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Summary
TLDRThis video script delves into the concept of transfer pricing, using a car manufacturing company as an example to illustrate how departments within the same company can set prices for goods transferred between them. It discusses the importance of autonomy in decision-making, factors influencing transfer pricing such as capacity, outside demand, and market price, and provides tips for determining minimum and optimal transfer prices. The script also covers different types of transfer pricing strategies, including variable cost, full cost, cost plus, market price, and negotiated pricing, offering valuable insights for those studying or working in commerce.
Takeaways
- π Transfer pricing is a concept that allows departments within the same company to negotiate prices for goods and services they exchange with each other.
- π’ The purpose of transfer pricing is to give autonomy to different departments, allowing them to decide whether to buy internally or from an external supplier.
- π An example is given where Department A makes tires for Department B's cars, and the quality and cost of the tires affect the final product's marketability.
- π° The transfer price should ideally be set considering the market price, capacity, and external demand for the product.
- π If there's unlimited external demand and capacity to meet it, the transfer price should reflect the market price to ensure both departments are satisfied.
- π« If there's no external demand, the minimum transfer price should cover at least the variable costs to avoid losses.
- π In situations where external demand exceeds capacity, the transfer price should account for the lost contribution from not selling to external customers.
- π The script suggests that for exam purposes, remember that the minimum transfer price is the variable cost, and the most reasonable price is the market price.
- π The concept of contribution margin is introduced, which is the difference between the selling price and the variable cost, and it's important when setting transfer prices.
- π Different types of transfer pricing methods are mentioned, such as variable cost, full cost, cost plus, market price, and negotiated transfer pricing.
- β οΈ The video ends with a caution to subscribe to the channel for timely updates and a reminder that transfer pricing has various methods and considerations.
Q & A
What is transfer pricing?
-Transfer pricing is the method by which the price of goods or services is set when they are exchanged between different departments or divisions within the same company.
Why is transfer pricing important for a company?
-Transfer pricing is important as it gives autonomy to different departments within a company to decide whether to buy from an internal source or an external supplier, based on quality and cost considerations.
What is the example given in the script to explain transfer pricing?
-The script uses the example of a company with two departments, A and B, where department A manufactures tires and department B assembles cars. Transfer pricing is used to determine how much department B should pay for the tires made by department A.
What are the two main factors to consider when setting a transfer price?
-The two main factors to consider when setting a transfer price are the capacity of the producing department and the outside market demand for the product.
What is the minimum transfer price that should be charged according to the script?
-The minimum transfer price to charge is the variable cost of production, which is the cost that varies with the level of output.
What is the best transfer price according to the script?
-The best transfer price, which keeps both department managers happy, is usually the market price of the product.
What happens if there is unlimited outside demand for the product?
-If there is unlimited outside demand, the transfer price should ideally be set at the market price, as the producing department could sell the product to external customers at that price.
What should be the transfer price if there is no outside demand for the product?
-If there is no outside demand, the transfer price should at least cover the total cost of production, and ideally, it should be set at the market price if the product was being sold externally.
What is the impact of distribution costs on the transfer price?
-Distribution costs should be considered in the transfer price. If selling internally saves on distribution costs, this saving can be factored into the transfer price to make it more favorable for the internal customer.
What is the contribution lost if internal supply leads to forgoing external sales?
-The contribution lost is the difference between the market selling price and the variable cost per unit of the product that is not sold externally due to the internal transfer.
What are the different types of transfer pricing methods mentioned in the script?
-The script mentions several types of transfer pricing methods including variable cost, full cost or absorption cost, cost plus, market price, negotiated transfer pricing, and arbitrary transfer pricing.
Outlines
π Introduction to Transfer Pricing and Its Impact on Internal Company Departments
This paragraph introduces the concept of transfer pricing, which is a relatively new and interesting topic in commerce. The speaker uses an example of a company with two departments, A and B, which are involved in the manufacturing and assembly of cars, respectively. Department A produces tires that are transferred to Department B for car assembly. The issue arises when the quality of the tires affects the sales of the final product. The introduction of transfer pricing gives autonomy to both departments, allowing them to decide whether to continue internal transactions or to seek external suppliers. The paragraph sets the stage for a deeper discussion on how to determine the transfer price by considering factors such as production costs, capacity, and market demand.
