Forgotten '66 Oldsmobile F-85 Gives Derek & His Brother a Run For Their Money! | Roadworthy Rescues

MotorTrend Channel
28 Jan 202411:00

Summary

TLDRTwo brothers attempt to get a 1966 Oldsmobile running that has been sitting for 10 years. They find it has been modified for racing and has a big block 455 engine. After installing a new ignition and fuel system, they try starting it but hear loud knocking noises. Despite troubleshooting several possible causes, the engine won't spin freely, indicating serious internal damage. Unable to diagnose or fix the issues onsite, they ultimately decide to load the non-running car onto a trailer to bring to a shop, where they'll have to pull the badly damaged engine out for inspection and rebuild.

Takeaways

  • 😊 The video features a 1966 Oldsmobile F85 that has been sitting for about 10 years and modified into a street/strip car
  • 🚗 The car has a big block 455 V8 engine, 4-speed manual transmission, and other performance upgrades
  • ⛽ Found the gas tank in the trunk indicating likely fuel system issues
  • 😣 Attempts to start the engine reveal a loud knocking sound and it won't spin over
  • 🛠 They test compression and lubricate cylinders to try diagnosing the knock
  • 🔧 Further diagnosis points to a possible issue with the crankshaft or bearings
  • 🚚 They decide repairs are beyond what they can do onsite, so will load it on a trailer and transport it to a shop with proper tools and space
  • 🤔 Debate whether it's best to rebuild the existing engine or source a replacement motor
  • 😒 Accept that the loud knock issue prevents safely running the engine in its current state
  • 🔧 Major engine work needed before the car can be put back on the road

Q & A

  • What year and make of the car are the hosts working on?

    -They are working on a 1966 Oldsmobile F85.

  • How long has the car been sitting without running?

    -The car has not been running for about 10 years.

  • What modifications do the hosts notice on the car?

    -They notice that it has been turned into a street strip car with a crazy paint job, big snorkel, and tires.

  • What transmission does the car have?

    -The car has a 4-speed manual transmission.

  • What problem do the hosts encounter when trying to start the engine?

    -The engine makes a prominent knocking sound and won't spin over.

  • What do the hosts try to do to diagnose the knocking problem?

    -They remove the spark plugs and pour Marvel Mystery Oil into the cylinders to try to lubricate the engine and isolate the source of the noise.

  • What conclusion do the hosts reach about the condition of the engine?

    -They conclude that they will likely need to pull the engine out and rebuild it due to the severity of the knocking.

  • What plan do the hosts have for the car?

    -They plan to fully restore the car.

Outlines

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😊 Exploring the Abandoned Hot Rod

The first paragraph introduces the 1966 Oldsmobile Cutlass Coupe hot rod project car. It has been sitting for 10 years in southern Kansas. The narrator explores the car, finding it has been converted into a street/strip car with a roll cage, unique paint job, and large tires. The gas tank is missing, hinting at potential fuel system issues.

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🛢️ Rebuilding the Carburetor

The second paragraph shows the process of rebuilding the carburetor. The narrator finds a rock stuck inside and decides to fully rebuild it using a cheap kit, in hopes that it will allow the engine to start up with proper fuel metering.

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🚨 Diagnosing the Knocking Engine

In the third paragraph, they attempt starting the engine but are met with loud knocking noises. Further diagnosis leads them to believe there are mechanical issues inside the engine. They decide the engine will need to be pulled out to inspect and rebuild or replace it before the car can safely run again.

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Keywords

💡street strip car

A street strip car refers to a vehicle that has been modified for improved speed and performance, often using parts from racing or high performance cars, but that is still legally registered to drive on public roads. In this video, the 1966 Oldsmobile has a custom paint job, oversized tires, and other modifications making it a street strip car rather than a regular street car.

💡big block

In the automotive world, a big block refers to a large displacement internal combustion engine, usually over 400 cubic inches. The narrator discovers that this street strip car has been upgraded to a high performance 455 cubic inch V8 big block engine.

💡fuel issue

When trying to start an old car that has been sitting, often there are fuel system problems that need to be addressed first. In this case, the narrator finds the gas tank removed from the car, indicating a likely fuel issue that led to the car being parked originally.

