Warren Buffett Is Selling

Joseph Carlson After Hours
5 Aug 202425:53

Summary

TLDRThe script discusses a significant stock market sell-off, with major indices like the Dow Jones, S&P 500, and NASDAQ experiencing substantial drops, attributed to recession fears, Japan's market turmoil, and Warren Buffett's substantial sale of his Apple shares. It delves into the 'Yen carry trade' impact, Buffett's investment strategy, and the implications of Berkshire Hathaway's increased cash reserves. The speaker shares their perspective on investing through market volatility, emphasizing value investing and long-term growth.

Takeaways

  • πŸ“‰ The stock market experienced one of the worst sell-offs of the year, with major indices like the Dow Jones, S&P 500, and NASDAQ showing significant drops.
  • πŸ” A heat map of the market shows a broad-based decline, with major leaders like Nvidia, Apple, Google, and Amazon all trading down.
  • ⏳ Several factors contributed to the sell-off, including fears of an upcoming recession, Japan's market suffering its worst selloff since 1987, and the unwinding of the Yen carry trade.
  • 🍎 Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway sold half of its Apple stake, which is a significant move considering Apple's massive position in his portfolio.
  • πŸ’‘ The sale of Apple shares by Buffett is particularly noteworthy as it represents a substantial change in strategy and could indicate a shift in market sentiment.
  • πŸ“Š The Yen carry trade's unwinding is causing significant market volatility, as investors who borrowed in Yen to invest elsewhere are now closing their positions due to the Yen's surge.
  • 🌐 The US job market's weakness has global implications, affecting markets like Japan, which had its worst day since 1987, falling 12.4% in a single day.
  • πŸ“ˆ Despite the sell-off, the speaker remains optimistic about certain stocks, like Booking Holdings, which they believe are trading at a low valuation with strong fundamentals.
  • πŸ’Ό Warren Buffett's investment philosophy is highlighted, emphasizing buying great companies at low valuations and selling when they become expensive, rather than following market trends.
  • πŸ’‘ The speaker's own investment strategy is revealed, focusing on buying quality companies at dislocated prices and holding them long-term, regardless of short-term market fluctuations.
  • 🚫 The importance of avoiding companies with deteriorating fundamentals is stressed, as these situations can lead to significant and prolonged stock price declines.

Q & A

  • What was the main topic discussed in the video script?

    -The main topic discussed in the video script was the significant stock market sell-off, its causes, and the implications of Warren Buffett selling half of his Apple stake.

  • What were the percentage drops in the Dow Jones, S&P 500, and NASDAQ during the sell-off mentioned in the script?

    -The Dow Jones was down 2.2%, the S&P 500 was down 2.54%, and the NASDAQ (referred to as QQQ) was down 2.6% during the sell-off.

  • What is the Yen carry trade and how did it impact the market according to the script?

    -The Yen carry trade is a strategy where investors borrow money in Japan, where interest rates are low, and invest it in countries with higher interest rates to earn the difference. The script mentions that a surge in the Yen and market volatility have forced many to unwind this trade, contributing to the market sell-off.

  • How much of his Apple stake did Warren Buffett sell according to the script?

    -Warren Buffett sold half of his Apple stake, which was a significant portion of his public portfolio.

  • What was Warren Buffett's cash balance after selling half of his Apple stake?

    -After selling half of his Apple stake, Warren Buffett's cash balance increased to $278 billion.

  • What are some of the reasons the script suggests for Warren Buffett selling his Apple shares?

    -The script suggests reasons such as Apple's high valuation with slower growth, increasing regulatory challenges, and the potential for multiple compression due to its high PE ratio.

  • What does the script imply about the relationship between Berkshire Hathaway's size and its cash holdings?

    -The script implies that as Berkshire Hathaway grows in size, its cash holdings also increase proportionally, which is consistent with the company's history.

  • What is the script's perspective on the recent market sell-off in relation to the overall performance of the year 2024?

    -The script suggests that the sell-off was a significant event after a stable and smooth 2024, reminding people of frequent sell-offs in the past and serving as the first major market downturn of the year.

  • What is the script's view on the potential impact of a recession on the stock market?

    -The script indicates that fears of a recession, triggered by weaker-than-expected job reports, can cause significant market sell-offs, as job market weakness is often seen as an indicator of an economic downturn.

  • What investment strategy does the script advocate for in response to market volatility?

    -The script advocates for an investment strategy that focuses on buying high-quality companies at dislocated prices and holding them long-term, allowing for compounding growth, rather than trying to predict or time market events.

