Matemática EAD Vale a Pena?

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24 Apr 202410:09

Summary

TLDRThe speaker discusses their perspective on distance learning mathematics courses, specifically the Bachelor's degree in Mathematics offered by Uninter. They mention that while the course is recognized by MEC and has a decent reputation, it may not be as in-depth as traditional university courses due to reduced hours per subject. The speaker highlights the extensive range of subjects covered, which could provide a broad overview but might not allow for deep specialization. They also express concerns about the time-consuming nature of online courses, which could detract from self-study and limit the opportunity for personal growth in mathematics. Additionally, they note the importance of direct interaction with professors and the experience of learning beyond the curriculum, which may be lacking in distance education. While acknowledging that a distance learning degree can be a valid pathway for those aiming to become mathematics teachers or for those who require a mathematics background for industrial work, the speaker suggests that for those with academic aspirations, a traditional university education might be more beneficial due to the opportunities for deeper engagement and networking.

Takeaways

  • 🎓 The speaker completed a Mathematics Licensure at a Federal University and took an online course in Information Technology, which they found very important.
  • 🏫 The speaker inquired about a good Mathematics course and was recommended the Uninter course. They reviewed the curriculum and discussed the Bachelor's degree in Mathematics offered by Uninter.
  • 📚 The Uninter course is recognized by MEC and has a 'C' grade, indicating it is not a bad course to start with, and the speaker believes it will help students learn and enjoy Mathematics.
  • 🕒 The Uninter course has a reduced workload compared to the Federal University, with a maximum of 56 hours per subject, while the Federal University typically has 60 to 120 hours.
  • 📈 The Uninter course breaks down subjects into smaller parts, which might reduce the depth of study but allows for a broader overview.
  • 📈 The speaker mentions an overwhelming number of subjects offered in the Uninter course, which might not allow for deep specialization.
  • 🕒 Distance learning courses tend to consume a lot of time with regular online activities, assessments, and mandatory readings, which can detract from self-study or preparation for further studies.
  • 🤔 The speaker doubts that a distance learning course would provide the same level of personal experience and connection with professors as an in-person university would.
  • 📚 Personal experiences, such as reading books beyond the curriculum and conversing with professors, played a significant role in the speaker's passion for Mathematics, which they believe might be lacking in a distance learning environment.
  • 🎓 Although a distance learning course is recognized by MEC and can be used to apply for a master's degree, the speaker has not personally known anyone who has done so with an online Mathematics degree.
  • 🚪 The speaker concludes that while distance learning courses are valid for becoming a Mathematics teacher or for obtaining a Mathematics curriculum for industrial work, they might not open as many doors for an academic career or for those who wish to study beyond what is offered in the degree curriculum.

Q & A

  • What is the speaker's educational background in mathematics?

    -The speaker has a degree in Mathematics Licensure from a Federal University and took an online course in Information Technology during their Mathematics course at Uninter.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the Uninter's online Mathematics course?

    -The speaker believes that the Uninter's online Mathematics course is recognized by MEC and has a decent reputation, but they express concerns about the reduced course load and the breadth rather than depth of the subjects covered.

  • How does the speaker compare the course load of Uninter's online course to traditional university courses?

    -The speaker notes that Uninter's online courses have a maximum of 56 hours, compared to the minimum of 60 to a maximum of 120 hours in traditional university courses, suggesting a lighter load in the online format.

  • What are some unique subjects included in Uninter's online Mathematics course?

    -The course includes subjects like non-Euclidean geometry and game theory, which the speaker found surprising and not commonly found in undergraduate Mathematics programs.

  • How does the speaker perceive the time commitment for online courses?

    -The speaker believes that online courses tend to consume a lot of time throughout the week with various activities, assessments, and mandatory readings, which might detract from self-study or preparation for further studies.

  • What are the potential drawbacks of online courses for a Mathematics student according to the speaker?

    -The speaker suggests that online courses might not allow for the same depth of learning, limit opportunities for personal connections with professors, and may not provide the same level of preparation for advanced studies or academic careers.

  • What role did reading and interacting with professors play in the speaker's development of an interest in Mathematics?

    -Reading books beyond the curriculum and engaging with professors about their experiences and careers significantly contributed to the speaker's passion for Mathematics.

