Host's Anti-Ceasefire BS Dismantled Completely During INTENSE Debate

Summary

The transcript discusses media coverage of the US and UK's controversial decision to expand military strikes in Yemen. It criticizes the framing of Yemen's Houthis as irrational actors attacking trade routes without cause. The speakers argue this ignores key context - solidarity for Palestinians facing Israeli violence in Gaza. They condemn the strikes for inflicting immense suffering on Yemeni civilians already facing humanitarian catastrophe. Overall the video challenges Western narratives that rationalize military intervention in Yemen and failures to curb Israeli aggression towards Palestinians.

Takeaways

• 😡 The presenters justify US/UK bombing Yemen by claiming it's to stop Houthi attacks on trade routes, ignoring the context of Israeli violence in Gaza.
• 😤 The presenters imply the Houthis are insincere or irrational, while western powers are legitimate rational actors.
• 🤨 The presenters dismiss comparisons between Israeli bombing of Gaza and U.S./U.K. bombing of Yemen.
• 😠 The guest argues western imperial powers hold others to moral standards they don't apply to themselves.
• 😣 The Israelis appear to have no serious plans for peace with Palestinians, just permanent imprisonment.
• 😫 Decades of U.S. appeasement have emboldened Israeli aggression and rights violations against Palestinians.
• 🤬 The guest condemns U.S. justifications of bombing Yemen while ignoring ongoing humanitarian crisis and civilian deaths in Gaza.
• 😡 U.S. justifies aggression by painting groups like Houthis as irrational terrorists, ignoring history of western imperialism.
• 😠 The Israelis openly insult EU diplomats instead of engaging seriously on peace proposals.
• 😒 The U.S. applies biased logic, justifying Israeli bombing of Gaza while condemning similar Houthi actions.

Q & A

What is the context of the discussion in the video?

The discussion is about the US and UK expanding their attacks on Yemen in response to Houthi rebels disrupting international shipping routes. The attackers argue this is justified while the guest argues it is an overreaction and hypocritical given the humanitarian crisis in Yemen caused in large part by Saudi bombing supported by the US and UK.

What is the justification given by the hosts for the US and UK attacks on Yemen?

The hosts argue the attacks are justified because the Houthis have been disrupting important international shipping routes by holding the area "at ransom." They argue this disruption has cost billions of dollars.

How does the guest counter the hosts' justification?

The guest argues it is hypocritical to bomb one of the poorest countries causing a humanitarian crisis in response to shipping disruptions. She argues the West ignores international law when it's convenient and there are always consequences.

Why does the guest say the Houthis are disrupting shipping?

The guest argues the shipping disruptions are in solidarity with Palestinians against Israel's actions in Gaza. She says the Houthis are showing support for the Palestinian cause and opposing US and Israeli policy in the region.

What argument does the guest make about how the US views conflicts?

The guest argues the US and West view themselves as rational actors while painting Arab groups like the Houthis as irrational. She says this ignores the context and decades of destructive Western foreign policy in the region.

What does the guest say is the root cause of Arab hostility toward Israel and the West?

She argues Arab hostility is completely rational given decades of indiscriminate bombing, military intervention, and enabling of Israel's treatment of Palestinians by the US in the region.

How does the guest characterize Israel's position on Gaza?

The guest says Israel has no interest in peace or Palestinian statehood. She says their real plan is to destroy infrastructure and institutions in Gaza to make life as miserable as possible for Palestinians.

What happened at the meeting between Israel and EU diplomats?

Israel's foreign minister confused EU officials by showing a years-old video about building an artificial island off Gaza's coast. The EU saw this as Israel showing no real interest in peace.

What does the guest say about US responsibility for the conflict?

She blames decades of US support for Israel under multiple presidents for enabling Israel's actions against Palestinians. She says this appeasement has led to the current crisis.

What is the guest's view on sports betting?

The guest says she is anti-betting and thinks the gamification of sports is hollowing everything out. She sees betting as a problematic psychological trap, evidenced by herself and co-host's poor results betting on sports.

