Far Right Christian Jayda Fransen is Right About Christianity and Zionism...
Summary
TLDRThe video script discusses the concept of Christian Zionism and its historical context, highlighting that it is a relatively modern development within Christianity. The speaker reviews a clip from an interview with Jada Fransen, a right-wing British Christian nationalist, who criticizes Christian Zionism as a heresy and an oxymoron. The video outlines the historical perspective that Christians did not traditionally support Zionism and that the modern form of the movement has been influenced by the Scofield Reference Bible, which was funded by Zionist Jews and promoted a Zionist interpretation of biblical verses. The speaker also contrasts the views of modern Protestant Evangelicals, who tend to support Zionism, with those of the Catholic and Orthodox Christians, who traditionally have not. The video concludes by emphasizing the importance of understanding the origins and implications of Christian Zionism and encourages viewers to share the content for educational purposes.
Takeaways
- 📚 The speaker is reviewing a clip from the Five Pillars program featuring an interview with Jada Fransen, a right-wing British Christian nationalist.
- 🎥 The video discusses the topic of Christian Zionism and its roots, arguing that it is a modern and heretical branch of Christianity.
- 🕌 The speaker emphasizes that historically, Christianity and Islam both believe that the Jews rejected Jesus as the promised Messiah.
- 🗝️ The concept of dispensationalism and Christian Zionism is presented as having been introduced and funded by certain groups, notably through the Scofield Reference Bible.
- 🌏 It is highlighted that the idea of a geographical Israel ended in 70 AD with the dispersion of the Israelite people and the destruction of the temple.
- 🔍 The video points out that Christian Zionism is a contradiction because Christians believe that they, not the Jews, are the spiritual Israel.
- 👥 Jada Fransen is quoted as saying that Christian Zionism is an oxymoron and a heresy that takes one out of the Christian faith.
- 📜 Historical evidence is provided, with the example of Pope Pius X rejecting Theodore Herzl's Zionist movement in 1904.
- 💡 The video suggests that the shift towards Christian Zionism is largely due to the influence of the Scofield Reference Bible and modern Protestant Evangelical movements.
- 🕊️ The speaker hopes to educate viewers on the origins of Christian Zionism and to challenge the misconceptions about traditional Christian beliefs regarding Israel.
- 📢 The video concludes with a call to action for viewers to share the content and support the channel for more informative and educational videos.
Q & A
What is the main topic of the video script?
-The main topic of the video script is the critique of Christian Zionism, its origins, and its divergence from traditional Christian beliefs, as discussed in an interview with Jada Fransen.
Who is Jada Fransen and what is her stance on Christian Zionism?
-Jada Fransen is a right-wing British Christian nationalist. She believes that Christian Zionism is an oxymoron and a heresy, stating that it contradicts the teachings of Christianity.
What is dispensationalism and how does it relate to Christian Zionism?
-Dispensationalism is a theological belief system that interprets the Bible as having different 'dispensations' or periods of God's dealing with humanity. It is related to Christian Zionism as it often supports the idea of a literal, physical homeland for Jews in Israel, which is a belief held by some Christian Zionists.
What does the speaker claim about the origins of dispensationalism?
-The speaker claims that dispensationalism was created by Jesuit monks and later came to prominence in England and America, being used to support the Zionist movement.
How does the speaker describe the historical Christian position on the identity of Israel?
-The speaker describes the historical Christian position as one where Christians believed that they, as part of the church, were the new Israel, and that there was no national geographical location called Israel according to the Bible after the dispersion of the people in 70 AD.
What was the role of the Scofield Reference Bible in promoting Christian Zionism?
-The Scofield Reference Bible played a significant role in promoting Christian Zionism by providing a Zionist spin on Bible verses in its footnotes and explanations, thus influencing the interpretation of the Bible towards a dispensationalist eschatology.
What did Pope Pius X say to Theodore Herzl when asked for support for the Zionist movement in 1904?
-Pope Pius X told Theodore Herzl that the Catholic Church could not give approval to the Zionist movement because the Jews had not recognized Jesus Christ as the Lord. He also stated that if Jews settled in Palestine, the Church would be ready to baptize them.
How does the speaker describe the shift in Christian attitudes towards Jews and Zionism over time?
-The speaker describes a historical shift from Christians not being Zionists and often being anti-Semitic in the sense of persecuting Jews, to the modern Protestant Evangelical movement that tends to strongly support Zionism.
What is the speaker's view on the current situation regarding Christian support for Zionism?
