄的鼻部以避免摩擦和不适。
座垫的壳体材质(塑料、玻璃纤维或碳纤维)对骑行有何影响?
-塑料或玻璃纤维座垫通常更柔软,能够吸收更多震动,适合粗糙路面。而碳纤维座垫较硬,适合平滑路面,但可能在颠簸路面上不够舒适。
座垫的导轨设计对安装和使用有何影响?
-导轨的设计影响座垫的安装和调整。例如,某些座垫导轨可能与标准座夹不兼容,需要特定尺寸的座夹或适配器。此外,导轨的长度和形状也会影响座垫的调整范围。
如何正确安装和调整新座垫以确保舒适骑行?
-在安装新座垫之前,应该记录并转移旧座垫的高度、长度和倾斜角度的测量数据。使用工具如坐骨模板可以帮助准确标记坐骨位置,确保座垫的正确安装。
视频中提到的Riot 3D打印座垫的实际表现如何?
-视频中的Riot 3D打印座垫在实际骑行中表现良好,即使在长途骑行后也没有不适感,证明了它是一个性价比高的选择。
为什么说更多的钱并不等同于更多的舒适度?
-舒适度是主观的,与个人的体型、骑行习惯和偏好有关。高价的座垫可能更轻,但并不一定适合每个人。视频中提到,即使是价格较低的座垫,只要形状和调整得当,也能提供很好的舒适度。
Outlines
🚴♂️ 3D打印自行车鞍座的热潮及其测试方法
本段落讨论了3D打印自行车鞍座的流行趋势,以及如何测试鞍座是否适合自己的方法。提到了可以从AliExpress、Amazon、eBay等平台购买到3D打印鞍座,并且有多种品牌如Specialized、Physique、Sellia等。强调了鞍座的舒适度取决于鞍座的壳体形状,而3D打印的垫层只是顶部一层。介绍了如何通过替换旧鞍座进行长距离骑行测试来确定新鞍座是否合适。还提到了市场上有品牌鞍座的仿制品,这些仿制品价格更便宜且质量不错。
🔍 3D打印鞍座的特点及选择指南
这一段落详细介绍了3D打印鞍座的特点,包括表面的穿孔设计可以增加空气流通,减少潮湿和摩擦。同时提到了鞍座的壳体是决定舒适度的关键部分,如果形状不适合,即使有3D打印垫层也不会舒适。还讨论了鞍座的宽度、扁平度、中央开孔设计、鞍座鼻部宽度以及材料的灵活性等因素,这些都是选择鞍座时需要考虑的。此外,还提到了鞍座导轨与自行车座管夹的兼容性问题,以及如何根据个人喜好选择合适的鞍座。
🛠️ 3D打印鞍座的安装和调整
本段内容讲述了如何将3D打印鞍座安装到自行车上,并进行了详细的调整过程。包括如何使用坐骨模板工具来确定坐骨的正确位置,以及如何测量和调整鞍座的高度、长度和倾斜度,以确保与之前自行车的设置一致。还提到了鞍座导轨的尺寸问题,以及如何确保鞍座不会因安装不当而损坏。
🚴♂️ 3D打印鞍座的实际骑行体验
此段落分享了作者实际使用3D打印鞍座的骑行体验。作者提到了在骑行50公里后鞍座仍然感觉良好,没有不适感。还提到了在骑行过程中可以自由移动,没有粘滞感。作者对新鞍座的舒适度和性能表示满意,并认为它已经成为了自己自行车上的永久配件。
💡 选择自行车鞍座的两个关键点
最后一段总结了选择自行车鞍座时应该考虑的两个主要因素。首先是鞍座的形状,建议选择与自己最喜欢的鞍座形状相似的款式。其次是保持鞍座的高度、长度和倾斜度与自己其他自行车上的设置完全一致。作者还强调了价格并不等同于舒适度,举例说明了即使价格低廉的鞍座也可以非常舒适,鼓励大家继续骑行并享受骑行的乐趣。
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Keywords
💡3D打印马鞍
💡透气性
💡马鞍形状
💡马鞍宽度
💡马鞍灵活性
💡碳纤维
💡导轨
💡坐骨
💡马鞍倾斜
💡马鞍高度
💡马鞍舒适度
Highlights
3D打印自行车座垫可能解决骑行不适问题,成为当前的热门话题。
3D打印座垫可从AliExpress、亚马逊、eBay等在线平台购买。
3D打印座垫的顶部有泡沫层,底部是硬塑料或碳纤维壳体。
市场上存在多个品牌的3D打印座垫,价格因研发投入而较高。
除了品牌产品外,市场上也有价格更便宜的仿制品和变体。
即使高价的3D打印座垫也不一定适合每个人。
座垫的舒适度取决于其形状,而非仅仅是3D打印的顶层。
座垫的宽度、平坦度和形状对舒适度有重要影响。
3D打印座垫的表面有孔洞,有助于空气流通,减少摩擦。
座垫的孔洞设计可能在潮湿天气下容易积累污垢。
座垫的壳体形状是决定舒适度的关键因素。
座垫的宽度测量是选择合适座垫的重要步骤。
座垫的中心凹槽设计对舒适度有显著影响。
座垫的鼻部宽度对大腿舒适度有直接影响。
座垫的壳体材质(塑料、玻璃纤维、碳纤维)影响其灵活性。
座垫的导轨设计需与自行车座管夹兼容。
3D打印座垫的制造工艺可能影响其外观和舒适度。
座垫的正确安装和调整对骑行体验至关重要。
即使价格不高的座垫也能提供出色的舒适度和性价比。
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get yourself a 3D printed saddle and all
your cycling discomfort problems will be
solved it seems to be the hype at the
moment doesn't at the 3D printed saddle
well at least the cycling industry would
like you to think that way you can buy
them from AliExpress fugo Amazon eBay
plus all your usual online bicycle parts
sellers so surely with such an abundance
there must be something in it they must
be able to solve your saddle problems
well we all know the best way to try out
a saddle for you to see if it's any good
is take off your old saddle from your
bike put on the new saddle in exactly
the same position and go for a long
ride if the Settles comfortable bang
you're on a winner you've got the right
saddle if not well you're going to have
to try another one try another one and
try another one and keep on trying and
so you're on a merry go round trying all
these different Saddles not only that
you're spending lots of money so what do
you do well hopefully in this video
we're going to narrow that field right
down for you before you even need to
commit to buy so let's get on with it
well there are quite a few brand named
settle manufacturers like specialize
physique sellia and a few others and
they put quite a bit of research and
development into the 3D printed saddle
and that's why their price tends to be
significantly higher than your standard
saddle but there are also copies out
there on the market copies of not only
those brand name ones but a lot of
variations thereof some of those
variations are very very good and the
best thing about it is those variations
are a lot cheaper than the brand name
ones well you might reason just buy a
brand name 3D printed saddle the price
might be higher but at least it's going
to fit you like a glove well that's also
not necessarily so and the reason is the
3D printed padded part is only like the
top layer this top layer with the foam
underneath the padding underneath but
that sits on the hard plastic or carbon
fiber bit the shell now if you like me
none of those brand names make any
models that fit me so I had to look
