Stefano Prandi - Ariosto e il sogno della modernità
Summary
TLDRThe script discusses Ludovico Ariosto, a key figure in modernity, known for his masterpiece 'Orlando Furioso'. It is compared to a field of forces where characters are driven by an unending dynamism, constantly pursuing their desires without ever fully achieving them. The work is described as a grand machine of illusions and an open work that reflects on human nature without moral or religious judgment. Ariosto's work is seen as a secular vision, embracing human flaws with benevolence. The theme of madness is explored, including the poet's own, challenging the traditional role of poetry. The script portrays Ariosto as a modern author, highlighting the human aspects of poets and their work.
Takeaways
- 🎨 Ariosto is considered one of the great fathers of modernity.
- 📖 His masterpiece, 'Orlando Furioso,' has been compared by Italo Calvino to a field of forces.
- 🚀 The protagonists are driven by an incessant dynamism, endlessly pursuing their desires without ever achieving them.
- 🌀 'Orlando Furioso' is described as a great machine of illusions and an open work.
- 🏰 The Castle of Atlante in the poem represents a place where everyone endlessly chases their desires.
- 👀 Ariosto's perspective on humanity acknowledges human limitations and flaws without condemning them morally or religiously.
- ⚖️ 'Orlando Furioso' contrasts sharply with Dante's 'Divine Comedy,' particularly in its portrayal of the afterlife.
- 🌕 Astolfo's journey to the moon to retrieve Orlando's sanity highlights a system of relativistic values.
- 🌍 Ariosto's humanistic vision offers a secular and benevolent view of human flaws.
- 🤪 The theme of madness is self-reflective, with Ariosto addressing his own romantic folly.
- 🖋️ Poetry is presented as something that powerful people use to ennoble their earthly deeds.
- ❓ Ariosto questions the function of poetry, suggesting that poets are as fallible as anyone else.
- 👥 This perspective makes Ariosto a relatable and modern author.
Q & A
Who is considered one of the great fathers of modernity according to the script?
-Ludovico Ariosto, as his masterpiece 'Orlando Furioso' has been compared to a field of forces by Italo Calvino.
What is the main theme of Ariosto's 'Orlando Furioso'?
-The main theme is the continuous pursuit of desires by the protagonists, who are driven by an incessant dynamism without ever reaching their goals.
How is 'Orlando Furioso' described in relation to Dante's 'Divine Comedy'?
-It is described as the reverse of 'The Divine Comedy', presenting a different kind of journey to the afterlife.
What is the significance of the Castle of Atlas in 'Orlando Furioso'?
-The Castle of Atlas is a place within the poem where everyone chases their desires in a nearly circular manner.
How does Ariosto view human limitations and flaws in 'Orlando Furioso'?
-Ariosto views human limitations and flaws without condemning them from a moral or religious perspective, offering a more humanistic and benevolent view.
What does the journey of Astolfo to Hell and then to the Moon signify?
-Astolfo's journey signifies the relativism of values and the humanistic perspective of Ariosto, emphasizing a secular viewpoint.
What is the role of poetry according to the script's discussion on Ariosto's work?
-Poetry is presented as not being absolutely intangible and is subject to human limitations, with poets being depicted as ordinary people with their own weaknesses.
How does Ariosto reflect on the theme of madness in his work?
-Ariosto reflects on the theme of madness not only in the character of Orlando but also in his own life, describing his own love madness for his woman, Alessandra.
What is the implication of the statement that 'great and powerful people use poets'?
-The implication is that the powerful use poetry and poets to glorify their earthly deeds and make their lives appear nobler and more illustrious than they truly were.
How does Ariosto's portrayal of himself and his work contribute to his modernity?
-Ariosto's self-portrayal and his work's themes contribute to his modernity by challenging the traditional function of poetry and acknowledging the human condition, including the poets themselves.
Outlines
📚 Ludovico Ariosto's Modernity and Orlando Furioso
This paragraph delves into the significance of Ludovico Ariosto as a foundational figure of modernity, with his masterpiece 'Orlando Furioso' likened to a field of forces by Italo Calvino. The narrative is driven by an unending dynamism where characters are ceaselessly in pursuit of their desires, which they never actually attain. The work is depicted as a grand machine of illusions and an open-ended opera, reflecting on human nature and desires in a circular manner within the poem. The Castle of Atlas serves as a pivotal setting where characters chase their true desires. Ariosto's perspective on humanity is highlighted, showing the limitations and flaws of people without moral or religious judgment, positioning 'Orlando Furioso' as a counterpoint to Dante's 'Divine Comedy'. The journey of Astolfo to Hell and then to the Moon in search of Orlando's sanity underscores the theme of relativism and a secular worldview, embracing human imperfections with benevolence.
