Dune 2 - Philosophical Analysis

Julian de Medeiros
8 Mar 202409:07

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Julian explores 'Dune 2', delving into philosophical concepts like Hegel's 'cunning of reason' and Lacan's 'master signifier'. He discusses how Paul Atreides' resistance to his destined role as the savior paradoxically fulfills it, highlighting the film's ideological critique of the hero narrative. Julian praises the film for its depth, noting its subversion of traditional Hollywood endings and its portrayal of the hero's role as ideologically suspect.

Takeaways

  • 🎬 The speaker, Julian, discusses 'Dune 2' as a cinematic adaptation of Frank Herbert's novel, focusing on philosophical concepts rather than its fidelity to the source material.
  • 🤔 Julian introduces the Hegelian concept of 'cunning of reason' and the Lacan's 'master signifier' to interpret the film's narrative and the character development of Paul Atreides.
  • 😂 He highlights a humorous scene where Paul denies being the Savior, which paradoxically convinces the Fremen of his messiah status, illustrating the master signifier in action.
  • 🔮 The film portrays Paul's destiny as being shaped by his resistance to it, embodying the Hegelian idea that history unfolds through opposition to dominant narratives.
  • 📚 Julian explains that for Hegel, reason or history is advanced not by compliance but through resistance, using the assassination of Caesar as a historical example.
  • 💡 The speaker suggests that Paul's realization of his role and the need to embrace it represents a subjective shift and a deeper understanding of his destiny.
  • 👑 A pivotal scene is described where Paul asserts his leadership, positioning himself not just as an equal but as a 'master' figure, disrupting societal norms.
  • 💔 The movie contrasts individual love with a revolutionary love for a cause, with Paul ultimately choosing the latter, which is antithetical to traditional Hollywood endings.
  • 🌟 Julian praises the film's ideological critique of the hero figure, suggesting that the role of a savior is inherently suspect and can be a guise for evil.
  • 🤝 The final confrontation in the film is seen as a reflection on the unity of opposites and the ideological pessimism that resistance may perpetuate the status quo.
  • 📽 The speaker anticipates audience reactions to these themes in the upcoming installment and invites viewers to join a live stream for further discussion.

Q & A

  • What is the main philosophical concept discussed in the video script regarding the film 'Dune 2'?

    -The main philosophical concepts discussed are the Hegelian concept of the cunning of reason and the Lacanain concept of the master signifier or master frame.

  • How does the video script interpret Paul Atreides' claim of not being the Savior in 'Dune 2'?

    -The script interprets Paul Atreides' claim as an example of the master signifier in action, where his denial is seen as further evidence of his savior status due to his humility.

  • What does the video script suggest about the nature of history according to Hegel?

    -The script suggests that history does not have a predetermined path but unfolds in a predetermined way through resistance to the master signifier or the dominant ideology.

  • How does the video script relate the concept of the cunning of reason to the character of Paul Atreides in 'Dune 2'?

    -The script relates the cunning of reason to Paul Atreides by suggesting that he fulfills his destiny by attempting to resist it, embodying the idea that history unfolds through resistance.

  • What is the significance of the scene where Paul Atreides confronts the Fremen tribal leaders in 'Dune 2' according to the video script?

    -The scene signifies Paul Atreides' transformation into the Hegelian master, where he imposes himself as the leader, shedding the existing norms and structures of the Fremen society.

  • How does the video script describe the relationship between love and destiny in 'Dune 2'?

    -The script describes a tension between individual, particular love and revolutionary love for the cause, with Paul Atreides ultimately choosing the latter, which is seen as a betrayal of his love interest.

  • What is the ideological message of 'Dune 2' according to the video script?

    -The ideological message is that the role of the hero or savior is always suspect and that the act of resistance against oppressors can further fuel oppression, challenging traditional Hollywood narratives.

  • How does the video script analyze the ending of 'Dune 2' in terms of ideology?

    -The script analyzes the ending as a moment of ideological pessimism, where Paul Atreides' realization that he is part of the evil he fights is presented as a broader critique of the idea of absolute good.

  • What does the video script suggest about the audience's potential reaction to 'Dune 2'?

    -The script suggests that the audience may find the film's ideological message challenging, as it subverts the traditional narrative of the savior figure and exposes the ideology behind such figures.

  • What additional content does the video script mention will be provided in a live stream lecture?

    -The script mentions that a longer lecture on the philosophical concepts discussed in 'Dune 2' will be provided in an upcoming live stream, along with the opportunity for patrons to download an ebook and other lectures.

