The Paradox Of Female Competition

Summary

This script delves into the nature of male and female competition, highlighting how men are overtly competitive due to reproductive needs, while women engage in subtle, covert competition, often through reputational damage. It explores the paradox of women's in-group preference, suggesting that collective action benefits all women, whereas individual competition arises in smaller social settings. The speaker challenges the conventional view of women as non-competitive, offering insights from evolutionary psychology to explain their competitive behaviors.

Takeaways

• 🏆 Men are inherently competitive due to evolutionary pressures to stand out and be noticed, which is linked to their reproductive viability.
• 🎮 The competitiveness of men is evident in various domains, including sports, video games, and the workplace, and is often overt and easily observable.
• 🤔 Contrary to common belief, women are also competitive but tend to exhibit this trait in more covert and subtle ways, particularly in intrasexual competition among themselves.
• 👥 Women's competitive strategies often involve damaging the reputation of other women to elevate their own status within social circles, which is crucial for their social bonds and alliances.
• 🤝 Women are more cooperative and collective at a macro level, showing in-group preference and supporting collective actions that benefit all women, such as breast cancer awareness and educational initiatives.
• 👩‍🏫 Female competition is nuanced; it can involve playing down achievements to avoid standing out and inciting a sense of equality among women, which contrasts with men's desire to be recognized for their accomplishments.
• 🧐 The paradox of female competition is that while women compete against each other at an individual level, they also show a preference for women over men in broader social contexts, possibly due to a collective understanding of shared benefits.
• 🏛 Women's concern for resources and status is rooted in their reproductive strategies, as these factors are crucial for the successful raising of offspring, which is why they may be more focused on equality in resource distribution.
• 🤔 The script suggests that women's competitive behaviors are driven by deep-seated psychological needs related to reproduction and social standing, which are different from those of men.
• 🏡 The concept of 'human doings' is used to describe men's need to be active and achieve to be noticed, while women are seen as 'human beings' whose social connections and reputations are key to their social standing.
• 🔍 The discussion highlights the complexity of gender dynamics, suggesting that competition and cooperation are not mutually exclusive and can manifest differently based on the social context and scale.

Q & A

Why do men compete according to the script?

Men compete due to both enjoyment and necessity, stemming from reproductive needs. They need to stand out and make a presence to be noticed by women, ensuring their reproductive viability.

What is the term used in the script to describe men's competitive nature in relation to their existence?

The term used is 'human doings,' implying that men must be active and competitive to be recognized and exist in a social and reproductive context.

Why is male competition often more noticeable than female competition?

Male competition is more overt and observable because it involves standing out and achieving noticeable success, which is important for their reproductive success.

What does the script suggest about women's competitiveness?

The script suggests that women are competitive but in more covert and subtle ways, often involving social and reputational strategies rather than direct competition.

How does the script describe the difference between men's and women's competitive strategies?

Men are described as overtly competitive, seeking to stand out, while women are covert, engaging in more subtle forms of competition such as reputational damage or playing down their achievements.

What is 'reputational damage' as mentioned in the script?

Reputational damage refers to the act of lowering another woman's social status by spreading negative information about her, which can affect her social alliances and desirability.

Why might a woman play down her achievements according to the script?

A woman might play down her achievements to avoid standing out too much and to prevent creating inequality among women, which can lead to social tension and a desire to tear her down.

What is the paradox of female competition discussed in the script?

The paradox is that while women compete against each other at an individual level, they also show a preference for women over men at a collective or group level, suggesting a collective support for women's interests.

How does the script explain women's in-group preference?

The script explains that at a collective level, women benefit from supporting each other because it leads to an equal distribution of resources and opportunities, which is advantageous for all women.

What is the script's perspective on the effectiveness of collective action by women?

The script suggests that collective action by women has been highly effective, leading to significant achievements and improvements in women's status and resources, unlike attempts by men to organize along male identity.

How does the script address the seeming contradiction between women's individual competition and collective support?

The script proposes that at an individual level, competition is driven by resource concerns and status, while at a collective level, cooperation benefits all women by ensuring equal access to resources and opportunities.

Outlines

00:00

🏆 Male Competition and Reproductive Needs

The first paragraph discusses the competitive nature of men, highlighting that competition is deeply rooted in men's desire to stand out and be noticed by women for reproductive viability. It contrasts the overt competitiveness of men with the covert strategies of women, suggesting that women are competitive in subtler ways, often through social and reputational means. The paragraph also touches on the idea that men are seen as 'human doings', needing to prove their worth through actions, while women are considered 'human beings' with different reproductive strategies.

