Gov Hope Uzodimma Speaks On S/East Security, Relocation Of CBN, FAAN + More | Sunday Politics

Politics Today
28 Jan 202452:03

Summary

TLDRThe transcript covers a Sunday politics program discussing escalating security issues in Nigeria. Topics include the army chief visiting Plateau State to address terrorist violence, government reassurances about handling security threats, the impact of subsidy removal on citizens, perspectives from the APC party and governors on the economy and insecurity, accusations of political sabotage against reform efforts, arguments over relocating some government agencies, the need for decisive action from President Buhari, and an appeal to the president to address urgent challenges like kidnappings, economic hardships, fleeing investors, and loss of confidence in the government.

Takeaways

  • 📺 The program discusses the escalating security situation in Nigeria, particularly in Plateau State, and the government's response.
  • 🔴 Lieutenant General T.L. visited Plateau State, ordering troops to adopt a more aggressive posture against terrorism.
  • 🌍 The Minister of Information, Muhammad Idris, addresses concerns about government actions, emphasizing efforts to confront security threats and stabilize the economy.
  • 💰 Claims about the relocation of government departments being politically motivated to marginalize certain regions are dismissed by the Minister.
  • 📊 The discussion highlights the economic impact of subsidy removal and government measures to alleviate hardship.
  • 🛡️ The interview with Governor Hope of Imo State explores the APC's promises and the federal government's policies to address national challenges.
  • 📝 Governor Hope defends the subsidy removal as necessary despite the hardships, suggesting it targets corruption and benefits the economy in the long run.
  • 👮 The program addresses the complex issues of insecurity across the country, with calls for a more effective strategy and state policing.
  • 🖥 The relocation of certain government departments to Lagos is debated, with opinions divided on its implications for national unity and efficiency.
  • 👍 Governor Hope outlines his achievements and plans for Imo State, emphasizing digital economy initiatives and infrastructure development.
  • 📚 The final word calls on President to act decisively on security, economic challenges, and to uphold his campaign promises for the betterment of Nigeria.

Q & A

  • What was the primary focus of the 'Sunday Politics Live' episode on Channels Television?

    -The episode focused on the escalating security situation in Nigeria, especially in Plateau State, and discussed the government's reaction to various national concerns, including security threats, economic challenges, and political moves.

  • What specific instruction did Lieutenant General T.O give during his visit to Plateau State?

    -Lieutenant General T.O ordered troops to adopt a more aggressive posture and stamp out terrorists wreaking havoc in Plateau State and other states.

  • What were the key points made by the Minister of Information and National Orientation, Muhammad Idris, regarding the state of the nation?

    -Muhammad Idris dismissed claims that relocating some departments of government agencies was a political move to marginalize a section of the country. He assured that the government was confronting all security threats boldly, taking steps to stabilize the economy, and that the relocation of certain departments was an administrative step for operational efficiency and cost reduction.

  • What concerns did the host of the show express about the current government's performance compared to its campaign promises?

    -The host expressed concerns about whether the current government is aware of the citizens' plights and if it has lived up to the expectations and promises made during the campaign, particularly regarding the country's economic and security challenges.

  • What perspective did Senator Hope Uzodinma, the Governor of Imo State and Chair of the Progressive Governors Forum, offer about President Buhari's policies?

    -Senator Hope Uzodinma defended President Buhari's policies, stating they are necessary for long-term benefits despite short-term hardships. He highlighted the removal of fuel subsidies and the unification of exchange rates as bold steps towards rectifying fundamental issues in the Nigerian economy.

  • What did Senator Hope Uzodinma say about the cabals allegedly influencing the Nigerian economy and security?

    -Senator Hope Uzodinma described cabals as groups that have previously benefited from systems like fuel subsidies and foreign exchange disparities. He claimed that these cabals are fighting against the current government's reforms but expressed confidence that the president's policies will eventually outmaneuver these groups.

  • How did Senator Hope Uzodinma address concerns about increasing prices and economic hardships faced by Nigerians?

    -Senator Hope Uzodinma acknowledged the economic hardships but argued that the removal of fuel subsidies and other tough measures were necessary to treat chronic economic issues. He emphasized that these measures, though initially painful, are meant to stabilize the economy and yield long-term benefits.

  • What stance did Senator Hope Uzodinma take on the relocation of certain departments of federal Ministries?

    -Senator Hope Uzodinma supported the relocation, rationalizing it as a practical step to enhance operational efficiency and effectiveness. He argued that placing regulatory bodies closer to the operational hubs, like moving the operations department of the Federal Airport Authority of Nigeria to Lagos, makes both economic and political sense.

  • How did Senator Hope Uzodinma describe the state of security in Nigeria and the role of state governors in addressing it?

    -Senator Hope Uzodinma acknowledged the critical security situation in Nigeria. He outlined the role of state governors as partners with the federal government in addressing security issues, emphasizing the need for collaboration due to the expensive nature of security and the constitutional allocation of security responsibilities to the federal level.

  • What message did the host of the show convey to President Buhari in the final word segment?

    -The host appealed to President Buhari to take immediate, decisive actions to address the nation's pressing challenges, including rampant kidnappings, economic hardships, and loss of confidence in the government. The host urged the President to remember his responsibilities and act with urgency to restore stability and confidence in the nation.

Outlines

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😊 Introducing the Sunday Politics Live show and previewing security discussions

The host Shanimal introduces the Sunday Politics Live show broadcasting from Abuja, Nigeria. He previews upcoming discussions about the security situation in Plateau State and the visit by the Chief of Army Staff Lt. Gen. Tukur Buratai, who ordered troops to take more aggressive action against terrorists.