  • Is an online Mathematics degree sufficient for pursuing a master's or doctorate degree?

    -The speaker confirms that an online degree is recognized by MEC and can be used to apply for a master's or doctorate, but they have not personally known anyone who has done so with an online Mathematics degree.

  • What are the speaker's concerns regarding the preparation for a master's or doctorate entrance exam with an online Mathematics degree?

    -The speaker is concerned that the reduced course load and the breadth-focused curriculum of online courses may not adequately prepare students for the depth required in entrance exams for advanced studies.

  • What is the speaker's conclusion about online Mathematics courses for those who want to pursue an academic career?

    -The speaker concludes that while online courses are valid and can teach Mathematics, they might not open as many doors, especially for those aiming for an academic career, due to the lack of depth and personal connections.

  • What does the speaker recommend for someone who wants a degree in Mathematics and likes the subject?

    -The speaker recommends that if someone's goal is just to have a degree in Mathematics and they enjoy the subject, they should pursue an online degree as it will provide them with knowledge in the field.

  • What are the two main advantages that traditional universities offer over online degree programs, according to the speaker?

    -The speaker believes that traditional universities tend to offer more opportunities for personal connections and experiences with others, as well as the chance to learn Mathematics beyond what is proposed in the curriculum.

Outlines

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🤔 Opinion on Distance Learning Mathematics Courses

The speaker discusses their thoughts on distance learning mathematics courses, having completed a mathematics degree at the Federal University and a distance learning course in information technology. They mention that the Uninter's distance learning mathematics course is recognized and has a decent reputation. The speaker also reviews the curriculum, noting that it is divided into smaller modules with less total hours compared to traditional university courses. They express concern that the breadth of topics covered may not allow for deep exploration of each subject.

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📚 Challenges of Distance Learning for Mathematics

The speaker talks about the challenges of distance learning for mathematics, emphasizing the importance of doing exercises and taking exams regardless of the university. They feel that distance learning can be time-consuming with numerous online activities and assessments. The speaker also discusses the lack of personal contact with professors, which they believe is crucial for developing a passion for mathematics and understanding the academic career path. They express skepticism about the effectiveness of a distance learning degree in preparing students for a master's or doctoral program, citing the intense competition and the need for a deeper understanding of the subject.

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🎓 Validity of Distance Learning Degrees for Academic Careers

The speaker concludes that distance learning degrees in mathematics are valid if one wants to become a math teacher or needs a math curriculum for industrial work. They acknowledge that distance learning can provide a general overview of mathematics but may not be the best option for those aiming for an academic career. The speaker suggests that traditional universities tend to offer more opportunities for personal growth, networking, and advanced study.

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Keywords

💡Distance Learning

Distance learning, also known as online or remote learning, refers to the education system where students and teachers are not in the same location. It is a mode of delivering education where the course content is made available to the student through digital platforms, and interaction is done via the internet. In the video, the speaker discusses their experience with a distance learning course in Mathematics and how it compares to traditional, in-person university education.

💡Mathematics Licensure

Mathematics licensure is a certification program that prepares individuals to become qualified mathematics teachers. It often involves a combination of coursework and practical training. The speaker mentions having completed a Mathematics licensure program at a Federal University, which is a significant part of their educational background and perspective on the value of distance learning courses in mathematics.

💡Course Load

Course load refers to the number of credit hours or units a student is taking in a given period. It is a measure of a student's academic commitment. The video transcript mentions that courses in the Uninter distance learning program have a maximum course load of 56 hours, contrasting with the 60 to 120 hours typical of in-person university courses. This difference in course load is a key point in the discussion about the depth and comprehensiveness of learning in distance learning programs.

💡Curriculum

Curriculum refers to the complete set of courses and other educational activities offered by an educational institution. The speaker analyzes the curriculum of the Uninter distance learning program, noting the breadth of topics covered and the division of courses into smaller parts, which may affect the depth of study and focus on each topic.

💡Federal University

A Federal University typically refers to a university that is funded and operated by the federal government of a country. In the context of the video, the Federal University is used as a point of comparison for the quality and depth of education provided by the distance learning program at Uninter. The speaker discusses the differences in course hours and the overall educational experience between the two types of institutions.

