Criminólogo entrevistó a un descuartizador y explica una macabra anécdota a Jordi Wild

The Wild Project
4 Dec 202306:09

Summary

TLDRThe video script discusses the disturbing yet intriguing topic of dismembering a body post-mortem. It explores the psychological aspects of such an act, suggesting that it is not a sign of excessive coldness but rather a reaction to fear and panic, particularly when the perpetrator is dealing with a large stash of drugs and the potential consequences of being caught. The speaker recounts a case where a man dismembered his victim's body over two months due to a lack of strength and will to dispose of it quickly. This act was driven by the need to eliminate evidence and protect oneself from severe punishment. The video also touches on the reasons people might dismember a body, which include necessity for survival, protection of another person, or criminal motivations. It emphasizes the moral violence associated with dismembering a body and the powerful motivations behind such an unnatural and violent act.

Takeaways

  • 🔍 The act of dismembering a body does not necessarily indicate excessive coldness but could be driven by fear and panic, as illustrated by the case discussed in the script.
  • 🚫 Fear of being caught with a large drug stash can lead to extreme actions such as dismembering a body to avoid police scrutiny, as mentioned by the subject in the interview.
  • 🕰️ The process of dismembering a body can be prolonged, as the individual in the case study kept the body in his room for two months, dismembering it piece by piece over time.
  • 🤔 The decision to stop dismembering was not due to the task being too complicated, but rather an emotional limit being reached, particularly after dismembering the head.
  • 🗑️ The method of disposal involved putting body parts in garbage bags and throwing them away to avoid detection, highlighting a concern for not being caught.
  • 🧐 The investigator questioned why the dismemberment process was not completed more quickly, which led to further insight into the psychological aspects of the crime.
  • 🧑 The first part of the body to be dismembered is typically the head, as it represents the person's individuality and humanity, which the perpetrator may wish to avoid confronting.
  • 🚫 Dismembering a body is considered a moral taboo, and doing so without having killed the person is extremely rare and generally only occurs for specific reasons such as survival, protection, or concealment of a murder.
  • 🔎 The investigator's research confirmed suspicions that dismembering a body is usually a criminal act, driven by strong motivations such as avoiding a life sentence in prison.
  • 🏥 The idea of spending a long time in prison is a deterrent for some, leading them to extreme measures like dismembering a body to avoid being caught and convicted.
  • 🤨 The script challenges the notion that anyone would dismember a body, suggesting that it requires a specific mindset and motivation, rather than being a common reaction.

Q & A

  • What does the speaker suggest about the act of dismembering a body?

    -The speaker suggests that dismembering a body is an act that indicates a strong motivation behind it, often related to criminal elements or self-preservation.

  • Why does the speaker think that the head is usually the first part to be dismembered?

    -The head is usually the first part to be dismembered because it contains the face, which represents the person's individuality and humanity. Removing the head eliminates the accusing eyes and the human aspect of the victim.

  • What was the man's motive for dismembering the woman's body according to the speaker?

    -The man's motive was to dispose of the body because he was afraid of being implicated in her death and wanted to avoid a lengthy prison sentence.

  • What did the speaker find out about the possibility of dismembering a body without killing the person?

    -The speaker discovered that dismembering a body without killing the person is possible but is usually done for specific reasons such as necessity for food, protection of another person, or in the case of having killed the person.

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  • Why did the man stop dismembering the woman's body?

    -The man stopped dismembering the woman's body because he could not bear to continue after he had cut off her head, which was too emotionally overwhelming for him.

  • What does the speaker imply about the psychological state of someone who dismembers a body?

    -The speaker implies that someone who dismembers a body must have a very strong psychological drive or be in a state of extreme distress and fear, as it is a highly unnatural and violent act.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the commonality of dismembering a body in criminal cases?

    -The speaker believes that dismembering a body is not a common act even among criminals, as it breaks a significant moral taboo and requires a powerful motivation.

  • What was the man's initial reaction after the woman's accidental death?

    -The man was very scared because he had a large stash of drugs and did not want to call the police or medical services for fear they would find and investigate the drugs.

