Mothers Fight Social Media Companies for Answers About Son's Deaths
Summary
TLDRこのスクリプトでは、息子たちの自殺に関する謎を解明しようとしている2人の母親、EllenとHollyの物語が描かれています。彼らはソーシャルメディア企業に息子のインターネット履歴を入手し、自殺の原因を突き止めようとしています。Ellenの息子ジュールズは2022年4月に自殺し、Hollyの息子アーチーはその後意識不明になり、4ヶ月後に死亡しました。彼らはソーシャルメディア企業から情報を得られないことに衝撃を受け、子供たちがオンラインで何を見ていたのか、どのようなメッセージが送られていたのかを知りたいと訴えています。彼らは、政府のオンライン安全法案が曖昧で、親には権利が与えられていないことにも抗議しています。彼らはソーシャルメディア企業に責任を負うよう求め、子供たちを守るための対策を強化するべきだと主張しています。
Takeaways
- 👥 このインタビューでは、息子を亡くした2人の母親がソーシャルメディア企業と戦い、息子のインターネット履歴を入手しようとしています。
- 🔍 Ellenの息子Julianは2022年4月に自殺しましたが、その6日前にはArchieという別の少年が意識不明の状態で発見され、4ヶ月後に死亡しました。
- 🏫 EllenはJulianのオフライン履歴を調べましたが、自殺の動機は見つかりませんでした。裁判所も自殺と断定できませんでした。
- 😢 両親は息子が死ぬ直前まで正常だったと述べており、学校でのいじめや問題もなかったとのことです。
- 📱 彼らはソーシャルメディア企業に連絡し、Instagram、Snapchat、TikTokなどのプラットフォームで息子が何を見ていたのか知ろうとしています。
- 🚫 ソーシャルメディア企業はプライバシーの問題として、息子のオンラインデータを公開することを拒否しています。
- 📝 Ellenは請願活動を始め、親が子どものオンラインデータを確認できるように求めていますが、企業からは非協力的な対応を受けています。
- 🤔 両親は自分の子どもがオンライン上で何を見ていたのか知りたいと考えており、それによって子どもの安全を確保したいと語っています。
- 🆕 オンライン安全法が提案されており、裁判所が死亡事件においてソーシャルメディア企業から情報を入手できるようになりますが、親にはその権利がありません。
- 👨👩👧👦 彼らは親が子どものオンラインアクティビティを監視する権利を持つべきだと主張しており、子どもの安全を守るための対策が求められていると述べています。
- 🗣️ この問題に対処するためにはソーシャルメディア企業による責任の認識が必要であり、彼らはコンテンツを管理し親が答えを見つけるのを助ける必要があると結び付けています。
Q & A
EllenとHollyはなぜソーシャルメディア企業と戦っているのですか?
-EllenとHollyは息子のインターネット履歴を取得しようとしており、彼らが何が起こったか、どのように亡くなったかについて答えを得たいと考えています。
Julian Sweeney(Jwes)とArchie Battersbyはどのように亡くなりましたか?
-Julianは2022年4月に自殺しましたが、Archieは意識不明の状態で見つかり、その後4ヶ月で死亡しました。
Ellenはなぜソーシャルメディア企業から息子のオンライン履歴を知りたいと考えていますか?
-Ellenは息子のオフライン履歴を調べたところ、彼が自殺する理由は見つからず、裁判所も自殺と判断できませんでした。オンライン履歴は彼の死に関連する可能性のある唯一の情報源です。
Julianの日常的な状況はどのようなものでしたか?
-Julianは通常通りで、友人と遊んでいて、いじめもされておらず、学校での問題もなく、完全に正常な14歳の少年でした。
ソーシャルメディア企業はなぜ彼らのデータを公開しないと主張していますか?
-ソーシャルメディア企業はプライバシーの問題と、他の子供のプライバシー権を保護する必要性からデータを公開しないと主張しています。
Ellenはソーシャルメディア企業がデータを削除する期間についてどのように述べていますか?
-Ellenは、企業がデータを1年以上保持していることを確認しており、企業はデータの削除期間について明確な方針を持っていないと感じています。
Hollyは自分の息子の死についてどう考えていますか?
-HollyはArchieが無知にも危険なゲームやチャレンジに挑戦した可能性があると考えており、それが彼の死につながったと信じています。
オンライン安全法案が何を提供する予定ですか?
-オンライン安全法案は、死亡の場合には裁判所に企業から情報を得る権限を与える予定ですが、現在は親には権利を与えていません。
EllenとHollyは親が子供のソーシャルメディアの使用状況を知るべきだとどうして考えますか?
