“We Are In WW3”: The Shocking Truth About US Proxy Warfare in the Middle East and Ukraine

Summary

Kevork Al-Macion, founder of Syriana Analysis, discusses the ongoing conflicts in Syria amid global focus on Ukraine. He details a recent attack on a convoy carrying Iranian weapons, highlighting the U.S. and Israel's roles in Syria and Iran. Al-Macion emphasizes the impact of U.S. sanctions on Syria, the occupation of Syrian oil and wheat fields by American forces, and the geopolitical maneuvers involving Israel and Russia. He also touches on Turkey's shifting stance towards reconciliation with Syria, driven by economic challenges and regional stability concerns, and warns of escalating tensions leading to a broader conflict.

Takeaways

• 👀 All eyes have been on Ukraine, causing attention to be diverted from Syria.
• ⚔️ Syria remains a proxy war battleground for the US and Russia.
• 📉 The Syrian conflict has been somewhat frozen due to the war in Ukraine.
• 💣 A recent strike hit a convoy carrying Iranian weapons into Syria.
• 💵 The US launched a regime change war in Syria in 2011, which was highly costly.
• 🛡️ Plan B after the failed regime change included imposing sanctions, occupying Syrian resources, and controlling border crossings.
• 🇮🇷 Convoys from Iran are often targeted, containing humanitarian aid rather than just weapons.
• 🇮🇱 Recent Israeli strikes in Syria and Iran may have US support, aiming to pressure allies in a larger geopolitical conflict.
• 🌍 The US is pushing its allies to choose sides in the conflict with Russia and potentially with China.
• 🛢️ Turkey is reconciling with Syria, driven by economic needs and regional stability concerns.

Q & A

What is the current situation in Syria in relation to the Ukraine conflict?

The Syrian conflict has been somewhat frozen due to the intensity and importance of the conflict in Ukraine for both Russia and the United States.

What was the recent deadly attack in Syria involving a convoy carrying Iranian weapons?

There was a strike on a convoy carrying Iranian weapons into Syria, but the attack footage did not show typical explosions associated with weapons. Instead, medical equipment and milk were seen, highlighting the humanitarian aspect of the convoy.

What is the significance of the altana's border crossing between Syria and its neighboring countries?

The altana's border crossing connects Syria to Jordan and Iraq. It's significant because the U.S. and Israel have conducted strikes there to disrupt the flow of humanitarian aid and other supplies from Iran and Iraq into Syria.

What was Operation Timber Sycamore?

Operation Timber Sycamore was a covert operation launched by the United States in 2011 aimed at regime change in Syria. It was one of the costliest covert operations in CIA history, involving significant financial contributions from Saudi Arabia.

How have sanctions impacted Syria?

The U.S. has imposed severe sanctions on Syria, which restrict the country's ability to purchase basic necessities like medicine and food, further exacerbating the humanitarian crisis.

What are the three pillars of the U.S. 'Plan B' in Syria after the failure of the regime change war?

The three pillars are: (1) imposing sanctions, (2) occupying Syrian oil and wheat fields, and (3) controlling border crossings to disrupt trade and aid from Iran and Iraq.

What role has Israel played in the conflict in Syria and Iran?

Israel has conducted numerous airstrikes in Syria, often targeting what they claim are Iranian-linked groups or weapons convoys. Recent strikes are believed to have been greenlighted by the U.S. to pressure Israel into taking a clear stance on the Ukraine conflict.

Why is there skepticism about the claims that the convoys targeted by Israel and the U.S. were carrying weapons?

There is skepticism because the aftermath footage of the attacks often shows humanitarian supplies like medical equipment and milk, rather than weapons, suggesting the convoys might not have been primarily for military purposes.

How has Turkey's stance towards Syria changed recently?

Turkey, which initially supported regime change in Syria, is now seeking reconciliation with the Syrian government due to economic hardships, the burden of Syrian refugees, and the desire to push Kurdish militias away from its borders.

What does the future hold for the geopolitical landscape involving Syria, Iran, and the U.S.?

The geopolitical landscape is likely to remain tense, with escalating conflicts in Ukraine possibly prompting more aggressive actions from the U.S. and its allies. There is also a risk of wider-scale war if heavier weaponry is supplied to Ukraine.

