The Galileo Myth

Breaking In The Habit
21 Mar 201611:30

Summary

TLDRThis video script challenges the popular narrative of Galileo's conflict with the Church, suggesting that the 'Galileo was tortured for his scientific views' story is a myth that emerged in the 1800s. It argues that the Church has historically supported science and that Galileo's real issue was his lack of empirical evidence and aggressive behavior. The script also discusses various models of the relationship between science and religion, advocating for a correlation model where both can coexist without contradiction, as truth cannot contradict truth.

Takeaways

  • πŸ“š The common narrative of Galileo's conflict with the Church is a myth that emerged in the late 1800s, not a historical account of the actual events.
  • πŸ€” The Church has historically supported and been at the forefront of scientific advancements, contrary to popular belief.
  • πŸ—£οΈ Public figures like Bill Maher and some religious leaders perpetuate the idea of an inherent conflict between science and religion, which is not universally accepted.
  • 🌍 The debate between science and religion is often fueled by high-profile confrontations, such as the one between Bill Nye and Ken Ham, which do not represent the views of all scientists or religious individuals.
  • πŸ“ˆ In Galileo's time, there was no scientific consensus on the heliocentric model, and Galileo's own evidence was not as robust as needed to prove his claims.
  • πŸ’¬ Galileo's troubles with the Church were as much due to his aggressive and confrontational manner as they were to any supposed conflict between his science and religious doctrine.
  • πŸ›οΈ Galileo was not tortured by the Church; instead, he was placed under house arrest in comfortable conditions where he continued his work.
  • πŸ“– The story of Galileo as a martyr for science was crafted during the Enlightenment by figures like Voltaire to criticize the Church and promote a secular worldview.
  • πŸ”¬ Many scientists and religious figures throughout history have not seen a conflict between their faith and scientific inquiry, including modern scientists who are also religious.
  • ✝️ The Catholic Church teaches a correlation model where scientific truth and divine revelation are not in conflict but can inform and enrich each other.

Q & A

  • What is the common misconception about Galileo's conflict with the Church?

    -The common misconception is that Galileo was persecuted by the Church because his scientific views contradicted the Bible, leading to his torture. However, this narrative was not prevalent until the late 1800s and does not fully represent the historical context.

  • How does the script challenge the idea that religion and science are inherently at odds?

    -The script argues that throughout history, the Church has often supported and been at the forefront of scientific advancements, suggesting that the conflict is not inherent but rather a result of specific historical narratives.

  • What role did Galileo's personality and approach play in his troubles with the Church?

    -Galileo's brash and aggressive presentation of his theories, along with his disregard for the Church's instructions and smear campaigns against the Pope and other scientists, contributed significantly to his troubles.

  • Why was Galileo put on trial according to the script?

    -Galileo was put on trial not because his findings contradicted the Bible, but because he was teaching as fact what he could not scientifically prove, and he had previously promised the Church not to teach such unproven theories.

  • How was Galileo treated during his trial and after his conviction?

    -Contrary to the myth of torture, Galileo was treated well during his trial, housed in a luxurious hotel, and after conviction, he was given house arrest in a comfortable country home where his daughter cared for him.

  • Who are John William Draper and Andrew Dixon White, and how are they related to the Galileo myth?

    -John William Draper and Andrew Dixon White are 19th-century authors who propagated the conflict narrative between religion and science, including the Galileo myth, in their works, which significantly influenced the popular understanding of this historical event.

  • What is the 'concert model' mentioned in the script, and why is it considered flawed?

    -The 'concert model' suggests that science and religion are perfectly in sync, with scientific findings supporting religious teachings. It is considered flawed because it tries to force coherence where none exists, reducing the complexity of both science and religion.

  • What is the 'contrast model' and why does the script argue against it?

    -The 'contrast model' posits that science and religion are separate and non-overlapping, with each having its own domain. The script argues against it because science and religion often address the same topics, and truth from both domains should not contradict each other.

  • What is the 'correlation model' and how does it view the relationship between science and religion?

    -The 'correlation model' is the belief that since God is the creator of all, scientific truths and divine revelations cannot fundamentally contradict each other. It suggests that apparent contradictions indicate a misunderstanding in one's interpretation of either science or revelation.