  • How did the man dispose of the body parts after dismembering them?

    -The man would cut off a piece of the body and then wait for the garbage truck to come, put the piece in a bag, and throw it away to avoid it being in the container for too long.

  • What was the man's reason for keeping the body in his bedroom for two months?

    -The man kept the body in his bedroom because he did not have the strength or will to dispose of it quickly and effectively, and he was trying to figure out how to get rid of it without being caught.

  • What did the speaker conclude about the man's actions after interviewing him?

    -The speaker concluded that the man's actions were driven by a need for self-preservation and a fear of being implicated in the woman's death, rather than a lack of empathy or coldness.

Outlines

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😨 Disposing of a Body: A Criminal's Dilemma

This paragraph discusses the case of a man who dismembered a woman's body after she died accidentally in his home. He was afraid to call the police due to a large stash of drugs and decided to dispose of the body by cutting it into pieces over two months. The man could not bring himself to dismember the head, as it represents the victim's humanity. The speaker also explores the reasons people might dismember a body, including for survival, to protect someone, or because they committed the murder. The information provided was crucial in the investigation.

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😱 The Psychological Aspects of Dismemberment

This paragraph delves into the psychological reasons behind dismembering a body. The speaker argues that it takes a strong motivation to commit such a violent, unnatural act. Dismembering a body is a huge moral taboo, and if someone is capable of doing it, they must have a powerful reason. The speaker also discusses the concept of self-preservation, as disposing of a body is a common reaction when trying to avoid being caught and facing severe punishment. The paragraph concludes by questioning whether someone would dismember a body if they had not committed the murder.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Dismemberment

Dismemberment refers to the act of cutting a body into pieces. In the context of the video, it is a central theme as the speaker discusses a case where a man dismembered a woman's body. The act is portrayed as a horrifying and gruesome deed, which is closely tied to the overall narrative of crime and moral violence.

💡Fear

Fear is an emotional response to a perceived threat or danger. In the script, the man's fear is mentioned as a motive for his actions after the accidental death of the woman. His fear of being discovered with a large drug stash leads to the decision to dismember the body, illustrating the profound impact fear can have on a person's decision-making.

💡Moral Violence

Moral violence refers to the violation of societal norms and ethics. The video discusses the concept in relation to dismembering a body, which is considered a severe moral violation. It is mentioned that the act of dismemberment is so abhorrent that it is a taboo, highlighting the extreme nature of the crime.

💡Autopreservation

Autopreservation is the instinct of self-preservation, which drives individuals to protect themselves from harm. In the video, the speaker explains that dismembering a body could be a strategy for autopreservation, especially if the person wants to avoid being linked to a murder and facing severe punishment.

💡Taboo

A taboo is a social or cultural prohibition or restriction on a particular practice, considered to be too dangerous, forbidden, or sacred. The script uses the term to describe the act of dismembering a body, emphasizing its repugnance and the strong social aversion to such behavior.

💡Humanity

Humanity refers to the quality of being human, including attributes such as compassion, individuality, and moral principles. In the video, the speaker mentions that the face represents a person's humanity and individuality, which is why dismembering starts with removing the head to avoid the accusing gaze of the deceased.

💡Drug Stash

A drug stash refers to a hidden collection of illegal drugs. In the video, the man's large drug stash is a significant factor in his decision to dismember the body. He fears that calling the police or medical services would lead to the discovery of his stash, which could result in severe legal consequences.

💡Criminal Motivation

Criminal motivation refers to the reasons that drive an individual to commit a crime. The video discusses how the act of dismembering a body is not a casual decision but rather a result of a strong criminal motivation, such as the desire to avoid a lengthy prison sentence or to protect oneself from being discovered as the perpetrator.

💡Survival

Survival is the state or fact of continuing to live or exist, especially in spite of difficult conditions or threats. The script briefly mentions survival as a reason for dismembering a body, referencing a situation where it might be done out of necessity, such as in the case of survival in the Andes, which is a nod to a well-known historical event.

