Randall Collins (University of Pennsylvania): Sexual Revolution and the Future of the Family

Norbert Elias Foundation
27 Dec 202358:46

Summary

TLDRIn this thought-provoking lecture, Professor Randall Collins explores the historical and sociological aspects of sexual revolutions and their impact on the family unit. He delves into the evolution of courtship, the rise of the feminist movement, and the increasing acceptance of non-heteronormative relationships. Collins discusses the contentious issues surrounding abortion and gender politics, highlighting the complex interplay between personal freedom, political regulation, and societal attitudes. He also examines the role of technology in shaping modern relationships and speculates on the future of the family in the context of a digitalized world.

Takeaways

  • ๐ŸŽ“ The lecture by Professor Randall Collins, a distinguished American sociologist, focused on the historical and contemporary aspects of sexual revolutions and the future of the family.
  • ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ‘งโ€๐Ÿ‘ฆ The family, as the oldest human institution, has undergone significant transformations from being politically and economically centered to becoming more focused on personal and sexual relations.
  • ๐Ÿ”„ The shift in the core of the family from political and economic to personal and sexual has led to greater individual choice and explicit political regulation of sexual behavior.
  • ๐Ÿค” Current disputes over sexuality and gender, including the upsurge in anti-abortion movements, are seen as part of a larger struggle over the remaining aspects of the family and its future.
  • ๐Ÿคฑ Abortion debates are primarily about freedom of sexual action, intertwined with issues like homosexuality, publicizing sexual identity, and the fight to eradicate gender distinctions.
  • ๐ŸŒ The sexual revolution and related movements, such as the women's rights movement and LGBTQ+ rights, have been worldwide phenomena with notable exceptions like the Muslim world.
  • ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ The LGBTQ+ movement has evolved significantly, from fighting for basic freedoms to asserting sexual identity as a central identity in politics and society.
  • ๐Ÿ“‰ The decline in marriage rates and the rise in non-marital births reflect a broader shift in societal attitudes towards traditional family structures and sexual norms.
  • ๐Ÿ”ฎ Sociological tools can be used to forecast the future of the family, considering factors like government regulations, political movements, and technological advancements like the internet.
  • ๐ŸŒ The digitalization of relationships and sexuality through the internet may lead to a decivilizing process, with less physical interaction and potentially less civility in relationships.
  • ๐Ÿ”„ The future of the family may involve a re-evaluation of its role in society, with potential for both traditional and non-traditional family structures to coexist or transform further.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of Professor Randall Collins' talk?

    -The main topic of Professor Randall Collins' talk is the sexual revolutions, the future of the family, and the current disputes over sexuality and gender.

  • How does Collins relate the anti-abortion movement to the sexual revolution?

    -Collins argues that the anti-abortion movement is a conservative response to the sexual revolution, viewing it as an attempt to restrict sexual freedom and roll back the changes in societal attitudes towards non-marital sex and the acceptance of various erotic practices.

  • What is the historical context of the shift in family structure according to Collins?

    -Collins explains that modernity began by replacing family organization with bureaucracy, leading to states regulating the family household from outside. The core of the family has become personal and sexual rather than political and economic, with a focus on individual choice.

  • How does Collins describe the role of the state in the family unit?

    -Collins describes the state's role as one of external regulation, where states began to inscribe everyone in the roles of the state as individuals, marking a shift from the family as the building block of power to the state's oversight and control over family matters.

  • What is the significance of the term 'gender identity' in the context of the talk?

    -The term 'gender identity' is significant as it represents the struggle to eradicate gender distinctions and the assertion of one's sexual identity as a central identity in politics, particularly in the context of publicizing one's sexual identity in schools and other public spaces.

  • How does Collins explain the resurgence of the anti-abortion movement?

    -Collins suggests that the resurgence of the anti-abortion movement is a reaction to the perceived decline of traditional family values and the increase in casual, non-marital sex. It is seen as a conservative effort to reassert the confining of sex to marriage and to push back against the sexual revolution of the mid-20th century.

  • What is the sociological explanation for the increase in people living alone?

    -The increase in people living alone is attributed to a combination of factors, including the rise of individualism, changes in social attitudes towards non-traditional family structures, and the impact of digitalization on social relationships, leading to more people choosing solitary lifestyles.

  • How does Collins view the impact of the internet on the future of the family?

    -Collins suggests that the internet and digitalization may lead to a future where most people work from home and interact primarily online. This could result in a decline in traditional family structures, with physical contact and interaction rituals becoming more privileged and thus the family potentially surviving as an enclave rather than a universal social institution.

  • What is the significance of the term 'anomie' in the context of the talk?

    -The term 'anomie' is used to describe the state of normlessness or lack of social cohesion that can result from the rapid social changes and movements discussed in the talk, such as the sexual revolution and the struggle over gender identity. It reflects the sense of disorientation and uncertainty experienced by some in the face of these transformations.

  • How does Collins address the issue of gender-neutral language and its relation to social movements?

    -Collins discusses the issue of gender-neutral language as part of a broader struggle over what remains of the family and what will replace it. He notes the political and social movements advocating for the use of non-gendered pronouns and the recognition of diverse gender identities, indicating a shift towards more fluid and inclusive understandings of gender.

  • What is the role of the government in regulating sexuality according to the talk?

    -According to the talk, the government plays a significant role in regulating sexuality through explicit political measures that either restrict or permit certain sexual behaviors and practices. This regulation has become more pronounced over the 20th century and continues to be a contentious issue in the context of social and political movements.

Outlines

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๐Ÿ“ Introduction and Acknowledgements

The paragraph begins with the host welcoming everyone to the final session of a conference and introduces Professor Randall Collins, a distinguished American sociologist from California. The host expresses hope that Professor Collins is online and mentions having sent him a text message. The speaker also acknowledges the contributions of earlier speakers, including Richard Senate, who discussed the situation in Ukraine. The host sets the stage for Professor Collins's talk on sexual revolutions and the future of the family, expressing curiosity about how he might connect his topic to the current events in Ukraine.