Outlines

00:00

🌍 Proxy Wars and Recent Attacks in Syria

Kevork Al-Macion, founder of Syriana Analysis, discusses the ongoing proxy war in Syria amid the global focus on Ukraine. He highlights a recent strike on a convoy carrying Iranian weapons into Syria and provides historical context, mentioning the US's regime change efforts in Syria starting in 2011. He also explains the impact of the US sanctions and the American forces' occupation of Syrian resources, leading to a severe humanitarian crisis.

05:01

🛡️ US and Israeli Strikes: Proxy Conflict Dynamics

Kevork explains how the US and Israel have conducted numerous strikes in Syria since 2011, often targeting Iranian or Iran-linked forces. He questions the legality of Syria's right to purchase weapons for defense and criticizes the logic of these strikes. He suggests that the recent escalation might be driven by US attempts to force Israel to take a clear stance in the conflict between NATO and Russia, potentially leading to closer cooperation between Russia and Iran.

10:03

⚖️ Geopolitical Shifts and Strategic Alliances

Kevork discusses the broader geopolitical implications of the ongoing conflicts, noting the merging interests between Russia and Iran due to US actions. He highlights how countries are being pushed into clear stances, with Israel's hesitance to fully align with Ukraine being pressured by the US. He also points out the unified stance of European countries against Russia and the potential for similar block formations in Asia against China.

15:05

🕊️ Turkey's Changing Role and Regional Stability

The discussion shifts to Turkey's evolving stance. Initially a key player in the regime change war in Syria, Turkey is now seeking reconciliation with Assad due to economic hardships, the refugee crisis, and regional stability needs. Kevork outlines Turkey's strategic interests, including managing Kurdish militias and becoming an energy hub, which necessitate stability and cooperation with Syria. He also mentions the potential future developments based on upcoming elections in Turkey.

Keywords

💡Proxy War

A proxy war is a conflict where two opposing countries or powers support combatants that serve their interests instead of waging war directly. In the video, Syria is described as a site of a proxy war between the United States and Russia, similar to the situation in Ukraine. This context highlights the geopolitical tensions influencing the Syrian conflict.

💡Timber Sycamore

Timber Sycamore was a covert CIA operation to train and arm Syrian rebels to overthrow the Assad regime. The script mentions this operation to underline the extensive involvement and expenditure by the United States in the Syrian conflict, emphasizing the historical context of U.S. actions in Syria.

💡Sanctions

Sanctions are punitive measures imposed by one country against another to restrict trade and official contact. The video discusses U.S. sanctions on Syria, which have severely impacted the country's economy and access to essential goods, illustrating the ongoing economic warfare alongside military actions.

💡Caesar Act

The Caesar Act is U.S. legislation imposing sanctions on the Syrian government and its supporters. Enacted in 2019, it aims to hold the Assad regime accountable for human rights abuses. The video references the Caesar Act to explain the legal framework behind the severe economic sanctions on Syria.

💡Humanitarian Aid

Humanitarian aid refers to material and logistical assistance provided for humanitarian purposes, typically in response to crises. The script mentions the delivery of humanitarian aid from Iran and Iraq to Syria, highlighting the difficulties faced due to sanctions and the strategic importance of these aid convoys.

💡Al-Bukamal

Al-Bukamal is a border town in Syria, crucial for trade and the movement of goods between Syria and Iraq. The video describes a recent attack on a convoy in Al-Bukamal, underscoring the strategic importance of this border crossing and its role in the ongoing conflict.

💡Iran-Backed Groups

Iran-backed groups refer to militias and organizations in Syria supported by Iran, often considered a threat by Israel and the U.S. The video discusses strikes on these groups, reflecting the broader regional power struggle involving Iran's influence in Syria.

💡Israel

Israel is a country in the Middle East that has conducted numerous military strikes in Syria, targeting Iranian and Hezbollah positions. The video details recent Israeli attacks and their implications, highlighting Israel's role and its coordination with the U.S. in regional conflicts.

💡Ehud Barak and Ehud Olmert

Ehud Barak and Ehud Olmert are former Israeli prime ministers. Their memos are referenced in the video to illustrate the history of Israeli-U.S. coordination in military operations in the region, emphasizing the long-standing strategic alliance between the two nations.

💡World War III

World War III refers to a hypothetical global conflict following World War II. The video suggests that current geopolitical tensions and military actions, especially in Ukraine and Syria, could escalate into a larger global conflict, illustrating the severe consequences of the ongoing proxy wars and regional tensions.