💡Guilt

Guilt is a feeling of responsibility or remorse for some offense, crime, or wrong. In the video, the man's inability to continue dismembering the body after cutting off the head suggests a sense of guilt and the psychological impact of his actions, indicating a limit to what even a desperate person can do.

💡Self-Defense

Self-defense is the act of protecting oneself from harm. Although not explicitly mentioned in the script, the concept is implied in the discussion of protecting another person. It could be a reason for dismembering a body if one believes it is necessary to protect a loved one from harm or suspicion.

Highlights

The fact that someone dismembers a body after killing it does not necessarily indicate excessive coldness.

Many people might be capable of such an act out of fear and anxiety.

The interviewee maintained that the woman's death was accidental and he panicked due to having a large drug stash.

He did not want to call the police or medical services for fear they would find his drugs.

Facing the absurd situation, he decided he had to get rid of the body but lacked the strength and will to do it quickly and effectively.

He kept the body in his bedroom for two months, dismembering it bit by bit each day.

The dismemberment process was too much for him to bear, so he stopped after cutting off the head.

The head is usually the first part dismembered as it represents the person's humanity and individuality.

Dismembering a body is a huge moral taboo, so if someone does it, there must be a very powerful motivation behind it.

If a person was really killed accidentally, you would not dismember the body due to the immense moral violence involved.

Dismembering a body is usually done for three reasons - out of necessity for food, to protect someone else, or because you committed the murder.

If you are caught with a body you did not kill, you might dismember it out of love to protect the real perpetrator.

If you killed someone and want to avoid a life sentence in prison, dismembering the body out of self-preservation is a logical choice.

Once you have killed someone and broken a major taboo, dismembering the body becomes a less daunting task.

The interviewee's account provided crucial information that confirmed the interviewer's suspicions.

The interviewer also researched whether it's possible to dismember a body without killing the person first.

The movie 'Andes' is mentioned as an example of dismembering a body out of survival necessity.

The interviewee's account reveals the complex psychological motivations behind such a violent act.

Transcripts

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de matar No indica una frialdad

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excesiva o o nos sorprendería lo que

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seríamos capaz miedo el miedo a la

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aprensión

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mira eh Porque para muchos es un acto

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asqueroso mir caso mira en un caso en el

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que en el que trabajé en el que también

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entrevisté a él él de manera fantástica

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habló conmigo con lo cual se lo

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agradezco mucho porque me dio muchísima

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información

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y él mantenía la tesis de que la mujer

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había muerto por accidente y que él se

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asustó mucho porque tenía un alijo

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grande de droga y no quiso Llamar a la

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policía o a los servicios sanitarios

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porque pensó que podrían investigar y

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buscar y encontrarle la droga Entonces

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él dijo yo enfrentado esa situación Por

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muy absurdo que parece lo que la

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conclusión a la que llegué Es que tenía

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que deshacerme del cadáver pero yo no

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tenía fuerz ni voluntad para hacerlo de

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manera rápida y eficaz entonces lo que

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hizo fue meter el cuerpo de la pobre

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chica en su dormitorio y tenerlo ahí

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durante dos meses y cada mes o sea

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durante dos meses o un mes y en fin no

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me acuerdo mucho tiempo y cada día

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cortaba un trozo verdad y yo le digo y

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le digo pero tío Esto no es muy

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complicado ya que te pones Claro Por qué

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no acabas pronto y dice Esto para mí era

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demasiado era demasiado Entonces yo le

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pregunto Y por qué paras porque esto lo

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que hacía es que cortaba un poco se

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esperaba que viniera el camión de la

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basura ponía una bols y lo tiraba para

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que no estuviera mucho tiempo en el

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contenedor no y digo por Qué paraste

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Entonces me dice mira dice es que cuando

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ya le corté la cabeza aquello ya no pude

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más no pude más y ya no pude seguir

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cortando y es verdad que luego el cadá

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el resto lo que quedaba era un tronco en

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fin un poco las extremidades verdad unos

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muñones y un poco de los muslos no y

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bueno al final la policía preguntando le

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encontró a él y él le dijo Oiga usted ha