  • What companies does the script mention as examples of those that the speaker continues to hold or buy during the market chaos?

    -The script mentions companies such as Booking Holdings, Costco, Texas Roadhouse, S&P Global, MasterCard, Moody's, Microsoft, and Apple as examples of the speaker's continued holdings or recent buys.

Outlines

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πŸ“‰ Stock Market Tumult: Worst Sell-Off of the Year

The video script opens with a discussion of a significant stock market downturn, highlighting the Dow Jones, S&P 500, and NASDAQ's substantial drops. The heat map indicates a market-wide negative performance, with major companies like Nvidia, Apple, Google, and Amazon experiencing notable declines. Factors contributing to the sell-off include recession fears, Japan's market crash since 1987, the unwinding of the Yen carry trade, and Warren Buffett's substantial sale of his Apple shares, increasing Berkshire Hathaway's cash reserves to a historic high. The video promises an exploration of these factors, Buffett's strategy, and the speaker's own investment moves amidst market chaos.

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🌐 Global Market Impacts and the Yen Carry Trade

This paragraph delves into the repercussions of the US job market's weakness on global markets, particularly Japan's Nikkei index, which suffered its worst day since 1987. The Yen carry trade is explained as a significant factor in the market's volatility, with investors borrowing in Japan and investing elsewhere to exploit the interest rate differential. However, recent yen appreciation has led to a forced unwinding of these positions, causing market instability. The paragraph also discusses the risks of currency speculation and the impact of hedging costs on the market, leading to a vicious cycle of increased yen value and trade unwinding.

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🍎 Warren Buffett's Strategic Apple Unwinding

The speaker provides an in-depth analysis of Warren Buffett's decision to sell half of his Apple shares, a move that has reduced Apple's weight in Berkshire Hathaway's portfolio from 40.8% to approximately 20%. The sale is contextualized by examining Apple's high valuation, regulatory challenges, and potential fallout from the DOJ's lawsuit against Google. The impact of Buffett's actions on market sentiment and the potential 'keyman risk' he poses to Apple are also discussed, alongside the speaker's own reasons for trimming their Apple position previously.

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πŸ“ˆ Buffett's Investment Philosophy and Berkshire's Cash Holdings

This section examines Warren Buffett's investment philosophy, focusing on his preference for value and his adeptness at selling at the right time. It contrasts Buffett's successful Apple investment with Berkshire Hathaway's past missteps, such as the early sale of Costco. The speaker speculates on Buffett's future actions with the significant cash reserves now held by Berkshire, suggesting that he will wait for market distress to buy back in. The video also addresses the misconception that Berkshire's record cash holdings are unusual, explaining that the company's cash balance naturally grows with its overall size.

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πŸ›  Buffett's Market Behavior and Investor Strategy

The speaker outlines Warren Buffett's contrarian investment approach, emphasizing buying during market distress and selling during periods of strength. It discusses Buffett's recent net selling activity, which contrasts with his historical net buying pattern, and suggests that Buffett is selling due to high market valuations rather than anticipating market events. The video encourages viewers to invest like Buffett by focusing on value and long-term holding, mentioning the speaker's own recent purchases of Booking Holdings despite market turmoil.

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πŸ† Investing Through Market Volatility

In the final paragraph, the speaker reflects on the importance of a robust investment strategy that can weather market volatility, including recessions. They express confidence in their portfolio's resilience, highlighting the growth of their holdings in earnings and free cash flow. The speaker also discusses the benefits of buying back shares and paying dividends during downturns, using Intel's decline as an example of a situation to avoid. The video concludes by urging viewers to reassess their investment strategies if recent market events have caused them distress.

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Keywords

πŸ’‘Stock Market Sell-off

A stock market sell-off refers to a rapid decline in stock prices, often across a broad market segment. In the video, the script mentions a significant sell-off with indices like the Dow Jones, S&P 500, and NASDAQ experiencing substantial drops, indicating a widespread concern among investors.

πŸ’‘Dow Jones

The Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) is a stock market index that measures the stock performance of 30 large companies listed on stock exchanges in the United States. In the script, the Dow Jones is cited as being down by 2.2%, reflecting the severity of the market sell-off discussed.

πŸ’‘S&P 500

The S&P 500 Index is a stock market index of 500 leading companies listed on stock exchanges in the U.S. and is considered a key indicator of the overall U.S. stock market. The script notes that the S&P 500 is down by 2.54%, emphasizing the broad impact of the sell-off.