Highlights

Kevork Al-Macion discusses the often-overlooked situation in Syria, drawing attention to its ongoing proxy war with Russia.

A recent strike on a convoy carrying Iranian weapons into Syria is analyzed, emphasizing the frozen yet occasionally flaring conflict in Syria post-Ukraine war.

The 2011 regime change war in Syria, covertly initiated by the United States under Operation Timber Sycamore, is highlighted.

The role of Saudi Arabia in attempting to remove President Bashar Assad through significant financial investments is discussed.

The United States' shift in strategy post-2017 under President Trump, moving from direct regime change to imposing sanctions, is explained.

The United States' occupation of Syrian oil and wheat resources, and its impact on the Syrian populace, is covered.

The strategic importance of border crossings between Syria, Jordan, and Iraq is highlighted, including the Albuquamal crossing.

The recent Israeli strike on the Albuquamal border crossing and its implications are discussed, including its impact on humanitarian aid.

The connection between recent drone attacks in Iran and potential Israeli involvement, possibly with American approval, is explored.

The geopolitical implications of escalating conflicts in Syria and Iran, particularly in relation to World War III, are analyzed.

The challenges Syria faces in procuring essential goods, such as medicine and baby milk, due to ongoing sanctions are detailed.

Kevork Al-Macion questions the labeling of Syrian convoys as 'Iran-backed groups' and discusses Syria's right to self-defense.

The role of Turkey in the Syrian conflict, including its shifting stance towards reconciliation with Syria, is examined.

Turkey's internal challenges, such as high inflation and the presence of millions of Syrian refugees, are discussed in the context of its foreign policy.

The potential for Turkey to become an energy hub, contingent on regional stability, is highlighted.

The possibility of wider conflict involving NATO, Russia, and Iran is considered, with implications for global security.

The strategic alignment of countries like Russia, China, and Iran against American policies is discussed.

The influence of historical American and Israeli coordination in regional conflicts is examined.

The potential escalation of the Ukraine conflict with the delivery of tanks and other advanced weapons is analyzed.

The role of European countries in aligning with American policies against Russia is discussed.

The implications of potential escalations in the Ukraine conflict, such as the delivery of F-16s and submarines, are considered.

