Jeffrey Dahmer's Father Talks (Lionel Dahmer Interview) | Dahmer On Dahmer | Felony Files

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Summary

TLDRThe video script delves into the life of Jeffrey Dahmer, a notorious serial killer, exploring his seemingly normal childhood and affluent upbringing. It discusses the absence of any traumatic early experiences that often precede such behavior, yet points to potential influences like his mother's mental illness and medication during pregnancy. The script also touches on Dahmer's interest in taxidermy and his increasingly strange and disturbing behaviors in adolescence, which were overlooked by those around him. It raises questions about the complex interplay of factors that may contribute to the development of a serial killer.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ˜ถ The individual denies any history of abuse or trauma during their childhood, which is often associated with the development of serial killers.
  • ๐Ÿก They grew up in a seemingly normal and affluent household, with a father who had a doctoral degree in chemistry.
  • ๐Ÿคฐ The person's mother suffered from mental illness and took a variety of medications, including antidepressants, while pregnant, which could have affected the fetus.
  • ๐Ÿšซ There was a lack of physical contact with the individual as a baby due to their mother's fear of germs and her own mental health issues.
  • ๐Ÿงณ The individual felt left out when a younger sibling was born, as their mother stopped reading them bedtime stories and providing affection.
  • ๐Ÿพ In high school, the individual developed an interest in taxidermy and experimented with preserving animal remains, which could be seen as a precursor to later behaviors.
  • ๐Ÿค” The individual's father, Lionel, believes that there was no single event or history that could have predicted their son's future actions.
  • ๐Ÿ‘ฅ High school friends noticed a change in the individual's behavior, with them acting erratically and seeking to shock others.
  • ๐Ÿ“ธ There's a mention of a disturbing high school yearbook photo incident where the individual's face was blacked out in group photos.
  • ๐Ÿบ The individual began drinking alcohol at a young age, using it as a means to cope with his growing dark desires and fantasies of control and dominance.
  • ๐Ÿ”ฎ The individual's fantasies evolved from thoughts to a desire to enact them in reality, experiencing a mix of excitement, fear, and pleasure.

Q & A

  • Did Jeffrey Dahmer have any traumatic experiences in his childhood that could have contributed to his later behavior?

    -According to the script, there were no instances of abuse or any other traumatic experiences in Jeffrey Dahmer's childhood. His father described his upbringing as normal and in a good home.

  • What was the impact of Jeffrey Dahmer's mother's mental illness and medication on his development?

    -Jeffrey's mother, Joyce, struggled with mental illness and took various medications, including antidepressants and growth hormones, while pregnant with him. Doctors suggested that these medicines could have affected the fetus, potentially influencing Jeffrey's development.

  • How did Jeffrey Dahmer's relationship with his family, particularly his mother, affect him as a child?

    -Jeffrey's mother was very protective and had a fear of germs, which led to limited physical contact with Jeffrey as a baby. His grandparents were not allowed to hold him, and even his mother rarely touched him except for necessary care.

  • What changes occurred in Jeffrey Dahmer's behavior after his younger brother was born?

    -Following the birth of his younger brother, Jeffrey noticed a change in his mother's attention, as she no longer read him fairy tales or tucked him in at night, leading him to feel somewhat left out.

  • What was Jeffrey Dahmer's interest in high school that might have been a precursor to his later actions?

    -Jeffrey Dahmer was interested in Taxidermy and experimented with preserving the bones of animals like dogs. This interest in dissecting and preserving dead animals could have been a precursor to his later crimes.

  • How did Jeffrey Dahmer's behavior in high school differ from his earlier years, and what were his friends' observations?

    -In high school, Jeffrey's behavior became strange, and he started acting in ways that made others uncomfortable, such as shrieking or twisting himself into grotesque positions. His friends began to notice a significant change in his personality.

  • What was the significance of Jeffrey Dahmer's actions with a beagle during his teenage years, as described in the script?