Outlines

00:00

😕 Hot Take Discussing Houthi Actions to Support Palestinians and Western Hypocrisy

The first paragraph is a discussion between news anchors about the recent US/UK bombing of Yemen in response to Houthi attacks on trade routes. One anchor argues the bombings are justified to protect trade, while the other points out the hypocrisy of bombing an already devastated country and ignoring the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

05:02

😡 Heated Debate Over Who Bears Moral Responsibility for Civilian Casualties

The second paragraph continues the debate, with one anchor arguing that the same logic used to blame Hamas for Gaza applies to the Houthis in Yemen. The other pushes back, questioning why the West assesses the moral character of militant groups but not its own role in creating the conditions for their emergence.

10:05

😤 Critique of How the West Judges the Sincerity and Rationality of Non-Western Actors

The third paragraph extends the critique of Western hypocrisy, arguing there is an assumption that Western nations are rational actors while non-Western ones like the Houthis are judged based on their sincerity. There is a failure to understand local perspectives on US/Israeli actions in the region.

15:07

🙄 Israel's Artificial 'Solution' for Gaza Highlights Lack of Credible Peace Planning

The fourth paragraph covers Israel's farcical proposal to build an artificial island off Gaza's coast after a meeting with EU diplomats. This empty gesture highlights Israel's disinterest in substantive peace negotiations and their desire to maintain indefinite control over Gaza.

20:08

😪 Recriminations Over Decades of US and UK Appeasement Towards Israel's Occupation of Palestine

The fifth paragraph contains closing reflections on how decades of appeasement by US and UK governments have enabled Israel's apartheid policies and harsh occupation of Palestinian territories.

Keywords

💡Yemen

Yemen is a country in the Middle East that has been embroiled in a civil war since 2014. The script references the ongoing conflict in Yemen and the role of the Houthis, an armed rebel group, in attacking international trade routes. The US and UK have recently expanded attacks on Yemen with the stated goal of stopping Houthi disruption of trade, though their motives are debated.

💡Houthis

The Houthis are an armed rebel group in Yemen fighting against the internationally recognized government. They have been blocking key trade routes in protest of Israel's actions in Gaza. The script debates whether their motives are sincere or opportunistic.

💡Gaza

Gaza is a Palestinian territory under Israeli blockade. The script mentions an ongoing humanitarian crisis and conflict in Gaza as context for understanding the Houthis' actions in Yemen. Their blockade of trade routes is framed as an act of solidarity with Palestinians in Gaza.

💡Trade routes

International trade routes refer to key maritime passages used for shipping and trade. The Houthis have been disrupting and blocking these routes near Yemen. Their actions have impacted the global economy and supply chains.

💡Israel

Israel is criticized in the script for its actions in Gaza that precipitated the conflict with Palestinians. The US and UK's support for Israel is seen as a factor in the Houthis' decision to disrupt trade routes.

💡Ceasefire

A ceasefire refers to a temporary stop in fighting and hostilities between warring parties. The script argues that calling for a ceasefire in Gaza by Israel could potentially lead the Houthis to stop their disruption of trade routes.

💡Bombing

The script refers to the bombing of Yemen by the US and UK in retaliation for the Houthis' actions. However, this military approach is criticized for exacerbating the conflict.

💡United States

The United States, along with the UK, has expanded attacks on Yemen with the goal of stopping Houthi disruption of trade routes. The US position and motives in the Yemen conflict are debated.

💡United Kingdom

Similar to the US, the United Kingdom has increased attacks on Yemen along with calls for the Houthis to agree to a ceasefire. The UK's approach is questioned and criticized.

💡Conflict

The video focuses on analyzing an ongoing violent conflict between multiple parties in the Middle East region, including in Yemen and Gaza. The turmoil results from clashing geopolitical interests.

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Details are provided on the model training process and techniques used to improve accuracy.

Results show the model achieves state-of-the-art performance on facial expression recognition benchmarks.

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The speaker highlights limitations of current facial recognition models and areas for future work.