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๐ŸŒ Societal Shifts and the Sexual Revolution

In this paragraph, Professor Collins delves into the historical and societal shifts that have taken place, particularly focusing on the transformation of the family as an institution. He discusses how the family's role evolved from being the foundation of political, military, and economic power to a more personal and sexual focus in modern times. The speaker also touches on the increasing political regulation of sexual behavior and the rise of movements advocating for various sexual rights. He argues that the recent surge in anti-abortion movements is tied to broader issues of sexual freedom and the struggle to redefine gender roles and identity.

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๐Ÿ’ก The Sexual Revolution and its Impact

This paragraph continues the discussion on the sexual revolution, highlighting its impact on courtship, dating, and social interactions. The speaker describes how the younger generation began to mix without supervision, leading to a culture where sexual expression became a central aspect of life. The paragraph also addresses the rise in divorce rates, the emergence of the 'teenager' as a social category, and the increase in crime rates. The speaker connects these societal changes to the broader context of the sexual revolution and the evolving perceptions of marriage and family life.

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๐ŸŽญ Changing Social Norms and Expressions

The speaker in this paragraph explores how changes in social norms and self-presentation have occurred alongside the sexual revolution. The evolution of fashion trends, the depiction of sexualities in media, and the shift towards informalization in attire are discussed. The paragraph also examines the impact of the Jazz Age and the liberalization of Hollywood film censorship on societal attitudes towards sex. The speaker notes the rise of obscenity in language and its normalization in various aspects of society, reflecting a shift in cultural values and norms.

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๐Ÿณ๏ธ The Politics of Identity and Sexuality

This paragraph delves into the political and social movements centered around sexuality and identity. The speaker discusses the progression of movements advocating for women's rights, LGBTQ+ rights, and the recognition of diverse sexual orientations and gender identities. The paragraph also touches on the controversies surrounding sex education, the debate over non-gendered pronouns, and the political activism around gender-neutral language. The speaker posits that these movements reflect a broader struggle over the definition and future of the family.

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๐Ÿค” Reflections on the Future of the Family

In the final paragraph, the speaker reflects on the future of the family, considering the impact of government regulations, political movements, and technological advancements. The speaker discusses the potential outcomes of increased automation and the internet's influence on social relationships and sexual behavior. The paragraph also contemplates the possibility of the family evolving into a more exclusive and privileged institution, contrasting with the trend of increased individualism and solitary living. The speaker concludes with a discussion on the enduring significance of the family as a place of physical contact, interaction, and emotional connection.

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Keywords

๐Ÿ’กSexual Revolutions

The term 'Sexual Revolutions' refers to significant societal shifts in sexual behavior, attitudes, and norms. In the context of the video, it is associated with the historical change in the way society views and regulates sexual behavior, including the recognition of various forms of erotic practices and the politicization of sexuality. The speaker discusses the impact of these revolutions on the family structure and the ongoing debates surrounding issues like abortion and gender identity.

๐Ÿ’กAbortion

Abortion is the medical procedure to terminate a pregnancy. In the video, it is a central topic of discussion, representing the conflict between individual freedom and societal regulation of sexual behavior. The speaker argues that the anti-abortion movement is primarily about the freedom of sexual action and is part of a larger struggle over the future of the family and the role of the state in personal matters.

๐Ÿ’กFamily

The family is portrayed as the oldest human institution, traditionally serving as the building block of society. In the video, the concept of family is explored in relation to its transformation over time, from a political and economic unit to one centered on personal and sexual relationships. The speaker examines the future of the family amidst sexual revolutions and the various social movements influencing it.

๐Ÿ’กIdentity Politics

Identity politics refers to political positions based on the interests and perspectives of social groups with which people identify, often related to their sex, race, religion, or other social characteristics. In the video, the term is used to describe the increasing focus on sexuality as a central aspect of personal identity and political activism, particularly in relation to movements for LGBTQ+ rights and women's rights.

๐Ÿ’กGender

Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviors, activities, and expectations that a society considers appropriate for men and women. In the transcript, the discussion of gender is tied to the ongoing societal changes and debates over what constitutes acceptable gender identities and expressions, including the struggle to eradicate traditional gender distinctions.

๐Ÿ’กSociology

Sociology is the scientific study of society and human interaction within social groups. In the video, sociology is the lens through which the speaker analyzes and interprets the changes in sexual behavior, family structures, and social movements. The speaker, a sociologist, uses sociological tools to forecast the future of the family and understand the underlying causes of social phenomena.

๐Ÿ’กPolitical Regulation

Political regulation refers to the control or management of certain activities or behaviors by the government or governing bodies through the enforcement of laws and policies. In the context of the video, political regulation is discussed in relation to how it has been used to restrict or permit various sexual behaviors and practices, shaping societal norms and personal freedoms.

๐Ÿ’กLiberalism

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on individual rights, equality, and the protection of civil liberties. It is often associated with progressive social change and support for personal freedoms. In the video, liberalism is contrasted with conservative ideologies, particularly in the context of debates over issues like abortion and LGBTQ+ rights.

๐Ÿ’กConservatism

Conservatism is a political and social philosophy promoting the maintenance of traditional institutions, values, and practices. It often resists change and advocates for the preservation of what is considered 'traditional' or 'normal'. In the video, conservatism is associated with the anti-abortion movement and the desire to uphold what is perceived as the traditional family structure.

๐Ÿ’กLGBTQ+

LGBTQ+ is an acronym that stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer/questioning, and others, and represents a diverse community of individuals with varying sexual orientations, gender identities, and expressions. In the video, LGBTQ+ rights and the recognition of non-binary identities are discussed as part of the broader societal shifts in attitudes towards sexuality and gender.

Highlights

The family as the oldest human institution and its transformation over time.

The shift from kinship-based households to political and economic bureaucracy in modernity.

The increasing political regulation of personal and sexual behavior in the 20th century.

The connection between the sexual revolution and the current disputes over sexuality and gender.

The upsurge in anti-abortion movements and their link to freedom of sexual action.

The historical context of abortion struggles and the sexual revolution.