    -Jeffrey Dahmer's actions with a dead beagle, where he cut it open and displayed it in a shocking manner, indicated a fascination with death and a desire to provoke reactions from others, which could be seen as an early sign of his escalating criminal tendencies.

  • How did Jeffrey Dahmer's alcohol consumption during his teenage years relate to his growing dark desires?

    -Jeffrey Dahmer started drinking alcohol as a teenager, which he described as a way to drown his growing dark desires. This suggests that he was using alcohol as a coping mechanism for his increasing obsessions and fantasies.

  • What were the contents of Jeffrey Dahmer's sexual fantasies, and how did they evolve into reality?

    -Jeffrey Dahmer's sexual fantasies involved themes of control, power, and complete dominance. These fantasies became increasingly obsessive and eventually manifested in his actions, leading to the reality of his serial killer behavior.

  • Why did Jeffrey Dahmer's teachers and classmates not intervene more when they noticed his strange behavior and alcohol consumption?

    -There seemed to be a collective sense of denial or not wanting to notice Jeffrey Dahmer's strange behavior and alcohol consumption. People around him did not want to acknowledge or confront the signs that could have indicated his future actions.

  • How did Jeffrey Dahmer's father, Lionel, feel about his son's intelligence and behavior?

    -Lionel, Jeffrey's father, recognized his son's intelligence and noted that Jeffrey was always very gentle and kind. However, he also expressed a sense of helplessness in predicting or understanding the path his son would take.

Outlines

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๐Ÿ” Investigating the Roots of a Serial Killer's Behavior

The paragraph delves into the early life of Jeffrey Dahmer, a notorious serial killer, to understand the potential influences on his development. Despite a seemingly normal and affluent childhood, Dahmer's behavior began to show signs of disturbance. His father, Lionel, recalls a childhood without abuse, yet hints at possible prenatal influences from his mother's medication during pregnancy. Dahmer's interest in taxidermy and his fascination with dead animals in high school are also noted, suggesting a potential link to his later crimes. The narrative also touches on the family dynamics, including the birth of his younger brother and the impact of his parents' separation.

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๐Ÿ“š High School Years: The Transformation of Jeffrey Dahmer

This section of the script focuses on the changes observed in Jeffrey Dahmer during his high school years. Friends and acquaintances noted a shift in his behavior, becoming increasingly strange and unsettling. Dahmer himself admitted to acting 'crazy' as a way to shock people, and his actions, such as drinking in class and his peculiar antics, raised eyebrows among his peers. The paragraph also discusses the normalization of his odd behavior by those around him, and the beginning of his dark and obsessive fantasies that would later manifest in his criminal activities.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กMolested

Molested refers to the act of interfering with someone's bodily integrity without consent, often involving sexual misconduct. In the context of the video, the term is used to explore the absence of any such traumatic experiences in the subject's childhood, which is a common theme in discussions about the development of serial killers.

๐Ÿ’กAbuse

Abuse encompasses a range of harmful behaviors, including physical, emotional, or sexual mistreatment. The script mentions the lack of abuse in the subject's upbringing, contrasting it with the typical backgrounds of many serial killers who have experienced trauma in their early lives.

๐Ÿ’กSerial Killer

A serial killer is an individual who commits multiple murders over a period of time, often with a cooling-off period between each act. The video's theme revolves around understanding the development of such a personality, with the subject being Jeffrey Dahmer.

๐Ÿ’กTaxidermy

Taxidermy is the art of preserving, mounting, and stuffing the skin of dead animals for display. In the script, the subject's interest in taxidermy during high school is highlighted as a peculiar hobby that may have been an early sign of his later criminal behavior.

๐Ÿ’กMental Illness

Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions that affect mood, thinking, and behavior. The script discusses the subject's mother's struggle with mental illness, suggesting that her condition and the medications she took during pregnancy might have had an impact on the subject's development.