-彼らは親が子供の安全を守るため、子供が見ているものや経験するものを知るべきだと考えますが、親が加害者である場合もあることを理解しています。
ソーシャルメディア企業はどのようにして親の関心に対応する予定ですか?
-TikTokは、親が子供のアカウントに関する情報を得るためのサポートを改善する予定だと述べていますが、具体的な方法は明確ではありません。
Ellenはソーシャルメディア企業がデータを公開しない理由についてどう思いますか?
-Ellenは、企業がデータを公開しない理由について不審に思っており、オンラインショッピングサイトが閲覧履歴を公開するのに比べると不透明だと感じています。
Outlines
😢 悲劇を乗り越え、SNS会社の責任を追究
エレンとホリーは、それぞれ息子の自殺や不慮の事故を経験し、SNS会社の責任を追究しています。エレンの息子のジュリアンは2022年4月に自殺し、アーチーはその後意識不明になり、4ヶ月後に死亡しました。両親は、SNSの閲覧履歴を入手して、彼らの息子が何が起こったのかを理解しようとしています。オフラインの行動からは自殺の動機が見つからず、裁判所も自殺と判断できませんでした。エレンは、SNS企業に息子のオンライン履歴を公開するよう求めていますが、プライバシーの問題で却下されています。この問題は、多くの親にとって懸念材料であり、オンライン安全法案が提案されていますが、現時点では親には権利がありません。
🤔 SNSの危険性と親子のコミュニケーションの重要性
エレンとホリーは、SNS上での危険なゲームや挑戦が、彼らの息子が死亡した原因である可能性があると信じています。彼らは、オンラインでの危険性と親子間のコミュニケーションの重要性を強調しています。ロックダウンが終わった後、子どもたちはSNSを通じてストレスを感じており、親は子どもたちがオンラインで何を見ているのかを理解する必要があります。オンライン安全法案は、裁判所が死亡事件においてSNS企業から情報を入手できるようになりましたが、親にはその権利がありません。エレンとホリーは、SNS企業が子どもたちを保護する責任を負うべきだと主張しており、彼らの体験は多くの親に共感を呼んでいます。
📢 SNS企業への訴えと親子のオンライン保護の強化
エレンとホリーは、SNS企業に子どもたちのオンライン履歴を公開するよう訴えています。彼らは、SNS企業が子どもたちを保護する責任を負うべきだと主張しており、オンライン安全法案が親にも権利を付与するよう望んでいます。TikTokからの声明では、法律によりデータを削除する必要があるとされており、エレンはその主張に疑問を持ちます。両親は、SNS企業が子どもたちを保護するためには、より責任を負うべきだと考えており、彼らの体験は多くの親に影響を与えています。
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Keywords
💡ソーシャルメディア
💡自殺
💡オンライン履歴
💡親の権利
💡プライバシー
💡オンラインセキュリティ法案
💡チャレンジ
💡親と子のコミュニケーション
💡アカウントアクセス
💡責任
Highlights
Two mothers, Ellen and Holly, are seeking their sons' internet histories from social media companies to understand the circumstances of their deaths.
Ellen's son Julian Sweeney, known as 'jwes', took his life in April 2022, and Holly's son Archie Battersby was found unconscious and later succumbed to his injuries.
The mothers believe that their sons' online activities might hold answers to their untimely deaths, as there were no offline indicators of distress.
Ellen emphasizes the lack of any bullying or problems at school that could have contributed to Julian's death.
Both mothers are shocked that they do not have the right to access their children's online data after their deaths.
Holly describes the difficulty of moving forward without understanding the circumstances that led to her son's death.
The mothers are advocating for changes in the law to allow parents access to their children's online data in cases of death.
The Online Safety Bill is mentioned, which gives coroners the power to access such information but not parents.
Ellen started a petition to raise awareness and advocate for parents' rights to access their children's online data.
Social media companies' policies on data retention and privacy are questioned, with TikTok's response being highlighted as evasive.
The mothers suggest that social media companies should take more responsibility for the content they host and its impact on children.
A discussion on whether parents should have access to their children's online activities even without a tragic event is introduced.
Holly emphasizes the importance of communication between parents and children regarding their online activities.
The impact of lockdown on children's internet usage and mental health is discussed, with a rise in anxiety cases being noted.
The mothers call for social media companies to be held accountable for the content they allow and the effects on young users.