Outlines

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🎬 'Dune' and the Hegelian Cunning of Reason

In this paragraph, Julian discusses the philosophical concepts present in 'Dune 2', focusing on the Hegelian idea of the cunning of reason and the Lacan's concept of the master signifier. He appreciates the film as a rich cinematic work and highlights a comedic yet insightful scene where Paul Atreides denies being the savior, which paradoxically confirms his destiny. Julian explains how this scene exemplifies the master signifier's influence on perception and interpretation, and how Paul's resistance to his role ultimately fulfills the prophecy, illustrating Hegel's concept of history unfolding through resistance. The discussion delves into the Platonic and Hegelian views of reason, using the assassination of Caesar as an example of how actions meant to preserve can lead to the opposite outcome, reflecting the central theme of the film that the role of the savior is ideologically complex and often self-defeating.

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🌟 Paul Atreides' Transformation and the Ideological Critique in 'Dune'

This paragraph explores Paul Atreides' transformation in 'Dune' from a potential savior to a figure who embodies the Hegelian master, transcending norms and structures to impose himself as a leader. Julian emphasizes the film's portrayal of revolutionary love versus subjective love, where Paul must forsake personal love to fulfill his destiny for the cause. The summary touches on the film's ideological critique of the traditional Hollywood narrative of a savior overcoming evil, suggesting that such a narrative is itself a guise of evil. The paragraph concludes with a discussion of the film's ideological pessimism, where resistance to oppression inadvertently fuels it, and the final scene where the mother of Paul Atreides highlights the unity of opposites, challenging the notion of sides and suggesting a deeper, more complex understanding of good and evil.

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Keywords

💡Dune 2

Dune 2 refers to the cinematic sequel to the film adaptation of Frank Herbert's novel 'Dune'. It is the main subject of the video, exploring its themes and philosophical concepts. The script discusses how the film can be appreciated as a work of art in its own right, separate from its fidelity to the source material.

💡Hegelian Concept of Cunning of Reason

The 'Cunning of Reason' is a philosophical concept attributed to Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, suggesting that history unfolds through a process where reason uses individuals and events, often in opposition to their own intentions, to achieve a higher purpose. In the context of the video, it is used to interpret Paul Atreides' struggle and eventual acceptance of his destiny, illustrating how his resistance paradoxically fulfills the prophecy.

💡Master Signifier

The 'Master Signifier' is a concept from Lacanian psychoanalysis, referring to a symbol or concept that shapes the perception and interpretation of reality. The video uses this term to describe how the Fremen people interpret Paul Atreides' denial of being the savior as further proof of his messiah status, demonstrating how a master signifier can dictate the narrative and perception of events.

💡Fremen

The Fremen are a group of people indigenous to the planet Arrakis in the 'Dune' universe. In the script, they are depicted as having a significant role in interpreting and perpetuating the prophecy of the savior, highlighting the influence of collective belief and the master signifier in shaping their understanding of Paul Atreides.

💡Prophecy

In the context of 'Dune', a prophecy refers to the foretold arrival of a messiah figure who will lead the Fremen people to freedom. The video discusses how the prophecy serves as a master signifier, influencing the Fremen's perception of Paul Atreides and their interpretation of his actions.

💡Subjective Shift

A 'Subjective Shift' refers to a change in an individual's perspective or understanding of their role or situation. The script describes how Paul Atreides undergoes such a shift, realizing that his resistance to his destiny is actually part of the narrative that makes him the savior, leading to his acceptance of his role.

💡Revolutionary Love

Revolutionary Love is presented in the video as a love for a cause or an idea, as opposed to individual or personal love. It is discussed in the context of Paul Atreides having to choose between his love for Chani and his destiny as the savior, ultimately suggesting that his commitment to the cause must outweigh personal affection.

💡Ideological Suspicion

The term 'Ideological Suspicion' is used in the script to express doubt or skepticism towards the role of the hero or savior in society. It suggests that the very concept of a savior figure can be problematic, as it may perpetuate or reinforce existing power structures or ideologies.

💡Hegelian Unity of Opposites

The 'Hegelian Unity of Opposites' refers to the philosophical idea that opposing forces or concepts can be reconciled or unified to form a higher level of understanding. In the video, this concept is used to interpret the final confrontation in 'Dune 2', where the mother of Paul Atreides realizes that the conflict is not about choosing sides but transcending the dichotomy.

💡Evil in the Disguise of Good

This phrase is used in the script to describe the complex nature of morality and the potential for actions perceived as good to actually perpetuate or embody evil. It is applied to Paul Atreides' realization that his role as the savior might be a form of the very evil he is fighting against, challenging traditional narratives of good versus evil.

