Nurse Got CORRECTED After Claiming She's NOT Like Other Girls!
Summary
TLDRThe transcript captures a conversation discussing relationship dynamics, particularly focusing on the perceived value and expectations in dating. It delves into the notion that women don't need to 'earn' male attention, unlike men who must 'work' to attract women. The discussion touches on the idea that most men are content with what they can get in relationships, often due to a lack of options. It also explores the perspective that women are attracted to a man's values and potential rather than his financial status. The conversation highlights the complexities of codependency, societal expectations, and the importance of genuine change in relationships.
Takeaways
- π The speaker feels that people often claim to change for their partners but don't truly change themselves.
- π The speaker is in a complicated relationship, being married while having a girlfriend, and is considering divorce.
- π€ There's a discussion about the dynamics of attraction and the idea that men have to 'earn' their value to attract women, whereas women don't.
- π§ The speaker suggests that most men settle for relationships due to a perceived lack of options, implying a sense of privilege among women.
- π The speaker expresses frustration with societal expectations and the pressure on men to be financially successful to attract women.
- π° There's a debate about whether men and women are truly interested in each other's financial status during dating.
- π« The speaker argues that women are attracted to men with certain values and ambitions, rather than just their financial status.
- π€·ββοΈ The speaker acknowledges that there are exceptions to every rule, but emphasizes the importance of generalities in societal norms and expectations.
- π A point is made about the frustration with people who focus on exceptions rather than the majority, which can lead to misrepresentation of societal trends.
- π The speaker talks about the importance of finding a partner who shares similar values and is supportive, rather than focusing solely on material wealth.
- π€ The conversation highlights the complexities and differing perspectives on relationships, values, and societal expectations.
Q & A
What is the main point of discussion in the transcript?
-The transcript revolves around the topic of relationships, specifically discussing the dynamics between men and women, the importance of values over material wealth, and the concept of codependency in relationships.
What does the speaker suggest about the nature of change in relationships?
-The speaker suggests that change for a partner in a relationship is often not genuine if it wasn't present before the relationship. They imply that such changes may not last and could lead to a negative spiral once the relationship ends.
What does the speaker imply about the dating preferences of men and women?
-The speaker implies that men are often in a position where they have to work to attract women, while women do not have to do the same. They suggest that men may be more willing to tolerate less-than-ideal situations due to their perceived lower status or fewer options.
What is the speaker's perspective on the attractiveness of men to women?
-The speaker claims that a significant percentage of men (80-90%) are found unattractive by most women, which means only a small percentage of men are in a position to attract women easily.
How does the speaker describe the situation of a man who is tolerating his partner's infidelity?
-The speaker describes this man as being in a lower-status position, where he may not have many options and thus tolerates the infidelity because he is settling for what he can get.
What does the speaker argue about the expectations of people with higher status?
-The speaker argues that as people gain higher status, their expectations from their partners also increase, which can lead to questions about a partner's job, income, and lifestyle.
What is the speaker's opinion on why some men ask about a woman's job and income?
-The speaker believes that men ask about a woman's job and income to gauge how much time she might have for them and how much they might have to commit to the relationship, rather than being concerned about financial security.
What does the speaker suggest about the speaker's own dating preferences?
-The speaker suggests that they value high standards and are looking for a man who is driven, family-oriented, and ambitious, rather than focusing on financial wealth or status.
How does the speaker respond to the claim that they are different from other women?
-The speaker asserts that they are different because they are not interested in a man's wealth or status but rather in his values, potential, and the support they can provide to help him succeed.
What is the speaker's view on the generalization made about men and women in relationships?
-The speaker argues against focusing on exceptions to the rule, stating that generalizations are necessary for understanding the majority and that they are relevant to most situations.
Outlines
π Codependency and Relationship Dynamics
The first paragraph delves into the complexities of codependency in relationships. It discusses the idea that people often believe they need to change for their partners, but this change is superficial and unsustainable. The conversation shifts to gender dynamics, suggesting that women don't need to 'work' to attract men, whereas men do. It explores the notion that men often tolerate relationships due to their perceived lower status and lack of options. The discussion touches on societal expectations, the rarity of men being attractive to women, and the pressure on men to 'earn' their value. It concludes with a woman's perspective on her own relationship struggles, including thoughts on divorce and the emotional distance she feels from her partner.
π Conversational Challenges and Generalities in Relationships
The second paragraph focuses on the difficulties many men face in maintaining conversations outside of work, often resorting to discussing jobs and income to generate dialogue. It highlights the different motivations behind men and women asking about each other's employment: men inquire to gauge the time commitment and potential support needs, while women are interested in the security aspect. The speaker argues against generalizing based on exceptions, using the analogy of societal structures like Braille and handicapped facilities being designed for the majority. The conversation also touches on the speaker's personal preferences for a partner who values respect and potential for success over wealth.
