ATF At Your Door? NEVER Do This Or You'll Regret It...

Tom Grieve
25 Apr 202310:49

Summary

TLDRIn this video, former state criminal prosecutor Tom Grieve discusses the three most common ways law enforcement can legally enter your home, emphasizing the importance of understanding your rights. He covers consent, plain sight doctrine, and probable cause, including exigent circumstances. Grieve also advises viewers on how to protect their rights and warns that police are legally allowed to lie to gain access.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ“œ The Fourth Amendment and the exclusionary rule are crucial for understanding the rights of citizens when law enforcement is involved in a search.
  • ๐Ÿšจ Law enforcement can often gain entry into homes through three common methods: consent, plain sight, and probable cause.
  • ๐Ÿ  Consent is the most common way law enforcement enters a home, and it's important to understand that once they cross the threshold, the rules change.
  • ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ Officers are trained to ask for consent casually, and citizens should be cautious about giving it, especially if they do not live alone.
  • ๐ŸŒฟ The plain sight doctrine allows law enforcement to act on items they can see without a warrant, including through windows or in vehicles.
  • ๐Ÿ” Probable cause can be established with a warrant or under exigent circumstances, which include imminent danger, suspect escape, or evidence destruction.
  • ๐Ÿ“œ Warrants must be specific in their scope, and even if later deemed illegal, resisting them can be a crime.
  • ๐Ÿšจ Exigent circumstances can justify warrantless entry, but these are determined by the facts known to the officials at the time.
  • ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ Law enforcement is allowed to lie to citizens to gain entry or elicit confessions, which is considered good police work.
  • ๐Ÿ‘ฅ It's important to educate those you live with about their rights and the tactics law enforcement may use to gain entry.
  • ๐Ÿ“ฑ Be cautious with social media posts, as they can be used against individuals in court.

Q & A

  • What are the three most common ways law enforcement can enter your home according to the video?

    -The three most common ways are: 1) Consent, where the homeowner allows law enforcement to enter their home. 2) Plain Sight, where law enforcement sees something in plain view that may be illegal. 3) Probable Cause, which can be established either through a warrant or exigent circumstances.

  • What is the significance of the exclusionary rule in the context of law enforcement searches?

    -The exclusionary rule is a legal doctrine that states any evidence obtained illegally by law enforcement in violation of the Fourth Amendment can be suppressed and excluded from a trial. This rule is crucial in protecting individual rights and ensuring law enforcement follows proper procedures.

  • Why is it important for homeowners to be aware of the threshold of their home when law enforcement is involved?

    -The threshold of a home is significant because once law enforcement crosses it, the Fourth Amendment protections are at their peak. Law enforcement needs consent or a warrant to enter, and crossing the threshold without permission can lead to a violation of the homeowner's rights.

  • What is the Plain Sight doctrine and how does it apply to law enforcement searches?

    -The Plain Sight doctrine allows law enforcement officers to seize items they can see without a warrant if they are in plain view. This can apply to both automobile searches and home searches, where officers can see something illegal through a window or in a vehicle.

  • What are exigent circumstances and how do they relate to law enforcement entering a home?

    -Exigent circumstances are situations that require swift action to prevent imminent danger to life, serious damage to property, or the imminent escape of a suspect or destruction of evidence. Law enforcement can enter a home without a warrant under these circumstances.

  • What is the role of a warrant in law enforcement searches?

    -A warrant is a legal document issued by a judge that authorizes law enforcement to search a specific location at a certain time for certain items. It is a crucial part of the probable cause process and ensures that searches are conducted legally and within a defined scope.

  • Why is it important for homeowners to educate themselves and their housemates about their rights during law enforcement encounters?

    -Educating oneself and housemates about rights is crucial because law enforcement can use various tactics to gain entry or gather evidence. Being aware of these tactics and one's rights can help prevent unintentional consent or violation of privacy.

  • What advice does the video give regarding social media and its potential impact on legal cases?

    -The video advises viewers to be cautious about what they post on social media, as posts, pictures, and comments can be used as evidence against them in court. It emphasizes the importance of not posting anything that could be damaging to one's legal case.