  • How does the script suggest Christians should view science?

    -The script suggests that Christians should view science as a valuable resource that can guide theological thinking and be informed by an understanding of God's creation, aligning with the Church's historical stance.

  • What does the script imply about the modern perception of the relationship between religion and science?

    -The script implies that while the conflict model is still propagated by some, most religious people and scientists do not see an inherent conflict between religion and science, and that the relationship is more complex and nuanced than often portrayed.

Outlines

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πŸ“š The Myth of Galileo's Persecution

This paragraph challenges the popular narrative that Galileo was persecuted by the Church for his scientific views. It suggests that the Church has historically supported science and that the conflict between Galileo and the Church was more nuanced than often portrayed. The paragraph also critiques the idea that religion and science are inherently at odds, highlighting that there are many religious individuals who embrace science. The story of Galileo's supposed torture by the Church is questioned, with the suggestion that this narrative was a later invention to discredit the Church.

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🌟 The Role of Religion in Scientific History

The second paragraph delves into the historical contributions of Christianity to science, refuting the notion that religion has been a consistent adversary of scientific progress. It mentions that many early scientists were religious and that the Church has often been a patron of scientific inquiry. The paragraph also addresses the influence of certain 19th-century authors who propagated the conflict narrative between religion and science, which has been largely debunked by modern historians. It emphasizes that the majority of religious people, including scientists, do not see an inherent conflict between their faith and scientific pursuits.

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πŸ” Models of Religion and Science Interaction

The final paragraph discusses different models for understanding the relationship between religion and science. It critiques the 'concert model' which suggests an artificial harmony between the two, and the 'contrast model' which posits that science and religion operate in completely separate realms. The paragraph advocates for the 'correlation model', which is based on the idea that truth from both science and revelation cannot contradict each other. It emphasizes the Church's historical stance that science should inform and be informed by theological understanding, and encourages a dialogue between the two to deepen our knowledge of God's creation.

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Keywords

πŸ’‘Galileo

Galileo Galilei was an Italian astronomer, physicist, and engineer who played a major role in the scientific revolution during the Renaissance. In the video, Galileo is discussed in the context of his conflict with the Church, which is often cited as an example of religion opposing science. The script challenges the common narrative by suggesting that Galileo's troubles were more due to his lack of empirical evidence and his aggressive presentation of his theories rather than a fundamental opposition between science and religion.

πŸ’‘Copernicus

Nicolaus Copernicus was a Renaissance mathematician and astronomer who formulated a heliocentric model of the universe, placing the Sun at the center of the system. The video mentions Copernicus in relation to Galileo's support for his model, which was a point of contention with the Church at the time. The debate over whether the Earth was the center of the universe (as per Ptolemy's geocentric model) or if the Sun was (as per Copernicus's heliocentric model) was a central scientific issue of Galileo's era.

πŸ’‘Empirical Evidence

Empirical evidence refers to information that is obtained through observation and experimentation. In the video, it is highlighted that Galileo lacked sufficient empirical evidence to support his heliocentric model, which was a significant factor in his conflict with the Church. The script emphasizes the importance of empirical evidence in the scientific method and how Galileo's lack of it contributed to his troubles.

πŸ’‘Enlightenment

The Enlightenment was an intellectual and philosophical movement in Europe during the 17th and 18th centuries that emphasized reason, individualism, and skepticism. The video suggests that the narrative of Galileo as a martyr for science against an irrational Church began to grow during the Enlightenment, particularly with figures like Voltaire, who sought to portray the Church as antithetical to reason and science.

πŸ’‘Conflict Model

The conflict model is a historical view that suggests an inherent and ongoing conflict between science and religion. The video critiques this model, arguing that it is based on a misunderstanding of history and that many religious figures have been supportive of scientific inquiry. The script points out that this model was propagated by certain 19th-century authors and has been perpetuated despite historical and contemporary evidence to the contrary.

πŸ’‘Concert Model

The concert model is one of the ways the relationship between science and religion is conceptualized. It suggests that science and religion are in harmony, with each providing complementary truths. The video critiques this model for trying to force coherence between scientific facts and religious texts, which can cheapen both by misrepresenting their purposes.

