GROWTH HORMONE: The ULTIMATE Guide (Uses, Dosages, Biggest Mistakes)

Summary

In this RX Muscle supplement and science review, Dave Palumbo discusses the role of growth hormone (GH) in muscle growth and its distinction from anabolic steroids. He clarifies that GH, a peptide hormone, stimulates liver production of IGF-1 leading to muscle hyperplasia, rather than directly building muscle like steroids. Palumbo emphasizes the ideal dosage for GH, suggesting 1-2 IU per day for women and 2-5 IU for men, with 4 IU being optimal. He also addresses common questions about GH, including its timing and the need for insulin, warning of potential side effects like insulin resistance and fluid retention. The video aims to educate on the proper use and expectations from GH in bodybuilding.

Takeaways

• 💊 Growth hormone (GH) is a peptide hormone, not a steroidal compound, and is naturally produced in the pituitary gland.
• 🏋️‍♂️ GH does not directly build muscle but stimulates the liver to produce IGF-1, which contributes to muscle hyperplasia and recovery.
• 🚫 GH lacks masculinizing effects and is not as effective alone as it is when used synergistically with anabolic steroids.
• 👩‍🔬 Ideal GH dosage varies by gender, with women typically using 1-2 IU per day and men starting at 2 IU per day with a sweet spot around 4 IU for enhanced effects.
• ⏳ Consistent, long-term use of GH is more effective than short cycles of high dosage, aligning with the body's natural GH release patterns.
• 🚫 High GH dosages can lead to side effects like fluid retention, increased blood pressure, and insulin resistance.
• 💉 The timing of GH administration is crucial; it's often best to take it in the morning to counteract the body's natural catabolic state.
• 🩸 Monitoring blood sugar levels is essential when using GH, as it can impact insulin sensitivity and overall health.
• 💊 The quality of GH matters; it's important to ensure the product is genuine and properly dosed to avoid underdosing or wasting money on ineffective fakes.
• ⚖️ Balancing GH and insulin use is key to maximizing muscle growth while minimizing health risks, especially for bodybuilders in the off-season.

Q & A

What is the difference between anabolic steroids and growth hormone?

Anabolic steroids are steroidal compounds related to testosterone, while growth hormone is a peptide hormone made from protein and does not have masculinizing effects.

How does growth hormone contribute to muscle growth?

Growth hormone indirectly stimulates the liver to produce IGF-1, which causes muscle hyperplasia, the production of new muscle cells, and aids in recovery of muscle tissue broken down during exercise.

Why do bodybuilders take growth hormone?

Bodybuilders take growth hormone to stimulate the production of new muscle cells and aid in recovery, but it is more effective when used synergistically with anabolic steroids.

What is the recommended dosage of growth hormone for women?

For women, the ideal dosage of growth hormone is one to two International Units (IUs) per day to avoid unwanted facial bone growth.

What is the sweet spot dosage for growth hormone in adult men?

For adult men, a sweet spot dosage of growth hormone is about 1.5 to 2 IUs per day, with 2 IUs being effective and minimizing side effects.

What are some side effects of taking too much growth hormone?

Excessive growth hormone can lead to fluid retention, pins and needles in the hands, sleepiness during the day, increased blood pressure, and antagonistic effects on insulin, potentially causing insulin resistance.

Why is it important to monitor blood sugar levels when taking growth hormone?

Monitoring blood sugar levels is important because growth hormone can increase insulin resistance, leading to high blood sugar levels, which can strain the pancreas and lead to long-term health issues.

What is the role of insulin when taking growth hormone?

Insulin can be used to help manage blood sugar levels and support the body's ability to absorb nutrients, especially when taking growth hormone, which can increase insulin resistance.

How often should growth hormone be taken for optimal results?

Growth hormone is more effective when taken every day over longer periods rather than in short cycles of high doses, with the ideal dosage being two to five IUs per day.

What is the best time to take growth hormone injections?

It is recommended to take growth hormone in the morning to counteract the body's natural catabolic state and potentially after training to aid in muscle recovery.

How can one ensure they are getting real growth hormone and not a fake product?

One can use a growth hormone testing kit to verify the authenticity of the product, as there are many counterfeit products in the market.