  • What is the legal reality about police lying to suspects or homeowners during investigations?

    -The video states that law enforcement is legally allowed to lie to suspects or homeowners in certain situations to gain information or consent. This is considered part of 'good police work' and highlights the importance of individuals knowing their rights.

  • What is the final bonus strategy mentioned in the video for dealing with law enforcement?

    -The final bonus strategy is to be aware that police are trained to use words and tactics to manipulate situations. Knowing this can help individuals maintain their rights and not inadvertently give up their legal protections.

Outlines

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๐Ÿš๏ธ Understanding Your Rights with Law Enforcement

This paragraph introduces the topic of individual rights during encounters with law enforcement, focusing on the Fourth Amendment and the exclusionary rule. The speaker, Tom Grieve, a former state criminal prosecutor and criminal defense attorney, outlines the purpose of the video to educate viewers on common tactics used by law enforcement to bypass the Fourth Amendment and enter homes. He emphasizes the importance of being aware of these tactics and understanding the legal concept of the 'fruit of the poisonous tree' doctrine, which can lead to the suppression of evidence obtained illegally. The paragraph sets the stage for a discussion on consent, plain sight, and probable cause as methods law enforcement might use to enter a home.

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๐Ÿš” Common Law Enforcement Tactics for Home Entry

In this paragraph, Tom Grieve discusses the three most common tactics used by law enforcement to enter a home: consent, plain sight, and probable cause. He explains that consent is often the easiest way for law enforcement to gain entry, warning viewers to be cautious about verbal or non-verbal cues that might inadvertently grant permission. The plain sight doctrine is described as allowing law enforcement to act if they see illegal items in view, whether through a car window or a house window. Probable cause is introduced as another method for law enforcement to enter a home, either through a warrant or exigent circumstances, which are situations requiring swift action to prevent danger or destruction of evidence. Grieve advises viewers to educate themselves and others about these tactics to protect their rights.

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๐Ÿ“œ The Reality of Warrants and Exigent Circumstances

This paragraph delves deeper into the specifics of warrants and exigent circumstances as means for law enforcement to enter a home. Warrants are explained as legal documents that allow for a search within a defined scope and time, and Grieve advises viewers to not obstruct a warrant even if they believe it to be illegal, as doing so could be criminal. He also covers exigent circumstances, which include imminent danger to life, a suspect's escape, or the imminent destruction of evidence. Grieve emphasizes the importance of understanding these legal concepts and warns against the potential for law enforcement to use lies and manipulation as part of their investigative tactics.

๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ The Importance of Knowing Your Rights

In the final paragraph, the speaker stresses the importance of knowing one's rights when interacting with law enforcement. He highlights the fact that police are legally allowed to lie to individuals to gain entry to their homes or to elicit self-incriminating statements. Grieve encourages viewers to educate themselves and those they live with about these rights to avoid inadvertently waiving them. He also advises against posting potentially incriminating content on social media, as it can be used against individuals in court. The paragraph concludes with a reminder to be cautious and informed about legal rights and law enforcement practices.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กLaw Enforcement

Law enforcement refers to the agencies and individuals responsible for maintaining law and order within a community. In the video, it includes entities like Sheriffs, local police departments (PD), and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). The script discusses how these entities can interact with citizens and the rights citizens have during such interactions.

๐Ÿ’กFourth Amendment

The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects against unreasonable searches and seizures. It is central to the video's theme as it outlines the rights of individuals against intrusion by law enforcement. The script emphasizes the importance of this amendment in protecting citizens' privacy and the consequences when law enforcement violates it.

๐Ÿ’กExclusionary Rule

The exclusionary rule is a legal principle that excludes evidence obtained in violation of a defendant's constitutional rights from being used in a court of law. The video explains that if law enforcement violates the Fourth Amendment, any evidence obtained as a result can be suppressed, illustrating the rule's role in upholding individual rights.

๐Ÿ’กConsent

Consent in the context of the video refers to the voluntary agreement by a person to allow law enforcement to enter their property. The script discusses how law enforcement often seeks consent to enter homes, which can be verbal or non-verbal, and the importance of citizens understanding their right to refuse consent.