πŸ’‘Non-overlapping Magisteria

Non-overlapping magisteria is a concept that suggests science and religion operate in separate domains and thus do not conflict. The video mentions this as part of the contrast model, which posits that science and religion address different aspects of reality and should not be in conflict. However, the script argues that this model fails because science and religion often address the same topics, such as the origin of the universe or human nature.

πŸ’‘Correlation Model

The correlation model is the view that science and religion can coexist without contradiction because both can reveal truths about the world and its creation. The video supports this model, suggesting that truth from science and truth from revelation should not conflict, and any apparent contradictions indicate a misunderstanding of either science or revelation. This model is aligned with the Catholic Church's historical stance on the relationship between faith and reason.

πŸ’‘Scripture

Scripture refers to the sacred texts of a religion, in this case, the Bible for Christianity. The video discusses how some interpretations of scripture, particularly literal interpretations, can conflict with scientific findings. It argues against reading scripture as a science textbook and for understanding it in its proper theological and poetic context.

πŸ’‘Heliocentric Model

The heliocentric model is the astronomical model that places the Sun at the center of the solar system, with the planets orbiting around it. The video discusses Galileo's support for this model, which was a departure from the then-accepted geocentric model. The heliocentric model is a key point in the historical debate over the nature of the universe and the Church's response to scientific theories.

Highlights

The common narrative of Galileo's conflict with the Church is a myth that originated in the late 1800s.

The Church has historically been a supporter and leader in the advancement of science.

The perception of religion as the enemy of science is not supported by historical evidence.

Galileo's troubles stemmed more from his brash presentation of unproven theories rather than a scientific-religious conflict.

Many scientists of Galileo's time argued for both the Copernican and Ptolemaic models, indicating scientific disagreement.

Galileo's scientific evidence was not as robust as needed to support his claims at the time.

Galileo's trial was not for scientific heresy but for teaching unproven theories as fact.

The Church was open to new scientific findings and willing to reinterpret Scripture if properly evidenced.

Galileo was not tortured but was given a comfortable house arrest where he furthered his research.

The myth of Galileo as a martyr for science was propagated during the Enlightenment to discredit the Church.

The conflict model between religion and science was popularized in the 19th century by certain authors.

Many religious individuals, including scientists, do not see an inherent conflict between faith and science.

Historians have rejected the conflict model, and most scientists acknowledge no inherent discord between religion and science.

The Church promotes a correlation model where scientific truth and divine revelation are seen as complementary.

The Church encourages the use of reason and scientific exploration as gifts from God.

Science should guide theological thinking and be informed by an understanding of God's creation.

Transcripts

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everyone's heard the story of Galileo's

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run-in with the church after proposing a

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view of the universe backed by science

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but contradicting the Bible the church

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declared his work heretical and tortured

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him because the church doesn't like

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science or so the story goes but what if

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I told you that this version of history

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wasn't told until the late 1800s and the

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church has not only supported science

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throughout its entire history it has

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often been on the forefront of making it

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better

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in our public sphere science and

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religion are at odds on the one hand

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there are people like Bill Maher who

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believe that religion is the enemy of

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all things intellectual I do admit there

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are things in the universe I don't

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understand okay but my response to that

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is not to make up silly stories to

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believe intellectually embarrassing

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myths from the Bronze Age but you

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believe whatever you want on the other

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hand there are zealous religious leaders

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who believe that science is a threat to

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the Bible and faith instead of looking

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for the truth of the creator described

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in his divinely revealed book science

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has chosen confusion suppositions and

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deceit with millions of ministers and

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parishioners following blindly as a

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result we're left with ridiculous things

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like this debate between scientists Bill

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Nye and creationist museum founder

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Canham and attempt to once and for all

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prove who's right religion or science oh

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it's because of things like this that

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we're constantly told that science and

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religion are at odds scientists should

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fear religion because of what happened

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to Galileo and Christians should fear

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science because Charles Darwin in the

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modern scientific movement challenged

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our faith but or either of these things

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true the legend of the Galileo if

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there's much more famous of the facts so

