НЕПРОШЕДШИЙ ПСИХИАТРА, ОБМАНУТЫЙ ГОСУДАРСТВОМ @dmytrokarpenko

Summary

В захватывающем скрипте видео представлены размышления о сложностях и последствиях участия в военных действиях. Человек, который оказался на передовой и стал пленником, делится своими переживаниями о том, как обманули его о намерениях и целях миссии. Он рассказывает о собственном опыте, о том, как его единица была направлена на минирование и как погибли товарищи. Обсуждаются вопросы мотивации, политических манипуляций и отсутствия понимания нации о реальных целях конфликта. Скрипт подчеркивает трагическую участь участников войны, их разочарование и потерю верности идеалам, за которые они сражались.

Takeaways

• 💰 Участник программы 'Деньги от апостолов' заплатил более 50 миллионов рублей за информацию за 6 месяцев.
• 📢 Он ищет информацию от военнослужащих как с фронта, так и из тыла, от рядовых до старших офицеров.
• 🆘 Нужна информация от Министерства ЧС, сотрудников аэропортов и нефтеперерабатывающих заводов.
• 📲 Предпочтение при общении через WhatsApp, считается безопасным, в отличие от Telegram и электронной почты.
• 🚫 Утверждается, что СМС о контроле ФСБ - это ложь и неправда.
• 👥 Информация проверяется, и не платится заранее.
• 🔍 Интервьюер интересуется деталями жизни и службы участника, включая его мотивации и опыт.
• 💥 Участник был пленен и освобожден, теперь он осуждает действия России на Украине.
• 🗣️ Он выражает боль и разочарование по поводу обмана и несоответствия действительности пропаганды.
• 🌎 Рассматривает ситуацию с китайскими инвесторами и работниками на российской земле.
• 🏳️‍🌈 Выражает уверенность в том, что если бы не украинцы, Россия продолжала бы экспансию и захват территорий.

Q & A

Какой программой занимался Владимир и какие методы оплаты он использовал?

Владимир занимался программой 'Деньги от апостолов', где он платил деньги за информацию. Он использовал различные методы оплаты, включая российские банковские карты, иностранные карты, мобильные телефоны или криптовалюту.

Какую информацию Владимир ищет и от кого?

Владимир ищет информацию от военнослужащих, как с фронта, так и с тыла, от рядовых солдат до старших офицеров. Также он нуждается в информации от Министерства чрезвычайных ситуаций, сотрудников аэропортов и нефтеперерабатывающих заводов.

Какие способы связи предпочитает использовать Владимир?

Владимир предпочитает использовать WhatsApp для коммуникаций, так как он считает его неподверженным слежке. Вторым каналом связи является Telegram, а для 'Староверов' предпочтение отдается электронной почте.

Что Владимир говорит о сообщениях о контроле ФСБ над всем?

Владимир называет такие сообщения ложью и несенсем, утверждая, что это ведут себя ведут в обмане.

Какую информацию Владимир получал от военнослужащего?

Владимир узнал о том, что военнослужащий был нанят на работу в качестве инженера в частной инженерной компании 394, которая базируется в Зеленополе и находится в городе Уссурийск.

Какое образование имеет военнослужащий и почему он не закончил школу?

У военнослужащего образование до девяти классов, он не закончил школу полностью из-за отсутствия возможности для дальнейшего обучения после девяти классов.

Какой была задача военнослужащего на фронте?

Основная задача военнослужащего заключалась в обеспечении безопасности дорожного сообщения, проверки на наличие мин, а также в работе как траншем, помогая расчищать землю для строительства окопов.

Что произошло с военнослужащим перед его пленом?

Военнослужащий и его отряд были отправлены на минирование подхода к окопу, но на следующий день украинцы самостоятельно расчистили мины, что привело к гибели его товарищей.

Какой возраст имеет 'дядя' военнослужащего и чем он занимается?

Военнослужащий относит своего товарищем по возрасту, который ему на 3 года старше и ему 53 года, 'дядя' работает пастухом на государственной ферме за 15 000 рублей в месяц.

Чем занимаются жители приграничных территорий с Китаем и что они думают о жизни?

Жители приграничных территорий работают на китайских фермах в роли рабочих, занимаясь уборкой, посадкой и уборкой овощей. Они выражают удовлетворение тем, что хотят выжить и получать хотя бы минимальный доход для базовых потребностей.

Что Владимир думает о политике России и ее влиянии на обычных людей?

Владимир считает, что обычные люди подвержены манипуляциям и не всегда понимают настоящую политическую ситуацию, в том числе и в отношении войны и ее последствий.

Какие выводы сделал военнослужащий о своей роли и целях своего присутствия на Украине?

Военнослужащий пришел к выводу, что он не должен был быть на Украине и что его присутствие там было неоправданным и бесполезным.

Какие изменения происходят на востоке Украины с точки зрения военнослужащего?