💡Uninter

Uninter is a Brazilian online university known for its distance learning programs. In the video, the speaker evaluates the Uninter Mathematics distance learning program, discussing its curriculum, course load, and the potential benefits and drawbacks compared to traditional in-person education.

💡Topological Book

A topological book, as mentioned in the video, likely refers to a book on topology, a branch of mathematics that deals with the properties of space that are preserved under continuous transformations. The speaker uses the mention of a topological book to illustrate their personal interest in exploring mathematical topics beyond what is taught in their courses, highlighting the value of self-directed learning.

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💡Academic Career

An academic career typically involves engaging in higher education and scholarly activities, such as teaching, research, and the pursuit of advanced degrees like a master's or doctorate. The video discusses the challenges that a distance learning program might pose to someone aiming for an academic career, particularly in terms of the depth of knowledge and the connections with professors that are often fostered in traditional university settings.

💡Contact with Professors

Contact with professors is important for students as it allows for the exchange of ideas, guidance, and the development of professional relationships. The speaker emphasizes the value of personal interaction with professors during their studies, which they feel is diminished in a distance learning environment. This contact was crucial for their development of a passion for mathematics and their decision to pursue a master's degree.

💡Scientific Initiation

Scientific initiation refers to the first research experiences that students undertake, often under the supervision of a professor or researcher. It is a stepping stone towards a research career and is highly valued in academic circles. The video mentions that opportunities for scientific initiation and advanced study might be limited in a distance learning context, which could impact a student's preparation for a research-focused academic career.

💡MEC Recognition

MEC stands for Ministério da Educação in Portuguese, which is the Ministry of Education in Brazil. Recognition by the MEC signifies that a course or program meets certain educational standards and is officially sanctioned by the government. The video states that a distance learning program in Mathematics from Uninter is recognized by the MEC, which means it is a valid qualification for pursuing further studies or a career in mathematics.

Highlights

The Uninter online math degree is recognized by MEC and has a C grade, indicating it's not a bad course to start with.

The course covers a wide range of math topics, including some unusual ones like non-Euclidean geometry and game theory.

Each subject in the Uninter curriculum has a maximum of 56 hours, compared to 60-120 hours at Federal University.

The course breaks down some subjects into multiple parts to allow for more focused study.

Online courses tend to be more time-consuming throughout the week with regular online activities and assessments.

The course may not allow as much flexibility or free time as a traditional university to study math beyond the curriculum.

Contact with professors and learning from their experiences was a key factor in the speaker's interest in math.

Such personal connections and self-discovery of math may be difficult to achieve in an online degree program.

While the online degree is recognized for pursuing a master's, the speaker doubts it fully prepares students due to limited hours and course intensity.

The selection process for master's programs may favor students from traditional universities or with research experience.

Online math degrees are valid for becoming math teachers or for those who need a math degree for industry jobs.

Federal universities tend to provide more opportunities for personal growth, research, and advanced study in math.

The speaker never personally met anyone who did a master's with an online math degree, suggesting it may be less common.

If the goal is just to obtain a bachelor's degree in math and enjoy the subject, an online degree can be a good choice.

The online degree may not open as many doors, especially for those aiming for an academic career in math.

Federal universities often provide more comprehensive math education and opportunities for deeper exploration.

The speaker recommends online math degrees for those who cannot attend a traditional university or need a math degree for specific jobs.

Overall, the speaker acknowledges the value of online math degrees while noting their limitations compared to traditional programs.

Transcripts

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E aí pessoal recentemente algumas

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pessoas têm me mandado mensagem no

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discord ou deixado perguntas aqui nos

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vídeos sobre o que que eu acho sobre a

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curso de matemática à distância e d e me

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Eu fiz curso de matemática licenciatura

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em matemática na Universidade Federal e

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eu fiz durante o curso de matemática eu

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fiz um curso EAD que foi

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H esqueci o nome agora para você ver

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quão importante ele foi para mim acho

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que foi tecnologia da informação eu acho

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que foi

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e eu fiz inclusive ele na Uninter E

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aparentemente eu perguntei para alguns

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de vocês Qual era um bom curso de

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matemática é dei muitos de vocês me

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sugeriram o curso da Uninter Então nesse

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vídeo eu dei uma olhada na grade

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curricular da Uninter e a gente vai

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especificamente falar sobre o curso de

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bacharelado em matemática EAD da da unin

