Clueless Christian Betrayed By The Bible | Hashim | Sh. Mohammed | Speakers Corner

Summary

In this engaging conversation, participants discuss theological differences between Christianity and Islam, focusing on the Bible's teachings and the nature of Jesus' curse. The debate delves into the authorship of the Gospels, with a particular emphasis on whether the Gospel writers were eyewitnesses. A key point raised is the interpretation of Galatians and the concept of Jesus becoming cursed for humanity. The discussion also highlights differing views on divine inspiration and the authenticity of the Gospels, with one participant questioning the validity of the Christian scriptures based on Islamic beliefs.

Takeaways

• 😀 The conversation revolves around the authorship of the New Testament Gospels and whether the authors were eyewitnesses to Jesus.
• 😀 There is a discussion about whether Luke and Mark were eyewitnesses of Jesus, with a focus on the nature of the accounts in the Bible.
• 😀 The concept of Jesus being 'cursed' is debated, with one side referencing a passage in Galatians to argue that Jesus became a curse for humanity.
• 😀 The concept of curse is contrasted between the Bible and the Quran, with the Quran mentioning that the devil (Shaytan) is cursed, while the Bible mentions Jesus as being cursed in the context of salvation.
• 😀 There is a disagreement over whether a Muslim needs to believe in the Bible's narrative, with one side claiming that the Bible is corrupted and not a source of truth for them.
• 😀 A reference to the Quran’s warning about preaching a gospel contrary to the one originally received from Jesus Christ is introduced as an argument against the Bible's authenticity.
• 😀 One of the participants emphasizes that they don’t need to believe in the Bible's account because they consider it corrupted, but they are quoting it to make a point in the dialogue.
• 😀 The difference between the Bible and other religious texts is highlighted, focusing on the claim that the writers were inspired by the Holy Spirit or the spirit of Jesus.
• 😀 The conversation challenges the idea that the authors of the gospels, such as Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, were divinely inspired to write their accounts of Jesus.
• 😀 There is an exchange about whether the gospels were actually written by the individuals their names are attributed to, with some questioning the authenticity of this claim and the qualifications of the authors like John, who was a fisherman.

Q & A

Who are the authors of the New Testament Gospels?

The authors of the New Testament Gospels are traditionally Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Additionally, the New Testament contains letters attributed to Paul, James, Peter, and Jude.

Did any of the Gospel writers actually see Jesus?

No, none of the Gospel writers (Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John) were direct eyewitnesses of all events in the life of Jesus. For example, Mark and Luke did not personally see Jesus during his lifetime.

Is the account of Jesus' curse in Galatians referring to him as personally cursed?

No, in Galatians 3:13, it says that Jesus 'became a curse' for the salvation of mankind, meaning he took on the curse of sin to redeem others. It doesn't imply that Jesus himself is inherently cursed.

What does it mean when Galatians 3:13 says 'Jesus became a curse'?

The phrase 'Jesus became a curse' refers to Jesus taking on the burden of the curse of sin and death, fulfilling the law and offering redemption to humanity through his sacrifice on the cross.

Does the Bible suggest that Jesus was cursed for all people?

Yes, according to the passage in Galatians, Jesus' sacrifice on the cross is seen as a redemptive act for all people, meaning he became cursed for others to redeem them from the curse of the law.

Why is the question of whether Jesus is cursed significant in this conversation?

The question is significant because it highlights theological differences between Islam and Christianity, where the concept of Jesus being cursed is viewed differently. In Christianity, Jesus' curse is seen as redemptive, while in Islam, Jesus is revered as a prophet and not cursed.

What is the Islamic view of who is cursed according to the Quran?

In Islam, Shaitan (the Devil) is considered cursed in the Quran, rather than Jesus. The conversation contrasts this with the Christian view in which Jesus' crucifixion is described as a redemptive curse.

Why is the difference in Gospel authorship debated among scholars?

The debate stems from the fact that the Gospels are named after apostles, but modern scholars question whether these figures directly authored them, as they were often written by followers or later Christians based on oral traditions.

What is the Christian belief about the inspiration behind the New Testament writings?

Christians believe that the writers of the New Testament, including the Gospels, were inspired by the Holy Spirit, even if they were not direct eyewitnesses to all the events. This belief underpins the theological foundation of the texts.

Is the Gospel according to Jesus found in the Bible?

No, there is no 'Gospel according to Jesus' in the Bible. Instead, there are Gospels attributed to the apostles Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, which are believed to be inspired by Jesus' teachings, but they are not written directly by him.