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that mean though the facts are we mean

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Galileo got in trouble right but the

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legend is is because of science and

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religion or in conflict the reality is

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that in Galileo's time there are plenty

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of scientists on both sides that the

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question of whether the world was as

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Copernicus said it was or as Ptolemy

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said it was they were first Sun at the

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center of the system and there was

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enough evidence at the time to know for

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sure which was true at the time there

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were a lot of reputable scientists

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arguing for the other side and Galileo

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didn't have sufficient empirical

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evidence what science is based on to

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actually prove what he was claiming some

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of his evidence was actually kind of

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laughable today like the fact that the

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waves of the ocean were caused by the

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Earth's rotation that's just bad science

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but with Galileo lacked in scientific

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proof was nothing compared to what he

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lacked intact is very brash and

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aggressively he presented the theory he

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presented it in Italian

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rather than Latin and that offended a

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lot of people he made the Copernican

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system a system that was favored by a

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lot of clerics and philosophers and

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just he made them sound like they were

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just stupid

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so he got a lot of people angry and

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that's partly what got him into trouble

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taken together it's no wonder that

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Galileo was eventually silenced he

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presented a new theory for which he did

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not have sufficient evidence and when

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told not to teach things he couldn't

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prove he attacked the church the Pope

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and even his fellow scientists with

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smear campaigns not exactly a charmer

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that Galileo

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in 1633 after Galileo ignored the

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church's cease and desist order he was

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brought to trial but it's important to

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get the facts straight about this trial

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Galileo was not put on trial because his

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scientific findings contradicted the

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Bible according to Robert Bellarmine

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sankt and doctor in the Catholic Church

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and one of the most important figures of

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Galileo's time the church was open to

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new findings and he is even well-known

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to have said that if evidence was

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properly put forth the church would have

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to reconsider its interpretation of

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certain passages of Scripture no Galilei

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was actually put on trial because his

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scientific findings were very

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unscientific he was teaching as fact

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what he could not prove his fact

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something that many scientists of his

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day disagreed with more importantly he

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was teaching as fact with he had

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promised before a court a decade earlier

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to no longer teach this is why Galileo

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was condemned but does that really

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warrant torture on the part of the

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church sure he was guilty but it seems a

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bit extreme that's an excellent question

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if in fact Galileo was ever actually

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tortured in reality he was treated well

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in his final trial housed in a luxurious

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hotel overlooking the Vatican garden and

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assigned a personal valet when he was

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eventually convicted he was given house

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arrest in a country home near Florence

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where his daughter took care of him it

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was here in the comfort and isolation of

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his final years that he finally produced

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the evidence we use today to support his

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system so where does the story of

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Galileo that I was taught in school come

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from the legend begins to grow kind of

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in the early modern era with the

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Enlightenment to people like Voltaire

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who want to make the church look as bad

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as possible as irrational as possible to

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present the church and Christianity as

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antithetical to reason to science to

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progress in Galilei who became a useful

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story to make that claim and it became a

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kind of martyr for science which he

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never was well there are many factors

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that led up to this this conflict model

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as it is called between religion and

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science can really be attributed to two

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men in the 19th century John William

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Draper who wrote history of conflict

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between religion and science and Andrew

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Dixon white who wrote a history of the

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warfare of science with theology in

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Christendom it's from these men that we

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get not only the popular stories of

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Galileo but also the myth that people

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the Middle Ages believed that the earth

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was flat the idea that the church

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suppressed scientific study and

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condemned scientists and that

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Christianity is a stupid religion that

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is inherently at odds with science

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anyone who has studied Christianity for

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a minute knows that these are blatantly

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untrue statements besides the fact that

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even ancient theologians like Augustine

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understood the story of Genesis

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shouldn't be taken literally at the

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expense of empirical observation

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Christians have always been at the

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forefront of scientific study we founded

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universities to study the natural world

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formulated the earliest scientific

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method and paved the way for modern

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scientific inquiry in the modern era

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jean-baptiste Lamarck proposed the

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theory of evolution 100 years before

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Darwin Gregor Mendel and Augustinian

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friar is regarded as the father of

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genetics in the Big Bang Theory you know