💡Pity the Nation That Needs a Hero

This phrase, attributed to Bertolt Brecht, is used in the script to critique the reliance on hero figures in society. It suggests that a society which needs a hero may be flawed, as it places too much power or expectation on a single individual, which can be problematic or even oppressive.

Highlights

Introduction to discussing 'Dune 2' through the lens of Hegelian and Lacan's philosophical concepts.

Praise for 'Dune 2' as a rich and interesting cinematic work, independent of its fidelity to the novel.

Analysis of the humorous yet significant scene where Paul Atreides denies being the Savior.

Explanation of the master signifier and its role in shaping perception and interpretation within a narrative.

Paul Atreides' resistance to destiny as an embodiment of the Hegelian concept of the cunning of Reason.

The historical example of Caesar's assassination to illustrate the cunning of Reason in action.

The subjective shift Paul Atreides undergoes, realizing his resistance fuels the narrative.

The pivotal scene where Paul Atreides asserts his leadership, signifying his transformation into a Hegelian master.

The theme of revolutionary love versus subjective love and its impact on Paul Atreides' destiny.

The film's antithetical stance to traditional Hollywood endings, emphasizing sacrifice over personal love.

The ideological critique of the hero or savior figure as inherently suspect.

The final confrontation in 'Dune 2' and its reflection on the unity of opposites and the nature of ideology.

The film's portrayal of the hero's role as a guise for evil, challenging Hollywood's mythological narratives.

Anticipation for audience reactions to the ideological themes in the upcoming third installment of 'Dune'.

Invitation to support the creator as a patron for access to additional content and resources.

Transcripts

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hello everybody this is me Julian today I'd like  to talk about Dune 2 the Denville andov cinematic  

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adaptation of the Frank Herbert novel specifically  I'd like to talk about the hegelian concept of the  

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[ __ ] of reason as well as the leanian concept  of the master signifier or the master frame now I  

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want to say first that I think this is a wonderful  film it's very interesting it's very rich I'm not  

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going to discuss it in terms of whether or not  it's a successful adaptation I want to consider  

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it as a cinematic work in its own right personally  I think that one of the most interesting scenes in  

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the movie and one which actually got a surprising  amount of laughs when I was in the theater is when  

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Paul at trates says that he is not the Savior and  at this point the leader of the freman actually  

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goes back to his people and says aha can't you  see of course he is the savior but he is too  

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humble his humility is precisely further evidence  of him being the Savior It's a Wonderful sequence  

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with a certain comedic undertone that got a lot of  good responses in the movie theater that I was in  

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but it's also a perfect example of the master  signifier or the master frame essentially the  

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master signifier colors in the manner in which  you see or view I.E interpret everything else  

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according to a predetermined narrative this  is essentially what the order of the benzar  

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have accomplished they've introduced a master  frame a master signifier that is all powerful  

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thereby everything will be interpreted as being  a full fulfilling of the prophecy especially any  

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resistance to the prophecy and I think what's  really key here is that Paul trades therefore  

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fulfills his Destiny precisely by attempting to  resist it this is perhaps the best illustration  

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of the hegelian concept of the cunning of Reason  Hegel never argued that the cunning of reason was  

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that history had a predetermined path that you  sort of slavishly had to follow it was the exact  

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other way around it was at precisely through the  resistance to the master signifier to Capital age  

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history that history unfolded in a predetermined  way now when Hegel argues that it is the cunning  

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of reason he means cunning in a platonic sense  remember for Plato the platonic dialogue or the  

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socratic dialogue to be precise in which Socrates  argues or debates with his interlocutors never  

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serves to Simply exchange ideas it's not a panel  on television where we get to hear from both sides  

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instead Socrates is always supposed to be the sole  philosopher the one who comes out more wise in  

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other words the interlocutor the respondent acts  as someone who facilitates Socrates ascendance in  

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his argumentive logical structure this means that  strictly speaking he's employing the cunning of  

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reason he's not simply debating the other person  and proving him wrong he's actually allowing the  

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other person in his resistance to help Socrates  unfold his own positions therefore this antithesis  

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this resistance to Socrates positions is a  necessary component of the formal mechanism by  

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which his argument achieves its higher synthesis  or conclusion the same can be said from the  

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hegelian perspective of the cunning of Reason what  makes reason which is for Hegel always synonymous  

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with the idea of History namely reason Fen versus  Fant which is simple knowing in the world I.E  

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empirical knowing in the world versus a higher  idealist knowing Fen understanding reason what  