По его словам, восточные регионы Украины, такие как Донецк и Луганск, фактически уже присоединились к России, и жители этих регионов получили российское гражданство.

Какие последствия имеют военные действия для мирных жителей?

Мирные жители, которые не смогли покинуть свои дома из-за военных действий, сталкиваются с проблемами получения медикаментов и гуманитарной помощи, что усугубляет их жизненное положение.

Какие выводы сделал Владимир о роли России на международной арене?

Владимир предположил, что действия России на Украине могут быть связаны с желанием конкуренции с Америкой и расширением территорий.

Что Владимир думает о собственной жизни и обстановке в России?

Он выражает несогласие с тем, что происходит в России, включая манипуляции с информацией и недовольство обычных людей.

Какие выводы Владимир делает о собственной судьбе и судьбе других?

Он понимает, что его собственная судьба и судьба других военнослужащих, которые погибли или были плененными, была напрасной и могла быть избежана.

Какие выводы Владимир делает о политике России в отношении Украины?

Владимир считает, что политика России привела к напрасному кровопролитию и страданиям для обычных людей, и что это было неправильным решением.

Outlines

00:00

💼 Программа 'Деньги от апостолов'

Анонимный источник раскрывает детали своей программы 'Деньги от апостолов', где он платит большие суммы за информацию, включая банковские карты, мобильные телефоны или криптовалюту. Он нуждается в информации от военнослужащих и предоставляет приоритет коммуникации через WhatsApp и Telegram. Также упоминается его личная информация, включая возраст и профессию.

05:00

🎯 Информационные запросы и обмен

Второй параграф описывает конкретные запросы на информацию от военных, от рядовых до офицеров, а также сотрудников министерств, аэропортов и нефтеперерабатывающих заводов. Говорится о проверке информации и отсутствии предоплаты. Источник делится своими личными размышлениями о том, что его мотивом было поиски работы и денег.

10:03

👥 Основы обучения и боевые действия

В третьем параграфе рассказчик описывает период обучения и дальнейшие боевые действия, включая минирование и проверку дорог на мины. Рассказчик делится своими впечатлениями о смерти товарищей и о том, как один из них погиб, защищая его от осколков.

15:05

📞 Поиски связи и обмен информацией с домашними

В четвёртом параграфе рассказчик делится своими попытками связаться с друзьями и семьёй, чтобы узнать об их состоянии и поделиться своёй судьбой. Обсуждается проблема связи и отсутствие возможности связаться с семьёй из-за отдалённости и технических трудностей.

20:12

🌾 Работа на китайских землях

Пятый параграф посвящён работе на землях, принадлежащих китайцам, на российской территории. Говорится о том, что местные жители работают на этих землях, и обсуждается политическая ситуация с присоединением китаянцев к российским землям.

25:19

🗺️ Геополитические размышления и недовольство

В шестом параграфе рассказчик выражает свое недовольство ситуацией, обсуждается вмешательство России на украинской территории и отношение местных жителей. Рассказчик делится своими размышлениями о том, что их присутствие в Украине не оправдано и что они не приносят ничего хорошего для местных жителей.

30:23

🔍 Понимание ошибок и последствий

В седьмом параграфе рассказчик начинает осознавать ошибки своих действий и последствия вмешательства России на украинской территории. Он делится своими размышлениями о том, что их присутствие было неоправданным и что они не должны были быть там.

35:26

🏥 Последствия войны и отсутствие помощи

Восьмой параграф затрагивает тему последствий войны, отсутствия медицинской помощи и гуманитарной поддержки для тех, кто не принял российский паспорт. Рассказчик делится своими размышлениями о том, что местные жители страдают и что их жизнь была разрушена.

Keywords

💡Денег от апостолов

Это название программы, в рамках которой автор платит деньги за информацию. В контексте видео это связано с тем, что автор платил большие суммы за разведывательную информацию в течение шести месяцев. В видео упоминается, что за это время было вложено более 50 миллионов рублей.

💡Разведданные

Разведданные - это информация, собираемая для целей военного или политической разведки. В видео это означает, что автор интересуется информацией от военнослужащих как с передовой линии, так и из тыла, от младших и старших офицеров.

💡Контакт

В видео 'контакт' упоминается в контексте необходимости связи с Министерством чрезвычайных ситуаций, сотрудниками аэропортов и нефтеперерабатывающих заводов. Это подчеркивает важность прямого общения для сбора информации.

💡WhatsApp

В видео WhatsApp упоминается как канал связи, который автор считает приоритетным и более безопасным. Утверждается, что WhatsApp не подслушивается, что подчеркивает его значимость в обмене конфиденциальной информацией.

💡ФСБ

Федеральная служба безопасности (ФСБ) России упоминается в контексте слухов о том, что она контролирует все сообщения, которые приходят на мобильные телефоны. Автор отрицает эту информацию, называя ее ложью и неправдой.

