Work culture expert imagines your post-pandemic professional life

CBC News
8 Mar 202110:30

Summary

TLDRThe discussion centers on the seismic shifts in work culture due to the COVID-19 pandemic, with a focus on the future of remote work and its impact on collaboration, productivity, and recruitment. Andrew Al, co-founder and president of Intercept, emphasizes the importance of a strong work culture and the need for businesses to adapt to a hybrid model, balancing remote and in-office work to maintain team harmony and leverage technology for seamless collaboration. The conversation also touches on the challenges of creating an inclusive work environment and the potential for a more flexible and empathetic workplace.

Takeaways

  • 🏠 The COVID-19 pandemic has accelerated a massive shift to remote work, which is likely to continue in some form.
  • πŸ› οΈ Work culture and operations have been rethought to adapt to new ways of engaging customers and motivating teams.
  • πŸ’‘ Innovation is no longer just about leading the industry but has become a necessity for businesses to survive.
  • πŸ”„ Assumptions about remote work have been challenged, proving that productivity and collaboration can occur outside a traditional office setting.
  • 🌐 Businesses are now in a 'talent race' to retain top talent, as remote work has made job-switching easier.
  • 🀝 The emphasis on culture is heightened to give employees a reason to engage beyond financial incentives.
  • πŸ›« Technology is a crucial tool for seamless collaboration, requiring curiosity and the right tools to be effective.
  • πŸ† Creating a strong work culture in a remote setting involves identifying and activating the organization's values through new rituals and habits.
  • πŸ”„ For new employees, navigating a remote work environment requires balancing professional presence with the flexibility of virtual interactions.
  • πŸ•°οΈ The traditional 9-to-5 work schedule has been disrupted, with a shift towards a hybrid model that includes both in-office and remote work.
  • 🌐 The future of work is expected to be more global, with teams collaborating across different time zones, requiring effective technology and infrastructure.
  • πŸ”„ The risk of creating an 'us versus them' dynamic within a company due to hybrid work models needs to be managed by fostering equality and inclusiveness.
  • 🌱 The opportunity for more flexible and empathetic work environments has emerged, but it requires conscious decisions and governance from organizations.
  • πŸ† The successful office of the future will be one that harmonizes remote and in-office teams effectively, creating a level playing field for all employees.

Q & A

  • How has the onset of the pandemic affected the world of work?

    -The pandemic has sparked a huge transition with many people now working from home, and it has led to a seismic transformation in work culture that may continue in the months and years ahead.

  • What does Andrew Al believe has changed most about work due to COVID?

    -Andrew Al suggests that we've had to rethink work, including how we engage customers, deliver experiences, motivate team members, and innovate, as innovation has become a requirement for doing business.

  • What assumptions about remote work did the pandemic challenge?

    -The pandemic challenged assumptions about remote work, particularly the trust in employees' productivity, collaboration, and compliance when working from home.

  • What is the new reality of work from home according to Andrew Al?

    -The new reality of work from home is likely to continue in some form, affecting aspects such as collaboration, productivity, recruitment, and development within organizations.

  • What does Andrew Al think is the key to retaining top talent in a remote work environment?

    -Andrew Al believes that creating a strong work culture and providing reasons for people to show up to work beyond just a paycheck is key to retaining top talent in a remote work environment.

  • How does Andrew Al view the role of technology in the future of work?

    -Andrew Al sees technology as a requirement rather than a differentiator, emphasizing the need for businesses to use the right tools for seamless collaboration.

  • What challenges does creating a work culture present when people are not working face-to-face?

    -Creating a work culture without face-to-face interaction involves identifying the culture and finding ways to activate it, such as through new rituals and habits that foster a sense of community and learning.

  • How can new employees navigate their career trajectory in a remote work environment?

    -New employees can navigate their career trajectory by learning to 'walk the virtual floor,' engaging in quick chats, instant messages, and calls, and balancing professional and personal life effectively.

  • What does Andrew Al predict for the future framework of a workweek?

    -Andrew Al predicts a hybrid future of work, with people working from home and in the office, and an emphasis on creating harmony and team flow across different working environments.

  • What risks does a hybrid working model pose in terms of creating an 'us versus them' within a company?

    -A hybrid working model risks creating an 'us versus them' mentality if remote and in-office workers do not feel they are on an equal playing field, which requires managers to create a level playing field.

  • How does Andrew Al view the role of governance in empowering flexibility in the workplace?

    -Andrew Al believes that having the right governance and flex policies from organizations is critical in empowering employees to take advantage of the flexibility offered by the new work environment.

  • What does Andrew Al envision for the successful office of the future?

    -The successful office of the future, according to Andrew Al, is one that can harmonize remote and in-office teams effectively, creating a level playing field and leveraging the opportunities presented by the new work environment.