elsewhere anyhow and so I looked to the
other variations available on the market
and I found this so This saddle is from
AliExpress and the brand name is Riot R
ye T and it was extremely cheap so I
thought I'd have a look at the reviews
and all the reviews were glowing really
good so I took the
plunge the weight of this Riot seat is
150 g to give you an idea how light that
is the cardboard box and the minimal
amount of packaging that this seat came
in weighs 126
G now the first thing you might notice
about 3D settle compared to your
standard settle is it's got holes in it
the surface is perforated so that can
mean two things first of all there's
more air flow underneath because you got
holes there so more air means a drier
shammy means less chafing so that's one
big plus however having holes can also
mean in wet weather when there water and
of course in the water is dirt flicking
up and getting onto the seat it can mean
that dirt can build up inside those
holes now over time it may do so you can
tip your bike on the side or upside down
and give it a squirt with water and let
the dirt run out it won't hurt the 3D
settle padding and and it will dry out
and then you'll be right the most
important part of the seat which you're
going to be looking for is the shell the
underneath it not only provides the
foundation for the material to glue onto
and for your rails to connect but it is
the shape of your seat the shell gives
it its shape and it's the shape that
dictates the Comfort if the shape of the
shell is not right for you then no
matter what else you do it's still not
going to be comfortable so here's three
Saddles I know I cannot ride the
physique one here it's like whether it's
diamond or triangular sort of shape that
is definitely uncomfortable for me the
cellia with its long nose and then all
of a sudden it comes out right here and
then goes back very quickly and whatever
else it's it's a bit better but it's
still I can't ride with it more than 60
km
and then this is specialized same sort
of thing it might be wide enough but
it's got a its shape is not right it's
too wide before it slopes off anyway
we'll talk about that a minute so either
of these Saddles all three of them
definitely not comfortable for me
whereas the 3D printed saddle that I got
is nothing like those three Saddles but
it is like the other seats that I ride
on my bikes second most important aspect
of your shell is the width of the seat
goes from the widest part of the seat to
the widest part so just get a measure
and go straight across there the most
common size is 143 however there are
wider ones and there are narrower as
well so get your width correct if you're
not sure what width of seat you should
take then watch this video here I'll put
the link in the description and that'll
help you determine what width seat is
best for
you next is how flat or round your seat
is all it means if you put a straight
rule across your seat across there like
that
what is the curve like here with this
seat you can see the curve goes off
really quickly it's curving all the way
almost from the center just out from the
center it starts curving off really
quickly this one here however you can
see it stays flat for a long time before
it starts to gradually curve off it's
not till it's way out here before it
starts to drop off quite significantly
so this one what is what I'd call a flat
saddle and this one is what I would call
A round saddle so you might find the
rounder shape more comfortable or a
flatter shape more comfortable or
somewhere in between and here's my 3D
printed sadle it's sort of somewhere in
between next is the perenium or
perennial cutout that's the hole in the
middle if it's not a hole then it might
be just a channel like this
one either way the seat has usually got
them today now this one is a large one
it's quite large at the back and it's
quite long overall it's a big large
cutout in the middle so it doesn't leave
much surface seat to actually sit on for
the rest of your body it's a big cutout
whereas this one is a small cutout you
can see the surface area on the seat
it's a lot more for you to sit on than