💡Телеграм

Телеграм - это приложение для обмена сообщениями, которое упоминается в видео как второй канал коммуникации после WhatsApp. Это подчеркивает использование различных каналов для обеспечения связи.

💡Разведчик

Разведчик - это специалист, занимающийся сбором разведывательной информации. В видео один из разговористов упоминает о своем опыте работы в качестве разведчика и о том, что его задача заключалась в обеспечении безопасности и проверке дорог на мины.

💡Плен

Плен - это состояние, когда человек находится в захваченном или заключенном положении. В видео один из участников разговора рассматривает свое положение в плену и его последствия, включая отсутствие связности с семьей.

💡Китайцы

В видео упоминается присутствие китайских работников на российской земле, где они владеют территориями и предприятий, на которых работают местные жители. Это подчеркивает экономические и социальные изменения, происходящие в регионе.

💡Дальнобойщики

Дальнобойщики - это люди, которые занимаются доставкой грузов на большие расстояния. В контексте видео упоминается работа дальнобойщиков на государственных фермах, которая является частью местной экономической деятельности.

💡Правительство

Правительство в видео упоминается в контексте обсуждения политики и решений, которые влияют на жизнь людей. Один из разговористов критикует правительство за то, что оно, по его мнению, обманывает людей и отправляет их на ненужные войны.

💡Наемники

Наемники - это военные, работающие не для армии, а для частных компаний или стран. В видео упоминается, что наемники присутствуют в конфликте, что подчеркивает международный аспект событий.

💡Путин

В видео имя Путина упоминается в контексте обсуждения политики и решений, которые, по мнению одного из разговористов, приводят к негативным последствиям. Это связано с обсуждением внутренней и внешней политики России.

💡Контейнеры

Контейнеры в видео упоминается в контексте мест, где военные размещаются и ждут своих очередей. Это подчеркивает условия жизни и службы военнослужащих на фронте.

Highlights

6个月以来，'使徒之钱'计划已支付超过5000万卢布以获取信息。

信息支付方式包括俄罗斯银行卡、外国卡、手机或加密货币。

需要来自前线和后方军事人员的信息，以及紧急情况部、机场员工和炼油厂员工的信息。

优先通过WhatsApp沟通，声称FSB控制一切的短信都是谎言。

信息总是经过验证，不预付任何费用。

讲述者是自愿谈话的，感到许多事情令人痛苦。

讲述者名叫Vladimir，愿意回答任何问题。

讲述者是394独立工程公司的承包商，自愿签约。

讲述者签约的动机是因为村里没有工作和金钱。

讲述者认为自己只会被分配到工程兵团，而不是工兵。

讲述者在Zelenopole接受了两天的排雷训练。

讲述者的任务包括排雷和检查道路安全。

讲述者在战斗中幸存，因为有朋友用身体保护他。

讲述者和他的“祖父”（53岁）被俘虏。

讲述者试图通过朋友联系他的妻子，但未能成功。

讲述者对国家媒体的报道表示怀疑，并感到被欺骗。

讲述者提到俄罗斯人在中国人的温室里工作。

讲述者认为，如果土地被中国人控制，那么实际上土地已经属于中国。

讲述者认为普京可能为了与美国竞争而需要乌克兰的土地。

讲述者最终意识到，他们不需要乌克兰的土地，人们本可以自己生活。

讲述者建议朋友们不要为了金钱而来到乌克兰，因为唯一的可能是死亡。

讲述者认为，只有通过亲身经历，人们才会开始理解在乌克兰发生的事情。

Transcripts

6 months have passed since the launch of my program. The “Money from the Apostle” program

is that I pay money for information. In 6 months I paid out more than 50 million Russian rubles.

I pay directly to Russian bank cards, to foreign cards,

to phones, or in crypto. The methods have been studied and are known; no one has any questions.

I need information from the military directly from the line of contact,

as well as from the military in the rear, from the rank

and file to senior officers. Now there is a need

for information from the Ministry of Emergency Situations, airport employees and refinery employees.

Priority communication via WhatsApp. WhatsApp is not bugged.

The fact that you receive SMS messages on your phones that the FSB controls everything is all lies and nonsense.

The second communication channel is Telegram, email for Old Believers.

Write, I will answer everyone. If the information is interesting, let's talk by voice.

Information is always verified and no money is paid in advance.

Did you volunteer to talk? Yes.

For what? Well, why? A lot of things hurt.

About painful things? Well, of course, about painful things.

Understood. My name is Vladimir. You can ask me some questions of your own.

Do you have any questions before starting the conversation? I don't have any particular questions.

I have. Last name, first name, patronymic, date of birth, where you are from.

Company, platoon, unit.

Separate engineer company 394. What city is it based in?

In Zelenopole.

But in Russia? In Russia there are 90580 units.

Where is this part? This is in the city of Ussuriysk.

Contractor? Yes.