The transformation of societal attitudes towards nonmarital sex and its impact on family structure.

The evolution of the women's movement and the fight for equal legal rights and employment opportunities.

The emergence of the teenager as a new social category and its influence on crime rates and social movements.

The rise of the counterculture and its emphasis on antinomian values.

The changing trends in self-presentation and media depiction of sexualities.

The impact of the internet era on social movements and the ease of mobilization.

The potential future of the family as a privileged enclave in a society of isolated individuals.

The role of government regulations in shaping the future of the family and social institutions.

The intricate relationship between the anti-abortion movement and the defense of traditional family values.

The potential decline of the abortion issue due to less sexual activity among younger generations.

The internal divisions within the LGBTQ+ community and the challenges of forming a united political front.

The influence of the digitalization of relationships and its possible decivilizing effect on society.

The importance of understanding the knowledge position when formulating scientific statements about social issues.

Transcripts

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thank you very

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um Welcome to our final uh plary session

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with Professor Randall Collins uh all

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the way from California I think it's

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quite early in the morning uh for him

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I'm hoping he's go I know he's online

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I've seen his picture and I've sent him

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a text message I think he will be uh

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switched through to us uh any moment now

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but we're very fortunate to have two

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very distinguished American

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sociologists speaking there is hi

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Randall I'm just interrup I'm just

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introducing you sorry for the slight

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delay oh you're good great thanks um

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we've had two distinguished American uh

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sociologists speaking to us this

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afternoon even if uh even if uh Richard

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Senate now prefers to describe himself

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as an ex American um uh uh Randall

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Collins is widely recognized as I happen

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to know that yop hows Blum uh regarded

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Randall as the greatest living uh

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sociologist and if that doesn't put

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Randall off his stride at the beginning

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of this talk it'll be uh difficult to

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think of anything that would

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um I should tell you Randall that

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earlier this afternoon uh Richard Senate

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um Richard Senate spoke about uh Ukraine

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he was due to speak about performing um

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performing

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Civility and he said he thought it was

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in practice quite impossible not to talk

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about Ukraine well

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um randle's topic is uh sexual

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revolutions

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um uh sexual revolutions and the future

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of the family I'd be interested to see

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if he can make this read sexual

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revolutions the family and Ukraine but

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we won't challenge you to do that

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R Stephen I'm going to just stick to my

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text the family is the oldest human

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institution until the end of the Middle

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Ages the kinship based household was the

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building block of political and military

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power as well as economic production and

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consumption modernity began by replacing

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family organization with

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bureaucracy states began to regulate the

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Family household from outside inscribing

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everyone on the roles of the state as

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individuals the core of the family has

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become personal and sexual rather than

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political and

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econom what is personal and sexual has

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become Freer more a matter of individual

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choice at the same time sexual behavior

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has become subject to explicit political

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regulation either restricting or

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permitting from the early 20th century

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onwards there have been increasingly

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militant movements on one side or

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another of what is sexually permitted

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encouraged or

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prohibited in this context I will

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consider current disputes over sexuality

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and gender why is there an upsurge in

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anti-abortion movements just now I will

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argue that abortion is primarily about

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freedom of sexual

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action it is part of an overarching

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array of issues that include

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homosexuality which is to say more kinds

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of acceptable erotic practices

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also publicizing one's sexual identity

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in schools and using toilets and in

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festivals and parades not merely private

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freedom of sexuality but asserting it as

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one's Central identity politics has

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become much more centered on sexuality

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than at any time in

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history these movements are Allied to a

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united front with a struggle to

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eradicate gender

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distinctions both sides of the dispute

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mobilize move M ments and propos laws

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each protesting against the other in

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larger perspective it is a struggle over

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what remains of the family and what will

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replace it I will sketch the history of

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abortion struggles the sexual Revolution

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and nonmarital sex homosexual and

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transgender movements and the Battle of

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pronouns and the perceived decline of

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the family this will help answer the

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question why anti-abortion movements now

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I will end with some sociological tools

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for forecasting the future of the

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family I hope you'll excuse me for

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relying on American data some of these

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Trends originated in Europe on the whole

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it has been a worldwide trajectory with

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the notable exception of the Muslim

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World abortion is argued in

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philosophical and Theological terms on

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the one hand the protection and

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sacredness of life on the other the

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right to choose rights over one's own

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body but

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sociologically abstract ideas and

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beliefs are not the ultimate explanation

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of what people

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do it begs the question why do some

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people sometimes believe one way or the

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other when and why are they vehement

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about their beliefs when do they

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organize social and political movements

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about them arguments about abortion are

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stated altruistically it has nothing to

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do with me personally I am concerned for

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The Unborn children for the right to

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life generally on the pro-abortion side

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there is General AR the general argument

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that everyone has the right over one's

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own body but also sometimes personal I

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have the right to an abortion if I want

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one sociologically The Ground Zero is

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always pragmatic a practical matter of

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how people live what is the Human Action

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at issue behind the abortion

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argument abortion is about sex erotic

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Behavior why do some women want abortion

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because they have sex without marriage

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in premarital and extramarital sex it is

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freedom to without worrying about

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pregnancy and thus is also a form of

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birth control for married

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couples up through the early 20th

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century an unwanted pregnancy was a

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fatal life event for a woman the

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exception was for rich women who could

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keep it secret and farm out an unwanted

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child to a woman of the lower classes to

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care for it to have a child outside of

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wedlock was scandalous shameful to be

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hidden away if possible it was a badge

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of Shame punished by being ostracized

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The Scarlet Letter in Hawthorne's novel

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about New England Puritans worse yet the

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mother could be executed for murder if

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she had an abortion

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or dispose of the infant through

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infanticide this was the plot of G's

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F that was the historical scenario today

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some abortions happen because married

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women don't want to have a child at the

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time because the child is malformed

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because the mother is in danger or

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because it interrupts her career most

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abortions are to unmarried women in

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their

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20s the taboo on unmarried pregnancy

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fell away rap ridly in some countries

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first in Scandinavia then in the US in

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the 1950s and 60s in part this was