π The Exceptional Woman and Societal Expectations
In the third paragraph, the discussion centers on the speaker's self-proclaimed uniqueness in not being interested in a man's wealth or status. She emphasizes her desire for a partner with good intentions, drive, family values, and ambition, and her willingness to support him in building a successful future. The conversation becomes contentious as others challenge her claims, pointing out inconsistencies between her words and actions, such as going on dates with wealthy men. The speaker defends herself by stating that she is looking for high values and the potential for success, rather than material wealth, and that she is an exception to societal norms that focus on money and status.
Mindmap
Keywords
π‘Codependency
π‘Attraction
π‘Status
π‘Values
π‘Commitment
π‘Invisibility
π‘Security
π‘Exception
π‘Supportive
π‘Potential
π‘Generalities
Highlights
Discussion on codependency and the idea that change should come from within rather than for a partner.
The notion that men have to work to attract women, while women believe they don't have to work to attract men.
The argument that men in privileged positions can date and marry who they want, unlike others who settle for less.
The claim that most men are not in a position to attract their ideal partner and therefore settle for what they can get.
The statistic that 80-90% of men are found unattractive by most women, leading to a minority of men being in high demand.
The point that women don't have to bring anything to the table to get male attention, unlike men.
A woman's perspective on not wanting to be with a man for his money but rather for his values and potential.
The acknowledgment that some men ask about a woman's job to gauge the level of commitment they might have to provide.
The debate on whether men genuinely care about a woman's income and job status during dating.
The idea that men are often bad conversationalists and may ask about jobs to generate discussion.
The argument that women are attracted to security, while men are more concerned with the time a woman can commit to them.
A woman's confession of being in a marriage where she is considering divorce due to lack of emotional connection.
The discussion on the societal expectation that men should be financially stable and successful.
The claim that most women are not interested in men who are not financially successful.
The assertion that women are often looking for men with money and status, which is a sad reflection of societal values.
The debate on whether it's acceptable to date someone for their money versus dating for love and shared values.
The argument that generalities are important in society and should not be dismissed because of exceptions.
A woman's claim of being different from other women who prioritize money, stating she values respect and potential.
Transcripts
because people are so codependent they
like oh I'm going to change for this
partner yeah or so it's not real change
because if you couldn't get it in the
mud like when before exactly before them
once they get here it's like and you
guys don't work you're going to go back
you're going to basically spiral and
downflow you're missing the point women
don't got to get yeah honestly I just
feel like that's what you're trying to
like like don't have to work to attract
men but men have to work to attract
women you know what I I will agree with
you I will agree with you like think
about it I said get it out of the mud
just for think about it right now in
your situation right you literally have
a girlfriend while you're married yeah
why were you able to pull that off if
you ever asked yourself how am I able to
pull this [Β __Β ] off do you think that
your man has the same amount of options
that you
do realistically the answer is [Β __Β ]
no because because if he did he would
never allow that however most men are in
a privileged position where they're able
to date who they actually want and marry
who they want most men take what they're
given so that's why he's sitting there
tolerating you entertaining another
relationship with a cuz he's of lower
status and he's a and that's most guys
no offense that's where most men fall
they have to take what they can [Β __Β ]
get so that proves my point most men
simply just deal with the cards that
they're dealt don't have to earn their
value to attract men so why don't you
deal with the woman with a bad pass
think about this what was that why don't
you deal with a woman with a bad pass
you take what you can get why don't you
you said or why do you why don't said
some men take what they can get no I'm
saying a majority of men do that because
the sexual access is difficult for most
guys okay like like are you ladies aware
that men find women find like 80 to 90%
of men is unattractive M I'm aware of
that so if most men are found
unattractive by most women that means
only a minority of men are getting girls
correct because it's that 10% that every
every chick is attracted to okay so so
then what about the other 90% what are
they doing they they basically they're
doing what your nigga's doing they're
letting you entertain a girl they're
settling they're dealing with what they
can get because most guys don't have the
privilege and ability to attract who
they really want you guys though don't
have that problem men come to you they
offer you situations you don't have to
bring [Β __Β ] to the table as a female to
get male attention now kind
of be honest guys now are asking you
what you do for a leing if you going to
choose your man or your it wouldn't
matter if you didn't do anything for
trust me does realistically um me and
him are talking about a divorce only
because of just how everything has has
been happening we're just like so you're
you're like over him yeah do it man do I
love him yeah of course but I can't I
don't want to be with him no he said