π° Determining Transfer Prices Based on Capacity and Market Demand
The second paragraph delves into how to determine the transfer price by considering the capacity of Department A to produce tires and the market demand for those tires. It presents a scenario where Department A has a maximum capacity of 10,000 tires per month and an unlimited market demand at a price of $200 per tire. The speaker explains that in such a situation, Department A would likely set the transfer price for Department B at the market rate of $200, given that there is no constraint on selling the tires externally. The paragraph also discusses the minimum transfer price, which should cover at least the variable cost of production, and emphasizes the importance of market price as the most reasonable transfer price.
π Scenarios Affecting Transfer Pricing Decisions
This paragraph explores different scenarios that influence transfer pricing decisions. It starts by considering a situation where there is no external demand for Department A's tires, leading to a minimum transfer price based on the variable cost of production. The speaker then presents a third scenario where there is an external demand of 6,000 tires and a current production level of 5,000 tires, which means Department A can sell an additional 1,000 tires externally. The paragraph discusses how the transfer price should be set considering the capacity utilization and the potential for external sales, as well as the implications of distribution costs and the potential savings when selling internally.
π Advanced Transfer Pricing Strategies and Conclusion
The final paragraph discusses advanced strategies for setting transfer prices, including the use of variable cost, full cost, market price, and negotiated prices. It also touches on the concept of contribution lost when internal sales replace external sales and how this should be factored into the transfer price. The speaker mentions different types of transfer pricing, such as cost plus, negotiated, and arbitrary transfer pricing, and advises viewers to read more on the subject for a comprehensive understanding. The paragraph concludes with a call to action for viewers to subscribe to the channel and engage with the content by leaving comments.
Mindmap
Keywords
π‘Transfer Pricing
π‘Department A and Department B
π‘Variable Cost
π‘Fixed Cost
π‘Market Price
π‘Capacity
π‘Outside Demand
π‘Autonomy
π‘Contribution Margin
π‘Negotiated Transfer Pricing
π‘Arbitrary Transfer Pricing
Highlights
Introduction to the concept of transfer pricing and its significance in commerce.
Explanation of transfer pricing through an example involving two departments within a company.
The problem of quality inconsistency in products transferred between company departments.
The impact of transfer pricing on departmental autonomy and decision-making.
How transfer pricing introduces competition within a company for better product quality and pricing.
The calculation of transfer price based on variable and fixed costs.
Importance of capacity and outside demand in determining transfer pricing.
Market price as a reference point for setting transfer prices.
Scenario analysis of transfer pricing when there is unlimited outside demand.
The minimum transfer price should be the variable cost in the absence of outside demand.
The best transfer price is often the market price for both department managers' satisfaction.
Consideration of distribution costs in the calculation of transfer prices.
The impact of lost contribution on transfer pricing when prioritizing internal over external sales.
Different types of transfer pricing methods used by companies.
Negotiated transfer pricing as a method to find a mutually agreeable price.
Arbitrary transfer pricing as a top-down approach when negotiations fail.
The importance of understanding transfer pricing for professional exams like CA, ACCA, CPA, CMA.
Encouragement for viewers to subscribe and engage with the channel for more informative content.
Transcripts
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hi i'm the commerce specialist welcome
to my channel in today's video we are
going to talk about transfer pricing
transfer pricing is relatively a new
concept but at the same time it's very
interesting
so what is transfer pricing i'm going to
explain you with the help of an example
you'll be able to understand it very
well let's assume a company has two
department department a
and department b
now this a and b are two departments of
the same company
and what the company does they make and
sell cars so we are assuming
department a
manufactures
tires
and then these tires are then
transferred to department b and then
they assemble the car
obviously they put the tires and then
the final car
is sold in the market
now the problem department
b is facing
is that the quality of tires made by
department a is not up to the mark
because of which they are having issues
selling the car in the recent past
what used to happen is department a
was
very careless
why because they knew
whether the quality of the tires they
are making is good or bad whether the
cost is high or low
they are indifferent because they know
ultimately the tires will go to b and
now it is their responsibility to
assemble to put the tires in the car and
sell it in the market whether they are
able to sell or not department a is not
concerned
but no more
with the introduction of transfer
pricing now it is possible for
department b to decide
whether they still want the tires made
by department a or they would like to
buy it from outside supplier which could
be more competitive or maybe higher
quality of tires may be at low price
but in the recent past b never had the
option to buy tires from outside the
only option they had is to get the tires
from department a
whether they supply on time whether it
is of high quality whether the cost of
production is high or low whatever
b had no option
but under transfer pricing what is
happening is
one of the main objective of companies
using transfer pricing is giving both
the departments the autonomy
the freedom to decide
so it works both ways
a
has the option
of
selling the tires they make
in the outside market if they're getting
a good price
they also have the option if they want
they can sell that our tires to b
for which b will obviously pay that is
known as the transfer price
and if you look at b b also has the
option now if the company uses transfer
pricing b also has the option either to
buy from outside or to purchase the
tires which is made by one of the
department which is part of the same
company
so now here we are looking at
how do we arrive at a transfer price
so i'm giving you some examples here
let's say
the variable cost of manufacturing one
tire
for department a is hundred dollars
the fixed cost for manufacturing one
tire by department a is 20
so the total cost of making one tire is
120.