Did you sign the contract voluntarily?

Yes, I signed it voluntarily. Motive?

The engineering part, I signed as an engineer,

the construction, engineering, as a construction battalion I signed. I realized that I signed as a construction battalion engineer.

Motive? For what? Well, why?

There is no work in the village, no money, nothing, they offered to go to serve and

earn money.

Did you sign to earn money? Yes, I signed to make money.

Did you think you were going to clear some mines somewhere or what were you thinking?

I didn’t think that I would end up in the sappers. I thought, the Corps of Engineers,

the article does not allow me to go somewhere,

I have a limitation of liability. What article?

My article in the military book

is 17b and 17c. What's this?

I am partially fit for combat service, but to a limited extent. How much? For what reason?

I didn’t go through psychiatrists.

Haven't you seen a psychiatrist? Yes.

What diagnosis did the psychiatrists make? Well, I don’t know,

it’s military, or mentally retarded, maybe a little bit or something is missing.

What kind of education? To be honest, it’s 6, but everywhere else I write it

as incomplete secondary school.

Are there six classes in total? Yes.

Why didn't you finish the rest? Well, there was no such opportunity, well, in general,

I finished the nine-year school, as is believed, but I didn’t study anywhere else.

When did you mobilize, when did you sign the contract?

from November 1 of that year. 2022 yet?

2023. Where did they take you?

In Zelenopole? Yes, in Zelenopolye, they brought him there right away.

So, what was there? For 2 days we were taught how

to defuse a tank mine or a cumulative weapon with an overhead charge,

that’s all, they didn’t teach us anything else.

Further. Well, that’s it, we constantly went

to one point, to the birch tree, they cleared mines there, controlled the road,

when if there were any arrivals, there were no gaps, our duty was

to walk the road to check for mines.

It's clear. Our whole task was like this.

How long did it last? I only served for a month and a half.

Further. Also trenchmen, blow up trenches to loosen the ground

so that people can dig a trench for themselves. That’s it, that was our whole task;

basically, no other task like this was set.

It's clear. What happened next?

Before the capture, we were sent, I don’t remember the date, January 19th, I think,

they sent us to a point to mine the approach to the trench.

We mined it, threw bombs next to it, the next day

they themselves, the Ukrainians, cleared the mines

themselves, with cassettes, bombs and mortars, and that’s who they killed,

my friend just covered me, and it turned out that

I remained alive. Is he not? But he didn’t, he

completely covered me with his body, he fell on me immediately, and a grenade flew into our dugout, and he died.

How many of you were in the dugout?

There were six of us. Are all five dead? No,

there was one more left, my grandfather was still there, 53 years old. What grandfather is 53 years old?

Well, I already consider him a grandfather.

I'll be 50 in October. And he is already 53, 3 years older anyway.

I see.

And you were taken prisoner? Captured. Yes.

It’s clear, now let’s talk about what’s painful there. How did it hurt?

They say one thing, but when you actually arrive, it’s something completely different.

Is our state deceiving us?

It sends me somewhere I shouldn’t have gone, but ended up somewhere

I shouldn’t have. How does this happen?

They also took us prisoner and forgot about us?

Have you already talked to someone on the phone? With your friend, yes, whom we should call, Gena?

Yes, I did. Well, he probably

has no idea whether you are a prisoner of war,

not a prisoner of war, your status. I told him that I was a prisoner of war,

so that he could tell my wife that I was alive and well.

I would like to contact him again, find out, maybe he can go and get his wife’s number.

Somehow I’ll throw it off so I can talk to my wife.

Did you throw it off or not? No, they gave me 3 minutes.

There is no more opportunity to talk.

Well, he doesn't answer. Drop your wife’s phone number and

I’ll text him, right? I don't know the number, that's what I'm saying.

Well, I'll write to him. But he can’t,

he probably doesn’t understand these phones, he took a touch phone,

he doesn’t understand, he’s used to just using a radiotelephone, but now

they gave him a touch phone, but he still can’t get his head around it. Well, can he answer?

No? I don’t even know,

our connection is sometimes bad there in the village, we are in a hole,

and also under the border with China.

He doesn’t pick up the phone, doesn’t answer, no way, no way, no way.

He won't take it. Won't he take it? Maybe.

There's a time difference, maybe it's night right now? We have a 7 hour difference with Moscow.

Are you plus? We constantly added 7 hours.

It's daytime for you. You have about 4 hours now.

Maybe he’s not even at home, he’s a shepherd himself.

Shepherd? Yes, he grazes horses on a state farm

for 15,000 a month.

15000 per month? Yes. Well, this is not money, count it,

what is it in Russia, 15,000? 15 thousand a month is even in hryvnia, I’ll tell you,

so-so. And your currency is wooden, it is three times smaller.

Well, yes, now because there are no such pastures yet, only

now he is driving out, not driving, this is in the summer,

maybe they will pay 30, under 40, but now 15 thousand. 15 thousand - this is so as not to die. For bread, just for salt, that’s all.