πŸ’‘NASDAQ

The NASDAQ, often stylized as QQQ, is a major stock exchange for technology and biotechnology companies, known for its tech-heavy index. The script mentions the NASDAQ down by 2.6%, highlighting the tech sector's vulnerability during the market downturn.

πŸ’‘Recession

A recession is a period of negative economic growth that lasts for at least two consecutive quarters, indicating a significant slowdown in economic activity. The script suggests that fears of an upcoming recession are a primary concern for investors, contributing to the market sell-off.

πŸ’‘Yen Carry Trade

The Yen carry trade is a strategy where investors borrow Japanese Yen at low-interest rates to invest in higher-yielding assets abroad. The script discusses the unwinding of this trade due to a surge in the Yen's value, causing significant market volatility.

πŸ’‘Warren Buffett

Warren Buffett is a renowned investor and the chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, known for his value investing philosophy. The script highlights news of Buffett selling half of his Apple stake, which is a major event affecting investor sentiment and the market.

πŸ’‘Berkshire Hathaway

Berkshire Hathaway is a multinational conglomerate holding company led by Warren Buffett, known for its focus on long-term investments in a diverse range of companies. The script mentions Berkshire's cash balance increasing to $278 billion after Buffett's sell-off, indicating a strategic move.

πŸ’‘Apple Stake

In the context of the script, 'Apple stake' refers to the significant portion of Apple Inc. shares owned by Berkshire Hathaway. The sale of half of this stake by Buffett is a key point in the video, signaling a potential shift in market strategy.

πŸ’‘Value Investing

Value investing is an investment strategy that involves buying stocks that appear to be trading for less than their intrinsic value. The script discusses Buffett's value investing approach, suggesting that his decision to sell Apple shares may be due to a perceived overvaluation.

πŸ’‘Booking Holdings

Booking Holdings is a company that operates booking and reservation websites for travel and lodging. The script mentions the speaker buying Booking Holdings during the market chaos, illustrating a strategy of buying quality companies at dislocated prices.

Highlights

The Dow Jones, S&P 500, and NASDAQ experienced significant sell-offs, with drops of 2.2%, 2.54%, and 2.6% respectively.

The heat map indicates a broad market decline with major leaders like Nvidia, Apple, Google, and Amazon trading down significantly.

Concerns of an upcoming recession, influenced by Baron, are identified as the primary concern for investors.

Japan's Nikkei suffered its worst sell-off since 1987, dropping 12.4% in a day.

The Yen carry trade unwinding is impacting the market, with investors closing out positions as the Yen surges.

Warren Buffett sold half of his Apple stake, which accounted for over $150 billion and represented 50% of his public portfolio.

Buffett's cash balance increased to $278 billion, marking Berkshire Hathaway's highest cash holding ever.

Discussion on why Warren Buffett might be raising cash by selling Apple and Bank of America positions.

Investor reactions to market chaos, including the speaker's own portfolio adjustments and buying strategies.

The impact of a weak US jobs report on global markets, suggesting the potential start of a recession.

Analysis of the Yen carry trade, its significance, and the current market conditions leading to its unwinding.

Buffett's historical investment in Apple, his 5x return, and the valuation when he initially bought the stock.

Reasons for trimming Apple positions, including high valuation, slow growth, and regulatory challenges.

Buffett's investment philosophy of buying low and selling high, and its application to his Apple sale.

Berkshire Hathaway's record cash holdings in context with the company's growth, and Buffett's strategy with cash.

The speaker's investment approach during market sell-offs, focusing on buying quality companies at dislocated prices.

The importance of a long-term investment strategy that is resilient to market fluctuations and recessions.

The speaker's current buying activities, including a new position in Booking Holdings and its attractive valuation.

The portfolio's performance year-to-date, demonstrating resilience despite market downturns.

The final advice on investment strategy, emphasizing preparedness for market volatility and a focus on fundamentals.

Transcripts

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welcome back everyone we have an

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exciting day today we've had one of the

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worst stock market sell-offs this year

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right now the Dow Jones is down Min -

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2.2% the S&P 500 is down

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2.54% and the QQQ the NASDAQ is down

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2.6% now these are Big Draw downs and

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it's not even the worst of today it was

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worse just a couple hours ago so we're

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having a bit of a comeback but it's

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still a really bad day if we look at the

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map overall the heat map here shows

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across the board we're deeply in the red

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we have a lot of the big leaders like

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Nvidia trading down 6% Apple down 4% we

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have Google down 2% Amazon down 3% and

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so on you look anywhere in the market

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and most likely it's deeply in the red

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and what is causing the sell-off today

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well there's a couple different factors

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there's talks of an upcoming recession