Outlines

00:00

💊 Understanding Growth Hormone's Role in Bodybuilding

Dave Palumbo from RX Muscle discusses the misconceptions surrounding growth hormone (GH). Unlike anabolic steroids, GH is a peptide hormone produced in the pituitary gland and does not have masculinizing effects. Its primary function is to stimulate the liver to produce IGF-1, which leads to muscle hyperplasia, the creation of new muscle cells. GH is most effective when used synergistically with anabolic steroids, as it aids in recovery and muscle cell growth without directly enlarging existing cells. Palumbo clarifies that GH alone will not significantly bulk up muscles as anabolic steroids do.

05:01

💉 Optimal Dosage and Administration of Growth Hormone

Palumbo addresses common questions about GH dosage, timing, and the necessity of insulin. He explains that the ideal dosage varies by gender and purpose, with women typically using 1-2 IU per day to avoid facial bone growth, and men using 2-5 IU per day for muscle growth. He emphasizes that GH is more effective with consistent, long-term use rather than short, high-dose cycles. Palumbo also warns of the potential for insulin resistance and other side effects from excessive GH use, advocating for a balanced approach to dosing.

10:02

🩸 Managing Blood Sugar and Insulin with Growth Hormone

The discussion turns to the impact of GH on blood sugar levels and the role of insulin. High blood sugar levels can indicate poor blood sugar management, which can inhibit growth and lead to health issues. Palumbo suggests using long-acting insulin to support the pancreas and maintain normal blood sugar levels, especially when using GH. He recommends monitoring blood sugar with a glucometer and adjusting insulin doses accordingly. The video also mentions an upcoming video on insulin featuring Collette Nelson, an insulin expert.

15:04

🌐 Real vs. Fake Growth Hormone and Practical Usage Tips

Palumbo stresses the importance of using real GH and offers advice on how to test its authenticity. He compares different brands and sources, including pharmaceutical-grade GH, and warns against the risks of underdosed or fake products. He also provides practical tips on when to take GH injections, suggesting early morning use to counteract the body's natural catabolic state. Additionally, he advises taking GH with meals to prevent initial blood sugar drops and discusses the importance of not overdoing insulin to maintain a healthy balance.

Keywords

💡Growth Hormone (GH)

Growth Hormone, or GH, is a peptide hormone produced in the pituitary gland that plays a crucial role in human growth and cell regeneration. In the context of the video, GH is discussed as a supplement used by bodybuilders to stimulate muscle growth indirectly by stimulating the liver to produce IGF-1, which in turn can lead to muscle hyperplasia. The script clarifies that GH is not an anabolic steroid and does not have masculinizing effects, distinguishing it from steroidal compounds.

💡IGF-1

IGF-1, or insulin-like growth factor 1, is a hormone produced by the liver in response to stimulation by growth hormone. It is integral to muscle growth and development. The video explains that GH indirectly stimulates the production of IGF-1, which then leads to muscle hyperplasia, or the production of new muscle cells, underscoring its importance in the muscle-building process.

💡Anabolic Steroids

Anabolic steroids are steroidal compounds related to testosterone that promote muscle growth by increasing the size of existing muscle cells. The video contrasts anabolic steroids with growth hormone, highlighting that while steroids directly increase muscle size, GH is more focused on cell production and recovery, and is used synergistically with steroids for enhanced effects.

💡Muscle Hyperplasia

Muscle hyperplasia refers to the increase in muscle mass due to the production of new muscle cells. The video script explains that IGF-1, stimulated by GH, can cause muscle hyperplasia, which is different from the effect of anabolic steroids that cause the enlargement of existing muscle cells.

💡Pituitary Gland

The pituitary gland is a small, pea-sized gland located at the base of the brain that produces various hormones, including growth hormone. The video mentions that GH is produced naturally in the pituitary gland and is released as part of the body's growth processes, emphasizing the gland's role in the body's endocrine system.

💡Dosage

Dosage refers to the quantity of a medication or supplement taken at any one time. The script discusses the ideal dosage for GH, noting that it differs from the dosages used for medical purposes, such as treating children with growth deficiencies. It emphasizes the importance of proper dosage to maximize muscle growth while minimizing side effects.

💡Insulin Resistance

Insulin resistance is a condition in which the body's cells do not respond properly to the hormone insulin, leading to high blood sugar levels. The video explains that high levels of GH can lead to insulin resistance, which can strain the pancreas and potentially lead to long-term health issues if not managed properly.

💡Side Effects

Side effects are unintended consequences or adverse reactions that occur as a result of using a medication or supplement. The video outlines potential side effects of GH use, such as fluid retention, pins and needles in the hands, and increased blood pressure, highlighting the need for careful monitoring and dosage management.