For bread and salt. Yes, his mother also receives a pension, so he lives there.

And so

you have to go and work for the Chinese. Do you work for the Chinese?

Yes, you have to work in greenhouses for the Chinese.

Right in China? No. Here in Russia there are Chinese.

You don’t even go to China to work

for the Chinese, do you already have Chinese? They stand on our land, they have greenhouses,

there are a lot of them there. What locality is this?

This is Primorsky Krai, Oktyabrsky district. Primorsky Territory, Oktyabrsky District,

are there any villages there? The village of Fadeevka, we have them there,

before Ussuriysk and beyond Ussuriysk, there are a lot of them everywhere, plant them,

some have 10, some have 20 greenhouses. So the Russians are already working as laborers there?

Yes, we are already working as laborers for the Chinese.

On your own land? Yes.

Do you know that this is no longer your land? Yes, they are already in schools, they are already saying,

they are reselling them there in China, that the Far East will sooner or later have them.

They have already put it on their maps. Yes, we have already heard, they are already

teaching them this way in schools, already in China,

the Chinese themselves are already saying that sooner or later this will be our land.

You see, what’s the matter, it doesn’t really matter who draws what on their map,

what’s important is that it exists in fact, and in fact, even from your words, it is, in principle, already Chinese.

Well, not Chinese yet.

If there are Chinese there. Well, they pay for the land of Russia.

Well, they pay us and give us income, because the state farms have collapsed.

It doesn’t matter who formally pays whom, what matters is who is the boss on earth.

The owners are still Russian. Where are you masters if you work as laborers for the Chinese?

You have to work somewhere, they also have their own people come, the Chinese do the same,

and they hire Russians for part-time work in greenhouses, picking tomatoes and cucumbers,

weeding something somewhere, harvesting, cleaning everything, cleaning.

Consider it as you wish, this is the case.

What else? Is that all that hurts? A lot of things are already painful, it’s just already

How long can you mock us, ordinary people?

Who is making fun of you? Our state is mocking us,

they sent us to do one thing, but in reality it turns out to be something else.

Sorry, but the whole country believes what

they tell you on TV. Well, the information is said to be the only one we have. We don't know what

's going on here. So what do you want? If they tell you

nonsense all the time on TV. Do you know the Russian word - nonsense, nonsense? They tell you, but you believe in it.

Why are you surprised that when you were told that you would do one thing,

and you do something completely different, if on TV they tell you one thing,

but in reality it is completely different, but you believe in it, and you will come back now, you will believe.

No, I will no longer believe in this, because in reality I have already seen what

is happening here, the war of drones is going on, firstly, and more of ours

are lying on the training ground than citizens of Ukraine, although on our TV

they say the opposite, citizens Ukraine has more dead than ours, the numbers are completely different.

They say that NATO is fighting here in general. They don’t say for NATO here,

that we have NATO, I haven’t heard for that, but the fact that Poland, not Poland, Germany is there, yes.

Poland is not Poland, Germany is not Germany -

these are NATO countries. Well, they only speak for mercenaries.

Yes, have you seen the mercenaries?

I didn't see anyone. Imagine.

For the first time, I just saw how I came across these first eyes,

where we were sent, the first time I saw where they really shoot and kill.

I had never been there before. What are you saying,

there are corpses in the fields, yes, lying? Certainly.

Basically, all of them are ours, you walk, you can say,

you walk on them, you step over them. How many were visually seen in the review of corpses?

I definitely saw about 20-30 people. Is this what you stepped over?

I mean, if you look into the distance.

I didn’t see them in the distance because I wasn’t that close.

Are the corpses fresh or already decomposed? Already swollen, swollen.

Why don't they take them? I don’t know, there’s probably no possibility, because

the birds fly constantly, they shoot at you, there’s no way to come and pick them up,

maybe that’s why they don’t pick them up,

but there are a lot of people waiting for their missing ones. Of course, there are many who are waiting,

I receive 100 letters a day from Russians: help me find it.

Well, we have a village too. The problem is that I'm not looking for anyone,

you come to me yourself. I'm not looking. They think that I’m exactly looking for it,

that I, you know, pressed two buttons - and all the lists of everyone in general, who disappeared where,

who ended up where, and all that. I don't do this, but they can't understand it.

Well, well, you say, you have it there. We have one mother who is also like this.

He hasn’t been able to find a body for six months, he hasn’t been able to achieve anything,

he’s also gone missing. Whose? We were the only ones from the village,

also missing in action, that’s all, no corpse, nothing. Did you already know this before you went?

Yes. And you, well, before you went,

you knew that the mother was looking for her son, no corpse, no body, nothing, you couldn’t

ask: what’s going on here? We do not give out such information.