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😮‍💨 Government defends security approach and relocation of agencies

The Minister of Information and Culture Lai Mohammed defends the government's security strategy, saying threats are being confronted. He also dismisses claims that relocating aviation and CBN departments to Lagos aims to marginalize certain regions, calling the allegations unfounded and pragmatic for efficiency.

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😠 Citizens bearing the burden of government policies

The host argues that despite government assurances, citizens are directly bearing the burden of difficult economic conditions and unfulfilled campaign promises. He questions if the government understands citizens' plight as prices rise and economic hardship grows.

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😌 APC governors concerned but defend government's agenda

Senator Hope Uzodinma, Governor of Imo State and Chair of the APC Governors Forum, acknowledges concerns but defends the president's agenda. He argues solutions take time and the president aims to permanently address issues like subsidy removal despite initial pains.

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⚖️ Addressing calls for restructuring and autonomy

The host and Uzodinma discuss governors' roles as chief security officers given constitutional limits. Uzodinma argues states currently lack funding for full autonomy. He addresses calls for restructuring and state policing, arguing fiscal federalism must precede decentralization.

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💪🏾 Commitment to campaign promises in Imo State

Uzodinma highlights his achievements in Imo State, including digital skills programs, infrastructure rehabilitation and job creation. He rejects complacency arguments, claiming he has delivered 75% of his first term manifesto and will do even more in his second term.

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😤 Confronting political opposition and critics

Uzodinma dismisses critics of the president's policies like agency relocation as political opponents seeking to sabotage the government's agenda. He argues merit should drive decisions and the president aims to rescue the economy, not pursue a hidden sectional agenda.

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🤝 Call for unity and focus on development in Imo State

Despite emerging competition over his successor, Uzodinma calls for unity and development in Imo State. He says only God knows who will succeed him and encourages working with the current president to improve Nigeria.

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🏭 Vision for an industrialized Imo State

Uzodinma shares his vision to industrialize Imo State by leveraging its gas reserves, building infrastructure like a seaport, and supplying power to create jobs. He aims to shift Imo from poverty to prosperity through rehabilitation, reconstruction and recovery.

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😤 Final plea for urgent action to rescue Nigeria

In a final address, the host makes an impassioned plea for President Buhari to take decisive action on insecurity and the economy. He argues swift measures are needed to restore confidence, stem exit of investors, realize Nigeria's potential and preserve its regional leadership.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡security

The issue of security is a major theme in the video. There are discussions about the escalating security situation in Nigeria, with increasing kidnappings, violence and criminal activities across the country. This insecurity is causing fear amongst citizens. The government is trying to address security concerns but more urgent action is needed. Examples of security issues mentioned include kidnappings in Lagos, Kaduna, Taraba and the Federal Capital Territory.

💡economy

The poor state of Nigeria's economy is another key topic. The removal of fuel subsidies has led to economic downturn and rising prices. This is causing hardship for families struggling to afford basic commodities. There are calls for the president to take decisive action to fix the ailing economy, attract investment, and restore confidence.

💡leadership

The video highlights the need for strong, urgent leadership from President Buhari to address Nigeria's challenges. There are appeals for him to show bold leadership, live up to expectations, fulfill campaign promises and act with integrity. His leadership is seen as vital to tackling problems.

💡restructuring

Some voices in the video call for restructuring Nigeria's governance system to make it work better. They believe initiatives like state police are needed. Restructuring relates to reforming Nigeria's federal structure to empower states/regions.

💡confidence

The loss of public confidence in the Buhari government due to unfulfilled promises and worsening conditions is a concern raised in the video. Restoring people's confidence through strong leadership and results is seen as crucial.

💡subsidy removal

The government's removal of fuel subsidies is mentioned as a major economic policy that has backfired, causing hardship. Its poor implementation has hurt citizens.

💡protests

There are hints of growing protests and instability, like the 'sit-at-home' day that the Imo State governor defiantly scheduled his inauguration on.

💡cabal

The video references allegations about some cabal controlling the economy/oil wealth and resisting reforms that threaten their interests.

💡foreign investment

The loss of foreign investment and investors fleeing Nigeria is cited as a consequence of the unstable economy and unfavorable business environment.

💡regional influence

Concerns are raised about Nigeria's waning regional leadership and diplomatic influence under Buhari's presidency.

Highlights

The escalating security situation in parts of the country

The impact of the removal of fuel subsidies on citizens

The government's response to concerns over the economy

Claims of cabals sabotaging economic reforms

The debate over relocating some government agencies

Accusations of political motives behind relocations

The role of state governments in tackling insecurity

Calls for restructuring and state policing

Promises to create jobs and develop Imo state

Efforts to increase Nigeria's foreign exchange earnings

Appeals for national unity after contested elections

Emphasis on merit-based policies over ethnicity

Reassurance of commitment to deliver prosperity

Acknowledgement of citizens' hardship and suffering

Calls for urgent action to restore security and economy

Transcripts

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hello everyone and welcome this is f

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Sunday politics live on China's

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television I'm shanimal in Abuja it's

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been some weeks of worries over the

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state of security in the country

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escalating situation in planto state and

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yesterday the chief of Army St liutenant

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General to L visited the state where he

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ordered troops to adopt a more

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aggressive posture and Stamp Out

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terrorist ricking avoc and PLU State and

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all state take a listen to the chief of

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Army

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staff I've a chat with your commander

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and his plan his staff on the security

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situation on the plateau especially