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Enquanto isso você pode admirar aqui um

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livro de topologia

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algébrica primeiro o curso de matemática

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e da Uninter ele é reconhecido pelo Mac

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e ele tem nota C Então significa que não

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é um curso ruim para começar e se você

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fizer eu tenho certeza que você vai vai

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aprender matemática você vai ver coisas

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interessantes você vai gostar mais de

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matemática e com certeza Espero que na

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verdade você consiga bons empregos então

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assim se se você não tem opção de fazer

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um curso presencial o curso é AD da unin

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ter dado algumas reviews que eu vi

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parece ser justo Tá bom agora o nível do

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curso é igual a nível da Universidade

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Federal bem primeira coisa

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é que aparentemente sim mas eu duvido

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muito que que eu quero dizer com isso

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deixa eu dar uma pausa aqui no livro de

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topologia e deixa eu mostrar para vocês

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a grade curricular do curso da Uninter ã

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vou deixar essa grade de curricular na

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descrição do vídeo caso você queira dar

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uma olhada tá bom e primeira coisa que

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eu percebi é que todas as disciplinas

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tem no máximo uma carga horária de 56

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horas enquanto que na Universidade

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Federal os cursos costumam ter no mínimo

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60 horas e no máximo 120 Horas de carga

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horário então os cursos da Uninter

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parece bastante reduzido a carga

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horária mas faz sentido porque eles

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dissolveram alguns cursos em mais de um

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por exemplo eles têm aqui o curso de

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cálculo conceitos depois eles têm

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cálculo diferencial e mais paraa frente

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eles têm cálculo integral então um curso

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que na Universidade Federal seria uma

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coisa só aqui Eles colocaram em três

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partes então eles diminuíram um pouco a

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carga horário e dividiram o curso em

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três partes para poder focar em cada uma

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delas então primeira coisa cargo horária

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das disciplinas é diferente outra coisa

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é a quantidade de disciplinas tem muita

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disciplina de matemática aqui e é

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realmente assustador porque nem o o

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inatec tem esse tanto de de disciplina

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de matemática oferecida no curso de

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graduação deles eles incluem aqui umas

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coisas muito loucas como geometria não

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euclidiana desenho geométrico que eu

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achei que já até tinha saído da das

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disciplinas de matemática ah teoria dos

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jogos no curso de graduação em

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matemática pesquisa operacional física

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moderna é realmente surpreendente a

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quantidade de curso que eles colocaram

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aqui agora com essa quantidade de curso

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Provavelmente você não vai se aprofundar

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muito em nenhum deles que parece ser a

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proposta oposta do impc eles têm muito

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menos cursos mas eu imagino que você vá

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muito mais a fundo neles Então esse

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curso da Uninter parece te dar um

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Panorama Geral das coisas e mais sem se

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aprofundar muito nelas então outra coisa

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sobre universidades à distância é que

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elas consumem Elas costumam te consumir

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muito tempo que que eu quero dizer com

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isso é muito comum na federal a gente

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vai pra aula né E aí depois a gente sai

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da aula e a gente passa o resto do dia

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estudando coisas diferentes por fora

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para se preparar para um mestrado um

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doutorado alguma coisa assim mas cursos

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à distância eles costumam ter pequenas

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coisinhas que vão consumindo o seu tempo

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ao longo da semana então tem sei lá

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quatro atividades online para você fazer

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mais duas avaliações mais leituras

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obrigatórias e tudo mais e eles tentam

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fazer isso para reduzir a a sensação de

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que o curso é sem comprometimento por

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ser a distância né então eles

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comprometem você bastante com várias

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coisas e a tentativa deles é você

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entender o valor daquele curso e isso é

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ruim para um aluno de matemática de

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maneira geral Obviamente você tem que

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fazer exercício você tem que fazer as

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provas independente da Universidade que

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você estuda Mas eu sinto que em

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universidades à distância isso costuma

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ser muito exagerado e acaba tirando seu

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tempo por exemplo de outras coisas que é

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estudar matemática além daquilo que você

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só vê na graduação por exemplo se você

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quer fazer mestrado você precisa estar

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uma matemática por fora mais avançada

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para se preparar para

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Talvez um curso EAD especialmente se

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você tá fazendo curso EAD porque você

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trabalha ele não vai te permitir tanta

