Carl Dumbrell & Phil McNamara 20 Oct 23 EMP

Carl Dumbrell
23 Oct 202313:01

Summary

TLDREmperor Energy's directors, K. Dumbrell and Phil McNamar, update shareholders on their focus on the Judith gas project in Victoria, with significant 2 TCF prospective resources. They discuss the project's potential to supply the East Coast market for 25 years, their application for a permit extension, and environmental plan progress. They also address inquiries from potential partners regarding gas quality and AVO interpretation accuracy. Additionally, they introduce a gold mining project to generate cash flow and support the company's long-term gas strategy.

Takeaways

  • 🛢️ Emperor Energy is focused on the Judith gas field in Vic P47 exploration permit in Bass Strait.
  • 📊 The Judith gas field contains a prospective resource of two TCF p50, with at least one TCF of recoverable gas.
  • 🏙️ The dynamic modeling suggests production of over 100 million cubic feet per day for 25 years.
  • 🗓️ Emperor Energy has applied for an extension on their drill date and expects a response from NOPTA by late November.
  • 🌿 The environmental plan is set to be submitted early in 2024, with approval expected in the second quarter of 2024.
  • 💬 Potential partners are interested but are waiting for the extension approval and environmental approval.
  • 📉 Recent analyses have confirmed four movable gas zones and better permeabilities, enhancing potential flow rates.
  • 🔄 Gas is seen as a transition energy source to complement the shift to renewables and reduce CO2 emissions.
  • 🌟 Emperor Energy is also exploring a gold mining project to generate regular cash flow and support company operations.
  • 📈 The company assures shareholders that the gas business remains the primary focus while the gold project serves as a supplementary income source.

Q & A

  • What is the main focus of Emperor Energy according to the update?

    -Emperor Energy remains focused on the Judith gas project in VIC/P47 exploration area, which is located next to the Exxon Mobil system and the Oris gas plant.

  • How significant is the Judith gasfield in terms of prospective resources?

    -The Judith gasfield within Emperor Energy's permit contains two TCF (trillion cubic feet) of P50 prospective resources, which is considered a huge resource.

  • What is the potential lifespan of the Judith gasfield if it were to supply gas to a marketplace like Melbourne?

    -Based on dynamic modeling and new seismic data, the Judith gasfield could supply over 100 million cubic feet per day for 25 years.

  • What is the current status of the application for an extension on the drill date with the National Offshore Petroleum Titles Administrator (NOPTA)?

    -Emperor Energy has submitted an application to extend the primary term of their permit, and they have provided additional information as requested by NOPTA. They are awaiting a response expected in late November.

  • What is the timeline for the environmental plan approval process?

    -Emperor Energy expects to finalize the environmental plan and submit it to NOPSA early in 2024, with approval expected in the second quarter of 2024.

  • What are the key milestones that potential partners are looking for from Emperor Energy?

    -Potential partners are looking for the extension of the permit duration and existing approval to drill the well, as well as answers to questions about the quality of the gas-bearing formations and the accuracy of the AVO interpretations.

  • What steps has Emperor Energy taken to address questions about the gas quality and AVO interpretations?

    -Emperor Energy has engaged Steve Adams to review the petrophysics, confirming movable gas zones and better permeability ranges. They are also working on calibrating the AVO response against Steve Adams' work with another consultant.

  • How does Emperor Energy's gas project fit into the broader energy transition towards renewables by 2050?

    -The gas project is seen as a transition energy source that complements East Coast Australia's move towards renewables by providing firming capacity, which is essential due to the variability of solar and wind energy.

  • What is the Bonding project and how does it relate to Emperor Energy's strategy?

    -The Bonding project is a gold mining play that Emperor Energy is considering to generate cash flow and provide regular income, allowing the company to continue its operations without relying on regular capital raises.

  • Why is Emperor Energy considering a mining project in addition to its gas business?