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mango I

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know

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that the situation here is

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complex course lot of people have

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imputed religion they have imputed

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ethnicity and what have you to what

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experiencing

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here but as

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soldiers your focus is on one

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thing every law breaker must be

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apprehended and anyone that found in

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possession of arms must be brought down

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is that

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clear instructions are very strong but

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then the federal government has also

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been reacting to some of these concerns

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on the state of the nation and today the

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minister of information and National

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orientation Muhammad Idris has strongly

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dismissed some claims while trying to

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get some commitment from Nigerians by

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assuring that the government is doing

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its best part of and part of what he

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says is to dis dismiss claims at the

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relocation of some departments in the

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two agencies of government are political

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moves to marginalize a section of the

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country in the area of security this is

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what the minister says um the minister

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says that quote in the area of security

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all threats are being boldly confronted

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we are taking the fight to the criminal

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accident with promising result within

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the last week several Bandits kidnappers

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and militants have been neutralized or

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arrested on the economy he says quote

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regarding the economy all relevant

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Ministries and agencies of the federal

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government are working in coordinated

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fashion to bring down inflation

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stabilize foreign exchange rates and

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create a truly enabling environment for

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business and investment in Nigeria that

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President ubu seeks to build is one

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where no one is Left Behind and on the

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relocation of Departments of some

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federal Ministries he says quote it is

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not true that the relocation to Lagos of

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the headquarters of the federal Airport

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Authority of Nigeria fan and of certain

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Departments of the Central Bank of

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Nigeria are political moves aimed at

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marginalizing a section of the country

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these allegations are unfounded instead

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these are pragmatic administrative steps

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to improve operational efficiency and

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reduce operating cost end of

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quote that is the Minister of

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information there but so much to take in

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if you look at the condition and the

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state of things in the country you as a

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citizen you perhaps

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are bearing the bronze directly and you

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feeling the heat directly because when

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you go to the marketplace you are the

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one spending your money to buy does the

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government of the day know what you feel

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your plight have they been able to move

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up to the expectations and the promises

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they made during the campaign when those

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of you who voted for this government and

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those who did not when they were

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campaigning at this promises being

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kept look a lot is going on in the

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country the all progress is Congress APC

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must be thinking deeply now about the

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promises they made to the Nigerian

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people during campaign and the burden of

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delivering those in the midst of

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negative indices that we now see and the

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plight of citizens one of the major

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blocks in the ruling APC is a group of

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Governors the APC Governors the

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progressive Governors Forum they are

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very influential block who you can say

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produce the candidate bolu in the prise

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of the APC and tonight they say they are

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equally concerned the chair of the

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progressive Governors forum and governor

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of IMO state is my guest tonight on the

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program Senator hope he joins us live in

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our buja studio thank you so much your

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Excellency for joining us tonight thank

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you

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sh a lot of things are happening in the

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country and one we wonder especially

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coming from the governors of the APC

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your party made bold promises you said

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it was a renewed hope agenda but on the

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lips of many Nigerians tonight they will

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be asking where where is the promise

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where are those promises made to

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them thank you

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chair

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um we had a Manifesto as a political

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party or Progressive

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Congress and before we

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supported the

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emergence of President b m as our

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candidate for the

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election we sampled the opin milions of

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Nigerians we evaluated the situation on

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ground and it was very clear to us that

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a president that will be needed at that

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point in

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time has to be a pan

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Nigerian has to be a man that is

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versatile with

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experience to manage

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economy manage polities

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and also manage social

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existence and in president a

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bolo we saw it

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credentials and as a matter of

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fact in our

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party president a bimu was a

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candidate that was

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sponsored by

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consensus by the progressive governance

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forum

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and I can tell

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you that he's a pan

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Nigerian he understands very

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clearly the challenges facing the

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country and relatively very

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versatile confident that he will

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address and the correct the

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ills of the society but the versatility

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Governor some Nigerians will be asking

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where is that versatility no let me tell

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you

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something if you there is a difference

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between a patient and their

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doctor the process of

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identifying the hills of the

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society and the process of propounding a

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solution and applying that solution

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there are two different

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things is the president of Nigeria just

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how many months

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ago I forget from 1999 today how many

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years and here is a President Who

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Came despite the inability of previous

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governments to remove the cancer in our

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system as a society which is which is

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subsidy how much of a cancer is quot

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quote and quote the provision of subsidy

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for petroleum products for 4

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years Government after government we are

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not

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able to remove this anomally in the

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society and normally in our economy and

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normally in our

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existence came under 7 months in fact

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the day he was warning he made the

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proclamation that he will remove the

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subsidy and you know and I know this

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particular measure that you you me

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is what a lot of Nigerians would say it

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was a knej approach perhaps one policy a

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lot of people say good policy but not

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well thought out it's it's biting hard

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on the average Nigerian the Cushing

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effect is not properly laid on the

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ground understand understand that the

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problem can be likened to malaria

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somebody suffering from

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malaria and every time he has fever and

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he's drinking pan at all and every day

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you take pad and the malaria still exist

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you are sick until you are properly

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treated him is the

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bble is not unaware that what is

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happening now will happen but yet it

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took courage and boldness to manage this

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matter if you must be treated of a

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sickness that requires a bitter

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pill when you swallow the

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pill initially it will be very bitter

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you may be

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angry but when he gets down to the

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system and cures the sickness you will

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begin to appreciate the real Essence why

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that P was applied to you there are

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those who will say now yeah you're

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applying the medication but things are

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not working people are D things are

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getting worse don't feel like things are

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because those who say look why shouldn't

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the government and I'm looking at those