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that's what Baron says is the primary

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concern for investors today we also have

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Japan's Market the Nick a is suffering

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the worst selloff since 1987 and then we

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have the Y Cary Trade unwinding now if

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you're not familiar with the Yen carry

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trade that makes you normal most people

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aren't we'll be discussing what it is

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and how it's impacting the market and

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then finally perhaps the biggest news

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and maybe the most rattling for the

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markets is the news that came Sunday

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that Warren Buffett sold half his Apple

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steak half his Apple steak is massive

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this wasn't a normal 5 to 10% position

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this was 50% of his public portfolio he

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had well over $150 billion of apple and

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he sold half the stake it's bumped up

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his cash balance to currently $278

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billion this is the most cash that

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Burkshire has ever had why did Warren

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Buffett decide to dump half his Apple

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position why is he raising so much cash

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why did Burkshire recently just sell a

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lot of their Bank of America position

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they're doing a lot of sells and we're

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going to get to the bottom of it and

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then of course we're going to be looking

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at my portfolio what I'm currently

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buying during this Market chaos and much

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more so we have a lot to get into let's

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go ahead and jump in now we can first

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start off by talking about the selloff

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today after a stable 2024 a pretty

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smooth sailing 2024 we finally got our

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first taste of a big sell-off it

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reminded us way back of the co era

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remember then when we'd have sell-offs

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like this quite frequently well this

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gave us a little bit of that memory and

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for a lot of people that's not a fun

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experience seeing your stocks dive 10

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15% in a single day is not fun seeing

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the major indices down 4% in a day is

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really not fun that's a lot of money if

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you've bu built up your Investments over

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a long period of time in many cases it

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shows us that Investments take the

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staircase up and the elevator down when

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the stock market drops it drops very

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quickly and quick drops in the market

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cause Panic now behind this drop there's

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a lot of different things there's a lot

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of different factors the main one that

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Barons says the biggest factor is

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recession fairs this was caused by fears

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that the US is at risk of recession

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after Friday's week job reports

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triggered Mayhem across Global markets

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so there we have it we have a jobs

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report come out that's a little bit

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weaker than expected we have the FED

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that has not lowered interest rates and

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now there's many people speculating that

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the weak jobs is the start of a

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recession jobs are a lagging indicator

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they show us when recession has already

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started by the job market falling apart

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once a lot of people lose their jobs

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that is the single biggest indicator

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that we're now in a recession so seeing

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any indication of weakness in the job

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market scares investors now this weak

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job report in the US also had an impact

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on Japan Japan's Nick which is like

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their index their S&P 500 had its worst

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day since 1987 falling

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12.4% so we've fallen so far somewhere

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around 2 to 4% imagine the market

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falling 12.4% in a single day that's

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what just happened in Japan over the

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past month it's down over

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25% you're seeing a decline in a quarter

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of your wealth a quarter of your net

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worth

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in just a month this is an incredible

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sell-off in Japan this is caused for two

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primary reasons one of them is the US

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job market being disappointing we don't

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live in an isolated insular environment

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where what goes on in the US doesn't

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impact the rest of the world this is

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global markets what happens in the US

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impacts the rest of the world so if the

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us is going into a recession the biggest

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most powerful GDP country in the world

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is headed into a recession it's going to

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impact the rest of the world in a

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negative manner and in many cases worse

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than the impact on the US so this is

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having a secondary impact on Japan and

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the biggest problem is Japan also has

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another Factor the Yen surged and this

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is unwinding a trade called the Yen

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carry trade the Yen carry trade is

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pretty simple interest rates are really

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low in places like Japan and they're

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really high in places like Mexico so

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investors are borrowing money from Japan

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and investing it in places like Mexico

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and earning the difference it is an

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Arbitrage play this trade depends on

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borrowing currencies remaining cheap and

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Market volatility remaining low both of

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those factors have turned against

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investors in recent weeks as the Yen has

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surged forcing them to close out of

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their positions so all these investors

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that have been doing this trade

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borrowing money from Japan in this low

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interest rate low volatility environment

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and investing in places like Mexico are

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finding that this trade is collapsing

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and you're seeing them head for the

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exits hedge funds and other speculative

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investors were holding more than 180,000

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contracts betting on weaker Yen on a net

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basis worth more than $14 billion by

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last week those positions have been cut

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to around 6 billion so this trade is

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halfway over so many people are heading

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for the exits and the data shows that

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it's not done yet we're going to see

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further unwinding of the Y carry trade

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now the big risk for Traders when

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they're doing these type of Investments

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where they're betting one currency