05:00

👭 Female Competition: Covert and Social

This paragraph delves into the covert nature of female competition, suggesting that women compete by damaging the reputations of other women to elevate their own status. It explains that women are more concerned with social bonds and alliances, and by lowering another woman's reputation, they can enhance their own social standing. The paragraph provides an example of how a woman might subtly express concern for a friend while simultaneously spreading damaging information about her, thus engaging in intrasexual competition.

10:02

🤔 The Paradox of Female In-Group Preference

The third paragraph explores the paradox of female competition, where women compete against each other at an individual level but also show a preference for women over men in a collective sense. It discusses studies that suggest women have an in-group preference and questions how this can be reconciled with their competitive behaviors. The paragraph speculates on the psychological and evolutionary reasons behind this paradox, suggesting that at a macro level, women may cooperate to ensure equal distribution of resources and status.

15:02

🌐 Collective Action and the Macroscopic View of Female Competition

The final paragraph addresses the seeming contradiction between women's in-group preference at a collective level and their competitive behaviors at an individual level. It argues that at a macroscopic level, women benefit from collective action, which can lead to advancements in areas such as health awareness and educational opportunities. The paragraph suggests that this collective benefit outweighs individual competition, thus resolving the paradox. It also contrasts the success of women's collective initiatives with the failure of similar attempts by men, attributing the difference to the reproductive value placed on women.

Keywords

💡Competition

Competition refers to the act of striving to gain or win something by defeating or establishing superiority over others. In the video, it is discussed as a fundamental aspect of male behavior, driven by reproductive needs and the desire to stand out. The script mentions how men compete in various domains, such as athletics, video games, and the workplace, to make a presence and be noticed by women.

💡Reproductive Needs

Reproductive needs are the biological drives related to the propagation of one's genes. The video script suggests that male competition is derivative of these needs, as men must stand out to be noticed by women for potential mating opportunities. It contrasts this with women, who are portrayed as having different reproductive strategies that may not require the same level of overt competition.

💡Covert Competition

Covert competition is a subtle and less obvious form of rivalry. The script explains that while men are overtly competitive, women engage in covert competition, which is not immediately apparent to casual observers. This concept is central to the discussion of how women may compete in less direct ways, such as through reputational damage or by playing down their achievements.

💡Reputational Damage

Reputational damage involves harming someone's reputation, often through spreading negative information about them. The video describes this as a common tactic in female intrasexual competition, where one woman might subtly tarnish another's image to elevate her own status by comparison, thus gaining an advantage in social standing.

💡Intrasex Competition

Intrasex competition refers to rivalry within a sex, where individuals of the same gender compete against each other for resources, mates, or social status. The script discusses this as a more covert and subtle form of competition among women, in contrast to the more overt competition seen among men.

💡Collectivistic

Collectivistic describes a cultural or individual tendency to prioritize group goals over individual goals. The video suggests that women, on average, are more collectivistic, which aligns with their tendency to engage in collective action for the benefit of all women, such as in the establishment of women's organizations or awareness campaigns.

💡Intersexual Competition

Intersexual competition is the rivalry between individuals of different sexes, often for the attention or approval of the opposite sex. The script touches on this concept when discussing how men and women may compete against each other, but the main focus is on intrasexual competition and its dynamics.

💡Resource Distribution

Resource distribution refers to how resources are shared or allocated among members of a group or society. The video implies that women are more concerned with equitable resource distribution, which may drive their competitive behaviors to ensure no one woman gains significantly more than others.

💡In-Group Preference

In-group preference is the tendency to favor members of one's own group over those from different groups. The script discusses a paradox where women, despite competing at an individual level, also display a preference for their own gender at a collective level, supporting initiatives that benefit women as a whole.

💡Paradox

A paradox is a statement or scenario that seems self-contradictory or logically absurd, but may express a possible truth. The video uses the term to describe the seeming contradiction between women's competitive behaviors at an individual level and their collective support for each other, which the speaker attempts to resolve through the lens of evolutionary psychology.

💡Evolutionary Psychology

Evolutionary psychology is a field of psychology that examines the influence of evolution on human psychology and behavior. The script references this field as the source of insights into why women are competitive in covert ways and how their behaviors relate to reproductive success and resource acquisition.

Highlights

Men are inherently competitive due to their reproductive needs, aiming to stand out and make a presence for women to notice them.

The term 'men' or 'human doings' reflects the societal expectation for men to constantly prove their worth through actions.