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makes that for Hegel similar to the socratic  dialogue is that the knowing subject doesn't  

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simply willingly participate in the unfolding of  reason but always resists it and precisely in his  

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resistance there too achieves it the example that  Hegel uses actually comes from history he writes  

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about the assassination of Caesar Hegel writes  that when Caesar was assassinated it was supposed  

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to be to protect the Republic and yet what the  Senators didn't understand or see was that it was  

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precisely the demise of Caesar that would bring  about cesarian ISM in the reign of Augustus in  

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other words the very attempt to save the Republic  therefore sealed its fate and for Hegel this is  

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the central animating feature of all history  that the things that are supposed to preserve  

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something end up undoing it think about today  how conservatives think of themselves as being  

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those who protect the past and yet fundamentally  they're the ones who are destroying the future  

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now from the perspective of Dune of course Paul  atres therefore has to undergo a subjective shift  

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by which he realizes that his very resistance  is only fueling The Narrative and therefore at  

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a certain point he has to subjectively embrace it  and this is where I think we have perhaps what is  

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the most healan scene in the entire movie at  a certain point Paul trates shows up at the  

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Gathering of the tribal leaders the freman and  he is supposed to take his place amongst them  

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only a leader is allowed to speak which would  mean that he would have to kill one of them in  

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order to take his place and at this point PA  trates walks in like a self-destructive fool  

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as it were it's like upending the temple he begins  to yell at them in an aggressive abrasive way and  

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tells them that he will not be one of them he will  be the leader of them here we have the moment in  

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which Paul trates essentially becomes the hegelian  master instead of Simply being the best amongst  

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equals he is the one who willfully forces his  way through what existed hitherto as the Norms  

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of that Society therefore imposing himself as  the master the one who can shed the previously  

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existing norms and structures in his name this  is the moment in which Paul trates becomes the  

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monster figure he becomes the nian Uber mench if  you will who has identified fully with his role  

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in history and what's so key about the sequence  I think is that this sequence is therefore also  

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framed as the moment in which Paul atres betrays  his love one of the central themes of this movie  

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is revolutionary or love versus the idea of  subjective love Paul trates has individual  

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particular love for a femine woman he is cautioned  that this lies in the path of his Destiny his  

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Destiny of course is a revolutionary love it's  a love for the cause and at a certain point he  

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realizes that the love for the cause therefore  has to outweigh the love for his particular  

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Destiny this means that the movie accomplishes  what is essentially completely antithetical to  

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the traditional Hollywood ending instead of saying  that Paul trades is the one who foros the cause so  

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as to be with the woman he loves he actually has  to let go of the woman he loves so as to inhabit  

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his Destiny it's a beautiful gesture from Denise  vov which leaves us with the opposite of a happy  

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ending namely the love interest going back into  the desert a lover spored now finally what i'  

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would like to say about this film apart from the  fact that I think there's so much more to be said  

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and I'd like like to explore it in the upcoming  live stream lecture is that the film essentially  

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shows us that the role of the hero the role of  the savior is always ideologically suspect as  

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baral bre once wrote um in I think it was in the  Kaz kidaki or perhaps no it's in mother courage  

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pity the nation that needs a hero indeed pity the  entire world order that needs competing competing  

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or dueling Heroes and the most heelan sequence in  the entire movie comes at the very end when the  

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two benzer face off and the mother who is the  mother of poit trates who believes that she is  

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the victor of the situation says to the other Benz  you have chosen the wrong side at which point she  

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looks at her and says you are so naive because  you still believe in sides and here we're back  

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at the hegelian unity of opposite the ideological  pessimism of this movie is that the very Act of  

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resistance against the oppressors only further  fuels the oppression therefore the realization  

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that pait trates has that he himself is har Conan  should be taken on a much more broad level it's  

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not simply that he is of the same bloodline as  the very evil that he is fighting it is that he  

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himself is evil in the disguise of good or to put  it in hegelian terms evil is simply the good which  

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believes itself to be absolutely good therefore  what this movie does so brilliantly in a very  

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hegelian way is that it exposes the ideology  of Hollywood it essentially argues that this  

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mythological Narrative of the Savior figure who's  supposed to combat and overcome evil is itself  

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the face or the guise of evil and personally I'm  looking forward to seeing how audiences will react  

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to that in the third installment thank you so  much for watching and I'll try to record a longer  

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lecture on this uh in my live stream until then  thank you so much and don't forget to become a  

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patron because you'll be able to download my ebook  and all of my lectures and more stuff see you then

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