there is with this one so you might find
the seat with the large cutouts more
comfortable than the smaller cutouts or
vice
versa there's a few other things you
could consider about the perenium cutout
like how the rollof is on the side sides
if it's sharp or is it soft or is it
firm but we won't go into detail about
that if you get it close enough to the
seat that you already have then you
should be pretty much right personally
with the 3D SLE I've got I've gone for
not too long and not too wide sort of in
between if you're not sure about
perenium relief Channel what fits you
then just go for something like this in
between next is the width of the nose
here's a wide nose and here's a narrower
nose now if you do have trouble with
your thighs catching on the side and you
need a narrower nose you'll already know
about that from previously writing so
having wider thighs then you'll need a
narrower nose seat if it doesn't worry
you then you could probably get away
with either the narrow or a wider nose
for me I've never had a problem with
narrow or wide nose Saddles so I've just
gone for that one it's fairly wide but
not overly if you find a wide nose sadle
doesn't worry you check inside the
inside leg of your Nicks it might be
worn away or on the inside of the seat
here you might have wear marks you don't
know but it's actually wearing on The
Wider nose so you might be better off
with a slightly narrower nose seat even
if you don't feel the discomfort it
could be wearing away your Nicks or the
side of your seat and then there's the
Shell's flexibility plastic seats or
glass fiber seats tend to be more
flexible like this one you can see it
flexes quite well whereas a carbon fiber
shell like this one doesn't matter how
hard you press you can hardly move it so
they tend to be a lot harder now this
this one that I've got the 3D printed
saddle is carbon fiber underneath that's
why it's so light but it does have some
flexibility now it may not have it in
the description when you buy the seat
because flexibility is something that
quite often is not advertised so
sometimes it might be a bit of a gamble
however generally carbon fiber is a
stiffer shell than a plastic or a glass
fiber shell so why consider flexibility
because if you ride mostly on rough
terrain then you'd be better off with a
softer sh
that way it acts like suspension it'll
absorb more vibration and you won't find
it so harsh and fatiguing on your
backside whereas if you ride on normal
smooth rows or on the vrone then it
won't matter you can go for a hard
carbon fiber saddle this one that we got
the 3D printed saddle that's sort of
halfway in between it's carbon fiber but
it does have some
flexibility now with the rails
underneath your seat there is one
important thing you need to consider and
it's to do with your seat clamp not all
seat clamps take carbon fiber rails for
instance this is a steel or actually
it's Chromo Rail and if you to measure
the diameter all the way around it's 7
mm and that's the standard size so
that'll fit any seat clamp however with
carbon fiber you measure this way and
it's seven but you measure it this way
or this way however way you want to do
it and it's 9 mm so it's oval shaped and
that won't fit the 9 mm is too big for
most of the standard clamps 7x7 so
you'll need to either purchase another
seat post with the correct clamp or the
clamp fitting so that fits the 7x9
carbon fiber rails so if you go for a
carbon fiber railed seat because it's
light and it looks cool and you go and
put it on your normal seat clamp and you
put too much pressure on or it's the
wrong size it only takes a 7x7 you don't
want to crack those carbon fiber
rails having a look at the rails on this
right seat it has a numbered scale on
the right hand rail very handy when
needing to move the seat forward or back
by small increments and has plenty of
rail to move back and forth is about the
same or more than a cotell SLR and a PR
logo the distance between the rail and
the top of the seat is noteworthy too
the riot is 35 mm tall this specialized
is 45 mm tall this means that the seat
poost will need to go up 10 mm if you're