so ideally if the total cost is 120 for
making one tire they are part of the
same company a should be selling one
tire for 120 to b
but as i said now a has the option of
selling it outside
so before we decide any transfer price
there are two important things we need
to look at number one
the capacity
for our example i am assuming the
capacity a can make maximum
10 000 tires
in a month
b
the second important thing
is the outside
demand the outside demand
what if i say
there is unlimited demand
there is unlimited demand for the tires
made by department a
and one important thing you need to look
at is what is the market price
market price
obviously we're talking about outside
market price
for tires made by department a let's say
it's 200
so given the scenario here
a has the maximum capacity a can make 10
000 tires in a month
all right
and can they sell the tires which a is
making can they sell it outside yes
the demand for tires made by a in the
outside market is unlimited means a can
make
all 10 000 tires
and can sell it easily outside in the
market for how much 200
now what we are assuming is
b needs
we need 1000 tires
1000 times from a
if i am the manager of department a
and b comes up with this request of 1000
tires
you know what i what is my thought
process
i can make 10 000 tires and i can sell
easily outside for 200 dollars each tire
b is asking me for 1000 which means now
i have to sell outside 9000 and 1000
tires i should be selling to b
so if outsiders are willing to pay me
200 for one tire i demand the same from
me
so please remember
the transfer price
in this situation where there exists an
unlimited outside demand
and where we have the capacity yes we
can make 10 000 tires
and b is only asking for one
but the issue is i can make 10 000 and
sell outside
so why should i sell b at a lower price
when i can get for all my tires at the
rate of 200 outside so the transfer
price in this scenario is i will ask
department b's manager okay i will
supply you 1000 tires but you pay me
what others are paying me
simple and straight
scenario 2
what if
there is no outside demand for the tires
made by a
department a can make 10 000 in a month
but nobody is willing to buy it outside
now if department b comes up with a
request of 1000 tires what to do
yes i would like to sell tires to b
and then
look at my cost
here i would like to tell you from
examination point of view
whether you are appearing in any
professional exam whether it be ca acc
cpa cma please remember one point
whenever you are asking the question
what is the minimum transfer price to
charge please remember the minimum
transfer price to charge is always the
variable cost
the minimum price to charge is the
variable cost
i'm not saying that we should always
charge the minimum price but if the
question asks you what is the minimum
price to charge it's always the variable
cost in this scenario i have no outside
demand my cost of production of one tire
is 120 if b is asking me ideally i
should be asking for 120 at least i want
to cover all my cost
but if the question says what is the
minimum price 8 should charge to be in
the absence of outside demand the
minimum price to charge will be the
variable cost which is 100 otherwise it
will be 120.
i hope you have understood this
another question is asked most of the
time what is the best transfer price
which keeps both the department managers
happy please remember the best transfer
price the most reasonable transfer price
is always the market price
please remember these are exam tips now
a third scenario could be
for example
outside demand
is
6 000 tires
and if i give you one additional
information
current
production level
is
50
means
the total capacity is 10 000.
at the moment
department a
is making fifty percent use of its
capacity which means they're making five
thousand tires
outside demand is 6000 that means they
can make one more 1000 tires and total 6
000 tires they can sell outside
that's okay
now if department b asks for 1000 tires
so if i'm department a's manager i need
to ask
what is my total capacity 10 000
how much i need to sell outside
my outside demand is 6 000 tires so
obviously outside demand means i can
sell it at 200.