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against another and earning the

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difference between the two of course is

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currency risk which which is volatility

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and changes in the value of currency or

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interest rates that risk is immense when

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you're using a lot of options a lot of

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Leverage now in most cases Traders know

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about these risks and so they buy

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insurance they buy hedging for it but in

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this case this trade has been so popular

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that the price of hedging has become

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unaffordable so many of them just

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decided you know what I'm going to go

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without any type of hedging I'll go

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without any type of insurance with so

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many Traders not buying any insurance

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for the past couple of years and now

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there's a lot of volatility they're all

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rushing to do so since they're all

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rushing to hedge now it's creating a lot

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of demand for the Yen increasing the

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price and value of the Yen this creates

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a vicious circle as more and more of

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them are rushing to hedge their position

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it increases the value of the Yen as the

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Yen value increases more of them are

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closed out of their positions which

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further increases the value of the Yen

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so you're seeing this circle of people

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being closed out of this trade and the

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Yen increasing in value we don't know

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how long this is going to take to

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completely unwind but it is in the

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process of doing so so the Japanese

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Market's currently a mess right now down

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25% and 12% in a single day you have

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this vicious cycle unwinding with these

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leverage trades currently unwinding and

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that's going to last some more time and

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then you layer upon that the news that

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the US has weak economic data all of

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that is causing a lot of trouble in

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Japan and some trouble in the US but

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then of course I think the biggest news

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out of all of this perhaps the biggest

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symbolically

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is Buffett Buffett the Oracle of Omaha

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selling half of his Apple position he's

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talked about this company as being the

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greatest company in the world a pillar

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of birkshire like it's one of the third

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pillars of the company and here he is

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chopping away at half his shares we had

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the news come Sunday the Omaha base

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conglomerate disclosed in its earnings

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filing that its holding of the iPhone

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maker was valued at $ 84.2 billion in

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the second quarter suggesting that the

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Oracle of Omaha offloaded a little more

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than 49% of the tech stake even after

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selling Apple it Remains the largest

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stake by far for Berkshire so he sold

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roughly half his Apple position but

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Apple Still Remains the largest holding

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in Berkshire by far now to put this in

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perspective with the rest of his public

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portfolio this is what it looks like the

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second largest holding is Bank of

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America which he's also been selling and

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that was 12% of the portfolio and then

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you had Apple at

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40.8% now that is before this news so he

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sold roughly half of this now Apple

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makes up roughly 20% of the public

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portfolio so it's still the biggest

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position by about double but it is much

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smaller than it was before before it was

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41% now it's around 20% he is selling

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down Apple now there's a lot of

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takeaways from this news anytime Buffett

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sells it's used for clicks and shock

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value but I want to break down what this

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cell actually means and the reason that

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Buffett's doing it I want to put this

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cell into context 4 months ago I made a

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video of why I was trimming my Apple

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position I was selling down the position

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and I listed off the reasons why on the

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Whiteboard the first one and this video

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is available you can look it up right

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now but the first one that I listed is

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Apple trades at a relatively High

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valuation of a 274 PE ratio and

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expectations of growth of around 7 to

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10% earnings per share growth in summary

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apple is a expensive company trading at

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a high multiple that's now growing

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slowly now the second reason I listed

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off is Apple's being piled on by

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Regulators the EU is finding at $2

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billion they're implementing new

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regulations forcing Apple to open up

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their App Store this is a weakening of

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Apple's mode the more and more

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Regulators tear down the apple ecosystem

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the weaker the moat becomes now if we go

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throughout this video I list off more

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and more reasons of why I was triming my

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Apple position another one was the doj

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lawsuit against Google represents a

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threat against Apple Google pays Apple a

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lot of money to be defaulted if the doj

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ends that relationship that would be an

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immediate hit to Apple's bottom line so

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we have the slow growth the high

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valuation the challenges from constant

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regulation and the lawsuit against

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Google which could impact apple and then

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finally I list the final reason I was

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trimming Apple let's go ahead and just

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play a clip from this video from four

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months ago Warren Buffett is a massive

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shareholder of Apple he's really

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championed the company and I believe

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that he does represent a little bit of

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keyman risk in the story of Apple for

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example last quarter Burkshire sold 1%

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of its Apple stake and because Burkshire

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sold 1% you saw story after story after

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a story of Buffett selling Apple trying

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to make investors fearful now the fact

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that he only sold 1% wasn't great it

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wasn't positive news he wasn't buying

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more Apple um but it wasn't the worst

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possible news if we got news that

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Buffett trimmed his stake by 5 or