Female competition is often covert and subtle, contrasting with the overt nature of male competition.

Evolutionary psychology suggests that women are competitive, but in less obvious ways.

Women's competitive strategies often involve damaging the reputation of other women to elevate their own status.

Intrasexual competition among women focuses on dragging others down rather than standing out.

Reputational damage is a common tactic in female competition, where women subtly tarnish the image of their peers.

Women are more concerned with resource distribution and equality among themselves due to their biological and reproductive needs.

Female competition paradoxically involves both tearing each other down and showing a preference for women over men in collective settings.

Collective action by women benefits all women, as seen in initiatives like breast cancer awareness and educational boosts.

The paradox of female competition can be resolved by understanding the difference between individual and collective levels of interaction.

Women's in-group preference is beneficial at a macroscopic level, where individual differences are less relevant.

At the individual level, women may engage in competitive behaviors to maintain a level playing field among their peers.

The speaker speculates on the psychological and perceptual factors that contribute to the seeming contradiction in female competition.

The paradox is not a direct focus in academic circles, and the speaker offers a unique perspective on this social dynamic.

The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding the nuances of competition among women in both small and large groups.

The video concludes with a call to action for viewers to engage with the content and support the channel.

Transcripts

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it's absolutely no secret that men

compete and are competitive men compete

in athletic competitions they compete in

video games and they compete in the

workplace as well

one could say that men enjoy competing

on the one hand but also for lack of a

better option they're forced to compete

because male competition is ultimately

derivative of reproductive needs men

need to stand out they need to make a

presence for themselves so someone I

women notice them otherwise they're not

reproductively viable otherwise they are

not apparent as beans or rather as

doings because if you're not doing

something as a man you basically don't

exist hence the term men or human doings

and women are human beings but yes men

are very competitive and in addition to

that male competition is very obvious

even to the most casual of observers is

why people routinely people not in the

know people who don't care about these

topics will still be able to observe and

state that men are competitive to the

point where they will also state that

men are more competitive than women it's

obvious you can just see it it's overt

so no mystery there matter competitive

everyone acknowledges it and it's pretty

obvious but what about women women it is

purported are not competitive women it

is believed

are cooperative and social and they

don't like competition well not so fast

there

there has been a growing body of

literature in Psychology specifically

evolutionary psychology that is in fact

uncovered that women in reality are

competitive they are just not

competitive in obvious ways and this is

a recurrent theme if you think about it

that many of the differences between men

and women besides the obvious physical

biological differences are themes of

covert versus overt I women are covert

in what they do so it's not obvious to

the Casual Observer what it is they're

up to versus men who are very overt in

what they do whether it's competition or

otherwise now as I stated prior it's

kind of obvious why men need to stand

out men are human doings and if you're

not doing something you're not signing

out I you do in order to compete in

order that you might be able to

reproduce at some point in time the

future at least technically that's how

it works as a rule but as women are

human beings and not human doings their

deeds are a lot less relevant although

it depends on the type of deed

admittedly when it comes to reproductive

success a woman can simply look good

smile be relatively nice and that's more

than sufficient no one's expecting of

her that she earned a ton of money that

she achieves status on her own men as

rules simply don't care about that

nearly as much as women do and so

women's reproductive strategies are

quite different obviously and due to

obvious biological differences and needs

it makes sense so how do women compete

well typically they compete in a covert

subtler fashion and the competition is a

lot less about standing out and beating

other people but rather to be perfectly

blunt dragging other people specifically

other women down so specifically right

now we're talking about intro sexual

competition so competition between women

as opposed to intersexual competition

competition between the Sexes and women

of course engage in competition but it's

just not the same type of competition so

reputational damage is a very common one

you might have heard about this by now

it's pretty common knowledge in the

manosphere I would imagine though given

what the manosphere has become maybe

it's not maybe they don't even care

about that but yes reputational damage

how does a woman compete against another

woman she elevates herself by lowering

the relative status of the woman the

eyes of the many not just of men but in

the eyes of other women because women

are very dependent on social connections

and social bonds and social alliances if

you lower or damage the reputation of

Another Woman She's going to be seen in

the eyes of many people as lessers

Unworthy of social Association not just

by men although that's obviously a quote

unquote positive effect for the woman in

question who's engaging in this Behavior

but also for female friends who are

potential allies and people who might be

able to help her out with things now as

I've intimated female competition is

more subtle it's more covert so what