so if i can make total 10 000 tires if i
can make 10 000 tires 6000 i can easily
sell outside
so if i'm making and selling 6000 tires
for example that's okay
now b is asking for one thousand dollars
my total capacity is ten i'm making and
selling six thousand outside can i make
one thousand more the answer is yes
so what price should i charge 200 no 200
is not a possibility because even b
knows that
that outside demand is only 6 000 for
our tires so i can make 6000 and sell
not more than 6000 if that was the
possibility i would love to sell outside
them
unless b offers me the same price
so in this scenario if i'm making and
selling 6000 tires outside i can make
1000 more tires and this 1000 more tires
either i asked b to pay me 120 no way
200
or if the minimum price that is hundred
so please keep this in mind
sometimes what happens
the question gives you in the similar
example uh
let's say one more point which is uh
distribution cost
per tire
which is let's say dollar two
for outside sales
so what is happening is
when i make tires yes my capacity is 10
i can easily sell 6000 outside but when
i do that i have to pay distribution
cost
because obviously tires are to be
delivered to the customer's place right
now if 1000 tires are required by
department b
that means
i'll be saving distribution cost of two
dollars
which
means this variable cost when i'm
talking about 100 this includes the
distribution cost
so what is the minimum price i should be
charging to department b if i choose to
give them 1000 tires the minimum price
would be the variable cost
minus the saving of distribution cost
which will be 98.
if it is not asked that the minimum cost
what should be the transfer price
normally at full cost full means
absorption cost absorption means
variable and fixed both so it is 120
minus 2
which is
180 so you have to look at if we are
transferring goods within the
organization it may save a certain cost
that should be subtracted
if you're selling outside there will be
some additional cost that should be
factored in
okay
one more important thing you need to
remember is sometimes what happens
that my outside
current production level is also 10 000
outside demand
is also 10 000
and there is no distribution cost
which means i'm making 10 000
my total capacity is 10 i'm making 10
i'm selling outside 10.
so now if department
b asked me for 1000 i need to consider
this
that in order to sell 1000 ties to b i
have to sell 9 000 over there if i sell
9 000 means i'm not selling 1000 there
if i'm not selling 1000 there there is a
contribution lost
so if you look at
contribution
contribution is the selling price minus
variable cost
my selling price is 200.
my variable cost is hundred so the
contribution
lost is hundred dollar per tire
which means
b is asking me for one
1000 tires so 100 into 1 thousand is
hundred thousand
this is my contribution lost
so if b is asking me
not to sell one thousand tires outside
but to transfer them provide them with
one thousand tires what will be my cost
so please have a look at this cost
100
per tire i am losing which definitely
which is contribution lost
contribution lost
per tire
definitely i'm going to charge b for
that
plus i'm going to charge my variable
cost
and if the question is not of minimum
price i would also like to charge my
fixed cost which is 20.
so this is the price i'll be asking b to
pay me
120 is my manufacturing cost
okay i'm not selling outside i'm losing
contribution of 100 per tire so you pay
me that you compensate me that
so please remember
if the question says that in order to
supply
an internal department you have to
compromise on outside sales so the
outside contribution lost is also to be
factored in when calculating cost of one
tire
guys another area of
transfer pricing is the types of
transfer pricing which a company can use
so let me tell you there are different
types there are many i'm just discussing
few
one is transfer pricing is also possible
at variable cost which is the minimum
price
i can transfer means it can transfer to
b only at variable cost a can transfer
to b at variable cost plus fixed cost
which is known as full cost or
absorption cost
a can also transfer to b
at full cost plus some profit we call it
cost plus
a can transfer to b tires at market
price
it can transfer to b
at a transfer price which is negotiated
negotiated means for example
my cost is 120 what if i know that b was
buying tires earlier from outside for
180
so if v has already been buying for 180
why can't you give me 180 and if not 180
at least somewhere between 120 and 180
if you want to buy from me
what if outside a price if b has been
buying the market price outside for
tires 200 so i know that okay i don't
have outside demand but if you buy from
outside it is for 200 so why don't you
pay me 200. we said no you are the same
department so what we do we set me and
department b's manager will sit down we
negotiate and we negotiate a price
somewhere between 120 and 200.
it depends who's the better negotiation
negotiator i would like a price which is
very close to 200 and we would like a
price which is very close close to 120.
that is known as negotiated transfer
pricing
the other transfer pricing is known as
arbitrary transfer pricing what if the
negotiation fails then the top
management instructs me
please transfer tires to be at this
amount that's it
end of the discussion
there are many other transfer pricing as
i said there are dual rate and there are
multiple transfer pricing so
you can go into the details read the
books i hope i've explained some key
points to you if you have any other
questions relating to transfer pricing
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