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because of much greater acceptance of

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sex before marriage in part because

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young middle class couples started

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living together without getting married

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a trend that grew very rapidly at the

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turn of the 1970s and was accepted

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surprisingly soon by the older

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population before that time living in

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sin as it was called or Shack up was

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regarded as something poor or non-white

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people did but within a few years it

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became normal to hear someone introduced

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as this is my partner rather than this

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is my husband or this is my wife the

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same terminological shift in ordinary

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language was adopted by homosexual

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couples who more recently have shifted

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back to using husband and husband or

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wife and wife after winning political

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and legal battles over gay

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marriage the political legal battle for

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abortion happened at the same time in

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Scandinavia limited abortion rights

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began in the 1930s and expanded in

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1973 the US Supreme Court ruled in the

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lawsuit Ro v Wade that abortion was a

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right covered in the abstract language

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of the Constitution the anti-abortion

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movement dates from that

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period the arguments are on the ground

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of legal philosophy translated into

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social practice to restore the ban on

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abortion means that sex should be

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confined to marriage this means rolling

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back the sexual revolution of mid 20th

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century on the other side my body is my

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own means in Practical terms I can have

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sex with whoever and whenever I want men

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traditionally had this right why

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shouldn't

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women we are approaching an answer to

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the question why is there a Resurgence

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of the anti-abortion movement just now

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which is to say a movement against

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casual non-marital sex this should be

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seen in the context of the sexual

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Revolution starting about 100 years

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ago the 1920s saw a revolution in

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courtship dating and partying replaced

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parents steering their children's

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marriage choices now the younger

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generation mixed Sexes without

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supervision creating a culture where

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drinking dancing and necking was a main

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excitement of life rather than a

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transition to marriage it was a

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rebellious thrill in the United States

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where alcohol was prohibited but the

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same style emerged in England and

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Germany

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also in the 1930s and 40s divorce began

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to be common no longer disreputable and

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scandalous by 1960 almost 50% of

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marriages were ending in divorce a level

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relatively constant since then the 1950s

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was also the era of the teenager a new

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social category working class youths no

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longer entered the labor force as

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Government made them attend secondary

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school with free time on their hands

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teens created gangs and Social Clubs got

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their own style of music and dancing

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with a tone of rebellion against the

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traditional middle class the rise in

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crime rates began at this time

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continuing from the 1950s into the

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1990s political and social movements had

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existed before what was different in the

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1960s was that they were based among the

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young during a huge increase in

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University

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students we called ourselves the new

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Left distinguished from the old left by

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being less concerned about ideology than

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lifestyle culture icons were the hippies

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dropouts from school and career living

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in communes where they shared

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psychedelic drugs and free love in

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reality most were weakend hippies and

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most of the free love commun

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disintegrated rather quickly over

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jealousy and Status ranking the main

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Legacy of the free love period was that

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cohabitation living together without

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getting married became widespread even

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becoming a census category in the

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1970s the 1970s were dominated by

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sexually based movements first the f

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movement sought equal legal rights and

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employment opportunities for women plus

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its militant lesbian Branch condemning

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sexual intercourse as the root of the

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problem in the 70s and increasing with

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each decade through the present a chain

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of homosexual movements demanded not

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only freedom from disc discrimination

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but the recognition of a new public

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vocabulary gender rather than sex gay

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rather than homosexual and so on this

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this has been a Cascade of movements

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each building on its predecessors in

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tactics ideology and lifestyle each

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finding a new issue on which to

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fight something deeper has been going on

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for a longer period of time like the new

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left the overall ethos has been

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antinomian the counterculture of status

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reversal these rebellious social

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movements were paralleled by shifts in

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self-presentation demeanor and in the

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mediate depiction of

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sexualities in the

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1920s women's skirts became shorter

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young women adopted a more Manish look

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they also began to show a lot more flesh

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body covering swimsuits became briefer

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women athletes exercised and competed in

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shorts the trend also existed in

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socialist and Soviet communist

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organizations and in the nudist movement

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popular in Germany in 1946 came the

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bikini created in France and named for

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an island where an atom bomb was

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exploded eventually there were men in

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thongs and women going topless at

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beaches the 60s and 70s were a weird

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mange of clothing fads granny dresses

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and throwback Sergeant Pepper uniforms

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nou jackets surgical smocks men in

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ponytails wearing Puka shell necklaces

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and Jewelry earrings most of these

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styles did not last long but the

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prevailing mood was a change for the

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sake of something different the

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long-term result was the casualness

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revolution also called

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informalization which triumphed in the

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1990s wearing blue jeans t-shirts and

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athletic clothes on All Occasions

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discarding neck ties and business suits

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calling Everyone by their first name no

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more use of titles and once polite forms

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of

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address simultaneously with these

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changes erotic hom

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heterosexuality was coming out of the

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closet in literature and the

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media the Jazz Age of the 1920s was

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originally named after a slang word for

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having sex novelists like Scott

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Fitzgerald and songwriters like Cole

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Porter were full of innuendo James

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Joyce's ulses in 1922 began literary

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depiction of the bodily details of sex

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followed by DH Lauren Hemingway Henry

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Miller and anas nin most of these were

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published in Paris but censored

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elsewhere until 1960 when their free

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publication fueled the sexual atmosphere

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of the

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counterculture in 1968 Hollywood film

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censorship changed to a rating system

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marketing soft porn as PG Parental

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Guidance and hard porn as

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x-rated the 70s was the era of the

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so-called pubic Wars glossy magazines

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with nude photos tested the borders of

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what could be displayed moving from

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breasts to pubic air hair to arouse

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genitals and by the 1980s to penetration

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and oral sex pornographic photos had

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existed before but they were cheaply

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produced and had a limited underground

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distribution now these were some of the

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biggest Mass distribution magazines sex

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magazines went into decline in the '90s

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replaced by porn sites on the

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internet it spilled over into language

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obscene words began to be used in

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political

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demonstrations then on t-shirts in

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fashion advertising and an ordinary

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middle class

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conversation the remaining Bastion of

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prohibition on obscene language is what