๐Ÿ’กGestalt Therapy

Gestalt therapy is a form of psychotherapy that emphasizes awareness, responsibility, and the integration of the individual's personality. The script mentions the subject's mother's involvement in Gestalt therapy as part of her struggle with mental health issues.

๐Ÿ’กFantasy

A fantasy is a product of the imagination, often involving impossible or improbable scenarios. In the context of the video, the subject's fantasies are described as sexual and focused on control and dominance, which later manifested in his criminal acts.

๐Ÿ’กAlcohol

Alcohol is a psychoactive substance that can impair judgment and behavior. The script indicates that the subject used alcohol as a means to suppress his dark desires and cope with his obsessive thoughts.

๐Ÿ’กBehavioral Changes

Behavioral changes refer to shifts in an individual's actions or patterns of conduct. The video describes how the subject's behavior became increasingly strange and concerning to those around him, signaling a departure from his previous persona.

๐Ÿ’กObsession

An obsession is a persistent, recurring thought or idea that dominates an individual's mind. In the script, the subject's obsession with control and dominance is linked to his escalating criminal activities.

๐Ÿ’กForensic Psychologist

A forensic psychologist is a specialist who applies psychological principles to legal issues, often involved in the assessment and understanding of criminal behavior. The script includes an interview with a forensic psychologist to provide expert insight into the subject's mindset and actions.

Highlights

The subject denies any form of abuse during their childhood, suggesting a normal upbringing.

Many serial killers have traumatic early life experiences, but this was not the case for Jeffrey Dahmer.

Jeffrey's father, Lionel, speaks about his son's childhood, emphasizing a lack of early life trauma.

Lionel's desire for anonymity during the interview, choosing to wear sunglasses.

Jeffrey enjoyed a peaceful, affluent childhood with a father who had a doctoral degree in chemistry.

Jeffrey's mother, Joyce, struggled with mental illness and took numerous medications during her pregnancy.

Medications taken by Joyce during pregnancy could have affected Jeffrey's development.

Jeffrey's infancy was marked by his mother's extreme fear of germs, limiting physical contact.

Jeffrey felt left out after the birth of his younger brother, as his mother stopped reading him bedtime stories.

Jeffrey's interest in taxidermy and preserving animal bones in high school.

Forensic psychologist speculates on the potential link between Jeffrey's taxidermy hobby and later criminal escalation.

Jeffrey's high school friends noticed a change in his behavior, becoming increasingly strange.

Jeffrey's alcohol consumption in high school, which he referred to as 'medicine'.

Teachers and classmates seemed to overlook Jeffrey's bizarre behavior, not fully recognizing the signs.

Jeffrey's fantasies of control and dominance began around the age of 15 or 16.

Jeffrey describes his fantasies as a mix of excitement, fear, and pleasure.

Transcripts

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were you molested never never in your

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childhood you have any memories of

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anything that you would associate with

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what you became no that's the that's the

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strange thing I can't pinpoint any

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anything so there was nothing in your

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childhood no no abuse no physical abuse

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no verbal abuse it was a normal

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childhood in a good home

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something went awry in my thought life

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uh I don't know why

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there's no single history that causes

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someone to become a serial killer many

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of the individuals who are serial

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killers not all of them but many have

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had very traumatic early life

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experiences and Mr Dahmer's case none of

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that seemed to be present

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Jeffrey's father Lionel now in his 80s

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wanted to talk to us about the boy he

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knew but he only agreed to an on-camera

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interview if he could wear sunglasses in

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his mind they make him less identifiable

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he loved the place that we lived in and

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is a heavily wooded place he

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enjoyed his small group of friends

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he was raised in the somewhat affluent

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family his father had a doctoral degree

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in chemistry the family lived on a one

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and a quarter quiet Wooded Acres with a

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pond

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Jeffrey indicated nothing in his time

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Hood could have fueled his desire to