you're over him mentally that's why you
said she been checked out I'm I'm just
be like yeah I did yeah out yeah and
then going back to you cuz you said men
ask for a job blah blah like yeah I've
been so I've been dating and that's I
hate that yeah of course why not nurse
so that's so explain to me how there's
18-year-olds that are unemployed on
Yachts with multi-millionaires and
billionaires the question like you know
the more the more status that people get
the more that they expect right from the
partner think about this think about
this am I right what do they expect from
the partner then specifically are you
trying to say saying I have been in a
dates with guys that have like Ys and
properties and stuff and they go so what
do you do for living how many are you
doing monthly I'm like do you think they
actually give a [Β __Β ] about that though
that's a qu that's for me as a a woman
that I don't care about what do you have
but your values first honestly honestly
I'm not asking you about what you
valueing asking me I'm asking you as a
woman I had to put that on the table why
why so as a woman that doesn't care too
much about the money that you have but
the values and the things that you can
give me as a man the sopis you come to
me and you asking me how much do you do
what do you do for leaving but he's
asking you does he care about that does
he honestly care about that question
asking so they obviously care no they
asking because they're being nice to you
just try to just conversate with you but
they really don't care I think a woman
hold hold on do you spend money on that
guy I've never spent money on my that's
the whole point it doesn't matter what
you make bro why would you bring that
out no what nice to ask me how much do I
make make how are you doing you're
beautiful
unless no y all right bro I agree with
telling you operate I feel like when it
comes to a man who wants to Mar ladies
ladies ladies ladies let me let me give
you guys some some some advice right
will we ask you what you do for a job or
how much you earn we're only asking it
to figure out okay how much am I going
to have to commit to this girl if
something serious were to actually
happen do I have to support her fully
blah blah blah and here's the thing it's
a sliding scale the hter you are the
less you can make and they won't give a
[Β __Β ] yeah okay that's how it goes right
so when they ask this stuff generally
it's just to start a conversation
because most guys can't talk about
anything outside of work so they're like
what do you do to generate conversation
most men are very bad conversationist so
they have this Con this discussion with
you but if you told them I'm unemployed
they wouldn't give a [Β __Β ] they wouldn't
get up and walk out the date however if
he told you he was unemployed you would
get up and walk out the date and also
guys want to know how much time you have
for them so if you want a job that's
gonna hell hours a week oh she's too
busy for me bro I'm good versus she's
unemployed when they ask for your job
we're doing it for different reasons you
guys ask what do you do because you guys
actually give a [Β __Β ] because women are
attracted to security when we ask it's
how much time will she have for me how
much do I have to commit to this girl
something serious would happen but we're
not looking at it like oh oh man P Bill
she going pay the bills take care me
like we're not looking at it from a
security standpoint like you guys lot of
men nowadays are thinking about it that
way I'm sorry I age you that's what I'm
saying I've been into deep conversation
not only just asking me what I do and
what they're being deep in it do I want
them yeah the on that you got to pay for
do I want a dependent men no no exactly
honestly no I don't exactly are there a
lot of them yes they are that's a m
point cuz those guys are not even
candidates to they're not even dating
candidates these men well I mean we're
speaking in general here yeah but
they're these men are literally
invisible to a majority of women yeah
these are guys that you guys are you
know you go on a coffee date with them
and you find out that they're broke you
ain't talking to them again like that
this is my as long as that sex is good
honestly a woman [Β __Β ] won't even get sex
lot speaking about me I'm not that type
of woman but if the sex is good a woman
will s I'm have to cut you on that
baby for a dude that ain't even worth we
not talking about just Miami love we
talking about in general in general
Miami definitely wants some money smash
a couple times M it won't be serious
though keep it a be some girls are she
going to marry marry that
guy hardly ever probably not but I'm not
saying it doesn't happen that's all I'm
saying is that it does happen all right
then smash there you
go I'm not going to have that one okay
they going smash yeah she brings up like
the exception to the rule and every
every argument of course cuz I but Ru
yeah but that doesn't matter like when
you speak in generalities the exception
doesn't make the rule if if I tell you
you know 99% of the time this happens
it's actually a very low IQ response to
say well in this 1% situation this is
what happens it's like then why say 99%
if it wasn't a big factor there's still
that 1% that's left out it still can be
spoken about because you mentioned 99%
so pertinent to the conversation in
general when we're having a general
conversation why why though because
speak about that 1% because the world is
built on generalities for example why do
we not have Braille all over the place
because most people aren't blind why
does not every building not have
handicapped [Β __Β ] rails because not
everyone has handicap most people can
walk right why do we have like there's a
reason why we have the that we have it's
meant for the greatest common
denominator the the majority that's what
matters there's a reason why when we