would a woman do in order to damage the

reputation of a fellow female well

sometimes it's pretty intricate so think

about an example such as the following

one where ostensibly the woman is

expressing concern for her friend she

might say something like Jill's been

sleeping around a lot of guys and I'm

really worried about it I'm worried that

she might end up hurting herself and she

might not be able to cope with that I'm

really worried about her so this woman

in this example makes it public

knowledge that Jill is engaging in lots

of copulation with many different

partners thus ruining her reputation

subtly because people are now aware that

she's engaged in this type of behavior

but on the other hand it seems like

she's concerned I'm so worried about

Jill she's such a good friend

I'm worried that she's going to

emotionally damage herself she shouldn't

be sleeping with those 20 guys in one

month or what have you now sometimes

this can just be dramatic confection

that does happen

and many people point this out I'm not

the first one but it's really difficult

to disprove your body count right it's

difficult to prove in public that look

you didn't actually have sex with 20

different guys in one month so that's

one way in which they do these sorts of

things and another way women compete in

terms of intersectional competition

isn't how they attempt to appear demure

and not stick out very much because one

thing we'll get into it a bit women

don't like is inequality amongst women

so a woman who does really well in

academic environment will play down her

achievements frequently certainly more

frequently than men who she doesn't want

to stand out there's nothing to be

gained again standing out for a man at

least a positive sense in terms of

achievement accomplishment etc etc

that's good people look up to him even

other men will look up to him that John

did a really good job on that report I

wish we had more colleagues like him at

work but with women it's a little bit

different because when women Peak above

the Horizon amongst each other there's

almost an instinct to tear them down and

to bring them back to Baseline because

this all goes back to the sense of

resource concern women are far more

concerned with resources than men are

yes men obviously are conservative

resources in the sense of they want to

acquire resources they need to in order

to be reproductively effective in most

cases but

it's not a deep-seated psychological

need I mean why are women in terms of

reproduction so obsessed with finances

and Status there's a reason the know

instinctively they need resources for

the raising and rearing of Offspring and

the problem in say an ancestral

environment at least hypothetically is

that there might not be enough resources

to go around so intra-sexual competition

ensues and they need to make sure that

the other women are getting as many

resources as they are or at the very

least the resources are being

distributed equally and this is probably

ultimately the reason why for example

women don't like women bosses because a

women Boss by definition is a woman with

more Power Authority status and

consequently resources compare to her

female underlings notice women don't

have an issue with mailboxes because

that's actually seen as a positive thing

at least on sun level because men are

meant to stand out with their resources

to show off their status derived Goods

to women but no such benefit exists in

the case of women women don't benefit

from doing that either with regards to

men that they might be interested in or

their quote unquote female friends and

allies so women are very competitive

between each other in different ways

than men are it's all about keeping the

playing field level it's all about

sutley if need be ruining the

reputations of others and dragging women

either back to baseline or below

Baseline and usually that's how women

compete there are other examples but

those are some of the most outstanding

ones but here's where we encounter this

Paradox right the Paradox of female

competition now there was one study 2004

Rutgers I think talked about this a

number of times on the channel years ago

that talks about female in group

preference now I think there are a few

studies of replicated since but it seems

kind of obvious anecdotally as well so

there is some decent evidence for it

women have an in-group preference and

Men also prefer women over other men

that's the Paradox here that we're

trying to unravel and solve on the one

hand women compete against each other

they tear each other down they tend to

strive to damage each other's

reputations in certain social contexts

but they also prefer women over men as

quote unquote human beings as as persons

as it were

how does one explain this how does one

resolved this well I think it comes down

to something

not so subtle the question of female

competition intersexual competition

is one of individual competition when

you de-individuate groups

and they become sprawling masses you're

no longer in direct competition with

them so if you're talking about a

population of 10 million it does Jane no

good to say that Jill has copulated with

20 men in one month what benefit does

she have from it nobody knows who Jill

is in this case it's just a bunch of

statistics

that's useful of course in an intimate

ancestral setting with a few dozen

individuals because everyone presumably

would know the equivalent of Jill and

what she's been doing and she is then

effectively drive through the mud

whether or not she's actually the

perpetrator of 20 acts of copulation

with different men or not but at the

macro scale it's kind of useless

so this is hypothetical now and

speculative because Frankly Speaking no

one has really researched this as a

contrast so I have to engage my own

Noggin here but what I think has

happened is at the individual level

women could be quite competitive like I

said it's all about quote unquote

equality and keeping the playing field

level for women they're very concerned

about status this has been replicated in

a lot of studies they're much more

worried about other women getting nicer