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who do not understand the English

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language we are speaking right now on

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television their major concern is that

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they are not able to meet the needs of

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their of their children of their wife of

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their Community because of the biting

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state of the economy can I tell you the

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truth if you must want to know

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now the truth is

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that the subsidy that has just been

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removed was benefiting a group of

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cabal who became billionaires overnight

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who became very rich overnight

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to the detriment of Nigerians uninformed

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and ignorant people in the remote

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areas

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pres interest is the interest of those

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people at the remote

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areas you have billionaires who bought

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private jets who built cast all over the

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world very few of them in the name of

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subsidy but what do we are saying how do

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we consolidate our

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economy so the NAA that used to be

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stronger than the US dollar will come

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back but the the the nir to Dollar

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parity I mean the the rate now is

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alltime high it's never been this High

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almost, 1,400 at the at the par at the

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par Market in the program of economic

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recovery there is what we call infancy

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stage he has just drafted a policy that

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will make naira very strong again and

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there will be initial challenges the

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cabal will want to frustrate it the

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cabal will want to sabotage it those who

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are fighting against the common economy

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of our country to benefit themselves we

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want to sabotage it is that what is

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going on but we need time and how much

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time and time shall tell govern do you

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know how much percentage that Governor I

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mean president tunu has spent in office

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in his first in his four years he spent

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a considerable amount of time almost 7

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months from 19 almost a year okay I ask

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you one question from 1999 today how

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many

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years answer Governor answer first how

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many years I'm the one asking the

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question no from 1999 to today how many

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years the question is Nigeria voted for

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boltin Noble for 4 years hoping that he

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promis he's going to fix the problem of

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Niger you vote you voted not to a

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magician you voted to a Visionary leader

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but what your party preached almost a a

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magic to Nigerian no but the party

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preached that they have a solution ution

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to the problems of the country Vis the

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economy the politics the security and I

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can tell you without any fear of any

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contradiction that the current policies

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of B Tino as a

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president is the password to the Sol to

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enter the system I can tell you that

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what he has done by unifying the

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exchange rates program what he has done

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by removing petroleum uh products sub

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sub what he has done by deploying and

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strengthening the security architecture

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to address the three principal problems

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of the country Vis this economy security

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and then foreign exchange disparity

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which will make NA very strong the cabal

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who are currently holding the dollars

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who are currently sabotaging the system

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who are currently angry because they are

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out of business as a result of this B

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policy they are still fighting but time

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I tell and in the next couple of months

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when we begin to see the result of the

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current policies of the current

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Administration I will tell you that

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Nigerians will right rise in unism to

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commend the president are these the same

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are these the same Caba who are um

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responsible for the state of insecurity

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in the country right now because things

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are very difficult a lot of people are

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living in fear from Legos the kidnapp I

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mean the chairman of a political party

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in Lagos on his way to Lagos kidnapp the

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kidnapping from kaduna to taraba even

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the fct things are really in a critical

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stage you have forgotten sh that the

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security insecurity in the country did

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not start with

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President recall that even under

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President

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y that insecurity really is ugly head

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coming up to president good l b Jonathan

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up to president Mohamed bhari insecurity

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was very here in the

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country and what has

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happened check the constitution of the

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current security architecture in the

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country we talked of

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inclusiveness we a situation that the

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for the first time in this country I can

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tell you I come from the Southeastern

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part of the country and I can tell you

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that this is for the last 10 years we

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are having one of the service Chiefs

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come from Southeast the chief of NAA

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staff that has given sense of belonging

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to the people of

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Southeast the wisdom well

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appreciated so this thing that has

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cumulatively been here over time is

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being addressed but I don't see the

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reason for this

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hurry the

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anxiety of making sure as if it is going

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to be a magic that the ease of 20 years

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must be solved in 7 months to say the

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least is unreasonable those who are in

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pains and who are in object poverty may

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not agree with you when you asking them

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that they are they should not they

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should be patient and they keep

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suffering they keep feeling the hardship

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it might be unfair to them Poverty of

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how many years and government of how

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many months

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let us comparatively discuss this issue

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that we have been in poverty from 1999

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to 2023 let's talk about what has

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happened in the last one year in the

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last seven month of President tunu the

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price of Gary my viewers can tell us the

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price of rice that my viewers can tell

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us the price of yam in the market prices

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have skyro rocketed in the last

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December celebration they can tell you

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those who feed the manner in which they

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fed a year and two years ago it's now

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very different and if you are telling

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them tonight that they should be patient

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and you're telling them tonight that

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this a is unreasonable do you know what

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their response will be to you no no let

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me tell you it's not telling them

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because you are speaking from one side

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of the society let me tell you something

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if the policies the situation as it is

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now today and the consequences of the

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various policies of government is not

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unexpected

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there is no how you it can cure the

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negative impact of a subsidy

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removal you can cure the negative impact

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of removing a Caba that have managed our

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exchange rate programs over the years to

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their

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interest without some pens this initial

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pens is why federal government has

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introduced some measures what we call

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pallative measures but they will ask you

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they've not seen can how many how many

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people enough because he cannot only

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Dash fish to human beings you must teach

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a human being how to fish The Dashing of

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giving of palliatives by forms of food

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stuffs pallative envelopes can never be

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enough we are trying the president as I

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understand is trying to bring a

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permanent

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solution to the problems of poverty

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hunger and then bad economy

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so I think that speaking with the

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president I'm the chairman of

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progressive Governor Forum I pride over

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the meetings of 20 governors in Nigeria

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out of

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36 I have interacted with the