Transcripts

well all eyes have been on Ukraine and

because of it we forget about what's

happening in Syria but if you remember

Syria is also one of the spots where we

are in a proxy war with Russia here to

give us some insight into what's

happening on that front is kevork

al-macion founder of syriana analysis

kevork welcome to the show thank you so

much for being here lots to talk about

when it comes to what we all you know we

talk so much about Ukraine lots to talk

about going on actually in Syria

um let's start off with this deadly

attack there was recently a strike that

that attacked a convoy carrying Iranian

weapons into Syria can you tell us about

that attack

actually the Serbian conflict has been

frozen especially after the Ukraine war

due to the intensity of the conflict in

Ukraine or the importance for Russia and

for the United States however there are

so many Frozen fronts in Syria sometimes

it gets flared sometimes it is just a

truce what happened actually we have to

put it into proper context in 2011 the

United States launched a regime change

war on Syria it was a covert operation

under the title Timber sycamer according

to the New York Times it was one of the

costliest covered operations in the

history of the CIA the Saudis for

example they asked for two trillion

dollars in order to remove president

bashal Assad in 2013 bandar ban Sultan

Ascot or he is called in the United

States as Banda Bush because he has very

close ties with the Bush family they

failed they have spent over 200 billion

dollars in order to remove Assad through

training and arming the so-called Rebel

groups in Syria who were affiliated with

Al-Qaeda and Isis groups so when the

regime change will fail else Trump ended

the regime change war in 2017 and in

2017 they changed the plan there was a

plan B the plan B had three pillars

number one was sanctions so the United

States imposes Draconian sanctions on

the Syrian people they even banned the

syrians from buying medicine food and

lots of basic necessities from the

outside world they say that these

materials or the food and Medicine are

Exempted from the sanctions but that's

not true because Syria isn't allowed to

make transactions the central bank is

sanctioned and any company that receives

money from Syria it will be sanctioned

according to the Caesar act that was

adopted in 2018. the second pillar is

that the Americans occupy or the

American forces occupy the oil and the

wheat of Syria therefore they wanted to

inflict a heavy pain on the Syrian

people who stood with their government

against this regime change world so they

use the famine as a weapon against the

Syrian people the third which is now are

related to what happened now on the

borders between Iraq and Syria the

United States occupies different border

crossings between Serbia and its

neighboring countries one of them is

altana's border crossing which connects

Syria to Jordan and in Iraq so the

syrians and the Iraqis and the Iranians

opened another border causing because

they want to do trade they want to do

business and also humanitarian Aid that

comes from different countries and this

border crossing is in albuquamal and

this is where exactly when Joe Biden

came in power

the first strike that he authorized was

on this border crossing in albuquamad

and now the Israelis did again similar

strike on this because any material or

any convoys that come from Iran or from

Iraq they are either humanitarian Aid or

their medicine or weapons sometimes

however when we see the footage now up

in the aftermath of this attack on

al-bukamal border crossing I haven't

seen weapon convoys I haven't seen

explosions in the kind in in the type

that they were weapons there there are

so many for example uh masks I have seen

medical equipment medicine and even milk

because I want to say something very

important I have friends now in Syria

they have newborn babies and they cannot

find milk for their newborn babies and

this is due to the sanction so Syria has

has to export sorry import these

products from Iran Iraq and other

friendly countries and this Convoy was

attacked and if I want to relay this

attack to what happened in Iran for

example just I think two days ago there

was another drone attack and a military

facility in Iran and it was a drone

attack and in my estimation this was

Israel who conducted this attack and it

could be from azerbaijani territories

because Azerbaijan is considered an

advanced satellite country for Israel

and other Advanced countries to spy and

Iran so this comes in my opinion after a

green light by the Americans or the

American Administration to Israel to

strike both Syria and Iran in this

regard because for the Americans this is

a very decisive moment we are living

World War III it's still Limited in the

scope in Ukraine but things could go out

of control and if it gets out of control

the Americans want for the Israelis to

uh to choose whether they are with

Russia or with the Americans they cannot

have one feet here and one feet there

they so the Americans are drawing clear

lines if there is a clash between NATO

and and Russia and whose side are you

going to be Israel I give you now the

green light to strike Iran and you have

to see that the Iranians and the

Russians will come together and the

Russians will condemn the attack and

they will increase the cooperation

between the both sides so they will be

more uh like merging of the interest

between the Iranian and the Russian side

and more of merging interest between the

Israelis and the Americans so this is

preparation for

if there is going to be a wider scale of

a war between the United States or NATO

and the Russians

okay so amazing information here and a

lot to break down with this deadly

attack just to kind of go over it the

seven people were killed in this attack

it was a convoy of trucks that were

carrying what they claimed what the the

you know the reports have been carrying

weapons

um and what's interesting about the

reports is that we hear this term over

and over and over again and so maybe you

could clarify this but they say it was a

convoy of iran-backed groups they said

that they were not syrians however they

were non-syrians but they were

iran-backed groups so who were these

people

so every time the United States or

Israel conduct strikes in Syria and

there are hundreds of strikes against

Syria after 2011 they always say those