💡Long-Acting Insulin

Long-acting insulin is a type of insulin that provides a slow and steady release of insulin over an extended period, typically 24 hours. The video discusses the use of long-acting insulin to manage blood sugar levels in individuals using GH, explaining that it can help reduce the strain on the pancreas and maintain proper blood sugar balance.

💡Pharmaceutical Grade

Pharmaceutical grade refers to the quality and purity of a medication or supplement that meets the standards set by regulatory authorities for safety and efficacy. The video script emphasizes the importance of using pharmaceutical-grade GH to ensure its effectiveness and to avoid the risks associated with counterfeit or under-dosed products.

Highlights

Growth hormone (GH) is a peptide hormone, not a steroidal compound, and is produced in the pituitary gland.

GH does not have masculinizing effects and is different from anabolic steroids.

GH indirectly stimulates the liver to produce IGF-1, which causes muscle hyperplasia.

GH is more effective when used synergistically with anabolic steroids for muscle growth.

The ideal dosage of GH for women is one to two IU per day to avoid facial bone growth.

For men, the lowest effective dose of GH is two IU per day, with four IU being the sweet spot for muscle growth.

GH is most effective when taken continuously over longer periods rather than in short, high-dose cycles.

High doses of GH can lead to insulin resistance and other side effects.

GH can have an antagonistic effect on insulin, potentially leading to high blood sugar issues.

Long-acting insulin can be used to help manage blood sugar levels when using GH.

The best GH is real and accurately dosed; pharmaceutical-grade GH is often more reliable.

GH should be taken in the morning to counteract the body's natural catabolic state.

It's important to test blood sugar levels regularly when using GH to ensure proper insulin function.

GH does not need to be taken in a low-carb state as it is not about inducing GH release but administering it.

Dave Palumbo recommends a GH testing kit to ensure the quality and effectiveness of the hormone.

The video concludes with advice on finding the right balance with GH and insulin use for optimal results.

Transcripts

[Music]