๐Ÿ’กPlain Sight

Plain sight doctrine allows law enforcement to seize items that are in plain view, without a warrant. The video uses the example of marijuana crumbs in a car to illustrate how this doctrine can be applied, emphasizing the need for citizens to be aware of what is visible to officers.

๐Ÿ’กProbable Cause

Probable cause is a legal standard used to determine if there is enough evidence to support a search warrant or an arrest. The video explains that probable cause can be established through a warrant or exigent circumstances, which are situations requiring immediate action.

๐Ÿ’กWarrant

A warrant is a legal document issued by a court that authorizes law enforcement to conduct a search or make an arrest. The video discusses how a warrant can be presented by officers to gain entry into a home and the importance of citizens understanding their rights when a warrant is served.

๐Ÿ’กExigent Circumstances

Exigent circumstances are urgent situations that allow law enforcement to enter a property without a warrant. The video provides examples such as imminent danger to life, the escape of a suspect, or the destruction of evidence, highlighting how these situations can justify a warrantless entry.

๐Ÿ’กCastle Doctrine

The castle doctrine is a legal principle that a person's home is their castle, and they have a right to defend it. The video mentions this doctrine in relation to the Fourth Amendment, emphasizing the heightened protection of a person's home against intrusion.

๐Ÿ’กPolice Lies

The video states that police are legally allowed to lie to citizens in certain circumstances to gain consent or elicit information. This is a critical point in the video, highlighting the need for citizens to be aware of their rights and the tactics used by law enforcement.

Highlights

Introduction to the three common ways law enforcement can bypass the Fourth Amendment to enter a home.

Explanation of the exclusionary rule and its importance in upholding the Fourth Amendment.

The concept of 'consent' as the primary method law enforcement uses to enter a home.

The legal significance of the threshold of a home and how it affects Fourth Amendment rights.

The training of law enforcement in obtaining consent and the importance of being cautious with it.

The impact of living with others on the consent process and the potential for misunderstandings.

Introduction to the 'Plain Sight' doctrine and its application in searches.

The risk of having illegal items in plain view and the consequences for homeowners.

How the 'Plain Sight' doctrine can extend to what officers can see through windows.

Discussion on 'probable cause' and its two operational methods: warrant basis and exigent circumstances.

The process of law enforcement obtaining a warrant and the scope of searches it allows.

The legal implications of resisting or obstructing a warrant and the importance of understanding one's rights.

Definition and examples of exigent circumstances that allow law enforcement entry without a warrant.

The role of social media in legal cases and the importance of being cautious with online content.

The reality that police are legally allowed to lie to individuals to obtain information or consent.

Advice on educating oneself and others about rights and the tactics used by law enforcement.

The importance of not consenting to searches or seizures beyond the scope of a warrant.

Encouragement for viewers to engage with the content and provide feedback for channel growth.

Transcripts

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so law enforcement whether it's Sheriff

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local PD or the ATF is knocking on your

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door and you want to know what your

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rights are hopefully this is not the

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time when you're watching this video

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hopefully you're watching this video in

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advance but I want to cover the three

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most common ways that law enforcement

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will be able to basically pierce the

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Fourth Amendment and get into your home

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that I see real live in court my name is

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Tom grieve I'm a former state criminal

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prosecutor criminal defense attorney

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guys

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let's get into it

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foreign

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so I'm going to give you the three most

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common tactics that I see work day in

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day out for law enforcement to basically

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get through things yeah I realize not

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all these are exactly tactics but

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they're just the most common ways and

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I'm gonna give you a bonus feature at

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the very end of this video it's

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something that everybody needs to know

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if they're envisioning it they could

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possibly have some sort of conversation

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like this with law enforcement but first

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I just want to touch on two words

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exclusionary rule these two words are

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why this matters this is basically the

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whole Doctrine oftentimes called the

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fruit of a poisonous tree if you really

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want to get technical and law that says

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look the Constitution the Fourth

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Amendment it matters if law enforcement

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violates the Constitution if they

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violate the Fourth Amendment and if your

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defense attorney throws a flag and the

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judge agrees that evidence that they

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obtained subsequent to their illegal

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search that could all be suppressed

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excluded thrown out of the case against