    -Emperor Energy is looking to diversify its income sources without distracting from its core gas business. The gold mining project is seen as a way to generate regular income to support the company's ongoing operations and development.

Outlines

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📈 Emperor Energy's Focus on Judith Gas Project

K and Phil, directors of Emperor Energy, discuss the company's ongoing commitment to the Judith gas project in Victoria, P47. Located adjacent to Exxon Mobile's infrastructure and the Oris gas plant, the project is a significant focus for the company. The Judith gasfield holds a substantial 2 TCF p50 prospective resource, which is a considerable amount, with the potential to supply the East Coast market for up to 25 years at a rate of over 100 million feet per day. The company is also working on extending their permit with Notta, submitting an application for more time to finalize environmental plans and commence drilling. They are confident about the permit extension and await a response by late November.

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🌱 Environmental Approvals and Partner Discussions

The conversation continues with the environmental plan development for Emperor Energy's gas project, which has been in progress for over a year. The plan was nearly finalized in 2022, but additional stakeholder consultations are required due to a force majeure event. The company aims to restart these consultations and submit the application to NOPSA in early 2024, expecting environmental approval by the second quarter of the same year. Discussions with potential partners are ongoing, with the extension of the permit duration and the drilling approval being key milestones. The company has also addressed questions regarding the quality of the gas and the accuracy of their AVO interpretations, engaging experts to provide reassurance and data to potential partners.

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🏭 Diversifying with a Gold Mining Project

Emperor Energy is exploring a new venture in gold mining to complement its gas business and generate regular income. The company has identified three overlapping gold mining leases with a history of gold extraction. Although the site has not been explored extensively, the company sees potential in this untouched asset and plans to conduct drilling to ascertain mining areas and grades. The goal is to establish a contract mining operation with nearby processing facilities to produce a steady cash flow. This initiative is intended to support the company's ongoing operations without relying on continuous capital raises, aligning with the company's strategy to maintain and grow its presence in the energy sector.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Emperor Energy

Emperor Energy is the company being discussed in the video. It is an energy company with a focus on gas exploration and production. The video script mentions that it is directed by K. Dumbrell and Phil McNamar, who provide updates on the company's activities. The company's focus on gas exploration is central to the video's theme of energy development and environmental responsibility.

💡Judith Gas

The Judith Gas field is a significant exploration area for Emperor Energy, located in Victoria, P47. It is mentioned as the main focus of the company's operations, with the potential to supply a substantial amount of gas to the East Coast market. The script refers to it as a 'huge resource' and discusses its prospective resource in terms of recoverable gas.

💡TCF (Trillion Cubic Feet)

TCF stands for Trillion Cubic Feet, a unit of measurement used to quantify the volume of natural gas reserves. In the script, it is used to describe the size of the Judith gas field's prospective resource, indicating that the field contains two TCF of p50 prospective resource, which is a significant amount in the context of energy resources.

💡Resource Recovery

Resource recovery refers to the process of extracting and utilizing natural resources, such as gas, from the earth. The script mentions that there is a 'full TCF of recoverable gas' in the Judith gas field, highlighting the potential economic and energy value of the resource.

💡Environmental Plan Approval

Environmental Plan Approval is a regulatory process required for projects like gas exploration to ensure they comply with environmental standards. The script discusses the company's application for an extension on their drill date to complete this approval process, emphasizing the company's commitment to responsible energy development.

💡Force Majeure Event

A force majeure event refers to unforeseen circumstances that prevent a party from fulfilling a contract. In the script, it is mentioned as the reason for extending the stakeholder consultation time required for the environmental approval of the gas project, indicating a disruption in the project timeline.

💡Potential Partners

Potential partners are entities that may collaborate with a company on a project. The script discusses Emperor Energy's conversations with potential partners who are interested in the company's gas exploration projects, highlighting the importance of securing support and investment for the company's ventures.