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kill

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according to Lionel and his wife Sherry

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who'd been part of Jeffrey's life since

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he was 18 there was something that

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affected him even before he was born

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his mother Joyce struggled with mental

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illness and took 27 pills a day when she

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was pregnant with Jeffrey including

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antidepressants growth hormones and

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progesterone

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doctors met with us and they said those

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medicines could have affected the fetus

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and when Jeff was born

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the grandparents were not allowed to

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hold the baby Joyce didn't want anybody

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touching the baby or breathing on it she

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was afraid of germs they they virtually

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had

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no contact with Jeff as a baby

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in my conversations with Lionel he told

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me that in infancy Joyce herself rarely

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touched Jeffrey except to change his

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diapers or hold him for a photo

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there was so much illness

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with his mother at that time she was

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involved with Gestalt therapy at a local

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Mental Health Center wandering around

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the dark touching people nothing nothing

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helped

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in the midst of this Lionel and his

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first wife Joyce have a second child

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Jeff noticed that when his younger

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brother was born Jeff no longer had

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fairy tales from his mother stories read

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at night and tucking him in Jeff felt

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somewhat left out

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moving at the time

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and he had to leave his favorite kitten

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behind

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and going to a new school being only six

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years old he became a little bit more

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shy

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much like I was in my youth

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during his adolescence Dahmer develops a

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hobby that would raise eyebrows in the

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years that followed were you obsessed

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with dead animals is that true I was

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interested in Taxidermy in high school

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and experimented with

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preserving the bones of dogs and things

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like that

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and uh

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whether that had anything to do with

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with the escalation of the crimes I

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don't know

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further detail in this interview with a

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forensic psychologist

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this beagle that got hit wanted to see

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what the insides looked like so

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let's cut it open

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it was already dead and uh wanted to do

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I guess something shocking with it at

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least so I took it and and stuck it up

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on a pole in the neighbor's wooded area

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there are numbers of young people who

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might have those same kinds of interest

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and don't end up being serial killers

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so in retrospect had I spoken with him

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as a teenager I don't know that either

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he or I would have predicted at that

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point that he was going to end up being

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the serial killer he turned out to be

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now I lived with this young man he lived

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in our home

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he had his father's intelligence and on

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the phone you could not tell Jeff or

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Lionel apart

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Jeff was always

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very gentle very kind

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in high school

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high school friends begin to notice

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Jeffrey is becoming a different person

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Jeff's Behavior began to be so strange

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that I felt very uncomfortable being

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with him alone

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he liked to act in his words crazy he

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would just start shrieking or he would

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twist himself up

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in a grotesque way and run with a limp

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almost like Quasimodo and I remember one

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time asking him why he behaved this way

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and he said

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I just like to shake people up

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foreign

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I remember when we had our senior

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pictures taken he got into a lot of the

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group photos that he was not a member

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the National Honor Society group whoever

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was in charge of that in those days they

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blacked out his face and it's really

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creepy

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classmate who said years ago we thought

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that photo was hilarious

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and it's not so funny anymore

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his Brazen Behavior continues in the

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classroom

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he was drinking beer sometimes he kept

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in his locker and I guess he kept beer

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in his car

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did teachers do anything about it did

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they know about it I'm sure some

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teachers knew about it

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I remember distinctly one morning

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sitting in class next to Jeff who had

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his cup of scotch and I said Jeff what

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is that he just tossed his head back as

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though it was no issue at all and he

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said it's my medicine

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there was a collective sense of blinders

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going up that people didn't notice

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because they didn't long and notice

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according to Dahmer alcohol was a way to

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drown his growing dark desires

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I started having these obsessive

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thoughts when I was about 15 and 16 and

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they got worse and worse what were your

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fantasies about uh

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they were sexual fantasies of control

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Power

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complete dominance they became reality

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was there pleasure in that fantasy there

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was excitement uh

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fear pleasure all mixed together

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