vote we don't sit there and be like hm
well you voted for this person let tell
us a little bit about no one gives a
[Β __Β ] it's the majority the majority
rules president gets elected boom that's
just how the world Works everything is
done on generalities it's a very and I'm
not going to knock you for this but it's
a very characteristic to say well
there's exceptions to the rule who cares
that's irrelevant so for the same reason
why we don't have Braille all over the
place cuz most people simply aren't
blind we're not waste our resources and
time putting bra all over the place when
most people can see yeah I mean I get
your point that's like we're at a a
restaurant and there's Roes M and then
there's doubles we want Roes not doubles
who cares about doubles they're both
from Trinidad I know but one's more
important roties what the [Β __Β ] actually
both
are sorry all right
man because by your logic right like
let's just you know what let's just make
a gallon of milk a 100 bucks right right
why don't we have a gallon of milk at
100 bucks because the majority of people
simply can't afford that there's a
minority that doesn't give a [Β __Β ] I'll
pay $100 for a gallon of milk sure but
that's just not how Society works yeah
right we can't frame the way we do
things off of exceptions to the rule
because that that puts everyone else at
a disparity for no reason well I'm an
exception though so I will go for that
how are you an exception I'm different
though I mean when you tell us how
you're different if if you're going to
laugh at me but for me it's more
important how are you laughing I I I
will just beg for respect I am a person
wa wa wait so the thing that makes you
different is that you beg for respect no
no I'm telling you after I talk before I
talk um I'm a person I'm a woman
honestly that I I looked up for high
values for a man that respects me for a
man that is thriven to succeed even
though he probably hasn't succeed yet
he's on the path I will look for the
potential I will look for it I will look
for a man that is caring is maybe it's a
lot of romantic stuff but um I find that
is more appreciated nowadays that you
can't find that too much do you guys
agree with her on her views as far as
like men and what she wants and what's
going on out there do you guys agree
people are very ENT it's wishful
thinking huh yeah no no but I have F man
onlyon I say is wishful thinking is
because that's not the question do you
guys agree with what she generally said
just now so what is she generally saying
that she prefers that you prefer they
don't even know what you said that for
cuz you're
mentioning so what is the IDE on man now
days that he has uh his millionaire that
I'm looking for a sugar daddy that's
what I heard everywhere sugar daddy that
can just but you made the comment that
you're different and you're and you're
the exception so tell us how you're the
exception because of that because I'm
not you you should wear two chains you
can huh you should wear two
chains I'm not I'm not I'm not behind
their money I'm not behind your status
I'm not you can be a regular guy with
good intentions with you know driven to
family willing to take care of ambition
with a good you know mindset and then
I'll help you out to build that whatever
Empire you want to build because I know
the type of woman that I am I'm very
supportive I'm very he's making fun of
me huh so this is what makes you
different yes you're supportive and you
don't care about money like that Etc
yeah and and I'm I'm sad to say no
offense to you guys I don't know you but
the of the women that I've been
surrounded lately are always talking
about money and are always talking about
I need to find a rich man he doesn't
have enough and it's sad to be honest
it's sad that we Bas to as a society are
B you say you went out with a guy that
has real estate properties and Yachts so
you went out with Rich guys
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too you literally said I went out with
guys that have money on Yachts Etc and
they asked me what I do I have G out on
a date that's what I mean yeah so are
you really as different as you claim
what do you mean
am I with him I'm not but you out with
the date with him so it doesn't mean she
was looking for that yeah you were
looking for fun no no no no no no don't
don't change that that means that's not
what she's looking for she him point and
that's not the point the point is that
if he comes with money and he has high
values and he's family oriented why not
I'm not saying that that's my priority
exactly which is different but you gave
him a a big chance though but you went
out with him why not just like other
girls yeah but why not
did do you do you remember how this
conversation started that doesn't make
sense you remember how this conversation
started yes how' it start it started
saying me that I'm Different yes and I'm
an exception to the rule exactly then
you went on to draw on the same things
that every other girl says how what did
I say oh I don't care about money like
that I just care about values I can help
you build blah blah blah yes but just
literally like 11 minutes ago you were
like oh I went out with a guy that has
money and resources say about that and
he asked me how much money I make why
did I say about that ex and then we said
and then we said men don't care about
that no but you went out with him he
didn't have values enough for me he have
the money but you still whatever I went
out on one day to meet him why not
giving them the chance I will get cuz
I've met people that have money that
have high values I've been surrounded by
them none of you that's what I'm trying
to get at here holy you can't say y I'm
just saying it like I just got I just
got had enough I think it's one more
time enough I think it's Rumble time
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