Outlines

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🏑 The New Work Reality: Transitioning to Remote Work

The pandemic has catalyzed a significant shift towards remote work, with many questioning the necessity of returning to traditional office settings. Andrew Al, co-founder and president of Intercept, discusses the seismic changes in work culture, emphasizing the need to rethink engagement, customer experience, team motivation, and innovation. He highlights the importance of trust in remote work productivity and collaboration, and the necessity to leverage technology to create value from data.

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🌟 The Talent Race: Cultivating Work Culture in a Virtual Environment

Andrew Al addresses the challenges of maintaining top talent in a remote work scenario, where job-switching is easier than ever. He stresses the importance of culture in giving employees a reason to engage beyond financial incentives. Al also touches on the need for curiosity and the right technological tools to facilitate seamless collaboration. He suggests that establishing new rituals and habits, such as 'Friday Failures', can foster a learning culture that values progress over perfection.

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πŸ”„ The Hybrid Future of Work: Balancing Remote and In-Office Dynamics

The discussion shifts to the hybrid working model, which combines remote and in-office work. Al envisions a future where the traditional 9-to-5 workweek is replaced by a more flexible schedule, with some employees working permanently from home and others in the office. He identifies the risk of creating an 'us versus them' mentality and emphasizes the importance of technology and infrastructure to ensure productive meetings and a level playing field for all employees, regardless of their work location.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Pandemic

The term 'pandemic' refers to an outbreak of a disease that occurs over a wide geographic area and affects an exceptionally high proportion of the population. In the context of the video, the pandemic is the catalyst for significant changes in the world of work, leading to widespread adoption of remote work and a reevaluation of traditional office environments.

πŸ’‘Work from home

Work from home (WFH) is a flexible work arrangement where employees perform their work outside of a traditional office environment. The script discusses the shift towards WFH due to the pandemic and the potential permanence of this arrangement, highlighting the need for rethinking work culture and productivity.

πŸ’‘Remote work management

Remote work management involves overseeing employees who work outside the traditional office setting. The script addresses the historical concerns of trust and productivity in remote work environments and how the pandemic has proven these assumptions wrong, necessitating a reevaluation of management practices.

πŸ’‘Innovation

Innovation is the process of translating an idea or invention into a good or service that creates value or for which customers will pay. The script suggests that innovation is no longer just a competitive advantage but a requirement for businesses to survive, indicating a shift in the importance of creativity and new ideas in the workplace.

πŸ’‘Collaboration

Collaboration refers to the act of working together to achieve a common goal. The script discusses the challenges and opportunities of maintaining collaboration in a remote work environment, emphasizing the need for new tools and practices to facilitate teamwork.

πŸ’‘Productivity

Productivity is the efficiency of productive activity, often measured as the ratio of output to inputs. The video script explores the impact of remote work on productivity, noting that the traditional 9-to-5 work schedule may not be as effective and that new strategies are needed to maintain or enhance productivity.

πŸ’‘Recruitment and development

Recruitment and development encompass the processes of attracting, selecting, and growing talent within an organization. The script raises questions about how these processes will evolve in a remote work context, particularly in terms of onboarding new employees and supporting their career progression.

πŸ’‘Work culture

Work culture refers to the values, norms, and environment that shape the work experience. The script highlights the importance of cultivating a strong work culture in a remote setting, where traditional cues and interactions are absent, and the need for new rituals and habits to foster a sense of belonging and motivation.

πŸ’‘Hybrid working model

A hybrid working model combines remote work with in-office work, allowing flexibility in how and where employees complete their tasks. The script suggests that this model may become more prevalent, requiring organizations to balance the benefits and challenges of both remote and in-person work.

πŸ’‘Technology race

The term 'technology race' implies a competitive environment where organizations strive to adopt the latest technologies to gain an advantage. However, the script argues that technology itself is not a differentiator but rather a requirement, emphasizing the importance of people and talent in creating a competitive edge.

πŸ’‘Global teams

Global teams are groups of individuals working across different geographic locations and often time zones. The script mentions the increasing prevalence of global teams and the need for effective collaboration tools and practices to support seamless communication and productivity.

πŸ’‘Work-life balance

Work-life balance refers to the equilibrium between an individual's work responsibilities and personal life. The script discusses the challenges of maintaining this balance in a remote work context, where the boundaries between work and home can become blurred, and the importance of establishing recovery routines.

Highlights

The pandemic has led to a significant shift towards remote work for many individuals who may not return to the office.

Andrew Al, co-founder and president of Intercept, discusses the transformation in work culture due to technological change.

Work has been rethought to include customer engagement, team motivation, and collaborative operations.

Innovation is now a requirement for business rather than a means to lead the industry.

Assumptions about remote work have been challenged, proving productivity and collaboration can occur outside a traditional office setting.

Managers face new challenges in maintaining collaboration, productivity, and recruitment in a remote work environment.