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10% what would that do to the stock how

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would investors react to that type news

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this analyst argues that Buffett's

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already up a ton on his stake in apple

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which is true he was buying the company

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in 2016 so he's made like five times as

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money on Apple already it represents 50%

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of his Equity portfolio and what would

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happen if Buffett started to sell which

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he could do because the valuation

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potential issues with it Buffett could

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start to trim the holding a little bit

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more he argues that the likely result if

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Burkshire sells more shares would be

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retail investors rushing for the exit

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and Apple shares getting slaughtered so

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I had a list of concerns and the reasons

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why I was trimming my Apple position

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part of that being that Warren Buffett

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may sell the stock and we see a bit of a

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trade down if he does it's not

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encouraging when one of the best

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investors in the world is selling out of

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his stake of a company and in this case

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he didn't just sell five or 10% he sold

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50% and I believe he's going to continue

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selling I don't think Buffett's done and

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the reason why is simple apple is a

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stock that Warren Buffett bought back in

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2016 if we look at the share price we go

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way back to 2016

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we have it right here apple is around

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$23 per share 23 24 this is when Buffett

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was really buying the company at the

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time Apple traded at a 164 PE ratio at

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the time Apple was a $600 billion market

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cap company it grew dramatically from

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$20 per share now up to $200 per share

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while paying dividends the entire time

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Buffett has made 5x's money on this

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Investments it'll go down as one of the

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best tech Investments from any investor

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ever in history it is one of the most

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significant best investments ever done

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in Tech and Buffett did that with a huge

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chunk of his portfolio he poured $35

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billion into apple and then 5x that

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invested Capital now again when he was

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buying Apple the market cap was around

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$500 to $600 billion now it's $ 3.34

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trillion the PE ratio of the company was

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around 16 to around 17 depending on the

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day he bought now the PE Ratio is 30 the

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earnings per share of the company have

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gone up dramatically but the valuation

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of apple has doubled since Buffett

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bought the position and Buffett is a

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value investor he likes getting good

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value for what he's buying he likes it

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when he buys a company cheap and the

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multiples go up and it becomes more

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expensive when Buffett was buying apple

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back in 2016 many people talked about

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the company being a weak company it was

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just a hardware company they didn't

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really have any significant software

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built out but Apple soon became a

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massive software company I followed

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along with this Buy in 2018 and Apple

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has gone up three times since when I

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initially purchased it this was one of

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the best buys to follow Buffett into but

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Buffett's not only good at buying he's

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also really really good at selling many

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investors sell companies at the wrong

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time you have investors like Terry Smith

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that sold Estee Lauder too late that

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sold PayPal too late that sold Amazon

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too early and into it too early he has

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trouble with his cells Buffett on the

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other hand is Pretty good overall with

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cells he likes to buy companies cheap

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and sell them expensive now he's not

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perfect there's some cases where Buffett

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has sold at the wrong time one company

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that Burkshire sold at the wrong time

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was Costco Burkshire sold Costco in

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around 2020 so right around here

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Burkshire hathway sold Costco and that

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was a really bad time to sell Costco

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Costco's up over double the returns of

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Berkshire haway since they sold the

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position

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so Costco is an example of Buffett

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getting the cell wrong this is a company

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he should have held on to in hindsight

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in the case of Apple only time will tell

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if this is another Costco that he should

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have held on to or another great sell

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from Buffett where he sold it at a good

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time given the risk and reward if I was

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to guess right now I believe this is

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going to be a good sell and I say that

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holding a little bit of Apple myself the

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reason being is that it's simply

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undeniable that apple is trading at a

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higher valuation with lower growth the

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combination of being higher valued with

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lower growth means that there's far more

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downside for Apple than upside the

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chance of multiple compression is far

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greater than the chance of multiple

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expansion Buffett likes to find

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companies that have lots of catalysts

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earnings growth free cashlo growth and

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low valuations he likes to get a lot for

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what he's paying for with Apple at $210

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per share it's difficult to see that

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there's going to be any type of multiple

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expansion how are multiples going to

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expand it already trades at a 304 PE

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ratio is it going to go to a 40 or a 50

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it might but you can't really count on

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that it's more than likely going to go

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down a little bit to a 25 or

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23 as the growth slows the PE Ratio

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should follow and we seen this happen

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with other highquality companies in the

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past ones like Estee Lauder or Nike

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those companies were considered

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compounding machines but when they get

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too expensive the multiples can compress

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now no matter what metric you look at if

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you compare the price of Apple today the

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valuation of the company compared to

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when he was buying it in 2016 he was