going from the specialized seat to the
riot the carbon fiber workmanship on
this RI seat is really really nice the
two rear interfaces for the rail to the
shell look very solid and the front
looks very sleek and well made now
because this Riot seat is about a
quarter of the price of a name brand
seat there's bound to be some
imperfections I spotted a very small pin
hole on the left side of the shell and
another very small dent on the right
hand side and a very small spillage of
glue on the right hand skirting I'm sure
these are nothing to worry about but if
you were paying $400 Plus for a seat you
would expect
Perfection having a closer look at the
3D printed layer on top of the shell it
looks the same all the way along and it
feels fairly consistent on light touch
however if you have a very close look at
the pattern on the squares or the holes
or circles whatever you want to call the
pattern from the back to the front it
does vary as you go past your SE bones
along the perenium relief and into the
nose it is different all the way along
and you can feel the difference too if
you start pressing your finger in on the
back of the seat from here it's very
soft and you go forward especially
around the sit bone area it becomes
fairly
firm and as you go along the nose area
it's still fairly firm until you get
close up to round about the end of that
relief Channel and it starts to go soft
to very soft at the end so there is a
difference in the firmness of the
padding from side to side starts off
fairly firm firm and it goes a little
bit sof around where the sit bones
are and then that's about it and it goes
back to firm again toward the end now
every settle's a little bit different
where the exact pressure areas are firm
and soft areas are where you could
probably feel it and draw a little map
if you really so inclined
but we have fa that these people who
make these Saddles know what the fir
where the firm and the soft areas should
be and you'll soon know when you ride it
as well one thing to look for and you
can usually only tell from pictures on
the sites is if your shell is sticking
out further than the cushioning on the
sides if it sticks out too much then
your necks or your legs are going to rub
on the harder plastic or carbon fiber
rather than on the cushioning so make
sure that the edge of the shell doesn't
stick out further than the cushioning so
that'll apply of course where your legs
go past the seat you don't want chafing
or your necks being shredded a Pieces
Just because there's a little bit of
plastic sticking
out and my seat post has the typical 7
mm clamp for the rails and so the hole
for the rails is round the seat post
also came with the 9 mm clamp there it
is 7x9 and so it makes the hole oval
shaped just perfect for the carbon rail
seat seat on do up the seat clamp bolt
so that the seat can tilt but it stays
where I put it so the bolts not too firm
and not too loose using my sit bone
template it's a very handy tool because
on any seat you can pretty much
instantly Mark exactly where your sit
bones are going to be if you'd like to
check it out for yourself make one for
yourself check out diy9 video bike fit
tool make it yourself so now I know
exactly where the center of my sit bone
is going to be on the
seat before removing your old seat and
putting on the new seat measure the
height length and tilt from your sit
bone point or maybe you already have
these measurements written down here I'm
transferring the measurements from my
YOLO R12 to the R11 because the R11 is
going to have the new seat on it from
that sit bone Point measuring the height
and the length you can use a tape
measure or a dedicated sizing transfer
tool like this
chances are you won't have one of those
tools so to measure the Tilt you can
just use a straight piece of metal and
measure from The Handlebar to the bottom
of that piece of
metal for a very accurate measurement of
tilt you can use this tilt tool and you
can make it yourself that same video
will show you how and if you haven't
already don't forget to record your
vital measurements height length and the
tilt
so transferring those measurements over