💡ignition

The ignition system provides the spark to ignite the air-fuel mixture in the engine cylinders. Since the car is missing its ignition and key, the narrator has to replace the ignition tumbler and wiring to try getting the engine started after years of sitting.

💡compression

Engine compression refers to the pressure created in the cylinders when the pistons move upward on the combustion stroke. Good compression is required to ignite the air-fuel mixture. The narrators speculate this engine may have very high compression contributing to issues turning it over.

💡knocking

An engine knock or knocking sound is an abnormal metallic banging noise from inside the engine, indicating internal damage or failure. When trying to start this car, it begins loudly knocking, a bad sign that something is broken internally.

💡diagnosing

To diagnose means to identify the root cause or nature of a problem through examination and analysis. With the serious engine knocking present, the narrators discuss options for diagnosing where inside the engine the damage is occurring.

💡rebuild

An engine rebuild involves fully disassembling and inspecting an engine, replacing any damaged or worn parts, and reassembling the complete engine from scratch. Given the problems, the narrators debate whether it will be necessary to rebuild this 455 cubic inch V8 or replace it.

💡 defeat

To accept defeat means to acknowledge failure or the inability to successfully complete a task, at least for the present time. After all their efforts to get the car running fail, the narrators discuss not being ready to accept defeat yet.

💡pull the engine

Since they cannot properly inspect or fix the engine issues with it still inside the car, the narrators decide their next course of action will be to pull or remove the engine from the vehicle so they can diagnose and rebuild it.

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Transcripts

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well guys way down in southern Kansas

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where we picked up this 1966 oile f85 it

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hasn't been running in about 10 years

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give or take I'm going to try to get

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this thing going and back on the road

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again but of course first we got to walk

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around it drink it up and see what we're

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in for I think I'm going to start in the

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trunk see if we got any you know engine

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parts or anything like that tells a good

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story great this will be

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fun

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now immediately you can see this has

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kind of been turned into a street strip

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car it's got this crazy bowling ball

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paint and big snorkel and tires so I'm a

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little nervous we're going to find like

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head gaskets or something like that in

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here might be the reason it was

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parked oh that's

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great found the gas tank that's

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neat so I'm going to say we have a fuel

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issue right off the bat so that's fine

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look at this paint that's

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wild wow they even did the underside of

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the

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thing well let's jump inside the

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rig oh yeah oh boy smells like a

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wristwatch full of ear wax it's uh it's

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really different two things I noticed

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immediately we got some sort of cage in

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here okay

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fourspeed

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yes that is great news this was

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definitely crudely cut in so it was a

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auto magical transmission to start with

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mileage

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[Music]

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8,945 nope we got a Grand Turismo wheel

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I'm getting a '90s feel here we got

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miscellaneous switches we got a radiator

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laying in the back seat with a bunch of

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empty uh wobble pop cans and a fair

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extinguisher so the previous owner owner

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definitely partied I'm going to tell you

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that there's no ignition stick so that's

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you know nothing new for roadworthy and

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I'm going to have to move the seat if

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I'm even going to sit in this thing it's

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not Sasquatch size and based on the

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radiator and fan troud I think we're

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going to have a lot of work in the power

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bar and see what we got under

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there look at the bird eater on this

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thing goodness

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gracious yeah you know they used to be

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pretty cool not so much anymore I

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guess yes we got a big blocks 455

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probably is looking like is oh we got a

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radiator and the fan and the belts and

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the whirly Woos and and all that it's

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got hot rod parts and then headers it's

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got updated music pipes I mean all in

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all it looks to be really

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complete so this car is sitting in a

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tree roll from the guy that we bought it

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from I want to try to get this thing

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running driving off the property and

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down to a neighbor's shop he's going to

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let us wrench in there but I've got

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quite a bit of work to do to try to get

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this thing fired up so I brought my

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brother Sean over and he's going to be

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helping me out how's it going it's going

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big block big block fourspeed like that

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bowling ball uh big tires tires yes yes

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so I think what we're going to do is I'm

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going to try to convince you to lay

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upside down and put an ignition in this

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so we or wires or something to do the

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starter I'll figure out Fuel and Spark

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we can meet in the middle see if this

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rotates see if we get this thing barked

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off sounds like a game plan all right

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let's get

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[Music]

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started so in order to get the old

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ignition out you got to have a key to be

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able to turn the tumbler and to press

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the switch well we don't have the key so