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getting much better value in 2016 and I

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think that Apple's unlikely to have the

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same returns it's had over the past 10

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years now of course with Buffett selling

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half of his Apple position this raises

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another question what is he going to do

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with all this money half his Apple

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position was $80 billion this brought

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the total cash balance of Berkshire to

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an incredible

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$277 billion this is the most money that

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Berkshire has ever held the most cash

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they've ever had this is over A4

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trillion dollar in cash it's really an

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incredible amount of money now of course

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anytime Buffett does some big sells and

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he has a lot of cash that raises some

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eyebrows why is Buffett the best

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investor in the world holding so much

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cash something that's helpful to do is

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anytime you look at the amount of cash

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that Burkshire has you have to put that

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in context with how big Burkshire is it

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makes sense for Berkshire to hold more

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cash as the company itself becomes

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bigger if we plot out the tangible Book

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value of Burkshire against the cash

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balance they currently hold it paints a

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far clearer picture you can see that

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Burkshire is continually gaining in the

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amount of cash they hold as the company

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overall grows the Blue Line the top one

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is a tangible Book value and Burkshire

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grows this year-over-year quite

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consistently you can see the tangible

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Book value just continuing to go up now

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you also see the cash balance going up

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with the tangible Book value and they go

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up almost in parallel there is some

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zigging and zagging there's some times

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where they do some buys and the cash

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balance will go down in proportion of

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the book value but overall you see

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consistency here as Burkshire grows as a

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company they also grow their cash

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balance and this is why the headline the

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burkers is holding a record amount of

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cash is a bit misleading they're always

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holding a record amount of cash in 2022

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they're holding a record amount of cash

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in 2018 they're holding a record amount

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of cash the same thing with 2016 and

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2014 and 2008 and 2005 as a company

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grows over overall they grow the amount

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of cash they hold and this is consistent

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with their history so the headlines of

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the record cash that Burkshire holds is

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a little bit less scary when you put it

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in context the thing that concerns me

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more than the record cache they hold

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something that I actually look at that

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does raise some eyebrows is this chart

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right here berkshire's net purchases or

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sales over time this goes back to 2017

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and it shows how much they bought or

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sold every single quarter the red of

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course is when Berkshire is selling the

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green is when they're buying and this

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Nets out their sales and buys what you

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can see is that over time from 2017 to

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2022 birkshire was a buyer they're

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buying shares of companies in net over

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those three or four years then you get

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to December of 2022 and all of a sudden

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they start selling from December of 2022

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to June of 2024 they are a net seller

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every single quarter that's seven

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quarters of consecutive net selling from

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Berkshire why is Buffett selling right

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now quarter over quarter without doing

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any buys well Buffett himself will tell

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you that he does not sell based on

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anticipation of Market events so he's

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not selling because of what's going on

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in Japan he's not selling because he's

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predicting a recession he's not selling

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because of the jobs report that's not

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the reason that Buffett sells the reason

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that he sells is multiples have gone up

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growth has slown and he does not see

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good value with his companies he sees

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better values just holding it in

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treasuries that's the reason that he's

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cashing out of these positions Buffett

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will be a buyer when free cash all

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yields go up when when PE ratios go down

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that's when he'll start to buy stocks

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again he is a value investor he buys low

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he sells High stocks right now are

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rather expensive even with today's scary

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sell-off of 2 to 3% both the S&P 500 and

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the QQQ are in the green by around 10%

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the stock market's doing great

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valuations are high most people have

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been greedy over the past year pushing

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prices up and up Buffett does not follow

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the trends he doesn't follow the herd as

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people are buying the market pushing

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prices up and up he sells out when

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everyone finally capitulates and starts

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to sell out of their positions when they

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start to give up on great companies that

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are earning money Buffett will be a

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buyer so if you want to invest like

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Buffett you do not play the game of

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predicting recessions or economic events

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you buy and sell based off of value he

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bought Apple during a time period where

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it was cheap value he's now selling it

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during a time period where it's

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expensive and everyone else wants to buy

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it he buys during times of distress when

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people are scared and anxious selling

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out of their positions he sells into

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strength when people are happy when

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they're making money when valuations are

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pushed up to extremes Buffett doesn't

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follow Trends he doesn't just push

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prices up higher and higher he buys

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great companies at low valuations and

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holds them long term he's held Apple

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since 2016 and this sell of Apple which

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I believe will continue I think will be

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one of the best trades ever done in

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history and I think it's going to be one

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of Buffett's best trades that he's ever

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done with this track record the size of

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this trade the profitability of it the