💡Petrophysics

Petrophysics is the study of the physical properties of rocks, particularly in the context of hydrocarbon exploration. The script mentions a review of petrophysics conducted by Steve Adams, which confirmed the presence of movable gas zones and provided a better understanding of permeability in the Judith gas field.

💡AVO (Amplitude Variation with Offset)

AVO refers to Amplitude Variation with Offset, a seismic interpretation technique used in hydrocarbon exploration to identify potential reservoirs. The script discusses the calibration of AVO responses to confirm the quality of the gas-bearing formations in the Judith gas field, showing the company's use of advanced techniques for exploration.

💡Renewable Energy

Renewable energy sources, such as solar and wind, are energy systems that replenish naturally and are sustainable over time. The script discusses the role of gas as a transition energy source to support the move towards renewable energy by 2050, emphasizing the need for firming capacity to support the variability of renewable energy sources.

💡Gold Mining Leases

Gold mining leases are legal agreements that grant rights to mine for gold on a specific area. The script mentions Emperor Energy's acquisition of three overlapping gold mining leases as a way to generate cash flow and provide regular income for the company, illustrating the company's diversification strategy beyond gas exploration.

Highlights

Emperor Energy remains focused on the Judith gas project in VIC/P47 exploration firm.

The Judith gasfield contains two TCF p50 prospective resources, a significant find.

The gas from Judith could supply the East Coast market for over 25 years.

Emperor Energy has applied for an extension on their drill date with Notta.

Application for permit extension is based on a force majeure event and is progressing well.

Environmental plan approval is expected in the second quarter of 2024.

Potential partners are interested in the project, seeking certainty on permit extension and environmental approval.

Steve Adams' review confirmed movable gas zones and improved permeability in the Judith gasfield.

Calibration of AVO response against Adams' work is underway to address potential partner inquiries.

Gas from the Judith project is seen as a transition energy source, supporting the move to renewables by 2050.

Renewable energy requires firming capacity, which gas-fired generation can provide.

Emperor Energy announced a mining play with three gold mining leases.

The gold mining project aims to generate cash flow and provide regular income for the company.

The gold mining project is a mining list, not an exploration permit, indicating existing gold deposits.

Emperor Energy plans to move towards a contract mining operation for the gold project.

The gold project is intended to complement the gas business, not distract from it.

Emperor Energy encourages shareholders with questions to reach out directly.

Transcripts

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good afternoon everyone my name is k

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dumbrell I'm a director of Emperor

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energy and today I'm with fellow

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director Phil mcnamar it's Friday the

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20th of October hey Phil and we'd like

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to provide you an update on the

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announcements we've made this week and

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what it means for your company so Phil

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is gas still the main play for Emperor

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energy absolutely K Emperor energy

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remains totally focused on the Judith

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gas in vic

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p47 exploration firm it's located bass

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straight right next to the Exon Mobile

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system uh right next to uh the orus gas

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plant 40 km offshore from Oris gas plant

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yeah it remains our

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focus and we we continue to to work on

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that project yep excellent how big is

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the project

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Phil the jewi gasfield within Emperor

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Energy's permit contains two TCF p50

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prospective resource that's a huge

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Resource as as it was once said to me

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you only find one TCF in your life as a

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perspective resource of two we feel

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there's definitely a full TCF of uh

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recoverable gas to be recovered and and

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and put into the East Coast mark from

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the Judith gasv and how long would that

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last in that Marketplace let's say a

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city like

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Melbourne the dynamic modeling that's

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been done based on all the analysis and

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the new seismic data we've got and all

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the information and the work that's been

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done says we could continue to reduce

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over 100 million feet per day there for

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25 years yeah a significant PL like it

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sounds Mission critical to the change in

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the dynamic of energy in the east

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coast yes the Oris gas plant is is 68

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million cubic feet per day we see Judith

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as being a scale up from that and make a

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significance difference significant

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difference to what's happening in the

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East Coast Gas group yes so at the