How should it be given to you? Should the postman come and give

you a package with information? He addresses our authorities to everyone

who should be in charge of this. You did not understand. You know there is a war going on. Yes?

There is not a war going on, but a deterrence of aggression.

This is our policy. They give us one so that we don’t fight.

We just stand, sit in one place and don’t advance anywhere, but restrain aggression,

that’s all. How do they constantly show

that they have advanced there, and you have advanced here? They show Lugansk and

how is it? DPR. And Zaporozhye?

These are the territories. What about the Kupyansk direction?

But I don’t know this, I don’t even know why we only had a conversation about the DPR and Lugansk,

and now we also have a Zaporozhye direction.

Were you in the Zaporozhye direction? Yes.

Have you asked, if you are talking about Donetsk and Lugansk, what does Zaporozhye have to do with it?

I was never interested in this. Look. I'll take turns.

You are going to war, well, they call it containment, not containment, that’s not the point.

You have a mother there who lost her son. I think there are other people who are fighting.

You could take an interest, ask, find out what is happening here

actually, but you don't. Then you come here,

find yourself in the Zaporozhye region, I ask you: what about Zaporozhye,

if Lugansk, Donetsk? I do not know either. I don’t know, I don’t know, I wasn’t interested in anything.

I just signed the contract and went. Although he could have known everything in advance.

But I just signed the contract and went. Well, it turns out

that I just signed and went.

Before that, I was interested in Zaporozhye and the DPR. Nobody knows whether we are standing in Zaporozhye

or behind the DPR, it turns out we are standing on the border.

There is the Donetsk region of Ukraine, there is the Lugansk region of Ukraine, this is all Ukraine.

The Zaporozhye region is Ukraine, and you simply shouldn’t have gone there,

you just can’t understand it at all. You don’t need to go from Russia with machine guns and weapons

to Ukraine to understand where Ukraine is, where Russia is, you open the map and look.

I don’t know, maybe your map has already been redrawn there somehow. No one has redrawn anything yet.

Already redrawn. A year or two ago they had a reform,

they accepted Russian citizenship and

joined the Russian Federation. If they have Russian citizenship, let them go to Russia and live

if they have accepted citizenship.

Does Ussuriysk want to join China? Yes, he probably doesn’t want to.

Why do you think so? By people.

How to say, you can also work for the Chinese for a long time, many people already understand this

.

Many? Yes.

At home, when you speak for Ussuriysk, you speak for many people. And when you speak for the Lugansk and Donetsk regions,

you somehow say that! - and that’s it, as if they wanted everything. Here you are, I don’t know how much,

10,000 km from you to Ukraine?

Nine, probably. You know from 9 thousand km away

that in the Lugansk and Donetsk regions they took everything and wanted it, and accepted

Russian citizenship and wanted to go to Russia. Don't you think that this

might somehow be a little misleading information? Don’t you think that on TV they

could simply show you 100, or 1000, people, or 10,000 people

who really wanted to go to Russia, and the rest, no one wanted to go anywhere,

lived for themselves and lived, you came to them, arranged for them their orders

brought them war to their homes.

We were standing in Zelenopolye, local residents live with us,

there are a lot of local people there, they treated us normally,

welcomingly. How exactly is it greeting?

We were never insulted in any way.

Try insulting a man with a gun. No, without weapons, you can talk to them normally

in good, simple language, Russian, and they are happy

that they joined. That's how I understand them.

Are you glad you joined? Yes, that’s how they put it, one might say that

they are even glad that they became part of Russia. Are you happy?

Yes. Cool. And everyone there stayed at home?

Well, not all. Everyone is peaceful, or maybe

those who stayed are happy, but those who had to leave their homes and

leave are no longer happy? There are not many vacant houses there; the village is mostly empty.

Well, there are few young people, of course, and some of them are already reaching retirement age.

That's exactly what it is. Gauleiter Lazurny, Kherson region.

Well, it’s not all that different, I’ll play it for you to listen to.

An official document has been issued stating that medical drugs purchased

from the budget of the Russian Federation will not be issued to foreign citizens, that is, citizens of Ukraine,

first of all this applies to insulin drugs, which have already experienced

what it is like to be a citizen of another country. This is the first.

Second. The same will apply to the issuance of humanitarian aid and other issues

of those people who have not yet received a passport from the country in which

they live, a passport from the country that feeds them, that gives them benefits, humanitarian aid

and ensures their safety in this territory, namely security,

because what our so-called waiters are doing...

What did he say? That humanitarian aid will not be issued.

And medications. Yes, Ukrainian.

If you don't take a Russian passport, you won't get anything. What do you think, people who

lived in peace, who were visited, whose territory was occupied, who lost

the opportunity to leave, drive in safely, go to stores safely, whose

entire standard way of life was destroyed, and who are also told:

If you don’t take a passport, you won’t get insulin, and insulin is vital, do you think

they will be very happy? No, of course they won’t be as happy as they are

without drugs, everyone wants to live. But some part of some pensioners,

I don’t know, longing for the Soviet Union, who stayed there,

they can come up to you and say: yes, it’s great in general, we’re glad, we’re used to

living in crap, thank you for coming , and we have shit again,

we are happy. It could be.