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president sh you don't know me to be a a

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psychopat if the president has no clear

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direction of what will lead Nigeria to

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Prosperity I will be one of those that

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will first begin to

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protest but he has a solution I've

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considered a permanent

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solution how long more can should

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Nigerians wait how long more should they

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endure this pain and this suffering I

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don't believe in

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hypothesis I don't come here and sit and

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become a prophet but I tell you in my

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findings and understanding of the

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country that they exist cabals and

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deities

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who before Dollar business can be

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conducted must be

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woried who before political decisions

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must be taking must be consulted and

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this has become a retardation to the

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progress of Nigeria why can't we take

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out this cabal are they bigger than this

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is they are the people sponsoring both

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artificial media they are the people

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sponsoring

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opposition to come with a blackmail and

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the negative propaganda against a

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President Who is very F who is from the

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private sector who meant to well who

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wants to correct the ears of the past

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are they the same people who are

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sponsoring foreign investors who are

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leing the country in droves no the those

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living are not investors they are those

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who were benefiting from the Caba system

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when they tell you they're living

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they're living because they can no

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longer benefit from foreign exchange

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disparity they can no longer benefit

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from crude oil theft they can no longer

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benefit

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from the cases of petroleum

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subsidy pretending to be importing F

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when they were not importing anyone

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forging documents to asset of government

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money those are the people living and

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again it is a blessing in this guys

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because the more they live the more

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opportunity the indigenous companies

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will have to participate there is no

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rocket science there is no foreign

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investor who is comfortable in his

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country that will want to live his

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country and come here and at the same

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time there is the people of the good

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investors and genuine investors who are

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Nigerians who have been denied

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opportunity to practice and invest they

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now have opportunity to do so so I think

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the earlier the artificial and fake

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investors lives the better for Nigeria

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when you call some of these blue chip in

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companies this private sector that

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they're operating in other climes you I

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mean you describe them in this way those

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who thing and and say that the present

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climate in the country is not really

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favorable we take oil and gas industry

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for instance is anywhere in the world

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you go and you see any fing station you

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want to refill your car that is not

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shell mobile Chevron

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total how many of them are operating

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fing stations in Nigeria why we are

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selected and they call them investors

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why have they taken to Offshore

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operation abandoning onshore

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operation if they are genu you go to

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Houston Landing houon airport you see

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oil locations you see vegetables planted

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all over there habitable for human

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existence fly to War as you Landing War

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airport look at o locations look at the

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sea all the fish there's no no nothing

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existent no fish is there nothing they

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environment is degraded to criminal

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level are there what we call investors

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people who have no regard to our

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environmental laws are they what you

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call investors people who Now operate to

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double standards apply a different

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application in other countries and then

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apply degrading application to Nigeria

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is that what you call investors please

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if you don't take our destiny in our

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hands we will be doomed for it we must

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find courage and the B I made U must be

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supported to succeed I want I'm not a

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prophet but my experience of life my

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experience doing business for the past

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45 years tells me that this is the man

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to support So Nigeria can become Nigeria

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again let me ask why is I mean you are

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the leader of a political Block in the

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APC the ruling party but it does look

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like internally your party is having

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some political issues and there is a

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decision or the policy of government for

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example the plan relocation of some

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Department uh within the F uh within the

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aviation Ministry and in the CBN is

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causing a lot of Opera and in fact it

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has come to the point that some

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political figures are threatening that

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if the president and the government goes

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ahead with this policy it will have D

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political implication so like what

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example Senator alen Dum was on this

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program okay listen I listened to alen

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dum

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I also listened to Northern Senators

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Forum I listened to the m of Koo it can

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see the preponderance of opinions and

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then the majority opinion is that Merit

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should be the driving criteria for

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decision makings in the

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country the movement of the operational

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operations Department of fund to

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Lagos where Lagos is the major Aviation

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hub

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Aviation Hub is in

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Lagos and if the operations department

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is sent to Lagos to be able to manage

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Aviation

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operations effectively and efficiently I

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have not seen any he in it on the other

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hand the CBN we talking about without to

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Prejudice to whatever anything

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government is saying all the banks all

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the commercial Banks Central Bank is the

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bankers

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Bank their job is to supervise

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Banks and if all the commercial banks

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have their headquarters in

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Legos it goes without saying that the

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the banking supervision Department Of

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Central Bank to be

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resident in Lagos if they must be

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efficient and this is very correct to

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ensure that banking supervision is

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regular efficient and effective

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now there's no how a president Amed

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boltin alone cannot move the capital of

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Nigeria to

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Lagos if you understand the doctrine of

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separation of power and how the

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constitution of the country runs the

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legislature the Judiciary and the

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executive even within the executive that

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we have checks and

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balances so but the Merit should be the

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driving criteria I'm not holding brief

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for Mr President I'm not his

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spokesperson but I think that I was once

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the chairman senate committee on

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Aviation and for me to be able to

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supervise that sector very well I knew

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how many times I went with my committee

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on oversight functions to Lagos and I

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know how much we

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spent and if efficiency to be the name

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of the

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business and the must S cost it means

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that the supervisors and Regulatory

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institutions must be

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resident

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proximity to the residents of the

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operation

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therefore if you move

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F the operations Department of f to

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Lagos to supervise Airlines makes both

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economic and political sense but why are

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some Northern political Elites and

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leaders fighting this no you don't

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understand I'm telling you that the

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president Amed

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boltin has come with both policies to

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rescue our

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economy and here comes those he defeated

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in the field during

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elections sponsoring campaign of

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Calum sponsoring black propaganda to