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timing of buying it when nobody else

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wanted it and selling it during a time

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where there's so much talk of AI and

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everyone wants to buy Apple is just

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incredible and it shows how good he is

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of an investor he's had other misses

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he's had smaller Bets with different

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companies that he's missed on but those

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pale in comparison to the size and scale

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of this apple investment it really is

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remarkable if we want to invest like

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buffit we want to buy great companies

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when they come at discounted prices when

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for some reason the market doesn't like

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these companies and they're at low

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valuations in my portfolio that's the

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goal it's to buy high quality companies

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at dislocated prices and hold them

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longterm and allow them to compound now

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today I have been doing a series of buys

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I have been buying booking holding

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booking holding is a new position to the

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portfolio I'm just buying into it and

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I've increased my stake dramatically

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over the past month as it sold down

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booking is selling down because of these

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General fairs of the market it's going

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down a lot even though the fundamentals

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are incredible it trades at a low

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valuation an 184d PE ratio a 6% free

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cash flow yield these are really healthy

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numbers and the company has incredible

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fundamentals their gross bookings is at

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an all-time high growing year-over-year

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room Knight sold continues to go up

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quarter over quarter even the most

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recent quarter this year there's more

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room nights sold than last year the

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company is super high margin super

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profitable look at the free cash flow

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growth over time on a free cash flow per

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share basis they grew by 25%

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year-over-year

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this is faster than Visa or Mastercard

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or S&P Global or many other companies I

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hold so I have a company that's growing

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incredibly fast trading at a low

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valuation and of course if there is any

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trouble with the company if it continues

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to sell down because of fars of an

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upcoming recession they'll just continue

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to buy back their shares which is

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something they've done aggressively over

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the past 10 years since 2014 the shares

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have gone from 53 million down to 36

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Million last year they bought back 7% of

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their total Market so this company is a

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buyback machine that pays a dividend at

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the same time now if we go into

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recession booking holding May trade down

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but because of the high margins of this

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business they'll be fine they'll be able

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to buy back their shares aggressively

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even in the case of a recession so I

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don't fear going into recession even

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with a travel company some people think

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that's crazy but recessions only last

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typically for a year one year of holding

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a company you might have a down year and

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in this case I see a great future and

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great current value for the company so

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that's what I've Curr ly been buying but

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I also have been holding all of my

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companies I hold my Costco shares I hold

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my Texas Roadhouse shares I still hold

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all of my S&P Global MasterCard into and

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Moody's Microsoft and Apple and all of

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these companies I'm not concerned about

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a potential recession it just doesn't

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worry me all of these companies will be

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able to pull through in the story fund

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it's giv back some of its gains this

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year but still year-to date it's up

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12.7% which beats out the S&P 500 and

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the QQQ we're still up $48,000 in this

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portfolio

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even after Amazon has been hammered

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today down 5 or 6% so even though these

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companies are trading down a little bit

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it doesn't concern me at all

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intrinsically they're growing day by day

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quarter over quarter Amazon's going to

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be worth a lot more in the next three

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years than they are today overall what

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I'm looking for are companies that will

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steadily grow their cash flows quarter

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over quarter year-over-year I like

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companies that have earnings growth and

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free cash flow per share growth and even

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if the price comes down as long as

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they're growing in their cash flows and

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earnings I feel fine about it it just

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means that it's a temporary dip it means

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that eventually it'll recover if not

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they can do BuyBacks and dividends and

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grow their earnings even faster when the

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fundamentals are going up and the price

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is going down that is the best situation

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to be a buyer that's the best situation

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to be an investor the issues you should

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avoid as an investor are when the

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fundamentals go down when the earnings

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and cash flows go down that's a

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situation like Intel Intel's having

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fundamental damage to the company it's

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down over 50% this year it's not coming

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back quickly this is the situation I try

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to avoid is when the actual fundamentals

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of the company are tanking I don't have

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any company in my portfolio where that's

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the case every single position I hold is

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growing in its free cash flow growing in

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its earnings per share so if prices come

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down that's fine with me I'm going to be

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a buyer so as far as I'm concerned

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nothing changes with news like this even

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if we go into recession that should be

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something that's already planned in

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terms of your investment strategy and if

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this does cause a lot of grief if you're

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genuinely concerned about the past

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couple of days then I think that may be

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a a message that you need to rethink

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your investment strategy and maybe

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rethink your portfolio because you

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should be well prepared for these type

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of instances It's Not Unusual at all for

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stocks to drop dramatically in a couple

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of days and you should be prepared for

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that that's all for this episode see you

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in the next one

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