dave palumbo here with an rx muscle

supplement and science review

today's topic is going to be growth

hormone this is a

drug i get multiple questions about

every single day for multiple people

people are confused by it people think

um gh is actually a

stronger anabolic steroid and

really if we want to really

differentiate you know anabolic steroids

are steroidal compounds you know they're

they have a steroidal backbone they're

related to testosterone

whereas growth hormone is a peptide

hormone it's made from protein

and it has no

masculinizing effects it's produced in

the pituitary gland

the pituitary gland releases it

naturally as we're growing obviously we

produce a lot more growth hormone and

what growth hormone does it doesn't

really have a direct

growing effect or muscle building effect

what it does is it indirectly stimulates

the liver to produce a hormone known as

igf-1 or insulin growth factor or

insulin-like growth factor one which

will cause muscle hyperplasia which is

the production of new muscle cells

uh it will also you know help the long

bones to elongate and get bigger you

know assuming you're in your growth

years you know once you're

once your

i guess

bone plates are closed you're not going

to get any more long bone growth which

means you're not going to grow in height

but muscle cells can grow and obviously

when you when you break down muscle

tissue in the gym it's going to help

with recovery and so we bodybuilders

love to take growth hormone but if you

took growth hormone alone and didn't

take any other you know anabolic drugs

with that you probably would be greatly

disappointed in in the results you get

from it because gh is not a big muscle

builder it produces new muscle cells but

it doesn't make the existing cells get

larger

like steroids do anabolic steroids

actually take your existing muscle cells

and make them bigger

especially if you break them down in the

gym and subject them to you know the

stresses of you know training

so

gh has a better effect when it's used

synergistically with anabolic steroids

and we've noticed that over the years

that when you combine steroids

and gh you get a better effect and

that's because the steroids are making

your cells get bigger but the gh is

producing new muscle tissue it's

basically taking what we used to call

satellite cells now we call them stem

cells stem cells are just

undifferentiated cells that sit around

the muscle that you're training

and these cells have the potential to

turn into into the tissue that they're

near or related to so if you're breaking

down muscle tissue and you're taking gh

which is causing igf-1 release

some of those stem cells will turn into

new muscle cells

and add it to your existing cells you

wouldn't even notice the difference

because they're they're so small and now

when you train and work out and eat a

lot of protein

and take animals sorry those new cells

will get bigger so they they work

together that's really how it goes the

the questions though i have or i get are

number one how much should i take

when should i take it and do i need to

take insulin with it those are

invariably the three most common

questions and they're good questions you

know

how much

you can't look at what a child would

take you know you know who's trying to

grow in height that's not the right

dosage to look at because

the dosage needed to make the long bones

grow is a lot higher than the dosage

required to

increase muscle mass so it's a different

dosage and i think a lot of people make

mistake they go in and they look up

online what kids take you know to grow

and they say oh they're taking all these

they're taking you know 30 ius a week i

got to do the same thing but that's not

necessarily uh or it's you know based on

you know weight too

so if when they extrapolate that could

be like 50 60 i use a week you know that

an adult would take but that's just not

the right way to figure it out

we've figured it out over the years you

know we've been doing gh has been around

for a long time now so

the ideal dosage is usually

for women it's anywhere from one to two

ius per day and and and people would say

well why can't women take more gh well

you know

gh doesn't cause masculinizing side

effects because it's not it's not a

steroidal compound

but it does make the facial bones grow

you know the ears and the nose

you can get some growth from that and in

a man you know it might make him look a

little tougher and a woman probably not

gonna do

what she wants it to do to her face it

could make her face a little thicker

looking and a lot of women don't want

that look and it's not attractive

obviously so you don't want to overdo

the

growth hormone as a woman like i said

one to two i use per day is is good i i

see a lot of clients of mine using about

a gram of 1.5 iu's per day that seems to

be a nice sweet spot right there and

that and the good thing about that it

doesn't really cause too much insulin

resistance so

you could take that gh and it's not

going to affect your blood sugars now

men are going to want to use a little

bit more the the lowest effective dose

where you're going to actually get

growth

and you're really not gonna have many

side effects is two i use per day and

we used to take that back in the 90s

because the gh was so expensive and you

just couldn't afford to take more than

that and everyone got good results from

it so two i use is effective and it's

and gh is more effective if you take it

every day for longer periods of time as

opposed to doing short cycles of a lot

of it you know

and and that's just been proven you know

when you take too much you just get more

side effects you really don't get more

growth so the idea of being on it

continuously is a much more appealing

way to do it because you're going to get

better results also you got to remember

that when you take a shot of exogenous

growth hormone

okay the liver can only respond and

produce so much igf-1 in response to the

growth hormone injection so if you take

30 ius in one shot of gh your liver is

probably not going to produce any more

igf-1 than it would if you took say five

or six ius and so

you have to take that into account that

there's a waste factor and then what

you're just doing is making yourself

more insulin resistant more water

attentive you know more pins and needles

in your fingers and you just keep

creating more side effects and that's

the case with any drug i mean people

people like to od on on everything right

i mean if you if you take you know a

thousand or three thousand milligrams of

vitamin c a day you feel good if you

take ten thousand or twenty thousand you

might have a stomach ulcer okay so

there's a diminishing returns so i found

that the ideal dosage is about two to

five ius per day of gh

with probably four ius being the sweet

spot meaning that you get the best

benefits with the least side effects

because once you start going over four

ius per day you might get a little more

growth but you also get a lot more side

effects and what are some of these side

effects you know fluid retention

obviously

pins and needles in the hands they kind

of fall asleep during the day

um

you know blood pressure can go up if

obviously you're retaining a lot of

fluid from the gh which a lot of people