cars nicer homes whatever because that

corresponds to status and then they

worry about that very very concerned

about this stuff and they engage in

these types of behaviors reputational

damage they tend to be like I said

demure and try to play down their

achievements because they do not want to

be overly apparent in how they stand out

and it makes perfect sense but what

happens when you de-individuate women

well you get a whole different story for

a number of reasons one reason as I just

mentioned is it doesn't serve any

interest if you are reputationally

damaging an individual woman in a group

of millions or tens of millions of women

nobody cares but also going back to the

point of quality we all know that women

on average are more collectivistic than

men and they're more concerned with

quote unquote equality than them this

makes sense because all things being

equal and egalitarian society one would

think is more likely to have an equal

distribution of resources

where nobody really stands out but

nobody Falls below the Baseline either

and that ultimately is probably a better

scenario for most women which is why

they tend to be more collectivistic it

all goes back to reproductive drives

needs and requirements so

at the collective level

or with individuals they don't know it's

very different

at the collective level the game is we

need to keep a Level Playing Field in

general

and what happens then as a result is a

kind of unilateral support for women so

think about all the things that have

happened throughout the 20th century

that were spearheaded by women's

initiatives collectively as a group

versus basically nothing

and I do mean nothing by way of

comparison for men every attempt to

organize men along the lines of male

identity has essentially failed there

have been a few futile attempts fathers

rights groups etc etc but they all

flounder spectacularly because nobody

cares men are quote unquote less

valuable than women are in a

reproductive sense you know sperm cheap

eggs expensive everything's derived from

that there you go but think of all the

things that women have collectively

achieved now I'm not saying the achieves

on their own men granted them these

things by bending the knee to the whims

and wishes of women collectively but now

the National Organization of Women an

organization that organizes itself along

the lines of female identity and female

interest breast cancer awareness there's

no such thing as prostate cancer whereas

at least not in popular media and

culture sure you might see an ad here

and there you might hear something about

oh urologists urge you to get your

prostate checked out every now and then

especially as you get older but nothing

and I do nothing along the lines of

breast cancer awareness think about

marathons Run for the sake of women's

breast cancer Etc et cetera so all these

things and all these forces converging

on propping up women making sure they

get the best deal possible collectively

why because every woman in that scenario

benefits

not the individual level in an office

setting with a colleague or a female

boss it's very different

or a neighborhood where Jane likes Bob

but Jill is screwing around with Bob and

Bob likes Jill but Bob doesn't know

about Jill's Cardinal activity he's very

different in that case Jane benefits

from knocking down Jill a Peg and it

might actually make her more appealing

to Bob because Bob might find out oh wow

she's been sleeping around a lot and I

thought we were an exclusive thing very

different so the Paradox can be resolved

in the sense that collectively and

macroscopically we're talking about

Nations now it doesn't make any sense

for women to not cooperate because

whether women overtly support something

like now or breast cancer awareness or

any of the other dozens of things that

have been implemented for the sake of

women better scholarships educational

boosts etc etc every female in that

setting benefits there doesn't need to

be a competition there because the goods

and the benefits have been collectivized

universally on every level for all of

womankind

and therefore no woman loses out hence

female ingrue preference it is

exclusively beneficial at the

macroscopic and de-individuated level

for women at the individual level in a

neighborhood in an office in ancestral

Community it's very different because

then differences in resource

availability and so on and so forth can

lead to starkly different outcomes which

will affect individual women in those

smaller settings women on some

extinctional level understand that by

engaging Collective action every one of

them benefits no one really loses out

but then on the more microscopic level

they also instinctively realize that

that's not the case and a lot of it just

comes down to psychology perception and

what have you like Susie down the block

her husband earns three hundred thousand

dollars more than Mary's husband and he

also has a nicer house and car and they

go on more holidays than she does that's

a perception thing Susie's quality of

life in this case might not actually be

bad at all might be fantastic maybe

Iran's been known as 400 000 it's just

that

the other husband of The Other Woman

earns in this case seven hundred

thousand so a lot of the subjectivity

comes into play perception

but it needed to be an actual Paradox or

contradiction between women's in-group

preference collectively as a group when

everyone is de-individuated versus the

individual situation smaller settings

where the kind of female competition I

talked about really comes to the fore

and it becomes quite pronounced at times

and this is something that as far as I'm

aware never has been directly addressed

in academic circles namely the seeming

contradiction why women favor each other

and engage in in-group preference when

it comes to large groups but on the

individual level rarely display this at

all this is my attempt to solve this

problem this is my whack at it again I'm

not a professional academic and some of

this is speculative make of that what

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