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The speaker thanks the audience and organizers to conclude the talk.

Transcripts

this is an interesting exchange here on

Sky News don't know who these uh

presenters are they invited on Dr Miriam

Francois I don't really know who she is

a journalist and a filmmaker it was

interesting just to see this play out

because the US and UK now have expanded

their attacks on uh Yemen in an attempt

to um I guess uh debilitate the the

hoties from attacking the uh trade um

uh

roots that uh they've been doing um and

they'll said they'll they will stop when

there's a ceasefire that's what that's

what they're saying publicly so they

could TR us could try that said the

entire time or they could bomb them well

I mean it's the uh the US is all in and

not uh you know if you're not going to

call for a um a ceasefire when you see a

wholesale Slaughter of civilians uh it

would be bad for to do it because of uh

inflationary pressures uh put on uh

international trade routes but the

problem that I think the US and UK

government have is that this is not it

is coupled to a another thing that's

happening that they have influence on

this is you cannot look at the hoties as

attacking trade routes um in a vacuum

because it's not happening in a vacuum

that's what everyone wants you to do but

that that's exactly the point and that's

what's interesting about this is that um

uh these news presenters have a tough

time sort of presenting it in that way

Dr Fran I mean there are many who were

saying that frankly the Biden

Administration should have acted sooner

and faster that hundreds of billions of

dollars uh has been put at risk because

the houthis have held uh this area in

the Red Sea um at Ransom sorry so just

let me get this straight yela so we are

bombing the poorest one of the poorest

countries in the world that has been

under a humanitarian blockade there has

been famine these people have been

decimated and we are bombing them

because a couple of guys in dingies in

support for the Palestinians who are

having a genocide committed against them

they're objecting to that and we're

bombing them come on now I mean this is

just an insane world for us to even

think I'm so sorry your Amazon packages

are delayed I really am like I wish my

came one time but you know genocide guys

genocide there are two mothers a day

dying in Gaza right now it's 109 days

into a conflict in which a humanitarian

crisis has been declared to the world

day in day out by the way by the way Dr

franois there are many who are Yemen

Watchers who are who Monitor and follow

the houthis who say this is doing

wonders for their branding actually that

it isn't just the Palestinian cause that

they're focused on I mean the I have no

doubt that the hooes um and I think you

know everything I've read suggests that

they're having a hard time governing and

that this is um that uh engaging in a

conflict like this uh drives um legitim

National yeah their legitimacy and sort

of nationalism nationalistic fervor um

yes that of course that Dynamic exists

in every time a government launches a

conflict in some fashion um but the

bottom line is like this is all this was

all to be expected the reason why the

Biden Administration moved in uh naval

ships early on was because they knew

this conflict has the ability to expand

and so you have a choice you either roll

with the expansion of that

conflict or you try and um end the

conflict and the Biden Administration

has made their Choice which is we're not

going to try and end the conflict I mean

why does I'm sorry but why does that

give the hotis more legitimacy why it's

not just not stage it's not just that

they're engaging in a war or in a

conflict it's the fact that they're

showing solidarity for the Palestinian

people when you see how other Arab

countries and people in those Nations

feel about Israel's genocide of the

Palestinian people you can understand

why who the houthis domestically might

see it as a prime opportunity for them

to show and thumb their nose at us

Imperial power which I got to I like I I

hate to break it to White British and

American anchors in this country who are

cozy and make millions of dollars but

the United States is not viewed with

much reverence in the region that we

have been indiscriminately bombing for

decades and decades and decades and that

Israel is like a colonial Outpost for

our interests in that region yeah they

don't have a ton of legitimacy there we

don't so the houthi doing this is

actually completely logical even though

it's painted as some sort of like Arab

barbarism it's if this if the genocide

was happening in our backyard to one of

our allies or other people I mean look

at how we responded in solidarity with

sending weapons to people in Ukraine

because Russia is in opposition to us

these are these are this is how

geopolitics works but it but but but

white people get to be rational actors

on the on the international stage and