do

and that's not good but probably the

most

maybe harmful long term is is the fact

that

the more growth hormone you put into

your bloodstream

and gh can have an antagonistic effect

to insulin meaning that insulin can't do

its job insulin's job is to take the

sugar in the blood and push it into the

cells whether the muscle cells the liver

cells the brain cells

or the fat cells to produce stores fat

that's its job but if it can't get to

the receptor because there's too much gh

which is antagonizing the effects of

insulin which means it's blocking in a

sense to a certain degree your body has

to then produce more insulin and what

that does is it puts a tremendous strain

on the pancreas and if you're already

eating an enormous amount of food as a

bodybuilder especially in the off-season

and now you're creating more of a demand

for your pancreas to produce insulin

what can happen is the beta cells which

produce insulin in the pancreas can burn

out and that that's not something you

want to happen because

then they don't work right and then you

don't absorb your food and then you run

high blood sugars and you get side

effects from high blood sugars like eye

damage kidney damage extremity damage

the blood vessels get gunked up with

this glucose that's in the

excessive amount of glucose it's in the

bloodstream we don't want to do that so

we have to be smart so like i said three

to four i use gh probably the sweet spot

for i use being sweet but i usually use

four eye user guys in the off season

three i use pre-conference plus it makes

it a little more affordable too because

the stuff is expensive if you get real

gh that is i mean if you're buying fake

gh and you're getting a good deal on it

then you're really not getting any

benefits out of it even though you're

not spending as much money so

um i do sell a growth hormone testing

kit on davepalumbo.com so you can test

your growth phone and see if it's real

because i would say 50 of the stuff

floating around out there is is fake and

don't don't believe or trust anything

anyone says like i had a test you tested

tested you're going to spend and invest

a couple thousand dollars in growth

hormone you could spend another 100

bucks and test the gh to make sure that

it it works because it's real and you

know and that's important but getting

back to the insulin question is do you

need insulin well

the question is what are your blood

sugars

a lot of people just knee-jerk start

doing things and they don't even know

what the data is you know so go to

walmart

if you don't live in the united states

and you don't have walmart you can find

a comparable store but walmart in the

united states sells blood testing kits

or blood glucometers for like nine bucks

maybe it's up to ten dollars now they're

really cheap and you gotta get the test

strips to go with that particular

glucose monitor and you can test your

blood sugar every morning and that's

called your fasting blood sugars before

you eat anything and fasting blood sugar

should be under 90. okay

i know if you go for blood blood work it

says that they need to be under 100 but

that's

that's like for people who

don't want to be super healthy okay you

want to be under 90 on a regular basis

and if you're running high blood sugars

that are in the 90s or even in the

hundreds which i see a lot of people on

a regular basis running

faster blood sugars 110 105 those are

those are too high

that means your body's not managing its

blood sugar properly and it could be

because you're on gh it could just be

that you're eating a lot of food and

your body can't keep up with the with

the insulin production

and there's two negatives because of

that number one you're not absorbing

your food properly okay which is gonna

inhibit growth in a sense

and i noticed that when i used to use gh

back in the day i couldn't gain any

weight i would be ripped i couldn't gain

weight and i realized that and i didn't

even we didn't have glucometers back

then

no one had only type 1 diabetics had

them and i didn't even know how to i

wouldn't even know what to do with them

to be honest with you but i did notice

that when i put in

some insulin into my protocol

i was i started gaining weight again i

didn't use a lot but i was using enough

to help my body absorb the food and i

was eating an enormous amount of food

back in the days had a very fast

metabolism nowadays we can quantify

what's going on get a blood sugar

monitor

and you basically just test your blood

sugar every morning and you know if your

blood sugar is in the right range

then you're good if you're under 90 if

you're not you're running 96 98

you might want to think about getting a

what we call a long acting or basal

insulin

these insulins are basically made

they're not like the insulin you think

of i take a shot off i don't eat i'm

going to go low blood sugar now these

are long-acting insulins that work in

the background what it basically does is

it takes the burden off your pancreas

off your beta cells having to produce so

much insulin during the day and it gives

them a rest in a sense so instead of you

and i'm just going to give you like a

fictitious number let's say your

pancreas produces 200 units of insulin a

day okay

and now you're taking growth hormone and

you're eating more food because you're

bulking up and now it needs to produce

300 but it's only really capable of

producing 200 maybe 250. so now there's

50 units it's short so now you're going

to start running high blood sugars now

if you take a long-acting insulin maybe

50 units

you know per day 25 in the morning 25 at

night i'm just giving you for instance

these are not real numbers

now you've

helped the pancreas

produce what it's missing

and so now it's going to still produce

it's 250 but now you it has 50 that

you've taken extra on top of that and

now it's now your blood sugars are back

to normal because the pancreas can

handle that load

and that's what that's what long acting

insulin is all about and i'm going to do

another video on insulin uh with my um

my insulin guru as i call it collette

nelson in the coming probably next week

we're going to do uh an updated insulin

video because there's a lot of new

insulins out that a lot of people don't

even know about so

right now i think that the best

long-acting insulin on the market and

she would probably agree with me is

toshiba

but it's also the most expensive and

hardest to get

so a lot of people use other insulins

like uh toujeho is very close to toshiba

atlantis but these insulins need to be

taken twice a day even though the

doctors will save their 24-hour insulins

they're really not so you need to take

them at night in the morning and

depending on you know your size and how

much you you you know how big you are

and how much you're eating that will

dictate how much insulin your body needs

and we're going to do a separate video

on insulin i'm not going to talk about

insulin but i will say that toshiba is a

true 24-hour insulin you can take it

once a day

and usually tell people to start out

with about 10 ius a day and just see how

your body does on that if your blood

sugars are still running high you up it

by like two hours a day until you kind

of get into that range where you get it

down under 90.