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moment we've also announced that we've

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been dealing with notter we've applied

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for an extension on our drill date how's

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that going at the moment

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Phil we put an application into into

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notta to extend the primary term of our

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permit to give us more time to uh

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complete our environmental plan approval

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and more time to then drill the well uh

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we have been we have a confirmed valid

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application from

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not all on

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time and we have then been requested to

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supply further information in relation

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to the application and that has been

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completed and provided to not at the

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back end of September so that's going

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well the application is based on a force

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measure event that is extended out the

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stakeholder consultation time required

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to make to put a valid application into

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toop SIM for the environmental approval

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y and and no's advice was to put the

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application forward on the basis of that

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on the on the basis of the force majure

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event so we're quite confident about

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seeing this whole permit extension being

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approved when for another two years and

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when would you feel we'd get a response

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from notta on the

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extension notta's guidelines indicate a

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period of time between six and 8 weeks

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from completion of

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application to the time that notto

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complete their review make

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recommendations to the Joint Authority

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who are delegates of the ministers both

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federal and

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state

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and allow time for The Joint authority

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to then make their final decision so we

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see with the application completed and

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the additional information supplied in

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late September we see

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the response from

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notta occurring in late November okay

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well that's excellent so that'll take us

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back to our environmental plan that

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we've been working on over the last 12

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months when do you think we'd finalize

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that environmental

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plan so the environmental plan was

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developed through

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2022 and at the back end of well third

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quarter of and in the fourth quarter of

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2022 we started to kick off our

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stakeholder consultation process and

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then the force majure event

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uh which changed the requirements for

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stakeholder consultation occur so we

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have a completed application ready to go

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but we have to get back and complete the

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stakeholder

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consultation so our strategy now is to

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get an approval from notta to extend the

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permit duration permit life life and

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once that's in place we will restart our

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stakeholder consultation process with a

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view to then submitting our application

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to nopsa early in 2024

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we expect from that submission date

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through to getting approval including

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time for providing additional

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information to Nota as they request it

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we see approval occurring in the second

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quarter of 2024 that is approval an

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environmental approval to draw the world

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that's excellent yeah um as far as

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partners concerned like that they' want

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to know certainty on the not to approval

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wouldn't they but where are we at with

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conversations with potential partners

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we're in conversation with potential

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Partners they obviously want to see the

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extension of the permit duration and

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they obviously be more comfortable with

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dealing with a well that has an existing

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approval to be drilled so they are the

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the two key approval milestones for us

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moving forward y they've also asked us

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some questions which we've made ASX

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releases about and and the two key

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questions that have been

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asked about the the quality of the gas

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bearing formations and the Jud gasfield

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and about the calibration or the

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accuracy of our Avo interpretations

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amplitude variation with offset of the

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seismic yeah so we engaged Steve Adams

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to carry out a review of the

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petrophysics he's very well

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respected he has confirmed our previous

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understanding of where that we have four

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movable gas zones in the in the Judith

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one well that was drilled in 1989 by

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shell and he's confirmed the gas

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saturations that we had previous

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interpretation of in his analysis

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however he has come back with a far

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better perme range of permeabilities

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than what we previously understood and

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that that's a gamechanging situation a

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gamechanging piece of analysis because

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it totally reates the flow rate

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potential flow rate of uh the appraisal

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well that we plan to drill and any

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potential production Wells like drilled

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later on so that's a very positive

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outcome we're taking that back to

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potential Farm in partners and at the

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same time we've had had some more work

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done to calibrate the Avo response

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against Steve Adams work and that's been

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done by another well respected

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individual consultant who has developed

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a technique to to overcome the fact that

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we don't have a full wve Sonic W from

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the original 1989 well he's developed a

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technique to uh to deal with that and

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we're seeing some good initial responses

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from him so that's taken a little bit

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longer than we expected to complete that

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work but we uh we will be looking to put

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an announcement out to the market quite