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flexibilidade

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assim e Outro fator importante uma das

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coisas que me ajudou muito quando eu fiz

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quando eu queria fazer mestrado era o

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contato que eu tinha com os professores

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não só quando eu queria fazer mestrado

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mas o meu gosto pela matemática em geral

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meu gosto pela matemática veio de duas

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coisas ler livro além do que eu via Na

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Na Na graduação Então eu ia pra

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biblioteca e eu pegava um livro como

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esse aqui e eu olhava para essa anotação

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e eu ficava o que que isso quer dizer eu

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não faço a menor ideia e aquela

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curiosidade de abrir o livro ficar

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folando e estudando por conta própria um

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algo que eu não tinha nenhuma disciplina

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Na graduação sobre aquilo então eu sabia

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que eu não ia aprender isso criou muito

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meu gosto pela matemática e o outro foi

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conversar com os professores e aprender

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a experiência deles de como foi a

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carreira deles como matemáticos ou

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físicos e essas duas coisas

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Provavelmente você não vai ter numa

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graduação EAD e porque obviamente eu sei

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que alguns ali tem um fórum onde você

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pode trocar a ideia com o tutor e tudo

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mais mas eu não tô falando de tirar

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dúvidas eu tô falando de trocar

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experiências criar conexões com seus

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professores entender porque eles

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decidiram estudar matemática a vida toda

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deles e Verê se aquilo é para você então

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essa conexão com com com os professores

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e passar esse tempo na universidade

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descobrindo matemática por conta própria

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foi isso que criou meu gosto pela

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matemática e me fez querer seguir nessa

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área e eu acho que um curso EAD

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dificilmente eu de maneira quase

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impossível permitiria que eu fizesse a

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mesma coisa

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ã uma pergunta que me fizeram foi se

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curso EAD serve para você fazer mestrado

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e doutorado a resposta é sim serve

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porque é um curso reconhecido pelo MEC

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então se você aplicar pro mestrado seu

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diploma vai valer isso em teoria na

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prática eu pessoalmente nunca conheci

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ninguém que tenha feito mestrado com um

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curso de matemática à distância Eu sei

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que existe eu não tenho dúvida nenhuma

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de que existe mas eu pessoalmente nunca

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conheci e eu imagino que sejam por dois

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motivos primeiro é que o processo

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seletivo para você entrar no mestrado ou

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ele é uma prova ou ele é uma análise de

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currículo se ele é uma prova

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provavelmente vai ser uma prova de

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análise real ou álgebra e muito

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dificilmente um curso de 56 horas como a

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gente viu vai te preparar o suficiente

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para você fazer essa prova e ficar entre

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os melhores colocados e mesmo que você

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estude por fora você vai ter dificuldade

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Porque como a gente falou a faculdade é

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dela consome a sua semana

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completamente E se o processo seletivo

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for uma análise de currículo significa

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que o professor t a a contratar os

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alunos que ou fizeram iniciação

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científica com ele ou vieram de

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universidades renomadas como Unicamp USP

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etc e um aluno que veio da Uninter

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provavelmente vai vão olhar pro seu

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currículo com olhos meio tortos porque

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não é uma Federal Não tô dizendo que

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isso Tá certo tá por favor

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mas é a realidade

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infelizmente Então minha conclusão sobre

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cursos de matemática à distância é eles

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são cursos válidos se você quer ser

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professor de matemática ou você quer um

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currículo de matemática para você

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trabalhar na indústria

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eh e o curso é AD é a única coisa que

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você pode fazer então faça porque você

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vai aprender matemática Não tenha

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dúvidas você pode chegar até a competir

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com alunos de Universidade Federal só

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que a Universidade Federal e

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universidades presencia de maneira geral

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elas tendem a te fornecer duas coisas

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que a universidade EAD muitas vezes

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falha que é contato com experiência de

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outras pessoas e aprender matemática

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além daquilo que só tá proposto para

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você no no cronograma Além de coisas

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como iniciação científica ver

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disciplinas mais avançadas e coisas

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assim então não acho que o curso é AD

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seja errado mas não acho que ele abre

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para você tantas portas especialmente se

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você quer seguir na carreira acadêmica

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se o seu objetivo é só ter um diploma de

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graduação e você gosta de matemática

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Então vai fundo é isso

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