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you and while yes I understand that this

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can lead to some particularly

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distasteful outcomes I.E local drug

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dealers and hoodlums going free because

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the evidence got thrown out of course

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the Counterpoint is well do you want to

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do it with individual rights because

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that hasn't really worked out too well

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in the 20th century in the course of

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history before that it's in essence the

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price we pay the piper in order to live

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in a society where individual rights are

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protected that out of the way because I

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know if I don't cover that someone's me

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commenting on it someone probably will

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comment on it regardless let's get to

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the three most common things number one

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by far consent this is the number one

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most common thing I see law enforcement

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shows up at someone's door and yeah oh

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yeah come on in oh it's raining it's hot

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it's cold whatever the case may be yeah

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go ahead come on in and guys there's

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something very important I want you to

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imagine that when you open and close

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your door that threshold from the

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doorway thresholds by the way the legal

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term on that that's like a force field

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once law enforcement crosses that force

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field it's going to be a different game

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because now they're inside your home so

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the Fourth Amendment and of course your

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Castle is your home your home is your

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Castle that is at your peak in your home

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but once law enforcement's inside

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because you've consented that's going to

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change the game substantially so the

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name of the game for law enforcement is

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to cross the threshold and get in the

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name of the game for you the concerned

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citizen watching this video if you do

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want to exercise your rights is to make

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sure that they cannot cross that

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threshold keep in mind consent can be

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verbal such as yeah officer come inside

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it could be non-verbal as far as I'm

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going to hold open the door and gesture

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for them to come inside or something

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like that too okay and officers are very

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very trained they're very very good

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usually as far as being able to just

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casually ask hey you know can we just

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come inside it's cold it's hot whatever

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the case may be as I mentioned so you

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have to be careful about those things

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another very common thing you have to be

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careful about by the way is if you do

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not live alone if you live with a spouse

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a partner friend roommate whatever the

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case may be I cannot tell you how many

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times I've seen cases where hey the

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officers knock on the door mom wife

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husband someone who doesn't know what

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what's going on or just don't know their

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rights they think oh yeah I have to let

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them in because they're wearing a badge

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not true unless they've cut a warrant

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we're going to get to that so you have

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to be very careful about those sorts of

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things the second most common thing I

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see and this is particularly applicable

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to automobile searches but it can and

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often does extend to the house something

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called Plain Sight Plain Sight

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doctrine's pretty straightforward I want

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you to imagine that you're out in your

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car and you live in a state where

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marijuana is illegal and there's a

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little bit of marijuana crumbs Shake

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whatever it is you want to call it

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that's on your dashboard or is in the

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back seat or something like that and if

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you just can't fathom people might have

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cannabis then imagine whatever it is

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that's illegal and it's laying out the

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officer just walks by they're allowed to

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look in and they see it in plain sight

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game on that's what happens next

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likewise if officers are walking down

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the street okay or they're approaching

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your house and they see something

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through the window in plain sight that

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may Case by case basis that may allow

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them to get inside the home so you'll

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always have to be cautious about what

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you have in plain sight and keep in mind

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Plain Sight can also not be your eyes it

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can also be your nose depending upon

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what kind of substances or things we

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could be talking about here the third

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thing that we need to get to is the

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thing that I know that you're all

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wondering about and by the way again

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don't forget about the fourth thing

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we're going to slide in here at the very

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end and that's probable cause there's

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two ways that probable cause works and

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no we're not going to make this a law

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Treatise on exactly what's the probable

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cause how is that different than

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Reasonable Suspicion if you want that

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let me know in the common field probable

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cause you can work on a warrant basis or

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an exigent circumstances basis Warren's

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probably what you've seen in the movies

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in other words yeah the cops show up

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they present you some sort of document

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it's a warrant it allows them to search

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at a certain time for certain things

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within a certain scope so maybe it's you

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can search a particular room the garage

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maybe it's everything maybe it's

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extraordinarily limited they're only

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allowed to search a particular safe

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again those details ought to be on that

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cover sheet that they give you but

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sometimes I see people ask about that

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they do not give you right there and

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then at the scene is the affidavit in

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support of that warrant in other words