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could be said in School classrooms

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everywhere else flaunting overt sex has

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been a successful form of rebellion one

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might even say that the major line of

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conflict is no longer economic classes

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but a status division hip and cool

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versus square and

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straight homosexual sex came out of the

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closet as the same time as the porn

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Revolution gay porn magazines and film

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followed heterosexual men's magazines

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their circulation was never as wide

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Playboy and Penthouse reached peaks of 5

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to 7 million but the gay movement was

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more controversial and more activist

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it's spun off from resistance tactics of

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the Civil Rights Movement pushing back

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at police raids on gay bars and meeting

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places it became a Cascade of movements

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gay and lesbian joined by bisexual queer

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militant homosexuals rejecting gay

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marriage transgender transsexual and

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non-binary the growth of This Acronym

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now

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lgbtqi plus is it self a sociological

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phenomenon to be explained as new

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identities have been added every few

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years a trajectory likely to continue

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into the

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future a related issue has been sex

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education in the schools initially about

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contraceptives for the prevention of

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venial disease a term subsequently

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changed then expanding to teach children

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about homosexuality as an option in

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recent years there are movements among

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children as young as Elementary School

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demanding to be referred to by

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non-gendered pronouns and for government

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funded sex reassignment hormones or

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surgery the fields have struggled

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expanded gender-free toilets the Battle

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of pronouns Banning the words he and she

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in 2021 the US House of Representatives

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passed legislation Banning the use of

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gendered words father mother brother

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sister in government documents there are

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similar efforts to create gender neutral

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pronouns in French and Spanish although

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thus far not very

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popular the arena of such conflicts has

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become increasingly political as

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activists file lawsuits in the courts

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and demand new legislation escalation on

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one side leads to counter escalation on

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the other it is in this context that we

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can explain why the anti-abortion

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movement has become much more militant

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in the last few years

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in

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2019 abortions in the US were about 20%

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of live births but in fact the ratio has

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fallen from 25% 10 years earlier this is

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largely due to teenagers having fewer

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children and fewer abortions and to some

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extent due to the growth of

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homosexuality in the age group below 30

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the anti-abortion movement has not

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intensified because a dent abortion was

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growing worse it is just the most

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prominent way conservative legislators

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can strike back at the latest waves of

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sexual

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Revolution conservatives view these

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developments as the decline of morality

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and good taste the intrusion of

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government into the lives of their

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children and educational policies that

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they regard as

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indoctrination abortion is seen as part

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of the sexual Revolution run rampant

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separating sex from the family extoling

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forms of sex that turn traditional

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parent ing into an outdated

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status militants of homosexual movements

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have declared that heteronormativity is

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on its way out homosexuality has become

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more widespread it was less than 2% of

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the baby boom generation grew to almost

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4% of the generation born before 1980 9%

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of those who became adults around the

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year 2000 in so-called Generation Z now

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about 18 to 23 years old identifying as

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LGBT has jumped to

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16% this is still far from a majority

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but an expanding movement is full of

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aggressive confidence expecting a time

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when the heterosexual family is a quaint

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minority conservatives see the same

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Trend but from a different point of view

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the falling marriage rate the below

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replacement fertility now down to

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1.6 children per woman in the US the

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lowest in its history and even lower in

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parts of Europe 40% of all children born

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to unmarried parents more people are

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living alone proportionally more among

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the age 65 and older but in sheer

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numbers of households the largest number

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living alone are working age

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adults strict laws in American states

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banning abortion have been created in a

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situation where the political split

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between conservatives and liberals

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leaves neither of them with a firm

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majority at the federal level while

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conservatives fall back on regional

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state legislators which they control

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here also control over what goes on in

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the schools is increasingly

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contested abortion is just one issue in

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a divisive cluster of issues making

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abortion laws more restrictive will not

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save the family illegal abortions would

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reappear recapitulating the conflicts of

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the 19

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1960s conflict over abortion is a symbol

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of the bigger question what

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conservatives perceive as a

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multi-pronged assault on the

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family but there are reasons of a

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different sort why the family is not

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likely to disappear anytime

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soon when the feminist Revolution took

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off in the 1970s men soon discovered

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they had an economic interest in their

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wives careers a family with two middle

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class incomes could outspend a

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traditional male-headed upper middle

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class household two working class

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incomes put a family in the middle class

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expenditure bracket in the New Economic

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hierarchy the poorest families are those

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where one woman's income has to care for

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her children alone marriage and its

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shared property rights continues to be

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the buw workk of economic

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stratification from a radical left point

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of view this would a reason to abolish

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the family or at least take child raring

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away from the

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family the situation is complicated by

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gay marriage beginning with when gay

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couples demanded the tax and inheritance

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rights of marriage it also creates

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wealthy households since gay men are

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usually middle class or higher and two

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such incomes make them Big Spenders one

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reason why consumer Industries and

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advertising are so favorable to the gay

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movement on the other hand although gay

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couples sometimes adopt children or use

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sperm donors the number of children in

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gay marriages is small only 15% of

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same-sex Couples married or not have

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children and this is unlikely to

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compensate for the overall decline in

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childbearing there are about 1 million

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same-sex households in the US out of 128

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million households this is less than

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1% since about 13 million Americans

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identify as

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LGBT this implies that only one sixth of

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them are living with a sexual partner

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most of them are living alone the big

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increase in living alone may even be

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driven by the rise of homosexuality or

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perhaps vice

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versa this seems to be particularly true

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in big US cities such as Washington DC

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where one quarter of the adult

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population live alone in apartments

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making up half of all households

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Washington is also the the city where

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the largest percentage identify

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themselves as LBG LGBT at

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10% can sociology predict the future of

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the family what will happen hinges a

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great deal on government regulations and

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these depend on the mobilization of

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political movements against each other

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the internet era has made it easier for

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all sorts of movements to

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mobilize but government regulation may

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become a weapon by by which one side can

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censor the other and try to keep it from

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mobilizing the causes of conflict are

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easier to predict than the outcomes

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especially when the sides are relatively

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evenly

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balanced computerization and its

