Work culture expert imagines your post-pandemic professional life
Summary
TLDRThe discussion centers on the seismic shifts in work culture due to the COVID-19 pandemic, with a focus on the future of remote work and its impact on collaboration, productivity, and recruitment. Andrew Al, co-founder and president of Intercept, emphasizes the importance of a strong work culture and the need for businesses to adapt to a hybrid model, balancing remote and in-office work to maintain team harmony and leverage technology for seamless collaboration. The conversation also touches on the challenges of creating an inclusive work environment and the potential for a more flexible and empathetic workplace.
Takeaways
- π The COVID-19 pandemic has accelerated a massive shift to remote work, which is likely to continue in some form.
- π οΈ Work culture and operations have been rethought to adapt to new ways of engaging customers and motivating teams.
- π‘ Innovation is no longer just about leading the industry but has become a necessity for businesses to survive.
- π Assumptions about remote work have been challenged, proving that productivity and collaboration can occur outside a traditional office setting.
- π Businesses are now in a 'talent race' to retain top talent, as remote work has made job-switching easier.
- π€ The emphasis on culture is heightened to give employees a reason to engage beyond financial incentives.
- π« Technology is a crucial tool for seamless collaboration, requiring curiosity and the right tools to be effective.
- π Creating a strong work culture in a remote setting involves identifying and activating the organization's values through new rituals and habits.
- π For new employees, navigating a remote work environment requires balancing professional presence with the flexibility of virtual interactions.
- π°οΈ The traditional 9-to-5 work schedule has been disrupted, with a shift towards a hybrid model that includes both in-office and remote work.
- π The future of work is expected to be more global, with teams collaborating across different time zones, requiring effective technology and infrastructure.
- π The risk of creating an 'us versus them' dynamic within a company due to hybrid work models needs to be managed by fostering equality and inclusiveness.
- π± The opportunity for more flexible and empathetic work environments has emerged, but it requires conscious decisions and governance from organizations.
- π The successful office of the future will be one that harmonizes remote and in-office teams effectively, creating a level playing field for all employees.
Q & A
How has the onset of the pandemic affected the world of work?
-The pandemic has sparked a huge transition with many people now working from home, and it has led to a seismic transformation in work culture that may continue in the months and years ahead.
What does Andrew Al believe has changed most about work due to COVID?
-Andrew Al suggests that we've had to rethink work, including how we engage customers, deliver experiences, motivate team members, and innovate, as innovation has become a requirement for doing business.
What assumptions about remote work did the pandemic challenge?
-The pandemic challenged assumptions about remote work, particularly the trust in employees' productivity, collaboration, and compliance when working from home.
What is the new reality of work from home according to Andrew Al?
-The new reality of work from home is likely to continue in some form, affecting aspects such as collaboration, productivity, recruitment, and development within organizations.
What does Andrew Al think is the key to retaining top talent in a remote work environment?
-Andrew Al believes that creating a strong work culture and providing reasons for people to show up to work beyond just a paycheck is key to retaining top talent in a remote work environment.
How does Andrew Al view the role of technology in the future of work?
-Andrew Al sees technology as a requirement rather than a differentiator, emphasizing the need for businesses to use the right tools for seamless collaboration.
What challenges does creating a work culture present when people are not working face-to-face?
-Creating a work culture without face-to-face interaction involves identifying the culture and finding ways to activate it, such as through new rituals and habits that foster a sense of community and learning.
How can new employees navigate their career trajectory in a remote work environment?
-New employees can navigate their career trajectory by learning to 'walk the virtual floor,' engaging in quick chats, instant messages, and calls, and balancing professional and personal life effectively.
What does Andrew Al predict for the future framework of a workweek?
-Andrew Al predicts a hybrid future of work, with people working from home and in the office, and an emphasis on creating harmony and team flow across different working environments.
What risks does a hybrid working model pose in terms of creating an 'us versus them' within a company?
-A hybrid working model risks creating an 'us versus them' mentality if remote and in-office workers do not feel they are on an equal playing field, which requires managers to create a level playing field.
How does Andrew Al view the role of governance in empowering flexibility in the workplace?
-Andrew Al believes that having the right governance and flex policies from organizations is critical in empowering employees to take advantage of the flexibility offered by the new work environment.
What does Andrew Al envision for the successful office of the future?
-The successful office of the future, according to Andrew Al, is one that can harmonize remote and in-office teams effectively, creating a level playing field and leveraging the opportunities presented by the new work environment.
Outlines
π‘ The New Work Reality: Transitioning to Remote Work
The pandemic has catalyzed a significant shift towards remote work, with many questioning the necessity of returning to traditional office settings. Andrew Al, co-founder and president of Intercept, discusses the seismic changes in work culture, emphasizing the need to rethink engagement, customer experience, team motivation, and innovation. He highlights the importance of trust in remote work productivity and collaboration, and the necessity to leverage technology to create value from data.
π The Talent Race: Cultivating Work Culture in a Virtual Environment
Andrew Al addresses the challenges of maintaining top talent in a remote work scenario, where job-switching is easier than ever. He stresses the importance of culture in giving employees a reason to engage beyond financial incentives. Al also touches on the need for curiosity and the right technological tools to facilitate seamless collaboration. He suggests that establishing new rituals and habits, such as 'Friday Failures', can foster a learning culture that values progress over perfection.