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I'm going to try to drill it

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out or just push it all the way through

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the dash and then pry all the Inns out

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and put a new tumbler

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in no pain no

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gain I don't know what I'm

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doing just keep doing it

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okay what's happening in there

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crank it see if it

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works

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barely but it works it

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works boy she's drier than Bob Barker's

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Skin So this old 750 Ed rocks just been

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sitting too long the needle stuck and

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the squirters weren't squirting so it's

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not going to work I'm going to tear it

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down just see if I could throw a cheap

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rebuild kit in it save some money and

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just use this old guy here you really

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want to use a clean working

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surface when messing with your fuel

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metering device so this old fuel tank

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should do the trick definitely a

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calendar pose right here more lips more

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lips push your butt

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off

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[Music]

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what I've never seen a

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rock actually make it through a carb

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it's pretty impressive actually I'm not

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even

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mad I'm going to soak this thing down

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toss this new kit here put it all back

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together and then hopefully as long as

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there's compression this thing should

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bark right off and make some

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noise got a ladybug hang on little fell

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it's going to be a

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ride so here's where we're at we're

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ready to fire this thing up or at least

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attempt to we've made a temporary fuel

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system out of the old snowmobile tank

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Sean's got that wired in with an

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extension cord we got a kill switch in

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the cabin Believe It or Not we've done a

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makeshift carburetor rebuild on this

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we've tested we've got spark so

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theoretically if I pull this trigger it

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should fire off here and make some noise

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ready ready bring the

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Thunders

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nothing let's bring it

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again

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something doesn't sound good no sir I

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think that's what you call a

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[Music]

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knock the battery is plenty

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fine

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help that didn't seem to work man this

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is actually might be really bad why else

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would they Park a beautiful car like

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this

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so we've got a very prominent knocking

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sound coming from the engine it's like a

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cabin screen door it's loud it's loud

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yeah now it won't spin over at all we

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got a wrench on the crank oh yeah she's

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tight now yeah so there's something

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going on got an idea

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Sean what if this thing is like 42 to 9

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compression theoretically yeah

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everything in insides brand new lost the

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receipts it makes 3,000 horsepower what

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if we pull all the spark lers

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out then try to spin it over get some

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lube around in because then if it's

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tight still we know it's not compression

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it's mechanical interference somewhere

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okay

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[Music]

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plan so I think what we're going to do

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is try to hit a bird with five Stones

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Sean is going to juice up all of the

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cylinders filling full of Mary Mar

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Marvel Mystery Oil we don't know what's

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in it it's a mystery and while he's

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doing that I'm going to replace the sad

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cable on the battery cuz this thing's

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smoking like a bingo hall and that way

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we know we've got a good ground the

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starter's getting all the juices we're

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going to charge up the battery we're

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going to have lubrications we're going

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to try to spin it over again long enough

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to where we can start diagnosing where

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this knocking sound is coming from

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because it is it's not going away it's

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kind of like taxes you know what I mean

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okay that's better right

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sure it's this oil it's a mystery a

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mystery yeah you can hear it

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now oh my gosh you could feel it in the

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pan Big Time water pump compeller or

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something weird in there but why would

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you feel that in the pan was the fan on

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the alternator hitting the bracket no is

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the crank hitting the timing tab no

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could it

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be the crank hitting the windage

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tray I mean even if it runs we're going

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to have to pull it can't run it like

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that so now do we rebuild it or do we

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find a 455 in a jet boat

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somewhere it's not really a jet boat

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season though it's

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not

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you can barely hear

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[Applause]

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it s so

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[Music]

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bad so we're still not ready you know to

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accept defeat so we cut the belts off

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and we're wasting more time hoping that

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something other that's rotating is

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making making the noise probably not but

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it's worth a shot so if it still makes

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noise it's crank engine related ready

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ready okay okay all right yeah so anyway

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did you bring any fishing poles it'd be

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a good day to

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fish well clearly the bowling ball OS

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mobile have some issues we're not going

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to be able to resolve them up here on

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this Hillside this tree roll so I think

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what we're going to do is try to throw

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on a trailer get it over that shop that

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we're going to borrow we're going to

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have to pull this engine out and at

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least take a look at the thing see how

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bad it is do something but nonetheless

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off the hill it goes into the shop it

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goes