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offshoot the internet foreshadow a

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future in which almost everyone works at

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home manual work is done by robots

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everyone spends most their time

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communicating online or absorbed in

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online entertain attainment the

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generation brought up on the Internet is

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the shiest generation yet they have many

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online friends but few friends in the

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flesh they are less sexually active more

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anxious and fearful the issue of

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abortion may eventually decline because

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there is less sexual activity in the

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future generation the immersive virtual

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world of the internet strongly promoted

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by today's media capitalism may be

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destroying the family by making it

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easier to live physically solitary

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lives

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yet this may be why the family will

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survive not as the universal social

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institution but as a privileged

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Enclave it is privileged because the

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family is a place of physical contact of

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interaction rituals solidarity and

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emotional energy the family is also a

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place of reliable sex surveys show that

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married and cohabiting couples have have

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much more frequent sex than unpartnered

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individuals they don't have to spend

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time looking for partners add to that

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the two earner effect on household the

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income an incentive for the family to

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survive the trajectory of the last 100

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years has been to undermine the family

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but the rise of the disembodied computer

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world may change that I suspect we are

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heading towards a future where intact

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families father mother and their

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children of all ages are the dominant

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class economically and media networked

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or media addicted isolates living alone

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with their electronics are WS of the

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welfare state thank you for your

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[Applause]

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attention thank you

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Rell that's uh perfect timing too um we

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have 10 or 15 minutes uh perhaps uh uh

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for questions and discussion uh would

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anyone like to lead

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off well thank you very much Ral Collins

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for this uh very interesting

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lecture uh I have I I have a question

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about uh what what actually is the

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relation between the anti-abortion

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movement and this whole change in

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sexuality and and and and and family

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life uh if you if you if you think of

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the of the of the discourse of among the

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anti-abortionists what what they say

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they they do not refer so much to

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sexuality uh and and and say that that

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that uh sexuality should be confined to

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family life but their their first motive

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is that they

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say uh abortion is is murder and because

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because everyone after the conception a

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new uh living being with with a unique

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soul is born so abortion is just killing

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and that's against the law and it's

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agress and of course it's it's then

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legitimated in religious terms it's it's

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against it's forbidden by God so the

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anti-abortion movement is is very much

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of course related as you know with the

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Orthodox Christianity within within

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America and uh and Europe uh so what

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what do you think then I mean is is this

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just only the the uh superficial motiv

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and and and and the hidden motives are

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more refer to sexuality or what do you

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think about

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that oh so I got two uh uh points uh to

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make about that one one as I explained

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earlier on was that um the things that

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people say in general abstract

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principles are not really strong motives

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in what they in what they do um they're

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just way too unspecific in in addition

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when people are so we but we can turn

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this into an empirical question when

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when and under what conditions do people

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hold and

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express uh positions when do they

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express them more strongly when are they

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very w v about about them um so the uh

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the anti-ab verion movement um at least

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in the United States where I've observed

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it's gotten much more vehement in the

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last 10 years than uh than ever before

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uh and so you the the rhetoric has been

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the same throughout but uh the vehement

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has has uh changed

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uh the uh uh the other point I I want to

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make is that um the same people and the

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same uh conservative politicians who are

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U trying to pass and sometimes P passing

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very strict anti-abortion laws also are

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vehemently opposed to um

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uh uh the the the pronoun War uh

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uh same-sex

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bathrooms um uh talking about

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homosexuality as an option for children

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uh government uh funding uh sex change

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operations it seems to be a a complex of

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of issues and uh among the uh

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conservative

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commentators uh

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of many of them do bring it together as

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a question of the assault on the family

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as we know

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it thank

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you I think

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sorry I think from the point of view of

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Europeans rle the thing that most often

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puzzles us is how it's often the same

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people who are so vly opposed to gun law

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uh reform

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in other words the life of the child is

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H sacred but it's okay to shoot

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people yes well I mean actually sort of

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under underlying that there's actually

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be in the last few years there's been a

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big increase in purchase of guns and uh

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interviews with these people say the

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world is just a whole lot more dangerous

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now uh you know personally in uh I mean

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these personally in America I can't

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speak speak for elsewhere and they say

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we need these guns because the

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government's not going to protect us the

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government's really against us the

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government is against the police we have

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to protect ourselves so it's it's a part

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of a uh it's easy easy to see sort of

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philosophical contradictions of what

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people say but sort of on the Practical

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level what they feel is we are really

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Under Siege and and all the uh you know

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government Elites are against us and we

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have to defend

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ourselves is it on yes yes hello thank

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you very much for your very provocative

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talk I have a question on the um the

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combination of the different social um

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activist groups in the letter

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combination

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lgbtq plus um in some respects they are

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sometimes clustered together as being

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all on the same side and um being firmly

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on the um left leaning side uh but I

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think you can now see that parts of

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these letter combinations are actually

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very um uh vocal in um starting to fight

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among each other for instance um

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especially in the UK feminists are

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really vocal about um uh not um being on

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the well on the side of uh eliminating

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biology and saying that your sexuality

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your sex is not um is not relevant for

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how you identify so at least in Europe

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you already see opposition to that um

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well to being grouped together um do you

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think um that on the basis of such um um

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well such substance matter um that you

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can have sort of

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bipartisan new coalitions of feminists

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and um conservatives for instance um uh

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having uh creating new realignments on

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these issues thank you can you just

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identify yourself oh my name is

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Kel yes um you thank you for bringing up

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that uh this this point

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um uh political slogans about coalitions

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often are aspirational and and

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rhetorical it's very notable o over here

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here I'm speaking as a you know very

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American Centric because that's the

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sociology I know I'm I'm happy to you

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know hear about uh movements in the

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feminist movement in Britain uh the um

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the rainbow Co

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Coalition uh there uh has an ideology

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this this is sort of a combination of

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the Civil Rights Movement the uh uh

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uh the various G gay movements uh the uh

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defund the police movement and so forth

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but in reality isn't really true the uh

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the

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uh homosexuality is not really all that

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popular in the Black and Hispanic uh