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deme his government and

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achievements and I can tell you s they

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did this to the former president

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president Muhammad bhari and they almost

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succeeded but this time around we will

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rise to the

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occasion we will do whatever it will

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take to identify this black legs in the

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country and call them to order so when

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they said it there is a hidden agenda

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between I mean behind those plans you

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don't think that that listen you know

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you were here in the country in in the

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last election Nigerians voted for

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President M ASU ahed dumu because he's a

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p Nigerian he's a highly detalized Niger

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he's a creative thinker he's a man of

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ideas even when he chose his running

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m in the Muslim Muslim

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ticket those reasonable people who

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initially were against it seeing the B

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steps he's taken now have come to terms

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with the reality and they have started

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commending him so it is not about gossip

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it is not about blackma so you you I

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mean they said it was a work of the

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Lagos boys there is there is atic am I

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am I a Legos

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boy I'm from Southeast I'm the chairman

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of Southeast Governor Forum five states

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I'm the chairman of progressive Governor

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Forum 20 Governors and we are unan us in

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supporting president

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B to ensure that his

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in rescuing this economy in rescuing

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this country in making sure that we

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live according to the expectations of

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our find founding fathers and I can tell

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you 7 months or 8 months into his four

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years mandate is not enough to judge him

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so why they hry some people are

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suffering from anxiety

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curosis some people are not able to come

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to terms with the reality of the on the

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ground and and I am confident like I

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told

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you I have my belief that if this man is

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not able to get this country correct

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then something must be wrong let's take

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a breather uh there's so much more to

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talk about um the former I mean the the

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United States Secretary of State Anthony

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blinkin has his own view about the

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approach of President bolatino there is

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the issue of security situation even the

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governor of IMO State on a day

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that they will refer to as a sit at home

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day in OS say he chose the inauguration

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to be on that day there are a lot of

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issues he's the chair of the southeast

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Governors forum and all of these

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security situation those asking for

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restructuring these are more issues we

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dig deeper into some of these issues

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when we return after this break everyone

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join us

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[Music]

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again welcome back everyone let's

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continue our conversation with the chair

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of the AP Governor Forum the progressive

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Governor forum and he's also the chair

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of the southeast Governor Forum the

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governor of IMO state senator hope whoa

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thank you so much your Excellency for

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your time tonight thank you let's get to

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the issue of security uh for a moment uh

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Governors are called Chief security

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officers of the estate but how much of

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that power do the governors have

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kidnappings are happening in most part

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of the country what are you telling

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yourselves as a block in soling these

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problems in your different uh uh

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States well there's no doubt the

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governors are chief security officers of

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the

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state because Nigeria is a

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federation and there are two governments

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in

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world one is the federal government and

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the second are the federating

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units therefore to be able to operate in

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a simp manner we need to have the proper

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Synergy that will be because the

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security according to the Constitution

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of the federal republic

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Nigeria is in the exclusive legislative

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list therefore what is expected of the

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subnational government is to keep in and

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have a working Synergy between the

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federal

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establishment and that of the

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subnational government the reason being

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that security is very expensive and I

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can't see any subnational government in

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Nigeria

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today that can fund

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completely the cost of providing

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adequate Security in the various

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subnational

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governments so working together as a

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federation we have to manage our work

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programs in Synergy with the federal

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security systems so when people said

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Governors are handicapped I don't agree

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that Governors are handicapped so you

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have all what it takes to fix security

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problem in your state we need support

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from federal government it is a it is

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job in

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progress we need to articulate properly

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working in Synergy with Federal security

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agencies as a subnational government how

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we can create a working

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relationship that will allow us to be on

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the same page

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to be able to fight crime in the country

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the reason being that the might is with

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federal government the economy of

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subnational government is laying the

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funding requirement is enous so it has

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to

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be a collaboration do the state

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Governors think that there's a need for

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State policing yeah it is even the

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federal government have

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allowed the Vigilante approach I ad

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minate governments are able to fund an

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effective and efficient vigilante

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organization State policing cannot work

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is that what you're saying it will only

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work if states are in position to fund

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it so when we talk about through

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federalism we are not

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joking first of all as I speak so many

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of our

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states cannot even fund our existence

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without allocation from fedal

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government and the meaning of

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government is not coming to consume the

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meaning of government is you face as at

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a subnational level if you a state what

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the onions you make the money before you

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can spend it but those who are crying

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for restructuring those who have

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clamored for restructuring are saying

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State policing is one way to go so

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you're saying that the state government

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the subnational as it is presently

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constituted cannot properly Run State

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Police no it is not running State Police

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when you talk of restructuring we are

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already a federation with subnational

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government the first thing to establish

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is how many states are

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avable because the

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geographical the geographical

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jurisdiction of a state and What Makes

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You autonomous as a federating unit is

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your ability to

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exist if you are a state that is

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existing at the Mery of federal

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government it is not left for you to say

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whether you want existence or

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not so we think that we need subnational

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governments that will face whether

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subnational or federal government you

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must first earn the money before you can

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spend it so I mean is this the the

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reason why aagu is not really working in

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the Southeast no no I don't know what

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you mean we don't have I have IMO

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security organization but that was a

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regional security network put together

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by the Govern it was an acronym a global

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acronym for Southeast security

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organization but any more State what I

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have is IMO security organization and is

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a vigilante group that has a a program

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for both the traditional rulers the time

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Union president to come together with

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Security Agency is to provide quality

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intelligence for security agencies to

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operate is it working it is working and

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that is why we were able to overcome

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what would be failed IM must state in