then brown people or Arab people or

Muslim people they're all irrational the

people that's are supporting the bombing

of theth yeah it is disgusting that you

people are saying well what about the uh

might be inflation or rise and shipping

you know how many people are starving in

Gaza right now million it's it's it's

absolutely disgusting to be called like

Pro terrorist or something like that

kiss my ass I mean uh the let's put it

this

way if the hooes were disrupting uh

international trade routs and we're

firing on civilian

vessels and whether you think they're

sincere or not in there I mean uh which

is just a bizarre way to look at this

whether you think they're sincere or not

if they were doing this in the total

absence of this Israeli assault on Gaza

if there was nothing else going on and

they were doing it because they were

driving uh they're trying to drive their

own sort of like uh public perception uh

the the quality of their public

perception in

Yemen No one would be talking about it

yep if the US was bombing we would be

like wait you we shouldn't be doing this

boom that would be the end of the story

like there would be

nobody the the it would you have a

coalition being able to be built because

the houthis are just acting out for some

reason against uh shipping yeah of

course I mean that's the thing is that

the the the whole point is that the

Biden Administration have completely

open themselves up to this expansion of

this regional conflict because of their

failure to in any

way attempt to reign in Israel because

it is not an attempt to say we're going

we're we're sending a letter to your

manager and we just put To whom it does

concern I mean that is that is the point

uh continue on with

us who are Yemen Watchers who are who

Monitor and follow the houthis who say

this is doing wonders for their branding

actually that it isn't just the

Palestinian cause that they're focused

on so call a ceasefire now and end the

positive branding if you want to stop

the houth doing what they're doing then

call a believe the houth would would

stop doing what they're doing if they

have literally said that that's why

they're doing what they're doing they

have not previously blocked those routes

it real quick you know I'm going can

take it off but like the idea that

America and Britain have the ability to

UM Vet other for sincerity in this sort

of conflict is ludicrous the the the

we State actors that are white and are

powerful or rational um State actors

that are poor and Arab we have to we

have to assess their moral character

yep the reason except this one so yes I

do and I also think the West needs to

start to understand that you cannot just

go around playing Cowboys in the world

there are consequences to your actions

you cannot just go around bombing

people's countries ignoring

international law and expect no

repercussions for every cause there is a

consequence and just because you don't

like a couple of guys trying to

resist are now prescribed terrorists

sure according to Western governments

theying to the Yemen peoples the Saudi

back government which is essentially our

but but the yemenis who live uh you know

under Hy rule talk about the fact that

this group continues to terrorize them

as well that's fan of the houthis apart

from when they're blockading in favor of

a seire which should have been called a

long time ago 55,000 people are dead in

Gaza right now there are over 60,000

people injured with no access to Food

Water Aid how dare we have a

conversation about trade when there are

children right now being treated without

anesthetic there are things that require

us to

make they do have the global economy

Global Market hostage good for

them Bill brother good for them cease

fire now cease fire now we're going to

have to uh leave it uh there that guy

had a great rhetoric but here's the

point is that if you if you are one of

those people who believe

that the uh

responsibility

for

the tens of thousands of Civilian casual

uales uh in Gaza is squarely on Hamas

and not a function of

Israel uh then that same logic makes it

impossible for you to blame the hooes

for

um for the uh them firing on these

civilian vessels I mean the same logic

would make it impossible because of

course the hooes are doing it's in their

best interest to do so that's the

argument right that they're being

opportunist okay great the opportunity

away from the uh if if everything just

runs in such a like there's if there is

no such thing as like a moral

culpability but a happens then B

necessarily has to happen C necessarily

has to happen um then if you're going to

apply that type of

logic to

the wiping out of of like housing and

resources and hospitals and

universities uh and the desecration of

cemeteries in Gaza to Hamas there's no

agency by

Israel how do you not come to the same

conclusion with the hotis why why the ho

why just just think for a second just

have empathy for one second why do you

think the houthis or people in Yemen or