-The speaker believes that the current support for Zionism among some Protestant Evangelical Christians is misguided and a result of modern influences, such as the Scofield Reference Bible, rather than traditional Christian beliefs.
What does the speaker suggest as a way to counteract the influence of Christian Zionism?
-The speaker suggests educating Christians about the historical and theological roots of their faith, highlighting that traditional Christian beliefs do not support Zionism and that the modern support for it is a deviation from these roots.
Outlines
📚 Discussing Dispensationalism and Christian Zionism
This paragraph introduces a critique of dispensationalism and Christian Zionism. The speaker plans to review a clip from the Five Pillars program featuring an interview with Jada Fransen, a right-wing British Christian nationalist. The speaker argues that Christianity has been distorted to align with the Zionist movement, which is a modern development not rooted in traditional Christian beliefs. The paragraph emphasizes that the idea of a physical Israel is not supported by the Bible, as the true Israel is the Church, and the historical Israelite people were dispersed in 70 AD. The speaker also mentions the influence of the Scofield Reference Bible in promoting Christian Zionism, which is seen as a heresy by some, including Jada Franson.
🎥 Historical Christian Views on Zionism
The speaker continues the discussion by focusing on the historical context of Christian views on Zionism. It is highlighted that early Christians, including Catholics and Orthodox, were not Zionists and did not believe that Jews retained the blessings and promises from the Old Testament. The paragraph provides an account of Theodore Herzl's attempt to gain support for Zionism from Pope Pius X in 1904, which was rejected on the grounds that the Jews had not recognized Jesus Christ as the Messiah. The Pope's response is used to illustrate the traditional Christian stance against Zionism and the intention to convert Jews to Christianity if they settled in Palestine.
🔄 Shift in Modern Christian Attitudes Towards Zionism
In this paragraph, the speaker discusses the shift in modern Christian attitudes, particularly among Protestant Evangelicals, towards support for Zionism. It is suggested that this shift is largely due to the influence of the Scofield Reference Bible and the Protestant Evangelical movement in the West. The speaker contrasts this with the views of the Catholic Church and many Eastern Orthodox Churches, which have traditionally not supported Zionism. The paragraph also mentions contemporary figures like Pope Francis, who do not outwardly support Zionism, and it highlights the divergence between historical Christian beliefs and the modern Evangelical support for the Zionist state.
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Keywords
💡Five Pillars program
💡Imran Hussein
💡Jada Fransen
💡Dispensationalism
💡Christian Zionism
💡Covenant Breakers
💡Scofield Reference Bible
💡Theodore Herzel
💡Pope Pius X
💡Orthodox Christians
💡Evangelical Christians
Highlights
Review of a clip from the Five Pillars program featuring an interview with Jada Fransen, a right-wing British Christian nationalist.
Discussion on the bastardization of Christianity and its ties with the Zionist movement through dispensationalism.
Dispensationalism was created by Jesuit monks and later came to prominence in England and America.
The Bible is clear on Israel; Christ is Israel, and the church is Israel, with no national geographical location called Israel.
People of Israel were dispersed in 70 AD, marking the end of Israel as a geographical entity.
Christian Zionism is considered a heresy and an oxymoron by some Christians, including Jada Franson.
Historically, Christians did not believe that Jews still had the blessings and promises to Israel from the Old Testament.
Christians traditionally believed the church replaced the Jews in a spiritual sense.
Theodore Herzel sought support for Zionism from Christians in the early 20th century.
Pope Pius X's rejection of Zionism in 1904, stating the Catholic Church could not support the movement.
Christians were not always Zionists, and many were historically anti-Semitic, persecuting Jews.
The shift in Christian attitudes towards Zionism is attributed to the influence of the Scofield Reference Bible.
The Scofield Reference Bible, funded by Zionist Jews, promoted a Zionist interpretation of the Bible.
Many modern Protestant Evangelical Christians in the US are strong supporters of Zionism.
Some Protestants, like Jada Franson, reject Christian Zionism and dispensationalism.
The video emphasizes the importance of understanding the historical context of Christian views on Zionism.
Call to action for viewers to subscribe, engage, and share the video for educational purposes.