to the YOLO R11 which has the new Riot
3D seat the tool is showing the seat is
too low by about a CM which is because
the rot seat is about 10 mm lower in
profile than the previous seat so
lifting the seat post by about 10
mil and now the tool says everything's
pretty much spot
on finally getting the tilt of the new
seat the same as the tilt on the other
bike
too high knock the seat down a
bit measure again getting closer but
still a bit too high on the
nose another measure and the nose is
still a fraction too high so we'll knock
it very
gently and I've gone too far so have to
go a little bit
back I'm letting this carry on a bit
because it's very important to have your
tilt exactly right
finally got it
right so tighten those bolts up make
sure they're the right torque and we're
done and ready to
ride so here we go first ride with the
3D settle and I put the camera on the
back as
well lost the Sprint
not very often that
happens young
lad how old are you 23 23 against 59
years
l oh got to give away sometime anyway I
what have we done about 50k and seat
still fine
excellent beautiful haven't even thought
about it
yet these people that say that you can't
move on your seat cuz it's sticky no
problems moving so I don't know what
they're on about maybe their necks are
sticky here's the motor bike here's our
Pacer by the time we get home the well
at the moment it's
72k no problems
whatsoever else is
here cup coffee and then there'll be
another 11k to get home so no it's
fine yeah so
84k today Sunday ride
not bad and no problem whatsoever
lovely more than happy with it actually
I was expecting some something or at
least would I'd need to adjust something
at very first I thought oh I'm going
have to put the nose down I could feel
the nose a little bit at the very
beginning of the ride but during the
ride not so uh and the whole ride
beautiful really really nice so very
happy we are second ride on the 3D seat
new so we do 103k today no climbing much
about 200 M that's about it this will be
the true test that's the halfway stop
now
53k there we go 102 k and just over 300
M climbing very flat course today so
that's the way you test a seat very flat
course when you don't get off your seat
much anyway way oh it's in the shadow
there you go everything's fine no
problems even more a different pair of
necks just in case it's good to wear a
different pair of Nicks cuz some Nicks
feel different than others so John
Holland and they sell tractors or
something the
seat here we go there you go it's
staying on this bike now so it's
replacing the other SE I like it so much
that it's got a permanent home
this is about I don't know I've lost
counting now seven or E ride now with
the
seat here they
come
up so in conclusion if you just remember
two main things first of all get a seat
that is close enough in shape to your
favorite seats I've got a few favorite
ones they're not all the same band or
the same model they're different but
nevertheless they're shaped is very very
similar and I know they're comfortable
for me and that's why they're on my
bikes so the 3D suit I bought as close
as I could to the shapes on my other
ones so get a shape that's close as you
can to your favorite seat secondly is
always have the measurement exactly the
same so if you're riding a road bike
then measure your road bike your tilt
your length and your height exactly the
same as your other road bike and your
other one and your other one and your
other one actually I tell a lie the
gravel bike is slightly smaller than the
road bike I ride a seat slightly lower
and a head stem slightly shorter as well
but that's the gravel bike but all my
road bikes all the measurements are
identical and remember more money does
not equal more Comfort it may buy you a
lighter seat but money has nothing to do
with comfort in fact I've got a $12 seat
over here this one here it's a Vader
from AliExpress $12 I got that about 2
years ago I've been riding it for so
long and I love it it's a really
comfortable seat best value for money
seat that's it keep riding and we'll see
you soon
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