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visto esta persona y dijo sí Dónde está

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dijo en mi casa di en su casa dice Sí

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dice Bueno lo que queda de ella no pero

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bueno lo importante es que yo le

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pregunté Oye y por qué dejaste de de

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cuartear a la mujer y me dijo No porque

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yo no pude resistirlo Pero claro esa

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información fue muy

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importante porque yo investigué Sobre el

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asunto y algo que ya sospechaba Se

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confirmó Y es que cuando tú troce El

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cadáver durante un tiempo

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e y en general incluso aunque sea poco

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tiempo lo primero que cortas es la

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cabeza por qué Porque la cabeza la cara

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es donde está la humanidad la

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individualidad de la persona entonces tú

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lo que quieres es no tener los ojos

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acusadores verdad Y tú imagínate de

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abrir las puertas de tu dormitorio

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porque vas a cortar y de ver y ver ahí a

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la pobre chica mirándote

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Perdona Mira otro lado está educada No

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claro Entonces lo primero que haces es

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quitar la cabeza Ajá Vale entonces ahí

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me mintió luego también hice una

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investigación

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eh sobre la sobre la siguiente

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pregunta es posible descuartizar a un

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cadáver sin haberlo

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matado vale Y lo que encontré en la

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investigación es

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que la gente solo descuartiza El cadáver

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por tres razones una por necesidad

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alimenticia los Andes viven llegaste a

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ver la película Bueno ahora hay una

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nueva no ve a Carlitos Páez a uno

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de supervivientes figura en mi lista en

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mi Play mi Playlist es verdad y también

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quiero ver la película porque me han

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dicho que está muy bien pero bueno yo he

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visto la antigua

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película Bueno entonces por alimentación

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para que nos entendamos en segundo lugar

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para proteger a otra persona Tú puedes

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trar un cadáver sin haberla matado tú

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sospechas que una persona a la que

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quieres puede haberlo hecho y tú por

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amor puedes hacerlo y En tercer lugar

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porque la has matado salvo el primer

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elemento el segundo y el tercero

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incluyen elementos criminales dicho de

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otra manera si esa mujer de verdad

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hubiera muerto por accidente tú no la

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troce porque la la la violencia moral es

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tan enorme es un tabú trocear un cuerpo

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es un tabú la violencia moral es tan

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enorme comprendes que si tú eres capaz

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de entre comillas armarte de valor para

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hacer eso es porque hay una motivación

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poderosísima que está detrás de un acto

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tan antinatural y violento Y es que no

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quieres pasar el resto de tu vida en la

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cárcel a ti no te cuadró que no la

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hubiera matado entonces claro es decir

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yo encontré y alguna vez he visto ese

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titular que claro que muchas veces los

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titulares te asustan un poco no yente

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Garrido fue

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lógico que desparti ara eso se acabado

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de contesto diciendo normal todo el

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mundo lo haría vamos a ver cómo no

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descorrió antes el c ver no ent yo lo

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que quiero decir es que si tú has matado

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a una persona y se sabe que tú tienes un

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vínculo con esa persona y no quieres que

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te descubran lo normal es que te que te

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deshagas del cadáver porque si no

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encuentran el cadáver Aunque la policía

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piense que tú lo has podido matar tú

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estás en una situación mucho mejor de

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Cara a una posible acusación Entonces se

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hace por lo que se llama por razones de

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la autopreservación Entonces yo lo que

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te tú me preguntas tienes que ser muy

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psicopata para descuartizar no solo te

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tiene que importar no estar 25 años en

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las cárceles infernales de

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Tailandia si tú estimas tu trasero y la

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idea de no vivir 25 años de infierno tú

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descuartizas a este hombre Claro que lo

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descuartizas Porque además has tenido el

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deseo de matarlo cómo no lo vas a

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descuartizar ya ya has roto una bar un

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tabú claro y ahora te estás jugando

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estar en el infierno comprendes Entonces

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en ese sentido es Es lógico pero claro

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en este contexto en este contexto verdad

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si Lu queda como Bueno y cómo no Tris a

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la gente si es lo

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