are either Iranian forces or

iranian-linked forces or groups so we if

if they have a clear information they

should name if it's possible if it's any

Iraqi group or it's a Syrian group so

what's the name of this group that is

Affiliated to Iran and whether they are

affiliated with Iran or not I have to

ask a question is Syria allowed to buy

weapons from Iran or not according to

any local laws or international law

syrians have the right to buy defensive

weapons for example to protect their

airspace against these strikes that is

coming from the Israelis so let's take

this scenario and just an example every

day they are convoys or or planes coming

to Israel into Haifa or in any airports

and they they are delivering weapons

imagine Syria or any other country

bombing the facilities of Israel every

day and claiming that this is is an

American linked airplane or American

link ship that is delivering weapons to

Israel what kind of logic is this every

country has the right to protect its

territory and its sovereignty and Syria

after the war because the so-called

Rebels were linked to Al-Qaeda the first

thing they did after the war they

occupied the air defense systems air

defense bases of Syria and they

destroyed them all so Syria now has a

shortage of air defense systems and

they're trying to buy them whether from

Iran or from from Russia and they have

the right to do so because every week

Israel is bombing Syria whether it's in

Damascus or in Aleppo or in homes and

every time after the bombing of Syrian

facilities they say oh we bombed

iranian-linked groups so who are these

groups sorry right they are they are

definitely sometimes if we if we put if

we calculate how many people died during

these airstrikes there are hundreds of

people and I can assure you 99 of them

are syrians they're not Iranians and

they are not iranian-linked groups your

syrians dying because the syrians are

the ones who are trying to defend their

airspace from these airstrikes coming

from Israel

so let's complicate things a little bit

more

um interesting perspective that you're

kind of so just to be clear before I

move on to Turkey kind of getting into

the mix here are you saying that you

think that the United States or the west

or NATO is sort of behind Israel's

recent attacks in Iran and now in Syria

with the sort of premise of okay do this

and you know we'll let you do this and

then when you or even baiting them into

doing it knowing that it's going to

cause a conflict with Russia and they're

going to have to choose so you think

that United States or NATO is like the

puppet master in this

if we read for example the memos of Ehud

Barak and Ehud almert they all mentioned

several abstracts that they authorized

on Serbia or other players in the region

and every time they had a long phone

conversations with American presidents

and American Security and military

officials they always coordinated with

the Americans when they conducted these

strikes and they always wanted the green

light from the Americans because they

don't want also to be exposed in front

of a retaliation if a retaliation comes

from Iran or from Syria they don't want

to be alone in a confrontation against

these countries therefore I believe this

time is not also it's it's not different

this time this time however the United

States authorized or gave the green

light for the Israelis to strike Iran

inside Iran in exchange for a clear

stance on on the Ukrainian conflict

because the because the Israelis or the

Israeli government their heart is

definitely with with the Ukrainian side

with the American side but at the same

time they have their own calculations in

Serbia they are striking Syria many

times during the month and the Russians

aren't really intervening in this regard

to protect the Skies of Syria but if the

Russians Supply Syria with Advanced Air

Defense systems due to the to the

increasing increase Israeli intervention

in Ukraine then the warplanes the

fighter jets of Israel will be targeted

by Advanced weapon systems and this is a

danger for the Israeli National Security

from their perspective so that's why

Israel didn't want to intervene directly

in Ukraine but now I think the Americans

are pushing their allies look how the

European Union is acting nowadays it's

like it's a one block like all the

countries have one opinion like all the

countries have one National Security

interest as if they don't have their own

interest in this Regard in exception for

Hungary All European countries are

siding with the United States in in the

war on new you in Ukraine and similarly

in China for example in Taiwan we can

see South Korea Japan the Philippines

are all also coming as a one block now

against China in the case if there is

any future

let's say a Chinese attack on on Taiwan

so the Americans are readying for

long-term conflict with with their Force

Russia and China and they want their

allies to have a clear clear stance in

this regard

well it seems you know I'm glad you kind

of brought up uh Taiwan there because it

seems to me that perhaps these strikes

that are happening inside of Iran and

now Syria could potentially be one of

those you know we've been accusing

um with the with the war in Ukraine the

accusation or the worry I should say is

that well if we let this go and we we

see what Russia is doing then China is

going to go after Taiwan this opens up

the door because NATO and the United

States is uh you know focused on this

war in Ukraine and so we would you know

maybe China would take the opportunity

to split them same thing in this regard

it would make me think that perhaps now

some are thinking well the window is

open the op the window of opportunity is

open now that Russia which is the

biggest Ally of Syria and Iran is too

busy engaging in a war with Ukraine

perhaps now is the time to go in and try

to topple Assad and try to topple the

regime in Iran do you think that's a

possibility or do you think this really

is just

um you know trying to okay show who

you're who you're allied with

I think I think uh practically speaking

the United States cannot topple the

Syrian government or the Iranian

government they tried they want to wage

hybrid Warfare against these governments

because they know the direct

confrontation with these countries means

a complete uh a chaos in the entire

middle is the cut off supply lines for

the oil for the gas the entire Gulf