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Keywords
💡Modernity
💡Orlando Furioso
💡Humanism
💡Relativism
💡Astolfo's Journey
💡The Divine Comedy
💡Desire
💡Folly
💡Poetry and Power
💡Human Weaknesses
💡Crisis of Poetry
Highlights
Ariosto is considered one of the great fathers of modernity.
His masterpiece, 'Orlando Furioso', is compared to a field of forces.
The protagonists are driven by a relentless dynamism.
They are continuously pursuing their desires without ever reaching them.
The work is described as a grand machine of illusions.
It's a large open work that finds a place within the poem, the Castle of Atlas.
In the Castle of Atlas, everyone is truly pursuing their own desires in a circular manner.
Ariosto's view of man sees the limits and flaws without moral or religious condemnation.
'Orlando Furioso' is presented as the reverse of 'The Divine Comedy'.
It stages a journey to the afterlife that is very different from Dante's.
Astolfo's journey to Hell and then to the Moon to find Orlando's sanity highlights relativism.
The world of 'Orlando Furioso' has nothing more of the world that was Dante's.
The author's vision is secular, seeing human flaws with benevolence thanks to humanism.
The theme of madness is addressed by the author, including his own.
Poetry itself is presented as not being absolutely intangible in relation to human limits.
Ariosto questions the function of poetry, but does not deny its value.
He acknowledges that poets are human and subject to the same weaknesses.
Ariosto confirms being a modern author, close to us in every respect.
Transcripts
[Musica]
l'ariosto è uno dei grandi padri della
modernità si potrebbe dire perché suo
capolavoro l'orlando furioso è stato
paragonato da italo calvino è una sorta
di campo di forze
protagonisti sono mossi continuamente da
un incessante dinamismo inseguono i loro
desideri del incessantemente senza mai
raggiungerli
[Musica]
una grande macchina diciamo delle
illusioni e una grande opera aperta che
in un qualche modo trova anche alla bim
all'interno del
del poema nel castello di atlante il
castello di atlante che ha avuto un
luogo in cui tutti inseguono veramente i
propri desideri in maniera quasi
circolare ecco la risposta questo
sguardo sull'uomo uno sguardo che
diciamo vede i limiti
i difetti dell'uomo senza condannarli né
da un punto di vista morale né dal punto
di vista religioso
in effetti l'orlando furioso si presenta
davvero come il rovescio della divina
commedia e metterà in scena un viaggio
nell'aldilà ben diverso da quello
dantesco il viaggio di astolfo
all'inferno e poi
sulla luna a cercare il senno di orlando
questo viaggio evidenzia sostanzialmente
il relativismo
un sistema di valori
[Musica]
siamo così non ha più nulla del mondo
appunto che era il mondo ad esempio di
dante in cui grazie proprio al
all'umanesimo la visione dell'autore una
visione laica una visione diciamo così
che vede anche con benevolenza i difetti
dell'uomo
[Applauso]
lo stesso lo stesso tema della follia è
un tema che l'autore non esita a
rivolgere anche su se stesso dopo avere
raccontato alla follia di orlando
descrive la propria follia amorosa per
la sua donna alessandra veloci in questi
casi la poesia stessa viene presentata
come non un qualcosa di
all'interno di assolutamente intangibile
rispetto a quelle che sono i limiti
umani ma dice appunto niente meno che
giovanni autore dell'apocalisse i grandi
i potenti si servono dei poeti per far
sì che la loro vicenda terrena sia ben
più era loro vita insomma la loro opera
siano ben più illustri menti un nobili
di quanto in realtà non siano stati
[Musica]
in questo modo l'ha visto mette come
dire in crisi la stessa la stessa
funzione della poesia ma nota che voglia
negare un valore alla poesia ma perché
anche persino la poesia e persino i
poeti sono uomini come gli altri e
quindi cadono sotto lo stesso tipo di
debolezze in questo modo davvero
all'ariosto conferma di essere un autore
vicino a noi è a tutti gli effetti un
moderno
[Musica]
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