TikTok's statement is critiqued for its claim of data deletion, which the mothers dispute based on data still present on Julian's phone.
The mothers express their determination to continue their fight for transparency and accountability from social media companies.
Transcripts
United in the most unimaginable
circumstances mothers Ellen room and
Holly Dan are both fighting social media
companies to get hold of their son's
internet histories and a bit to find
answers about what happened and how they
died Ellen's son Julian Sweeney known as
jwes took his life in April 2022 just
six days after Archie Battersby was
found unconscious in separate but
similar circumstances and Archie
succumbed to his injuries four months
later and Joel's Ellen Archie's mom
Holly join us uh now it's um I think for
um our viewers it's so it's so difficult
and so brave for you both to come and
yeah talk about this because I know how
how painful that will be but you're
trying to help others as well as
yourselves to get answers massively and
I think um I think I've always said and
so of you you know that if we can make a
difference to other people then that's
that's what we're here for by sharing I
heard a lovely phrase the other day
turning pain into purpose you know using
our pain to make a difference to
everybody Ellen your son Jules 14 years
old what do you feel you need to know
from the social media companies well
we've searched his offline history and
there was nothing there that has shown
why he might take his life and the
coroner ruled it it wasn't he couldn't
rule it as suicide because he couldn't
prove he was in a suicidal mood so from
our point of view the only thing we
haven't searched is his online history
So when you say his offline history you
mean just his he wasn't bullied there
was nothing at school they didn't have a
problem with a teacher you know there's
nothing has has come out that could have
contributed towards his death and you're
you know you you're a loving mom you
know your son what was he like in the
days weeks before normal really normal I
didn't have one thought that there was a
problem he was absolutely normal in fact
there's a fter on a security camera he's
saying goodbye to a friend and he's
laughing and he'd been playing and there
wasn't one part of from either his
father or I that thought there was a
problem so he's perfectly normal 14y old
he's got friends he's not being bullied
at
school and then you find him
dead I think anybody would assume okay
there's something else going on that I
can't see it and we all know our 14year
olds our teenagers are on social media
all of the time
you then go presumably to the social
media companies and what what was he on
Instagram Snapchat Tik Tok correct yeah
and say could I have a look then at what
he was browsing what he was looking at
perhaps what he was searching for
perhaps any messages that were being
sent and I don't know it's that but he
could have been talk to somebody that
was claiming to be a child that's you
know said the wrong thing he could have
done an online challenge he could have I
don't know and that's the thing I just
don't know but I think as a parent we
should have the right and I was really
shocked that we don't have the right to
see our children's online data as a mom
though I mean didn't you just assume
they would show you I I would I
absolutely I did to me it's actually
it's quite it's quite shocking to to to
find out that they just they wouldn't so
I think I've made thousands aware of
that with my recent petition that people
are going what you don't you can't see
it I was like I I just I don't
understand we're we're responsible for
children he was 14 years old he's a
minor you
why can't I see what who's doing and say
well what did happen you know I I don't
know and and especially in these
circumstances because you know if you
were a um a parent getting in touch with
the social media companies to say um my
15-year-old is not telling me what's
really going on in their life I need to
see their account you can see why the
social media companies would say hang on
privacy issues that do you have
permission but in this case when your
son has lost his life and there was
clearly a question as to what's happened
is it's just it's just baffling and
their reaction feels so so toned deaf so
I had a zoom meeting with Tik Tok the
other week and they said they couldn't
release it because of other children's
privacy rights and I thought well you
can redact other details I don't need to
see who sent what I just need to see
what was there and then they sort of
said well we delete his data after a
year Well it's not always a year well
it's sometimes a year so and I said well
a company your size will have a policy
on when do you delete the data um and he
said oh I need to come back to you and
he sent me the Privacy data which says
we hold it for as long as needed or or
worded like that also I think the the
social media companies argued that they
they keep or delete the data based on
business reasons rather than privacy I
haven't seen that my I was told it was
privacy yeah right um you
believe that Jules saw something that
led to his death do you believe that he
chose to take his own life I don't
understand and how he he took his life
as as well I do not understand why a
normal child who has never presented any
mental health problems would suddenly
end his life unless he was trying
something that went wrong so it's some
kind of game or challenge or that's
my and Holly in the case of your lovely
son you believe the same thing exactly
the same Arie was a very Fearless child
so he would probably be the first to try
something um not being aware of the
danger um that obviously it's led to but
I do believe that he has done again the
same with Ellen though you know we could
be totally wrong you know but it we just
want those
answers of course and for you it's very
hard to to kind of move forward and to
see your sons you know in in proper
context to celebrate their lives if
there is this this terrible uncertainty
I can totally understand why it would