Don't know. Or did you bring them something good?

Tell me what.

I didn't bring anything bad to them. Not you personally,

but Russia in general. Here people lived... I saw that they were handing out humanitarian aid.

Wonderful. Food.

So they haven’t gone hungry before.

Food. They didn’t starve before,

they didn’t die of hunger there. I don’t know how it was before,

they didn’t say anything before. Did people live?

Well, we lived. If they lived, does that mean they ate?

They ate, but for some reason they were also dissatisfied with the Ukrainian authorities.

They were also dissatisfied with something. Would you have gone there if you were unarmed,

arrived as a reporter or, I don’t know, as a sociologist in Ukraine and went around asking around,

conducted some cross-section of opinions: such and such a percentage is dissatisfied, such and such a percentage is satisfied, such

and such a percentage is satisfied because such and such a percentage is dissatisfied because,

then you could talk about it, but since you are standing there as an occupier

and are sitting there now, it tells me that someone there was dissatisfied. So, what is next?

Are you all happy with everything?

In Russia? Yes.

Not everyone, of course, is happy with everything. You are happy?

Is your shepherd happy? I say,

were you satisfied with your life? Me not.

This shepherd of yours gets 15,000, do you think he’s very pleased?

Well, you have to survive from piece to bread, from foot to foot. So, the Chinese can calmly

come in and take everything and they will be right? The state allowed them everything, gave it to them.

I understand, so it means that wherever you have dissatisfied people,

dissatisfied with life, other countries can

come in and take it away? Not really. Well, how?

So you’re telling me this now: there were dissatisfied people in Zaporozhye.

You also have dissatisfied people. It turns out that the United States can easily swim across

the Bering Strait and seize everything completely in a straight line, wherever your people are unhappy,

and your people are unhappy everywhere. So? Well, not everywhere, but there are dissatisfied people, of course.

So I say, there are those who are dissatisfied, and so we have those who are dissatisfied.

You came in with tanks, weapons and now you’re sitting

here in my captivity, one survivor, two of you survived out of how many of the seven, right?

Four. Out of four? Well, out of six, probably.

Of the six, two survived, four died, and you are sitting here now and telling me: you have dissatisfied people there.

I ask you: are you stupid? I'm not stupid.

Why are you telling me this nonsense? Well, I don't know

what nonsense I'm talking about. What nonsense should you say,

if you were a person who came and understood something,

you would say one simple thing. I'm not asking you to tell her. You would say: excuse me,

Ukrainians, that I came to your land

with a machine gun as an occupier along with other occupiers, I had nothing to do here.

That's what you would say if you understood. So you didn’t understand shit at all.

You just realized that they promised you one thing, but gave you something else,

and everything else, everything that your country, your regime is doing, you are completely satisfied with it all,

you don’t have any... Well, this is politics, I’m sort of in politics...

That’s it , let's see, this is useless stupid,

this is just my monologue, this will not be a conversation. Let's see, did your friend write something?

Your friend, of course, didn’t write anything.

By tradition, we invite you to contact us. Somewhere, in principle, you understand

that you have been deceived; you probably understand that somewhere this is wrong.

But all this is what you have, you know, in some distant format,

you still didn’t understand the essence. In general, you are so far from

understanding this essence that I’m even afraid that it will be pointless to talk.

Well, the point is, I realized that we have nothing to do here.

There was no need to come here and why was it needed at all,

all this meat grinder that costs nothing. Please advise. I just don’t even want

to say any global things anymore. You have friends there, some people,

who know you. There are such people?

Of course I have. Contact them and

tell them purely from your experience, from what you have seen, does it make sense for them to come here,

sign contracts, will they earn a lot here, or is it not worth it?

Well, I think so, friends and comrades, that you shouldn’t sign all this and come here,

because the only option is to make money or something else.

The only option is to die here and rot on foreign soil.

What other option? There are no options, there is nothing for us to do here at all.

How they lived is how they would live. I don’t know why anyone came here,

who needed all this.

I know, but I won’t tell you, you still won’t understand.

Well, if you still don’t understand who needed it, it’s already pointless.

To the government. Vladimirovich Putin needed it.

Vladimirovich? Vladimir Putin. He needed it.

Why do you say that you don’t know who needed it if you know who needed it?

I decided to add more land for myself. So do you understand everything?

Why do we need it, this land?

There is enough land of our own. We can’t cope with ours within the country.

Why is land needed, you ask him. The main thing is that you at least understand

that he needs her and that’s why. that's all that happens.

I realized a long time ago, when I first came here to Ukraine, that

we don’t need this land. People lived here on their own and would live.