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communities it's very much a movement of

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the white middle class but of course

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when you're doing a political movement

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you don't want to say say you know

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anything that you know disturbs the

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image of its being being uh United uh

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Charles Tilly in his general theory

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about social movements uh said that the

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movement always wants to make itself

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look like it's uh United and maximally

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determined uh but that's essentially the

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way it stages

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itself another

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question

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anybody want to pick up the point about

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the computerized future I mean this uh

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that's my talk I sort of brought two

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different phenomena together about about

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the future but I I think that's often

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the way history operates certain Trends

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get going and then something else comes

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out some other variable comes in from

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the side and and and very much shifts it

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and it's very striking how different the

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youngest generation is the one uh who

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have brought up their entire lives uh

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online hello Randall Collins how nice to

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see you uh I was thinking what if we

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thought about what the anti-abortion

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movement is in favor of the family the

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family is like the central value to them

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and their idea of the family is a man a

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woman who have children and who stick

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together uh and this family is under

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Threat by all sorts of things by

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immigrants by

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Libertines uh by the

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government and because the family is

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threatened the man should protect his

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family and he needs a gun to do so he

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needs capital punishment to make sure

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that per perp trators are get their due

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punishments and woman should stand next

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to her man in the fight he protects her

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she supports him they have an entire

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very positive ideology in positive terms

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they're not just

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anti-abortion they are against whatever

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undermines the traditional family and

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the hierarchy or maybe I should say the

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symbiosis between a man who protects and

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a woman who supports and educates

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children so I would like to have a

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positive account of the family

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movement also because for its

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explanatory

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value it's I mean I'm not taking sides

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I'm just trying to imagine how they

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feel well there uh has been a movement

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in the United States called the

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promisekeepers which fits exactly the

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you description that you made I mean

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it's a a sort of non denominational

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Christian uh movement uh that uh says

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that you know men themselves should you

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get active in defending the family and

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not just leave it to to the the women uh

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the at the same time there are uh

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certain sociological trends that have

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been going on that

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um I think tend to make families more

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egalitarian than they were before I

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mentioned one of them which is that um

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men have an economic interest in having

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uh wives who uh have good careers uh the

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you know so that uh at the very top of

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the uh hierarchy um sort of doesn't

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matter whether Jeff Bezos is married or

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not uh he's got so much more money than

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any anyone else but in the upper middle

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class uh if you take that uh just in

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terms of household income and and ignore

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what the occupations are uh if you've

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got two people have middle class incomes

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they will be in it if you have one man

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with a middle class income and a wife

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who doesn't work they have an in they

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have a a h household expenditure very

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much like the working class so there is

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an economic incentive

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for men to be at least in C practical

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sense feminists like they're in FA favor

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of uh their wife's career there's

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there's another uh Trend which is uh

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again not noticeable in In America which

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I'm going to make no V judgment about

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this but just uh mention it and that is

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the women are getting more armed

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too um if you look at the crime

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statistics uh there is increasing uh

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proportion of violent Crimes by uh uh

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women and in the most recent concern

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about defunding the

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police uh there's been a a very large

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increase in number of people buying guns

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and the largest percentage of that is uh

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women buying guns I mean so you're kind

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of seeing in an odd way a certain amount

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of feminization of the right uh to go

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along with you know obviously a big

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feminization of of the left and and the

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center uh so it's that part of it I

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think is actually a a good

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Trend um hello I'm Natalie enck and I'm

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very pleased to meet you even if it's a

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distance thank you for this very

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suggestive uh talk and uh listening to

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you I thought that maybe we should

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distinguish two movements in what you

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described the first one is about sexual

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Liberation let's say um which began in

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the 20th century and especially after

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the second world war and after this

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movement in which the movements

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pro-abortion took place we have another

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movement which is very um similar but

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different at the same time which is the

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digitalization of sexual relationship

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ship of relationship in general and

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sexual relationship in particular

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through the internet which is another uh

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movement which comes after the first

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wave of uh the sexual Revolution and if

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we come back to Elias's Concepts I

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wondered whether um this second wave

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digitalization of relationship is not uh

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doesn't mean a kind of

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decivilization process de civiliz it's

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very difficult in French decivilizing

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process because the absence of physical

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uh relationship between people the uh

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distant relationship allows a lowering

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of the constraints allows more violence

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allows less uh civility in

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relationship and I wondered whether this

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first wave of sexual Revolution hasn't

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been

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uh accelerated and directed until a

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decivilizing process through the

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internet uh yes that's um I I think you

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know quite a a a good way to uh uh

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conceptualize the uh you know uh

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computerization

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digitalization of of social

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relationships and therefore of sex so I

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uh mentioned um if you compare sexual

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activity across Generations then you you

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find that in the most recent two

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generations uh uh these uh young people

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are uh starting their sex lives uh later

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uh having uh uh less actual sexual

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relationships uh I haven't seen a a

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close analysis of uh

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specifically sexual or romantic uh

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relationships uh

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online uh but uh some of the data I've

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have seen in a different context uh is

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that uh the

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uh uh the youngest generation of college

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students are uh very anxious about uh

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dealing with uh other

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students uh and some of that is a sexual

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an

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anxiety uh one peculiar finding uh was

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uh that uh women who identified

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as

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uh lesbian

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or acronym uh were more worried about

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being raped on campus uh which sounds to

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me like a a uh a symbolic issue more

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more than a real one although certainly

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could you know look into the data on

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that um I I mentioned uh that

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um the the big rise in living

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alone and uh it uh if you put this

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together with people living their lives

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online the two things seem to be very

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compatible they sort of less comp

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compatible if you're living with a bunch

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of other people it's not that they're

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not online also but I suspect that the

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Lesser percentage of their life is being

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spent uh

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online um

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the uh I I gave some statistics at the

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end of the talk but let me to consider

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the hypothesis that living the increase

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in people living alone particularly

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among the youngest uh generation may

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have to do with the increase of

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homosexuality that is if if you're

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homosexual uh there's uh less reason for

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you to uh want to uh actually be engaged

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with other people or to put it another