π The Hybrid Future of Work: Balancing Remote and In-Office Dynamics
The discussion shifts to the hybrid working model, which combines remote and in-office work. Al envisions a future where the traditional 9-to-5 workweek is replaced by a more flexible schedule, with some employees working permanently from home and others in the office. He identifies the risk of creating an 'us versus them' mentality and emphasizes the importance of technology and infrastructure to ensure productive meetings and a level playing field for all employees, regardless of their work location.
Mindmap
Keywords
π‘Pandemic
π‘Work from home
π‘Remote work management
π‘Innovation
π‘Collaboration
π‘Productivity
π‘Recruitment and development
π‘Work culture
π‘Hybrid working model
π‘Technology race
π‘Global teams
π‘Work-life balance
Highlights
The pandemic has led to a significant shift towards remote work for many individuals who may not return to the office.
Andrew Al, co-founder and president of Intercept, discusses the transformation in work culture due to technological change.
Work has been rethought to include customer engagement, team motivation, and collaborative operations.
Innovation is now a requirement for business rather than a means to lead the industry.
Assumptions about remote work have been challenged, proving productivity and collaboration can occur outside a traditional office setting.
Managers face new challenges in maintaining collaboration, productivity, and recruitment in a remote work environment.
The ability to switch jobs easily has intensified the importance of workplace culture in retaining top talent.
Technology is a requirement for seamless collaboration in the new work reality.
Creating a work culture without face-to-face interaction involves identifying and activating the organization's culture.
New rituals, such as 'Friday Failures,' can foster a learning culture and progress over perfection.
Balancing professional and personal life is crucial for productivity in a virtual environment.
The traditional 9-to-5 work schedule has been disrupted, necessitating a reevaluation of work patterns.
A hybrid working model is emerging, combining remote and in-office work.
Creating a level playing field for remote and in-office workers is essential to avoid an 'us versus them' mentality.
Investing in the right technology and infrastructure is key to productive remote and in-person meetings.
International Women's Day highlights the opportunity for a more flexible and empathetic workplace.
The successful office of the future will harmonize remote and in-office teams effectively.
Employers must implement new governance and flex policies to empower work-life balance and flexibility.
The pandemic presents an opportunity to rethink work environments and create better products for consumers.
Transcripts
the onset of the pandemic nearly one
year ago
sparked what has since become a huge
transition for many people who are now
working from home
thinking they may never go back to the
office it's not the only seismic
transformation to the world of work
though that may remain with us in the
months and years ahead and that's our
focus for this morning
with some of your questions and a number
of guests including
andrew al with us who's the co-founder
and president of intercept
which is a consulting company that helps
businesses respond
to technological change he's someone who
knows all about work culture
and he's in toronto this morning andrew
welcome to our show
heather good morning and thanks for
having me well i'm looking forward to
tapping into what you know
about and what the future is going to
look like in your view andrew
what has covid changed most about work
well you know heather i think we've had
to rethink work
you know everything from how do we
engage our customers and the
experiences that we deliver them to how
do we even motivate the people on our
team how do we get them to be working
more fluidly together
operations we've seen a ton of
transformation here in terms of
how do we take data apply technologies
to actually create value from that
um and i think we've had to rethink what
does it mean to be innovative
because innovation used to mean that we
could lead industry now it's
it's simply a requirement to do business
um
and i think we've also had to re recheck
our assumptions because before the
pandemic
i think the whole concept of remote work
management always had this issue of can
i trust people to be productive
from home can they be collaborative in a
remote environment can we be compliant
and we prove that we can do that
so that's a really interesting thing to
pick up on the assumptions i was going
to ask you specifically this new reality
of work from home
which seems destined to continue in some
form or shape or form which we can look
at what you think it's going to look
like in the future but
for managers for bosses owners what
happens to collaboration what happens to
productivity what happens to recruitment
and development from the bosses
standpoint andrew
it's a great point i think that you you
know you think about the race that we're
in a lot of people think we're in a
technology race and and i disagree
because technology it's all the same
right that doesn't create difference
what creates difference is people and
that and and so we're in the talent race
um i'll say so i think for for for
businesses it's
how do you keep your top talent i think
that's harder than ever because
the the ability to switch jobs is easier
than ever
if you're going to be working remotely
whether you work for company a or b
it's the same desk that you're working
from so you've got to work that much
harder so i think it really places an
emphasis on culture
and how do you give people a reason to
show up to work that's beyond beyond a
paycheck
um and so that's that's that's a big
piece of it and i think also
i come back to technology yes it's not a
differentiator but it is also a
requirement it is a small hinge that
swings a pretty big door
we have to get good about using the
tools if we want to have more seamless
collaboration
so a little bit of curiosity is needed
on that phone so to bring in and keep
the best talent in this new reality
technology uh a good work culture but
how do you create a work culture
when people aren't dealing face to face
and seeing each other
every day yeah that's that's a great
point and it comes down to
frankly first of all identifying what
your culture is
uh and then finding ways to to activate
it you know some some organizations are
exploring with
friday failures right so that's every
friday they get around the table and
they talk about the things and not just