Transcripts
in today's episode guys I'm going to
review another clip from the Five
Pillars program but it's going to be an
entirely different interview so you guys
who had enough with the previous video
with Imran Hussein no problem whatsoever
if you still disagree with me well
that's pretty strange you might want to
check your Islam as well if you don't
consider someone who believes that
Orthodox Christians are not kufar then
you probably got to problem uh with your
own Dean I'm going to play a clip here
from a totally different interview um
which was with a woman that Dilly had a
conversation in interview with for
people who don't know her her name is
Jada fransen she's basically a
right-wing uh British Christian
nationalist um I'm not saying that to
degrade her or misrepresent her that
came out very clearly in their I think
it was like two or three hour interview
but there was a small section from the
interview that I wanted to play and
highlight and briefly offer my own
thoughts uh regarding what she had to
say because again there's this whole
bastardization of Christianity which
ties in with the Zionist movement at the
moment this dispensationalism which was
um created was actually um something
that was created by Jesuit monks and
then um it came to prominence in England
and there was a guy in Scotland Irving
and then there was a another chat in
England and the Plymouth revering and
they took it to America it's
dispensationalism the the Bible is clear
on Israel the ident if anybody's
questioning the identity of Israel
Christ is Israel I am Israel as part of
the church church is Israel there is no
National geographical location called
Israel according to the Bible those
people were dispersed in 70 AD the
temple came down Jerusalem was destroyed
and the people were scattered throughout
the Earth and so was the end of Israel
the Israelite people people the Covenant
Breakers those who rejected the Messiah
gone finish done this is a man-made
structure and it's infiltrated the
church through this um this these these
Jews that funded the scoffield reference
Bible and that's why we've got this
heretical branch of Christianity
dispensationalism Christian Zionism
Christian Zionism total oxymoron
absolute oxymoron but and there are some
things that we can disagree on like as a
reformed Christian I am a um a ped
Baptist this woman Jada fransen uh very
clearly said that Christian Zionism is
an oxymoron it's a heresy it's something
that's
non-negotiable uh she basically sees it
as something that would uh essentially
take you out of the faith of
Christianity you cannot actually be a
Christian Zionist and she explains very
briefly and correctly that Christians
weren't always zionists right the
Catholics and the Orthodox
um and even early Protestants were not
zionists they were not people who
believed that the Jews were still had
the blessings and
Promises uh to Israel from the Old
Testament they believed that the church
or the Christians basically replaced the
Jews in a way and as she said that's
because from their perspective the Jews
rejected Jesus as the promised Messiah
which both Christianity and Islam except
now we believe indifference to the
Christians they that they went too far
by worshiping and idolizing the Messiah
in ways that were not appropriate by
saying that he was the second person in
the Trinity and God In the Flesh and he
died for our sins and all this kind of
business we don't believe that that's
not our concept of Jesus as the Messiah
nevertheless she's Ro right to point out
that historically speaking the
Christians did not believe that the Jews
were still having the Covenant with God
and the promises to Israel were to the
Jews and they need to establish a
literal physical Homeland in so-called
Israel that's not been traditionally the
Christian position in fact when Theodore
Herzel in the early 20th century was
actually looking for uh support he was
trying to find Christians that would
support him now I just want to read to
you guys to to as a quick demonstration
of what I mean that even up to the early
20th century that mainstream Christians
were not zionists they didn't believe in
the Zionist movement they weren't
dispensationalists which is a form of uh
eschatology and that Jada Franson is
right to point out that a lot of this
was due to What's called the scoffield
reference Bible which was a Bible that
in the um in the footnotes and in the
sort of Tere or explanation of different
verses in the Bible it gave a Zionist
spin it gave a dispensationalist
eschatology and claiming that all these
promises to Israel were supposed to be
fulfilled and you know creating the
modern state of Israel and all these
kind of things it gave basically a
Zionist spin on verses in the Bible that
had not traditionally been interpreted
that way and one example or proof of
this is that when Theodore Herzel would
of course Zionism in terms of its modern
form started from people like Theodore
Herzel who was a secularist who was not
an orthodox uh Jew who didn't believe
strictly speaking in God and the Bible
but nevertheless he was looking for
support in his early attempts at uh
starting this movement and he went to
very popular prominent Christian figures
now one of those figures that he went to
was Pope Pas I 10th and this is in 1904
and we still have the records of this so
Theodore Herzel went to go visit Pope
piest I 10th and to try to Garner
support from him because of course the
pope is the head of the Catholic church
has a lot of power and especially during
back in those times uh both politically
and financially and all of those kind of
things and of course if the pope is
supporting um the zionists and the state
of Israel then of course many Catholics
would as well who make up over 50% of
Christians today now what does Pope Pi
the 10th say to in response to Theodore