become a compelling need to understand
it's become a Obsession almost that I I
need to know answers and every day we're
hearing of other parents in similar
situations and you think this is wrong
this has to change this is we're not
doing enough to protect our children so
the government the new law the Online
safety bill now gives the coroner the
power to get this
information from the companies in the
case of a death but the bill doesn't
give parents any rights at the moment is
that I think that's correct that's
correct and also we are waiting for
children to die before we can get that
information right that needs to change
now that's interesting because Ed raised
the question about whether parents
should have access to what their
children are looking at you know even if
they haven't experienced the tragedy
that you two moms have had do you still
want that that that the parent you know
if we're concerned that our children are
looking at pranks which we know as
sensible adults could be dangerous think
something has to be in place it's our
job as parents to safeguard our children
so I yeah I believe something should be
in place I think there needs to be more
to safeguard children massively and I
when I set up the petition I said right
you should all have the rights and I
didn't really think that through that
there are some parents that potentially
are the perpetrators and we we need to
protect children from them so that needs
to have a bigger discussion I understand
that but as you know majority of parents
if they knew their children were
struggling and I'm Conta Ed daily by
people saying my my child's struggling
or whatever and I and you know and I
said well could you get your child to go
through and show you the feed and see
what they're looking at and I said my
teenager is not going to show me that um
but uh I would probably if Jules was
alive I'd play dumb parent and say you
know can you show me what you're looking
at and try and get them to interact
because I think you'd see quite you know
easily that they're looking at content
that is not appropriate it gives you a
fundamental question about what these
social media companies are and what
they're providing because they want to
say well you know nothing to do with us
we're just
technology people look people post but
of course that is already true because
they are they're publishing like a
newspaper they are producing something
like a television program but they have
they have huge responsibilities and it
feels as though from your point of view
from parents point of view these
companies don't really face up to how
powerful they are and how you know um
important they are in our kids' lives
and therefore you know it's not
acceptable for them to say nothing to do
with us or you can't see that or just
just stand aside there needs to be some
accountability that you're publishing
this you need to control what's on it um
and you need to help parents find
answers I find it absolutely baffling I
find it baffling unless there's some
other reason that they feel they should
you know or they can't release this
information why would they not release
it I was saying earlier you know if you
went to online shop and you looked at
blue socks green socks and pink socks
and wanted the history of what you
looking at they they give it to you
there's nothing to hide
so why are they not releasing it and
you're suspicious about that reason I am
very yeah and Holly what would you say
to parents you know just terrified about
what their children might be looking at
online and what it might lead to I think
the communication between parents and
children is a huge thing and I think
lockdown has obviously brought in the
internet in our children's life
massively um it's there
outside uh my friend that's a
psychotherapist she said that there's
like 300
like referrals a day for um children
suffering with anxiety um they can't
socialize now because obviously we the
lock down for two years they've lost
those skills haven't they and of course
yes you're right parents might have
carried on working children weren't at
school we don't know what they were
looking at do we but it's also a simple
thing you know being in the in the
playground when you're 11 12 13 could be
quite stressful and the problem with
social media is like you're in the
playground all the time in the 10 at
night our kids are
still comp children that are being
bullied as well you know whereas
obviously we grow up it would end at
school but now it's going home with them
as well there's no exactly I think when
you know you speaking out is going to
put more pressure on the social media
companies and frankly we should hold
their feet to the fire on this I
absolutely agree and take accountabil
yeah take accountability where where
they should as I said the start is hard
what you're doing but it's really really
important hard important it's
emotionally and physically draining but
we are determined to make a difference
yeah um right so let's just find out
what Tik Tok said um their statement
says we do not have information about
what Jules was watching or searching on
Tik Tok because the law requires us to
delete the data now and I have the um uh
longer statement here we do not have
information about what JS was watching
or searching on Tik Tok because the law
requires us like other companies to
delete data unless it is essential to
the business well I looked at J's phone
the other day um which I haven't turned
on for a while and there is data there
from two years ago on one of his
accounts and there's an awful lot of
gray out images that some some of them
are removed but there are some data
there so that's not true there are data
there uh it says we do not have any
further information on his watch or
search history that Dan Ellen has from
his account we're going to look at how
we can sub better to support bereev
parents who wish to access information
about their child's account better
support is a bit of a strange phrase
start to support me change things change
things release the data thank you both
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