the triumphs and the wins and the
successes
what are the things we failed at what do
we learn from that
that is what builds a learning culture
that incense
progress over perfection so it's it's
new rituals
like that new habits that we need to
form
from the employee standpoint if we've
talked about the employer for a moment
you know again how do they and i'm
thinking particularly maybe a new
employee how do they navigate this
because how does someone who just starts
a new job
how manage the career trajectory they
don't have opportunity to meet the
bosses and show off their stuff in the
same way
it's a that's a great point i think that
it comes down to how do you how do you
walk the physical floor but also the
virtual floor
and so how do you pop in and have these
quick chats or ims
or quick calls i think the thing we need
to get over is that
in a virtual environment not everything
has to be scheduled
not everything is a 30-minute meeting so
it's okay to just call somebody and if
they're
available they are if they're not
they're not
but i think a big part of being
successful as an individual these days
is how do you balance your
professional and your personal lives
because i think heather
the thing that we've we've gained time
as a result of not having a commute but
i'll tell you what we lost
is the ability to transition in and out
of work mode
oh that's a good point they're all on
the same now aren't they really for so
many people
exactly and so if we're caught in this
perpetual work mode
and we're not building in recovery
routines we're not being our best
version of ourselves
that's the key is that to be more
productive we need to be able to take
breaks
that ensures that we're performing at
our at our best and also again how do
you walk that virtual floor
how do you peek in and just you know
have those instant messages have those
calls
not everything has to be a 30 minute
call scheduled call
it's really blown up the nine to five
schedule hasn't it in so many ways
you know when we talk about remote work
uh there's a lot of discussion about a
hybrid working model
that will have people in the office for
a couple of days and at home for a few
days how do you see
the actual sort of framework of a week
in the future yeah heather that's a
great point i think if i were to sum up
you know what does that future of work
look like
it is hybrid it is people going from
home
in office and having some people maybe
working permanently in office and some
working permanently remotely
so i think that we have to get good
about how do we create harmony how do we
recreate that team flow here
because that's really the key piece um
but yeah it it is
that the nine to five in office five
days a week it's just
it's it's not going to survive i think
we're in office a couple days a week
at best and i think we're going to have
more global teams
you know being able to collaborate yeah
across time zones
when you say that some are going to be
in the office permanently some are going
to be at home
does that risk creating sort of an us
versus them
within the company absolutely i think
heather that's
that that's a huge risk because i think
that it doesn't take
a lot to have this feeling of
somebody that that we're not on on an
equal playing field i think that
the objective for the manager is to how
do you create that level playing field
and think about before
the pandemic when you had a boardroom
meeting and you had somebody
conferencing
in and you didn't have a shared screen
and it was through one of these
conference phones
is that a great experience for somebody
on the phone not really
right so i think little things like that
you can make people feel uncomfortable
and inhibit productivity so the goal is
how do you again
you know invest in the right technology
the right meeting spaces
the right infrastructure so that you're
able to have productive meetings both
you know remotely is also in a boardroom
you need screens you need platforms like
teams
you need these these core infrastructure
pieces
technology key in all of this obviously
um
i'm wondering we've talked through the
morning andrew as we've looked
particularly as it relates to
international women's day and women who
bore the brunt of so many of these
changes
there are some who look to this the
office of the future as being
an opportunity an opportunity to become
more flexible to become you know
different ways of performance
assessments to become even perhaps more
empathetic now how do you see that yeah
i
i agree with that um i think that
we have more choice more flexibility but
it's up to us
as to whether we take advantage of that
whether we leverage that because like i
said we go back to time
we've gained more time but do i feel
that we've achieved more work-life
balance
absolutely not so i think that's a
conscious
that's a conscious decision i think it's
also on the employer on the
organizations to implement new rules
you know what what are your flex
policies because i think without the
right governance you could have the
options there
but people feel hesitant to to to use
them to exercise them
so i think having the right governance
from the from the organization side
um is is absolutely critical to actually
empowering
something like that so paint the picture
for me then i mean not everybody
only 40 i believe is the number of
people can actually work from home
so a lot of this has yet to be sort of
formalized this is all a period of
transition but in your view
what does the successful office of the
future look like
i think the successful office of the
future is the one that can
harmonize remote and in
office teams the best
i think that is really the key is
creating that level playing field
um is because the thing is the grass is
greener mentality always exists the ones
that are working in office think that
the people working
remotely have it best they can do their
laundry and their work
and vice versa the ones working remotely
think the people in office they get all
the attention they're plugged in they're
in the know
it's about harmony whoever can harmonize
that the best
um i i think again too is that we have
all these new opportunities
we have a choice management leadership
individual workers we have a choice we
can either return to work
um and and simply have that survived
mentality hope for the norm
or we can rethink it and that really is
the opportunity how do we rethink it
um to create better work environments
better products for
for for consumers as well andrew thank
you very much
andrew thanks for having me heather is
the co-founder and president of
intercept and he's with us from toronto
this morning
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