Markets at a Crossroads!

Traders Summit
26 Aug 202425:52

Summary

TLDRIn a Trader Summit discussion, Blake Maro and Jim Welsh from Macro Tides analyze the US dollar's sharp decline, predicting a potential drop to the mid-90s. They discuss the significance of the dollar's 100.61 level, its impact on the triangle pattern, and the influence of economic data, particularly the jobs report, on Federal Reserve decisions. The conversation also touches on political dishonesty, economic narratives, and their effects on the market. Jim offers insights into various market indicators, including the S&P 500, treasury bonds, and gold, suggesting the markets are at a critical juncture where future economic data could significantly alter current trends.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ“‰ The dollar is experiencing a significant decline, with the potential for a 'dumpster fire sale' scenario as discussed by Jim Welsh.
  • ๐Ÿ“ˆ Jim Welsh anticipates a possible bounce in the dollar before it drops further, with key levels to watch being around 95 and 100.61.
  • ๐Ÿ” The conversation emphasizes the importance of technical analysis in predicting market movements, with the dollar's triangle pattern being a critical indicator.
  • ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ Jim Welsh expresses concern over political dishonesty from both sides, which he believes is detrimental to the country's ability to discern truth and make informed decisions.
  • ๐Ÿ’ผ The discrepancy between the establishment survey and the household survey in job numbers is highlighted, suggesting potential exaggeration in job creation figures.
  • ๐Ÿ“Š There is a significant revision in job numbers, with an overstatement of 818,000 jobs from March 2023 to March 2024, which is a cause for concern but not panic.
  • ๐Ÿ›๏ธ Discretionary spending appears to be slowing, indicating that even the upper-end consumers may be starting to cut back, which could be a sign of economic softening.
  • ๐Ÿ“Š The S&P index is close to reaching an all-time high, which according to Jim, could mark an intermediate high if the pattern of a five-wave move is completed.
  • ๐Ÿ“‰ Treasury bond yields have dropped below their channel, which could suggest an uptick if the economy doesn't slow down soon enough, potentially affecting the long-term outlook for yields.
  • ๐Ÿ’ฐ The dollar index is at a critical juncture, with the level of 100.62 being a make-or-break point that could determine the direction of the dollar's movement.
  • ๐Ÿ† Gold prices are near their highs but have not yet made significant progress despite dollar weakness, suggesting a potential upcoming move if certain market conditions are met.

Q & A

  • What was the main topic of discussion between Blake Maro and Jim Welsh in the video?

    -The main topic of discussion was the current state of the US dollar, its potential decline, and the impact of various economic factors and political statements on the financial markets.

  • What was Jim Welsh's prediction about the US dollar's movement?

    -Jim Welsh predicted that the US dollar could have a bounce before dropping to the mid-90s, with a critical level at 100.61, which if breached, would open the door for a more significant decline.

  • What is the significance of the level 100.61 in the context of the dollar's movement?

    -The level 100.61 is significant because it represents the low of wave B in the dollar's triangle pattern. If this level is taken out, it implies a direct decline or a much sooner decline below 95.

  • What does Jim Welsh believe is the key factor that will influence the Federal Reserve's decision on interest rate cuts?

    -Jim Welsh believes that the key factor influencing the Federal Reserve's decision on interest rate cuts will be the jobs report, particularly if the job numbers come in much weaker than expected, which could raise the odds of a 50 basis point cut instead of 25.

  • How does Jim Welsh view the current political climate in the US in relation to its impact on the economy?

    -Jim Welsh is concerned about the constant lying from both political sides, which he believes is aimed at ensuring that no one believes anything anymore, thus making it easier for those in power to manipulate the populace.

  • What was the historical context provided by Jim Welsh regarding the US economy's state in the fourth quarter of 2020 and the first quarter of 2021?

    -Jim Welsh pointed out that in the fourth quarter of 2020, the GDP was up 4.2%, and in the first quarter of 2021, it was up 5.2%, contradicting the narrative that the economy was in terrible shape and needed more than $3 trillion in spending to recover.

  • What is the importance of the establishment survey and the household survey in understanding job creation?

    -The establishment survey and the household survey are important because they provide different perspectives on job creation. Jim Welsh mentioned that the establishment survey may have exaggerated job creation numbers, and comparing it to the household survey can give a more accurate picture.

  • What is the significance of the jobs report in the context of the Federal Reserve's decisions?

    -The jobs report is significant because it can influence the Federal Reserve's decisions on interest rates. A strong jobs report could potentially lead to a more cautious approach by the Fed, possibly affecting the expected number of rate cuts.

  • How does Jim Welsh view the current state of discretionary spending in the economy?

    -Jim Welsh noted a bifurcated economy where the bottom 40% of wage earners are struggling with discretionary spending, while those at the upper end have been spending more freely. However, he also observed signs of slowing spending among the upper end, indicating a potential pullback.

  • What is the potential impact of a strong jobs report on the financial markets according to Jim Welsh?

    -A strong jobs report could potentially upset market expectations, especially if it shows a lower unemployment rate and strong job growth. This could lead to a rise in the US dollar and an uptick in treasury yields, contradicting current market expectations for rate cuts.

  • What advice does Jim Welsh give regarding the current market conditions for gold?

    -Jim Welsh suggests that gold is at a critical juncture and needs to move quickly. If the dollar rallies towards 104, gold could face selling pressure. Conversely, if the dollar breaks below the critical level, gold could easily move towards 1300.

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