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the last 3 years is that one of the

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reason why you boldly took because there

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are those who are saying why will

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Governor put his inauguration on the

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Monday there are those who who feel that

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that is some kind of I mean what message

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do you want to pass no usually sit at

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home day is a constitutional issue I was

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sworn in on 15th January

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2020 and then it to be sworn in again

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for the second time 15th

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January uh

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2024 and it happens to be on a Monday

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and by which time God has already

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intervened our efforts and the

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contributions to allow an enabling

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environment for good governance was

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almost in place so and our people the

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reaction of IMO people who

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appreciated my outing for the first

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time defied every threat and came out so

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you went ahead and do it anyway of

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course I did it so but I mean you are

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you're running on your second term now

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and those who are afraid that will be

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complacent and that complacency is a

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fear of the second term syndrome where

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Governors get chief executive get into

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office and the forget all the promises

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because they are not seeking reelection

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no those who are thinking of that are

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people that are under

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illusion because when I came the first

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time I came with the

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88

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Manifesto and those who have copies of

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those Manifesto will see clearly that

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despite the challenges I had in my first

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time I was able to achieve

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75% or more of the promises in that

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Manifesto otherwise called my vision doc

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Vision document now coming again second

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time now I said during my

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inauguration that I my second time

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outing will DW the achievements of my

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first time is making now people of IMO

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State I even said On My Honor I swore to

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it and the sh I want to tell you I'm a

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creative thinker without fear of anybody

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accusing me of intellectual arrogance

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I'm a creative thinker and understands

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the geography and the workings of the

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political system of the state and I know

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what my people want and I'm working

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towards what my people wants and I must

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change the narrative before I leave so

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you what are you what commitment are you

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making to them tonight people are

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watching by the time I will be I will be

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living as the second time governor of

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IMO State IMO state will never be known

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for bad news but you promised them some

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jobs that I mean there there are going

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to be foreign jobs to them have you kept

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to that promise I have listen see

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creative thinking is the order of the

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day when I came I looked at the

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situation in IMO State too the poverty

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was too

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much unemployment Market was huge and I

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so clearly that if we don't cure the

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reduce the level of unemployment in IMO

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State there will be no

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economy I looked at the the the the the

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curriculum the school

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curriculum and the the kind of gr being

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chunked

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out social sciences history arts and

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culture and all that and I checked the

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market and you must balance demand and

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supply and what was in the market market

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is already gone to a digital status

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digital

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economy now I created what I call

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digital Ministry Ministry of digital

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economy and what did I do I created a

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program called skill ofo digital skills

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I introduced new digital skills I

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graduated the first 5,000

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people all of them are working

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100% the second graduation skill up IMO

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to go to I graduated

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15,000 75% are working now and some of

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them are now employers of Labor and now

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leverage on Mr President's visit to

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India and Dubai where he signed

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anou that will allow India and Dubai to

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come to

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Nigeria to bring out the kind of digal

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Digital Services they require and they

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get people to be employed I leveraged on

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it and then amended my regimen

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and

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then employ recruited another

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40,000 the implication of that is that

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the Cisco the company the consultant

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that certifies this digital skills and

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gives them provisional licenses and

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certificates we certify people in IMO

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State and the companies outside Nigeria

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will employ them to work for them as I

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speak to you under my digital

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schem over 6,000 people are working for

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foreign companies you promised 4,000

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foreign jobs I I have more than 4,000

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already working certified certified

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working how how can Nigerians be able to

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verify visit IMO State

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website you find information for

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yourself that 4,000 emo more than 4,000

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are working are foreign jobs with they

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have even an alumin platform now and

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each time I want them at press of a

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button they

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respond I have computed and automated

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transactions and processes in IMO state

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government and the governance in IMO

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state has moved from the Stone Age to

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the dist stage let me ask you you

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mentioned this I mean uh the state of

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Texas the other time I mean you you're

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talking about Houston and you talk about

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the relationship to oil production and

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that's one thing that you can identify

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with the state of Texas in the United

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States as a governor of imos State what

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would you like your state to be

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identified for recall that the National

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Economic Council at the last

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se he consulted the K committee and met

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me me the chairman of that

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committee I've had two

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meetings in that

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committee the first

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discovery that despite the crude oil

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theft the so-called crude oil theft that

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has be clouded our economy and the

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country that the regulatory

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responsibility of

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government has not been up

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to

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expectations what is

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more do you know that under the pre

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shipment act

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2004 Import and Export that all exports

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in the country requires export

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permit and all export permits granted

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the process must be

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repated back to the Central Bank of

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Nigeria that including nmpc and all the

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oil companies in

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Nigeria that 90% of them are not to

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reparing the process of crude oil export

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back to the country making the solvency

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margin of our local

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currency

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dant so as a intering major I have just

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written to the oil o all oil companies

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including the

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NC who is currently regulating oil

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production in Nigeria to ensure that

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before they issue C oil export

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permit for in any quarter to any oil

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companies that there must be evidence of

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the repatriation of the process of the

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previous export to Central Bank attached

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to the application

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that is the only way we can have dollars

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that the only way dollars will not be

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scar that is the only way Nigeria can be

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relevant Nigerian na can be strong and

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solvent to kill the cabals within that

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sector that is it and that is what the

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president is suffering so there are Cab

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in security there are cabals in the I

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say cabal in security you know because

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yes you know because you will have

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people who may be vulnerable but I'm

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saying that if if for instance we're

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exporting 1 million barrels of crude oil

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and you have exported it under an oil

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permit export permit that the cost of

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that 1 million bar SC oil in dollars