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way I have the impression that a

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considerable percentage of say that's

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16% who identify with I am

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LGBT uh may not actually be practicing

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homosexuals particularly if a lot of

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them are are very young so one of the

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things that the big issue is about uh

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should uh

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children um be allowed to uh change

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their

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sex uh and uh and should the government

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help them them them do that well I mean

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so if you if you get it a young young

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enough age clearly enough you can uh

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change your identity to uh

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nonheterosexual without uh being

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sexually active so it maybe we are

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heading in that direction I mean so that

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this this topic is uh you can kind start

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out with the beginning of it sort of

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basic wig history of yeah everything

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used to be very repressive and then then

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it opened up but history is not a moving

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in a straight line and uh the

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sociological news of recent times is hey

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maybe there's maybe quite a big uh turn

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going on

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now well I am miklos hadash from Hungary

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at

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University um you use the term several

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time by saying

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lgbtq plus

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Group Well if we would like to uh choose

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an other

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perspective we might say that there are

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important internal gaps within this Camp

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let me give you an example uh for

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instance queer Scholars or the

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representants of qu studies identify

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themselves against gays and lesbians

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saying that they have a stable

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identity well what I would like to uh

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illustrate that the knowledge position

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is very important when we would like to

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formulate scientific statements I do

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agree with Donna her uh who is an

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excellent standpoint feminist when she

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says that uh

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only um contextual situated knowledge uh

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might Empower us to formulate um

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objective statement so what I would like

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to ask how could you define your

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perspective your knowledge position

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where are you speaking from when you

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speak about uh these

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issues

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I I've used the the term LGBT in this

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talk uh because it's a conventional term

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of reference terms are in my opinion not

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something to argue about they're just

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terms of convenience like we know what

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we're talking about now that we know we

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can talk about we can argue about it we

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can attack each other we can say you

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have a poor epistemology or so forth but

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nevertheless we need to have terms like

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that I mean I uh

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made the comment that um this started

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out as uh be being a a uh movement that

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call itself the gay movement then other

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things added on to it I thought

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i' sociologically have been a little bit

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interested in the queer movement

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precisely because this is sort of like

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the radicals of the movement uh among

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among other things uh the uh movement in

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favor of gay marriage is attacked as

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well you know you're becoming Bourgeois

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you're selling out you're going back to

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going back to the family I'm not making

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any I'm not making any value judgment

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about that uh because as a sociologist

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I'm trying to find out uh you know

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what's going on what's the best way to

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analyze that and I think that's the best

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way to do it rather than sort finger

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pointing and uh attacking people for

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trying to be

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sociological I think that's

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probably I think that um is probably the

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point at which we should thank

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Randall uh and it's

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the it's also the close of the

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conference Randall um might I say that I

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quote before he has

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[Applause]

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this you notice that I miscued the

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Applause for you my apologies for that

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um I qu right at the beginning of the

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conference I quoted Randall having said

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to me yope always wrote about important

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things and the same is true of Randall

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himself uh as we have seen and uh the

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connection we have with Randall is one

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that we all uh value

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I've been asked to say a few words by

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way of reflection which is more

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difficult and challenging and thanks

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which is easy um let me start with the

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thanks then that um thanks to the

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organizing committee Johan hon who did a

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great deal of the organization over the

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last 12 months or whatever it is and we

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haven't been able to see him because he

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went down with Co

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the day before the conference

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started which is

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awful um ni wilterding who is also

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[Applause]

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current oh is he Johan are you there can

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you be conjured onto the

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screen yes as well thanks thanks for all

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your work any

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here

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um

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careful

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um Aran Arian post who has been equally

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busy in the committee uh

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as who's also Secretary of the nor Elias

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foundation and I particularly want to

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draw attention to the um

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understated uh work of uh Emma vaner

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Marl

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[Applause]

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um who has fetched and carried things

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including speakers um and V Franson uh

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who's seems to have seems to have been

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doing a lot of the

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electronics uh

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um I want to thank the participants both

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here and

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online and particularly the the the full

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range we're a little un underpopulated

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at the end of the conference but it's

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been a large conference particularly

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when you count the number of people who

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were taking part actively in many cases

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by Zoom from great distances and um

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we've had a terrific array of of papers

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I believe the intention is that at least

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some of them will find their way into a

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special issue of historical social

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research

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um what else to say

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yes there is another conference in the

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offing uh it's a little uncertain but uh

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as to date but uh uh book Holts and I

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have been planning a conference in

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Warsaw or

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online uh it had to be postponed because

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of everything being postponed by the uh

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the pandemic and we we need to get back

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to you with it was announced and then

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postponed we think it will take place in

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December and the topic which I think

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will follow follow on nicely from many

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of our discussions in this one is the

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fantasy reality Continuum one of

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Elias's key Concepts and one which may

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have seemed a little

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abstract uh in sociological circles

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until recently and now we see the sheer

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horror of how practical and important it

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is that human groups can slide between

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fantasy and reality and um it's not that

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fantasy is necessarily A Bad Thing it

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fulfills its purposes nor butt used to

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say for

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Fantasy I do poetry um but uh very often

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put a fantasy has more practical

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purposes but as I was saying in respon

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responds to uh R to Richard Senate uh

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earlier um there is a sense in which uh

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the sheer level of ludicrous fantasy

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that has spread in places where perhaps

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we wouldn't have expected it to spread

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like America is now quite

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dangerous uh not to mention the fantasy

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views of one um poutin um so I hope that

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many of you will want to gather again

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and I do hope that at least in part it

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may be a an in-person Gathering because

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in the end although it's more exhausting

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to mix with people hour by hour than it

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is to sit at home online uh in the end

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there's no substitution for no

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substitute for meeting in in

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person finally I hope that we have done

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Justice to the memory of Johan HS Blum

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um and uh I think his

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presence uh has been running right

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through the conference and I hope he

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would have been pleased at the way we

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have um commemorated him thanks and have

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a good journey

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[Applause]

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home

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thank you st also organiz so

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[Applause]

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I I only have to deal with the

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vi

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