The ability to switch jobs easily has intensified the importance of workplace culture in retaining top talent.

Technology is a requirement for seamless collaboration in the new work reality.

Creating a work culture without face-to-face interaction involves identifying and activating the organization's culture.

New rituals, such as 'Friday Failures,' can foster a learning culture and progress over perfection.

Balancing professional and personal life is crucial for productivity in a virtual environment.

The traditional 9-to-5 work schedule has been disrupted, necessitating a reevaluation of work patterns.

A hybrid working model is emerging, combining remote and in-office work.

Creating a level playing field for remote and in-office workers is essential to avoid an 'us versus them' mentality.

Investing in the right technology and infrastructure is key to productive remote and in-person meetings.

International Women's Day highlights the opportunity for a more flexible and empathetic workplace.

The successful office of the future will harmonize remote and in-office teams effectively.

Employers must implement new governance and flex policies to empower work-life balance and flexibility.

The pandemic presents an opportunity to rethink work environments and create better products for consumers.

Transcripts

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the onset of the pandemic nearly one

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year ago

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sparked what has since become a huge

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transition for many people who are now

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working from home

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thinking they may never go back to the

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office it's not the only seismic

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transformation to the world of work

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though that may remain with us in the

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months and years ahead and that's our

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focus for this morning

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with some of your questions and a number

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of guests including

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andrew al with us who's the co-founder

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and president of intercept

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which is a consulting company that helps

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businesses respond

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to technological change he's someone who

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knows all about work culture

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and he's in toronto this morning andrew

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welcome to our show

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heather good morning and thanks for

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having me well i'm looking forward to

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tapping into what you know

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about and what the future is going to

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look like in your view andrew

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what has covid changed most about work

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well you know heather i think we've had

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to rethink work

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you know everything from how do we

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engage our customers and the

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experiences that we deliver them to how

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do we even motivate the people on our

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team how do we get them to be working

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more fluidly together

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operations we've seen a ton of

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transformation here in terms of

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how do we take data apply technologies

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to actually create value from that

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um and i think we've had to rethink what

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does it mean to be innovative

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because innovation used to mean that we

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could lead industry now it's

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it's simply a requirement to do business

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um

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and i think we've also had to re recheck

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our assumptions because before the

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pandemic

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i think the whole concept of remote work

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management always had this issue of can

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i trust people to be productive

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from home can they be collaborative in a

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remote environment can we be compliant

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and we prove that we can do that

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so that's a really interesting thing to

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pick up on the assumptions i was going

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to ask you specifically this new reality

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of work from home

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which seems destined to continue in some

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form or shape or form which we can look

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at what you think it's going to look

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like in the future but

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for managers for bosses owners what

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happens to collaboration what happens to

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productivity what happens to recruitment

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and development from the bosses

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standpoint andrew

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it's a great point i think that you you

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know you think about the race that we're

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in a lot of people think we're in a

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technology race and and i disagree

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because technology it's all the same

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right that doesn't create difference

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what creates difference is people and

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that and and so we're in the talent race

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um i'll say so i think for for for

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businesses it's

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how do you keep your top talent i think

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that's harder than ever because

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the the ability to switch jobs is easier

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than ever

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if you're going to be working remotely

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whether you work for company a or b

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it's the same desk that you're working

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from so you've got to work that much

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harder so i think it really places an

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emphasis on culture

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and how do you give people a reason to

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show up to work that's beyond beyond a

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paycheck

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um and so that's that's that's a big

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piece of it and i think also

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i come back to technology yes it's not a

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differentiator but it is also a

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requirement it is a small hinge that

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swings a pretty big door

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we have to get good about using the

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tools if we want to have more seamless

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collaboration

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so a little bit of curiosity is needed

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on that phone so to bring in and keep

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the best talent in this new reality

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technology uh a good work culture but

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how do you create a work culture

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when people aren't dealing face to face

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and seeing each other

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every day yeah that's that's a great

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point and it comes down to

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frankly first of all identifying what

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your culture is

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uh and then finding ways to to activate

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it you know some some organizations are

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exploring with

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friday failures right so that's every

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friday they get around the table and

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they talk about the things and not just

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the triumphs and the wins and the

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successes

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what are the things we failed at what do

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we learn from that

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that is what builds a learning culture

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that incense

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progress over perfection so it's it's

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new rituals

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like that new habits that we need to

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form

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from the employee standpoint if we've

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talked about the employer for a moment

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you know again how do they and i'm

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thinking particularly maybe a new

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employee how do they navigate this

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because how does someone who just starts

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a new job

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how manage the career trajectory they

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don't have opportunity to meet the

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bosses and show off their stuff in the

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same way

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it's a that's a great point i think that

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it comes down to how do you how do you

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walk the physical floor but also the

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virtual floor

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and so how do you pop in and have these