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should come back to Nigeria as what do

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we have as an as our export

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Governor I need us to wrap up now um

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what would do you think that IMO State

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should be known for under your watch

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under my watch I want to create you know

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I have a mant

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of three hour

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Rehabilitation reconstruction and

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recovery and the whole destination is

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prosperity so under this Mantra I want

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to recover all the assess roads recover

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infrastructure create jobs and how do I

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create

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jobs I need

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power I need Industries Industries

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cannot come if they have power I've

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created and gotten approval from the

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presidency or R oil processing free

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trade zone where we ra UT lake or river

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to the

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Sea where we provide or power

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development company where arise power

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development company will transmit and

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distribute power to Industries where we

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will maximize the abundancy of our

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endowment gas IMO state has the highest

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gas res have in the

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country speaking as today so I have what

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I call I have what I call gas

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optimization program create an economy

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we we have 30 seconds to go I understand

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that people are now justl for who

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becomes you just few months into or few

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weeks into the office and people are

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already just laning for who succeed you

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very interesting politics but in 30

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seconds if you can tell us uh there is

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hiia there is Oka there isba there a lot

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of political opponents that you've had

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how do you hope to bring back your

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political enemies or political opponents

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back to the table now that the elections

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are over we have 30 seconds to go if you

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listen to me during my inauguration I

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called on all the political Gladiators

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in IM of

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state to come together let's unite and

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develop our state power belongs to God

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as I speak to you I don't know who will

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suceed me only God knows is as simple as

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that governor who the chair of the APC

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uh the progressive Governor Forum thank

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you so much indeed and the governor of

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IM thank you so much before I leave you

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I must say one thing one second that the

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political situation in the country

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democracy we are practicing is

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government of the people for the people

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and by the people let those who did not

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win or who lost during the last election

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find courage and time to recontest but

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however encourage the current president

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in his programs so Nigeria will be

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better off for it thank you thank you

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sir senator for your time well just

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before we go and here is my final word

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tonight Mr President Senator Batu it is

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to you tonight that I bring the burden

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and plight of our people too I trust

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this message finds you in good health

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and High Spirit as you continue to

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navigate the intricate responsibilities

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that come with the esteemed position

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position you hold it is with a heavy

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heart and deep concern that I pass this

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message on the current state of our

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beloved Nation Nigeria in a time when

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the heartbeat of our nation is Raising

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with fear and the Very fabric of our

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society is tearing at the seems we stand

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at the crossroads president tbu the

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nation calls for your undivided

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attention as you embark on a private

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visit to France our beloved Nigeria is

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grappling with unprecedented challenges

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that demand urgent and decisive action

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kidnapping and abductions at the order

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of the day from Lagos to kaduna taraba

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and violent and criminal activities have

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pervaded our land even in the heart of

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our nation's capital the audacity of

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kidnappers has become a Sinister reality

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striking fear into the hearts of our

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people our citizens are living in

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constant fear unsure of their safety and

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the safety all their loved ones this is

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not the Nigeria we dreamed of not the

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renewed hope that was promised we

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applaud the gallantry of our security

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operatives but indeed more work still

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needs to be done to keep the people safe

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efforts are being made but it appears

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they are not far enough what has become

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the strategies of of the strategies of

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State policing and community policing

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that's been talked about several years

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and the huge white papers and advisory

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notes on how to tackle insecurity in

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Nigeria where are they president suu as

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a pro democracy agitator isn't it the

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right time to restructure Nigeria for it

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to work properly is the Nigeria you and

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your friends fought for is it the

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Nigeria that you're talking about the

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removal of subsidies has Unleashed a

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tighter wave of economic downturn living

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families struggling to make ends meet

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prices of Commodities have gone through

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the roof the biting effects have felt

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Across the Nation and the loss of

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confidence in the government is palpable

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this is not the time for complacency it

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is a time for Bo on wavering leadership

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Mr President I think it is about time to

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get the nation's egg in one room and

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find a lasting cure to our alien economy

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as you stand on foreign so Mr President

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remember the weight of your on your of

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your responsibility to the Nigerian

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people as Citizens including those who

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voted for you are losing faith in the

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government the implications of the loss

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of confidence are far-reaching and as a

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leader you cannot afford to look away

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investors are flee the nation like never

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before economy potential of Nigeria is

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being squandered and the consequences

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will be fed for Generations we hge you

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Mr President to take immediate measures

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to create an environment that attracts

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and retains investment the clock is

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ticking and our economic future is at

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stake Mr President the time to act is

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now Swift and decisive measures are

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needed to C the escalating insecurity

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allev the economy burden on Citizen and

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restore the confidence in the government

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this is not only a call to fulfill

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campaign promises but a plea for the

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preservation of our great nation Mr

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President our regional leadership is

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hanging in the balance some members of

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echos are signaling exit and Nigeria's

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influence is under threat it is time to

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reart your leadership strengthen

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diplomatic ties and secure our place in

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the committee of Nations as journalists

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who will not shy away from probing

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inspiring and holding leaders

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accountable president tunu live up to

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the expectations of your calling and the

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man upon which your office stands the

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Nigerian people deserve more they

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deserve a leader who acts with urgency

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integrity and unweaving commitment to

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the well-being of our great nation the

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challenges may be daunting but if you

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are Resolute and carry the people along

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we can all together overcome the giant

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of Africa must now rise and take his

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rightful place in the committee of

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nation and uness his potential for the

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Nigerian people to smile again God bless

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this federal republic of Nigeria and

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this is my final word tonight good night

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[Music]

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everyone

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