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the okay how did you get this

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information why is this allowed maybe

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you do get that maybe you don't that

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will vary from state to state Case by

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case but you will eventually be entitled

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to that but I want to make something

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very clear to you even if the warrant is

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subsequently thrown out for being

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illegal in court if you resist or

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obstruct that warrant it may be a crime

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so the safest advice again subject to

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state by state so check your local

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listings but the safest advice that

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virtually any attorney can give you is

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look if you're being served with a

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warrant raise your rights make it clear

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that you're not going to obstruct the

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warrant but you're not consenting to any

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searches or seizures or anything of the

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sort because this will allow your

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attorney to subsequently challenge

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things in court because I have seen

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prosecutors argue during a warrant

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search after the fact in court yeah

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there's a warrant here but then they

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totally consented to the search of the

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whole place or whatever particular room

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if it was outside the scope of the

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warrant whatever the case may be so just

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because there's a warrant in place

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doesn't mean that you have to consent if

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officers do not get a warrant they may

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still be allowed in through the Fourth

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Amendment into your home into your

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dwelling if there's exigent

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circumstances oxygen circumstances have

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been defined by a court as when an

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emergency situation requiring Swift

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action to prevent imminent danger to

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life or serious damage to property or to

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forestall the imminent Escape of a

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suspect or destruction evidence there's

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no ready litmus test for determining

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whether such circumstances exist and in

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each case the extraordinary situation

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must be measured by the facts known by

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the officials and quote okay in English

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we're basically talking about three

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things when we're talking about oxygen

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circumstances a situation where people

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are in imminent danger so Grandpa's

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collapsing of a heart attack and the

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officer can see them through the window

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they can break down the front door to

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get in help okay so that could be one

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situation or they see Grandpa being

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attacked by someone that could be

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another situation right so you could

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have a medical event you could have a

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physical Force encounter number two a

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suspect's Escape is imminent kind of

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speaks for itself or here's the big one

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number three evidence faces imminent

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destruction so we all know of course the

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class example of drugs being flushed

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down because we've all seen those movies

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but what about situations where I don't

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know let's say pistol braces could be

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getting detached because the ATF has

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said that pistol brace only turns a

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pistol into a rifle when it's attached

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so there could be situations like that

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here and no before you get angry at me

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I'm not giving them ideas trust me

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they're aware of all these ideas that

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are already out there but you can see

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how these oxygen circumstances can

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almost write themselves under certain

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situations what can you do about this

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now well first off talk to the people

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who you live with to educate them and

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make sure they are aware of the law and

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make sure that they know about the usual

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traps and they know about the usual ways

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that officers use to get in stop posting

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pictures memes and aggressive comments

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that will come back to haunt you on

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social media and the internet yeah I get

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it you have a First Amendment right no

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one's taking that away I'm simply

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reminding you that it is not an

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intrusion on your first amendment right

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when you hear these things read back

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against you in court down the line as

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exhibits in your case it happens to

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people every single day so unless you

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want to risk winning the legal Darwin

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Award be careful about what you post out

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there and I'm not suggesting it's always

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fair but I am telling you that that's

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life so before I get to the extra bonus

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the last big thing and what I'm about to

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say is not a political statement is it a

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legal statement of reality police are

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allowed to lie to you under the law Yes

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you heard me right and I realize that

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that may shock and offend some of your

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sensibilities there are limits to be

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clear as far as what lines law

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enforcements have to color within

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they're not allowed to lie about

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everything they are in every state that

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I'm familiar with allowed to lie to you

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about a lot of things you may even say

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the vast majority of things and if

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officers are allowed to lie to you to

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get permission to enter your home or to

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get you to confess or to say something

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that can later be used against you in

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court there's a word for that or term

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for that it's called good police work so

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again this is where you have to know

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your rights because it's very easy for

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law enforcement when they're engaging

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with folks who are frankly not used to

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dealing with police on this kind of

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grounds to get them to tell them

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everything that they need to know

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because they may not understand the fact

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that cops are allowed to and are highly

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schooled and trained on how to play

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these word and mind games with folks so

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you need to know that and you need to

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make sure the people in your life who

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you live with know that as well so again

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