in the Middle East don't like Israel or

the United States why it's actually

incredibly rational because of decades

bombings yeah I mean we're back to that

we are back to that yeah it's not it's

insincere it's all just cuz they hate

the West for our freedoms we're back to

Newsweek post like a week after 911 do

you support the Taliban they're lying

when they alaa you think Pirates care

about Palestinians they're Pirates not

Palestinian lovers instead of looking at

the structural issues of the world's

superpower and the way that we've

conducted ourselves I would like to

spend my time assessing the moral

character of extremist groups or just

like uh militant groups that come up and

crop up because of our actions in the

region like this is the arrogance

honestly of Western Empires and they the

it's it's complexity for us in our

indiscriminate action actions but uh

black and white moral assessments of

terrorism on the other end

and in the end all you are is a racist

all you are wild it's wild to see how

many people even on the nominal

Progressive left the second we start

bombing somebody uh the rationalizations

come out and the path paiz of the left

come out and all of a sudden it's oh

you're not you're not grown up enough to

understand why we are all of a sudden

throwing missiles at another population

instead of just you know giv the

missiles of the Saudis to do it um one

final story uh before we go into the uh

fun half um apparently there was an

Israel EU meeting on uh the future of

Gaza and the Israelis

have I mean it gets reported like they

have no plan for Gaza they seem to have

a plan for Gaza and that is to U make it

as impos life as impossible as it could

possibly be for the Palestinians living

there their plan is to basically level

um uh what is there to get rid of all

the um uh cultural institutions to get

rid of the health

institutions um to get rid of all these

things and maintain either uh military

control by having uh military there or

just again control it in the way that

they've been controlling it as an open

air prison but this point now with this

level of starvation they're they're

exerting the control by um withholding

things like food and water and whatnot

um they uh the EU met with um Israel's

um I guess ambassador to the

EU Joseph barl

fontel the eu's top Diplomat met in

Brussels uh and said that it appeared

that the two sides were having two

different

conversations

um are

PAL by the way of course not European

nations were Resolute that sustainable

lasting peace must include Palestinian

statehood an option that uh Benjamin

Netanyahu of Israel is doubl down on

opposing in recent days Israel's foreign

minister Israel Katz presented to

Europeans a plan involving an artificial

island off a gaza's

coast So the plan after the closed door

meeting with European uh Union ministers

in Brussels I mean I just found this

laughable I feel like it this sort of

stuff feels like it's meant to be

insulting oh it is it is meant to be

like let's just do anything and uh stall

here and just show how feckless everyone

is until they actually decide to get

serious with us and they won't uh at the

closed door meeting with European

ministers in Brussels Mr Katz this is

incidentally from The New York Times

Israel's foreign minister let off left

officials confused when he screened a

video which dates to at least

2017 about a pet proposal of his to

create an artificial island off the

gazen coast he said it could be used to

inspect cargo and passengers arriving by

sea into the territory this is according

to an Israeli official and six European

diplomats and officials familiar with

the meeting afterward Mr Burell said of

the island planned this didn't have much

to do with what we were discussing so

the point is there is no partner for

peace on the Israeli side they show up

and they just do this basically joke

presentation um as a way of basically

telling the

EU go after

yourself we our one

negotiation um we will have our uh you

know prison checkpoint we're going to

build an artificial Island to do

it call it a

gazra it's sort of like Elon Musk can

like actually send them to Mars yeah

exactly right I mean it's our land so

I'm going to seee for the Palestinians

get Peter teal involved I'm I'm just you

know we I thank you for the US

presidents over the past few decades for

your appeasement of this fascist

far-right government I mean you it's not

just Joe Biden and he is genocide Joe

blood on his hands whatever but like

they have led us to this moment the

United States government and and UK

governments collectively you can tell

quite a story about all the I mean

obviously Clinton and but Obama taking

pictures with say and knowing chapter

and verse on the Palestinian struggle

and then uh you know capitulating the

way he did and despite you know

Netanyahu making him uh the big bad

anyway I mean yeah it's

horrible all right we're going to take a

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