and this is once again just helping your

body it's not a performance enhancer you

although you might get some muscle

growth from it because now you're

restoring

your normal uh

blood sugar balance in your body because

you're actually absorbing all the all

the food you're eating so you will get a

little surge and possibly muscle growth

but it's not the insulin that's giving

you the growth it's the it's restoring

the insulin balance and remember the

more gh you take the more insulin you're

probably going to need to take as well

because to counteract it so you don't

want to take too much insulin where

you're putting too much of it so you

don't want to take too much growth

hormone we're going to put too much of a

strain on the body and you're going to

have to take too much insulin because

excessive insulin is not good either

because even though long-acting insulins

don't really result in fat gain like

short-acting ones do

you never want to have to take extra

insulin above and beyond what you're

doing so it's all about the right

balance so

if you're looking to put some muscle

size on you have the funds to do it and

you have a source of real growth hormone

ideally four ius per day is probably the

sweet spot um in an offseason scenario

probably two i use in the morning and

two i use maybe for six hours later now

why take it early in the morning because

your body doesn't naturally produce gh

in the morning so why would you do that

well

that's the exact reason why because your

body isn't producing it in the morning

it does produce it at night and it does

produce it after you train so you don't

want to take it those times because your

body's naturally releasing at those

times your body is the most catabolic in

the morning meaning you produce the most

catabolic hormones like cortisol in the

morning uh hours so if you can take some

growth hormone and counteract some of

that uh catabolicness or metabolism

that's going on in your body then you're

obviously going to get a better growth

effect another thing people don't

realize is that it doesn't matter what

you're eating or not eating when you

take your gh shot because you're not

trying to stimulate growth hormone

release

what you're trying to do is you're

actually taking the growth hormone so a

lot of people get confused

well gh is naturally released in your

body in a low carb environment so i

better not eat any carbs well

you're not trying to induce gh release

you're taking the growth hormone itself

so it doesn't really matter what you're

eating or not eating matter of fact when

you first take gh you do get a blood

sugar drop initially because when you

get that igf-1 release from the liver

that has an insulin-like effect and it

drives nutrients into the cells and that

can sometimes lower your blood sugar so

you got to be careful i always tell

people to take the growth hormone when

you're eating so take a shot eat your

breakfast you know don't take a shot and

then go do cardio first thing in the

morning do your cardio first then take

your shot and eat breakfast and that's a

smarter way to go

so there's a lot of you know there's a

lot of questions around insulin what's

the i mean around growth hormone what's

the best growth hormone well the best

growth hormone is real growth hormones

if you have a real growth hormone that's

truly dosed they're all the same because

gh is gh the same 191 amino acids

sequence

anything that's pharmaceutical obviously

is going to be better quality you know

but there are pharmaceutical fakes too

there's serrano makes serous dim there's

genentech makes neutrophin uh eli lilly

i believe still makes uh hemotrope and

then there's nordotropin over in europe

and gentropin and there's

there's a lot of different ones out

there and then you got your generics

that come from you know from china and

and some of them are good and some of

them are not but

test them

number one to make sure they're real but

even if they're real they could be under

dosed so

that's something you have to consider

but if you're getting a tremendous

tremendously cheap price on something

compared to what a pharmaceutical price

would be

you might want to opt for that as long

as it tests out but it's real however

the on the other side of the coin

you might want to stick with the

pharmaceutical grade and just use less

all right you know what it's a lot more

expensive but at least you know it's

real so two i use is really two i use i

can justify using two i use every day of

pharmaceutical gh because at least i

know i'm getting real growth hormone and

so i think if i was you know competing

and taking growth hormone in this day

and age i probably would go with the

pharmaceutical grade spend the extra

money but just use a little less of it

um because you could be taking chinese

gh to test positive for being real gh

but you know you might think you're

taking six i use and you might be taking

one eye you don't know so

i don't i don't like that i always like

to know everything you know i don't i

don't like to be in the dark about

what's going on because here you are

thinking you're taking a nice healthy gh

dose and you could be taking nothing so

it's something to think about hopefully

this video helped clarify a couple of

these questions and points once again i

get these on a daily basis for multiple

people so i felt it was important to put

out a video explaining exactly you know

how this growth hormone works

what the right dosage is and when the

right time to take it is i'm dave

palumbo with an rx muscle supplement and

science review