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soon about that once again we' taking

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that information back to potential

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farming Partners to answer the two big

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questions is the is the formation the

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gas bearing formation quality good

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enough and do you have a calibration on

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the seismic Ava amplitude response we

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believe both of those questions are

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being answered with very very good data

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yeah that's excellent so gas is a

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transition energy into the whole move by

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2050 to Renewables it sounds like the

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timeline of Em's project turning on is

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really critical for that transition and

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will complement East Coast Australia's

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transition into Renewables but at the

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same time significantly reducing CO2 is

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that right Phil like is that where you

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said renewable energy needs firming

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capacity there's no doubt about that

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there is a natural variability in solar

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and wind renewable energy yeah hydro

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hydro capacity is wood firing capacity

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the snowy mountains Snowy Mountains 2

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system was obviously you know got a

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major delay occurring but apart from

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that separate from that renewable energy

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needs firming capacity to back it up and

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at the moment that firming capacity in

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Victoria and New South Wales is coming

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out of coal COI power stations it's

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black coal in New South Wales but even

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worse and that is brown call in

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Victoria so it's quite logical that is

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that as renewable energy capacity

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increases it's quite logical to make the

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transition from Brown coal in Victoria

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to gasi generation to firm up the

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renewable Supply gasi generation can be

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ramped up and down very very quickly and

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it's the perfect way to firm renewable

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energy so we we see that Victoria is

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going to have to going to have to move

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towards a level of gas fire generation

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that firms up Renewables and by doing

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that by doing that and shutting down the

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brown coal industry there would be a

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major Improvement in total CO2 missions

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y so this week Phil we've announced a

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mining play can you quickly just tell us

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a little bit about this bonding

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project

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the gas business that we're in is is a

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it's a long-term it's a long-term play

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and what we've been looking for as you

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all know what we've been looking for in

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this company is how to generate some

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cash flow that underpins the company and

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provides regular income and keeps the

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company rolling forward without having

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to rely on regular Capital raises for

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day-to-day expenses of staying listed

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and being in business

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Y and across this year 2023 we've looked

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for opportunities we've engaged with

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some people we've looked for something

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that would fit and what we

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found three three gold mining leases

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they're overlapping they've been

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integrated they've been privately held

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for more than 30 years and we know

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there's gold there there are there's

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historic workings we've been to site

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we've looked there are historic workings

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where there are records of gold being

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extracted there are old exploration

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results old old assay results carried

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you know from from exploration work that

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was done in the early 1980s yeah we know

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there's gold on the site now we see that

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this is an untouched gold

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asset There's an opportunity here to buy

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it at a price that we see reasonable

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within the capability of the company at

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this point in time and I want to

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reiterate it is a mining list it's not

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an exploration permit so we need to then

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do some drilling firm up areas where we

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would start to mine and understand what

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the grades will would be and then move

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towards a contract mining operation with

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a Contract Processing of the gold of the

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gold ore at a nearby Mill 60 to 80

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kilometers away in the in the Charis

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to's

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region we we see the opportunity to move

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towards that sort

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of Swing produce operation that can give

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us some generate cash for us on a

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regular basis each year now it would be

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very much focusing on smaller scale high

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grade generating cash it's not a

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distraction away from the gold business

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it's purely a way for us at Emperor

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energy to generate some regular income

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for the company yeah yeah and that's the

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main point of the video today to

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everyone out there in conclusion we're

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here to basically say that we we're not

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moving away from gas and right now the

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company share prices at a place where

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anybody who was to participate in on

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Market or off Market transactions would

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likely do very well so EMP is not

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changing it's just complimenting what

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it's doing in the gas play with a small

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gold mine and it's a mining project and

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I'd say to anybody out there that if you

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have any questions like pick the phone

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up and call us but thanks so much Phil

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today I just wanted to give the sholders

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an update and um you've got all your

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details so thank you very

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much thank you car

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end that pH

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