region will be burnt so it's not

something that the Americans can afford

at this moment because the retaliation

will be very big however what's what's

happening is to to bring different

countries into blocks into groupings

into groups and make them move as one

block against the force of the United

States I don't think the Americans are

capable of overthrowing uh any regime

now whether it's in Iran or if it's in

Syria they spend billions and billions

and billions of dollars on a small

country like Syria and they couldn't

overthrow the government there because

there was a popular support and also in

the the support of Russia and Iran so so

increasing intervention of the Americans

in the region are also bringing

different countries on the same side

Luke Iran and Russia they have different

National Security and geopolitical

interests in the Middle East they don't

share the same geopolitical interests

all the time but because of the American

um let's say engineered cudetas and

regime change Wars and trying to

destabilize different countries in the

region these countries are becoming

closer to each other like in the entire

history I haven't seen China and Russia

are on the same page as much as they are

now and this is happening because of

this American let's say

offensive on on on Russia and China

these countries are obliged to come more

and more together otherwise they will

perish individually

so this is where things get weird right

because now turkey so then you bring

turkey into the mix and turkey's a NATO

country uh supposedly allied with the

west and NATO obviously and now they are

actually eyeing reconciliation with

Syria they were once attacking Assad and

now they're actually looking to uh to to

to partner back up in a way I should say

or or you know be friendly and to

recognize that government that kind of

throws a wrench into things what's your

take on that

so turkey was tasked by the United

States turkey and Qatar were tasked by

the United States to lead this regime

change war in Syria were it not for

turkey we have 800 kilometer shared

borders with turkey but not for turkey

not a single multinational jihadis would

have been able to come to Syria so all

these multinational jihadists with tens

of thousands came from a NATO country

where one of the biggest NATO bases are

in southern turkey where they can see

all this influx of the jihadists coming

into Syria so erdogan wanted to play

this role at the beginning he was a good

friend with Assad he turned his back and

Assad okay but after 11 and 12 years

today the inflation in Turkey is over

160 percent 160 percent the economic

situation is very dire there is no

Regional business with the Middle East

because the the direct border with

Serbia is closed and it's occupied by

the Kurdish militias and additionally

you have 3.5 million refugees from Syria

in Turkey so turkey is in dire is a very

difficult situation they want to solve

this with Assad right now because first

they want to return 3.5 million refugees

to Syria with the growing economic let's

say hardship there and also with the

growing negative sentiments towards the

refugees by the Turkish media and by the

ruling government there and two they

want to

solve their issue with Syria in order to

push the Kurdish militias at least 30

kilometers away from the borders for the

Turks it's this is a very important case

they don't want armed Kurdish militias

on the borders that have enmity their

enemies with turkey and third this is

the most important thing Russia promised

Iran that it can become an energy Hub in

the region and in Europe there are new

gas deals between the gas prom and the

Turk stream in order to

extend pipelines from Russia into the

territories of champion from Turkey it

can also go to Europe and into different

countries so if there is a chaos in the

middle is if there is a if your

neighboring country is in a war zone if

you have Kurdish militias on the borders

you're not able to become an energy Hub

you need stability in order to play this

role so the interests of Turkey its

interest is now to make a deal with

Assad and I think before the elections

the foreign Ministers of Syria and

turkey will meet in order to solve this

situation but a meeting between Assad

and erdogan I don't think is possible

right now these syrians are not in hurry

and they're gonna wait after the

elections to see who's going to come to

power in Turkey

interesting

um okay just real quick big picture

overview what does this mean on the

grand stage I mean you've mentioned

we're already in World War Three what do

you predict or what do you see where do

you see all this headed

unfortunately I'm not optimistic I don't

I'm not well trained to see it to see

what's going to happen in the future but

the facts underground indicate that the

NATO side is going to escalate in

Ukraine and the delivery of the tanks

will open the gate for delivering a

harder let's say heavier well they're

talking about f-16s I mean Poland is

talking about showing the missing f-16s

Kim the former ambassador of Ukrainian

German he was kicked out from Germany

for glorifying stepan Bandera who was

one of the perpetrators of the Holocaust

against the Jews during World War II and

and the Ally of Hitler directly and he

was the ambassador of Ukraine in Germany

by the way he's now asking the uh the

Germans to send submarines

there's submarines to to Ukraine and

he's asking for long-range missiles that

means if something like this happens we

are going definitely into World War III

and it's already happening but the scope

will be bigger and I'm not trying to

feel longer but such type of a weapon

maybe if they arrive in in Ukraine it

will definitely lead into World War III

yeah tanks are one thing f-16s

submarines all of these other things are

an entirely different leveling up of the

conflict and I agree with you I do think

that that would absolutely escalate

things to a level that I don't think any

of us are really very comfortable with

kevork you are so fascinating you you

bring us so much Insight thank you so

much for being here uh kavork al-macion

he's an award-winning political

commentator from Syria also the founder

of siriana analysis am I saying that

correctly syriana analysis yes you're

saying it correct

although you work for a long time and I

appreciate your your work really thank

you oh thank you so much thank you