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quick chats or ims

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or quick calls i think the thing we need

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to get over is that

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in a virtual environment not everything

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has to be scheduled

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not everything is a 30-minute meeting so

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it's okay to just call somebody and if

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they're

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available they are if they're not

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they're not

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but i think a big part of being

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successful as an individual these days

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is how do you balance your

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professional and your personal lives

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because i think heather

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the thing that we've we've gained time

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as a result of not having a commute but

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i'll tell you what we lost

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is the ability to transition in and out

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of work mode

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oh that's a good point they're all on

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the same now aren't they really for so

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many people

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exactly and so if we're caught in this

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perpetual work mode

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and we're not building in recovery

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routines we're not being our best

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version of ourselves

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that's the key is that to be more

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productive we need to be able to take

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breaks

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that ensures that we're performing at

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our at our best and also again how do

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you walk that virtual floor

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how do you peek in and just you know

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have those instant messages have those

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calls

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not everything has to be a 30 minute

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call scheduled call

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it's really blown up the nine to five

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schedule hasn't it in so many ways

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you know when we talk about remote work

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uh there's a lot of discussion about a

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hybrid working model

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that will have people in the office for

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a couple of days and at home for a few

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days how do you see

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the actual sort of framework of a week

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in the future yeah heather that's a

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great point i think if i were to sum up

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you know what does that future of work

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look like

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it is hybrid it is people going from

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home

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in office and having some people maybe

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working permanently in office and some

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working permanently remotely

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so i think that we have to get good

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about how do we create harmony how do we

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recreate that team flow here

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because that's really the key piece um

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but yeah it it is

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that the nine to five in office five

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days a week it's just

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it's it's not going to survive i think

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we're in office a couple days a week

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at best and i think we're going to have

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more global teams

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you know being able to collaborate yeah

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across time zones

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when you say that some are going to be

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in the office permanently some are going

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to be at home

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does that risk creating sort of an us

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versus them

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within the company absolutely i think

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heather that's

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that that's a huge risk because i think

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that it doesn't take

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a lot to have this feeling of

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somebody that that we're not on on an

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equal playing field i think that

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the objective for the manager is to how

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do you create that level playing field

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and think about before

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the pandemic when you had a boardroom

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meeting and you had somebody

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conferencing

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in and you didn't have a shared screen

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and it was through one of these

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conference phones

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is that a great experience for somebody

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on the phone not really

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right so i think little things like that

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you can make people feel uncomfortable

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and inhibit productivity so the goal is

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how do you again

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you know invest in the right technology

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the right meeting spaces

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the right infrastructure so that you're

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able to have productive meetings both

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you know remotely is also in a boardroom

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you need screens you need platforms like

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teams

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you need these these core infrastructure

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pieces

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technology key in all of this obviously

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um

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i'm wondering we've talked through the

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morning andrew as we've looked

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particularly as it relates to

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international women's day and women who

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bore the brunt of so many of these

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changes

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there are some who look to this the

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office of the future as being

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an opportunity an opportunity to become

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more flexible to become you know

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different ways of performance

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assessments to become even perhaps more

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empathetic now how do you see that yeah

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i

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i agree with that um i think that

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we have more choice more flexibility but

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it's up to us

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as to whether we take advantage of that

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whether we leverage that because like i

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said we go back to time

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we've gained more time but do i feel

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that we've achieved more work-life

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balance

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absolutely not so i think that's a

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conscious

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that's a conscious decision i think it's

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also on the employer on the

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organizations to implement new rules

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you know what what are your flex

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policies because i think without the

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right governance you could have the

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options there

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but people feel hesitant to to to use

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them to exercise them

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so i think having the right governance

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from the from the organization side

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um is is absolutely critical to actually

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empowering

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something like that so paint the picture

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for me then i mean not everybody

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only 40 i believe is the number of

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people can actually work from home

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so a lot of this has yet to be sort of

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formalized this is all a period of

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transition but in your view

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what does the successful office of the

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future look like

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i think the successful office of the

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future is the one that can

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harmonize remote and in

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office teams the best

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i think that is really the key is

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creating that level playing field

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um is because the thing is the grass is

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greener mentality always exists the ones

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that are working in office think that

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the people working

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remotely have it best they can do their

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laundry and their work

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and vice versa the ones working remotely

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think the people in office they get all

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the attention they're plugged in they're

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in the know

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it's about harmony whoever can harmonize

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that the best

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um i i think again too is that we have

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all these new opportunities

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we have a choice management leadership

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individual workers we have a choice we

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can either return to work

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um and and simply have that survived

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mentality hope for the norm

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or we can rethink it and that really is

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the opportunity how do we rethink it

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um to create better work environments

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better products for

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for for consumers as well andrew thank

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you very much

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andrew thanks for having me heather is

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the co-founder and president of

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intercept and he's with us from toronto

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this morning

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