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the best explanation we have for the

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creation of all things in the universe

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yeah first proposed by Father George

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Lemaitre Catholic priests and they say

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the church doesn't like science

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seriously and yet these books by Draper

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and white were not only influential in

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the scientific communities propagating

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suspicion towards religion because of

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stories like Galileo's they were picked

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up by conservative and fundamentalist

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Christians as well science was the enemy

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of religion a threat to biblical

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interpretation of faith despite the fact

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that Darwin himself said that his

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findings were not incompatible with

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faith in God some Christians fed into

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the conflict model and hold it even

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today luckily this is a very small

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number of people historians in the 1970s

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outright rejected this view of history

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and most of the best scientists of the

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world admit that there is no inherent

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conflict between religion and science

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most religious people in America fully

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embrace science so the the argument that

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religion has some issue with science

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applies to a small fraction of those who

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declare that they are religious

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they just happen to be a very vocal

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fraction and so you get the impression

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that there's more of them than there

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actually a considerate also that in

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America forty percent of American

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scientists are religious so this notion

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that there's some that if you're

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scientist you're an atheist or if you're

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religious you're not a scientist that

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just empirically false

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it's an empirically false statement but

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just because most people don't see an

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inherent conflict between the two

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doesn't mean that everyone fully

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understands how they should be related

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in fact there are three other models for

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understanding the relationship - that

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have pretty obvious flaws and the one

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the church professes the first flawed

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model is called the concert model in

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this way of thinking science and

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religion are playing perfectly in sync

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all the notes lining up in harmony if we

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look hard enough into the world

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proponents say we can find scientific

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proofs for all the teachings in the

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Bible for instance science tells us that

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first that life began in the oceans then

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emerged on land and Genesis life begins

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in the ocean and then life appears on

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the land that's coincidence but if you

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want to have this concert Madhi want to

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have what science tells you and what the

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Bible tells you agree see what all the

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miracle stories to have scientific

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explanations or naturalistic

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explanations it's we're just trying to

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make them completely coherent the

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problem of course is that they are not

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completely coherent because they were

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never meant to be that way to read

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scripture as if it were a science

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textbook when it was written as poetry

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or theology cheapens both scripture and

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science and yet turn on the History

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Channel right now and you'll probably

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find someone trying to explain how they

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cross the Red Sea because of the rare

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climatological occurrences or how

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explorers might have found Noah's Ark in

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a mountain somewhere missing the point a

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bit as a response to this model others

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have gone the opposite direction

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proposing what is called the contrast

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model sometimes this contrast model

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spoken of as two separate men

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non-overlapping magisteria that science

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does what it does religion does what it

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does and they have nothing good to do

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with each other but not in conflict

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they're just not really talking to each

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other or about the same things the

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problem with this model quite obviously

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is that science and religion are often

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talking about the exact same thing

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the creation of the world what it means

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to be human sexuality ethics there's no

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doubt there's a different way of

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understanding these things science being

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based on pure empiricism and religion

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incorporating divine revelation but the

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content and purpose of their study is

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often the same for this reason we get to

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the final most coherent model the model

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that the church has supported for

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centuries the correlation model based on

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the belief that the triune God is the

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creator and animated of all that exists

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Catholics have always proposed that

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everything can reveal something about

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God not just divine revelation in

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Scripture so in other words the church

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would say and people have often said

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truth cannot contradict truth so if

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science is a path to truth and

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revelations a path to truth these two in

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some ways they cannot contradict if it

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seems they contradict there's some

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problem in the way you understand the

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science or some problem the way you

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understand revelation with this model

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leaves us with and what the Catholic

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Church has taught for centuries is that

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we need to take to heart with st. Paul

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wrote in the first letter to the

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Thessalonians test everything keep what

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is true God gave us the ability to

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reason to think to explore into dialogue

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why would we want to deny one of the

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faculties God gave us is a grave mistake

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for us as Christians to view Sciences

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anything other than an incredible

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resource something that should guide our

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theological thinking and be guided by

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what we know about God's creation that's

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the way we've always understood it and

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the way we always should thanks to dr.

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David Bosworth for helping with this

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conversation as well as for all the work

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