Well, yes. Well, I decided to compete with the Americans,

I guess I decided to compete with the Americans.

What are Americans like again? He decided to compete with America, probably.

Yes, this is Ukraine here! Good afternoon This is not America! America - please, go back,

sail through the Bering Strait and

do what you want, attack, invade, compete, do whatever you want!

This is your equal opponent. Well, how about an equal?..

Well, at least in terms of territory.

By volume of land.

Yes, in terms of land volumes.

Because if you take this table, then this entire table will be Russia, and Ukraine will be this. Somehow, you know, it doesn’t suit you or something.

Yes, quite small. Go compete with the States there, why don’t you compete?

Compete with the States,

Ukraine is here, the States are not here, and the American military is not here.

And you know this as well as I do. Now I know that they are not there. Because they fought,

were captured and came here through all the points of captivity.

I doubt that you saw any Americans... I didn’t see anyone.

Or at least even Polish ones. Didn't see anyone.

I didn’t see anyone here except Ukrainians. I didn’t even see Poles.

And if there are a couple of volunteers here, do you

know how many of them you have?

Haven't met it yet. Did not met?

So here you will meet the Nepalese, for example.

You will meet the Nepalese here, who came

to fight as part of the Russian army, citizens of Nepal.

I've never seen anything like this before. So you will meet.

Are you currently in quarantine?

Yes, still in quarantine. Still in quarantine, here you go,

there are citizens of Nepal who hardly speak Russian, one doesn’t speak at all,

the other speaks very poorly. Ask what they are doing here,

if we have mercenaries here, then who do you have?

War for land, war for territory, Russia and Ukraine, everything.

I decided, therefore, to expand further boundaries. So the largest country in the world.

Where else and why?

Well, yes. Eternal fucking horde.

How can the whole world not understand one simple thing?

Until this fucking horde is stopped, they will do this all the time!

Do you think everything would have ended in Ukraine

if he had managed to take over everything? Yes, I think that if it had not ended,

people would still have been found to oppose this regime.

The Baltic countries would have gone further, the countries of the former socialist camp,

and these are the current NATO countries. All this would have happened,

it’s just that this world is lucky that the Ukrainians were able and are still managing to

somehow contain this whole influx.

Somehow people don’t really understand this, obviously.

Okay, this is my gag.

Anything else you want to add? Maybe I didn’t ask something,

but you wanted to say something?

What else can I say? There is nothing more to say,

I came here in vain, that’s all. Not only did you come here in vain,

but you could have stayed here, lying in that very dugout,

and no one would have even taken you. And he would rot there.

These four who were with you, they have already rotted. Well, at least they’ve rotted,

that’s for sure. This is now, while it was still cold, but now it’s spring.

Well, they already stank anyway. Yes, you can imagine what would happen there,

I would lie in a field and stink - that’s it.

Or in some dugout. Or in the dugout.

Who cares? Already buried.

Well, I wanted Ukrainian land - here you are lying in it.

That's how it worked. Yes, just hemorrhoids for yourself.

No, hemorrhoids are not such a problem compared to

lying in a field or in a dugout and rotting.

Hemorrhoids can be cured, but this is no longer the case. This will remain in my soul for the rest of my life,

a tint like a sediment. No you did not understand.

You will be left with some kind of tint, a residue, maybe, or maybe not. I don't know.

I'm talking about being within an inch of death.

The fact that I'm talking to you now is your luck, you're just lucky.

I could just as easily be talking to one of the four who died with you.

And you could lie there. And the most interesting thing is that they, that you,

you understand all this, but you either need to be captured, or die,

or have your limbs torn off, then you begin to understand that you have nothing to do here.

And so: I’ll sign, go and have a look. Tourists.

Many people already understand this. When they come there, here,

to Ukraine, only here do you begin to understand all this, but there in Russia

you don’t really understand, don’t realize, but here you just begin to understand.

I understood this, and that’s what I’m talking about. And you can be aware there.

All you need to do is get on your phone, tablet, laptop, dig around, look, search.

We are now filtering all this. Of course they filter.

You won’t see this, that everything here is true and not true. You will see, if you want, you will see.

YouTube worked great for you all this time, and our interviews went great there,

you could watch everything there, listen to someone like you,

you could turn it on, listen, you would hear everything, if you have ears,

if you don’t have a headache TV, you turn it on, you watch it - and you hear everything,

you see everything. Will someone like you hear you?

He will hear, of course. How? If he doesn't even turn it on,

how will he hear you? I don’t know, as you say, it’s somewhere on the Internet,

on Google, I’ve never seen anything like this here. On Google! On YouTube, you will be on YouTube.

I told you right away: do you give voluntary consent to recording and publication?

You say: I give. This video of ours will be published on YouTube.

You take it, turn it on, look, but no one from your Ussuriysk will turn it on or watch it.

Hope. They don't even understand.

Okay, I hope so. I hope so too.