Herzel when he tries to get him to
support the Zionist movement this is
what he said he said we cannot give
approval to this Movement we can't give
approval to Zionism very clearly right
out from the get we cannot give approval
to this Movement we cannot prevent the
Jews from going to Jerusalem because at
the time they didn't control it right
but we could never sanction it meaning
we're not going to get behind you and
try to kick out the Palestinians and the
Muslims and even the Christian
Palestinians who are leaving there
living there at the time we can't get
behind this Zionist movement we can
never sanction it the soil of Jerusalem
if it was not always sacred has been
Sanctified by the life of Jesus Christ
as the head of the church I cannot tell
you anything different this is what the
pope is telling to Theodore Herzel the
father of the modern Zionist movement
the Jews have not recognized our Lord
therefore we cannot recog recognize the
Jewish people and so if you come to
Palestine remember he said we can't stop
you but if you do come to Palestine and
settle your people there we shall have
churches and Priests ready to baptize
all of you so he said look first of all
we don't support your Zionist movement
why because you guys rejected Jesus
Christ as the Messiah we can't stop you
from coming there because we don't
control that territory but if you do
come there we plan on having priests and
churches there ready and Priests ready
to baptize you to become Christians now
does that sound like somebody who is a
Zionist does that sound like a Christian
who is supporting Zionism of course not
so when Jada Franson says that Christian
Zionism is basically a contradiction in
terms because we can't support these
zionists they don't have the promises of
Israel from the Old Testament the
Christians believe that Jesus and the
modern Christians are the ones who are
fulfilling that role not the zionists
not the Jews who rejected Jesus who
rejected him as the Messiah no so just
like Jada Franson said in that interview
the pope said back in 1904 in response
to Theodore Herzel when he was trying to
get support from the pope he said we do
not support you and if you show up we're
going to be ready to baptize you and put
you guys in the churches now obviously I
don't support that at all as a Muslim
but that's just to show that tradition
and historically Christians were not
zionists and in fact it can even be
argued that many Christians were
actually anti-semites not in the way
that the zionists call anybody who
supports doesn't support Zionism as an
anti-semite but in reality of actually
persecuting Jews actually uh killing
them many many terrible things that
especially the Catholic um States at the
time and Catholic Empires at the time
Roman Empire actually persecuted the
Jews in which they fled and went to
Muslim lands because uh Muslim lands
were more protecting and um basically
more open to the Jews being there rather
than the Christian so not only were they
not zionists they were completely
anti-zionists and could even be argued
many times historically that they were
anti-semites now today that's completely
shifted uh not actually I shouldn't say
completely because just like the Pope in
19 04 even Pope Francis today is at
least outwardly not um accepting of
Zionism and what's happening in
Palestine so even the Catholic church
and many Eastern Orthodox Orthodox that
we you know uh Imran Hussein wrongly
thinks are not kufar but that's you know
from the previous video nevertheless uh
Orthodox and Catholics for the most part
today are still not zionists unless
they're just misinformed and don't
understand their actual religion and
their Pope and what their religious
figures are even saying today but it's
this Protestant Evangelical movement
that started in the west through things
like the scoffield Bible that was funded
by zionists right Jewish Bankers funded
this project and this you can look this
up and unfortunately they spread that
through the churches and through Western
Protestant academic circles and it wound
up being preached and unfortunately
that's why many in the US these
Protestant Evangelical Christians tend
to be zionists to the point where
they're even breeding cows for these
Zionist Jews to fulfill what they think
are uh and they need to sacrifice these
special red heers in Israel in order to
establish you know the second coming of
Christ and the Third Temple and all
these other wacky ideas it's mostly all
these Protestant Evangelical types who
are just out of their minds in support
of the modern Zionist state but anyway I
thought that was important to highlight
there were many things of course in the
interview that Muslims would not agree
with Jada fransen but I thought this was
an important point to highlight to show
that look where did this movement come
from Modern protestantism scoffield
Bible supported by the Zionist Jews it's
not a conspiracy theory many Christians
have opened up and admitted this I've
been did a video on James White where he
came out very strongly criticizing the
modern Zionist State and the fact that
he doesn't believe in this
dispensationalism and this idea that um
the Jews are actually those who are
going to uh receive all the promises and
blessings on that talk that are talked
about with respect to Israel in the Old
Testament no he doesn't believe that so
there are some Protestants even that are
rejecting this like Jada Franson who is
a Protestant uh but historically the
Orthodox and the Catholics did not
believe in this uh Zionist nonsense and
even uh the Protestants but
unfortunately through the modern
Protestant movement in the 20th century
you had things like the Scofield bible
that were promoting Zionist ideas which
eventually eventually crept into the
Evangelical mindset but that being said
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