Google’s digital transformation of India’s health sector | Bakul Patel | Faye D'Souza

Faye D'Souza
3 Oct 202420:01

Summary

TLDRThis video discusses Google's efforts to enhance healthcare using technology, particularly in India. Google has partnered with the Indian government to improve public health infrastructure through AI, digital health IDs, and smart diagnostics. Tools like the Pixel 3 watch and Health Connect help track health data securely, while AI can diagnose conditions like tuberculosis through cough sounds. The conversation emphasizes privacy, equitable healthcare access, and Google's role in making healthcare more efficient for both patients and providers, particularly in rural areas.

Takeaways

  • 💡 Google is deeply involved in healthcare, using technologies like AI to improve diagnosis and healthcare access globally.
  • 📱 Google aims to individualize healthcare planning through data collected from devices like phones and wearables, enhancing diagnostics with AI.
  • 🩺 Google's Pixel Watch offers highly accurate heart rate monitoring, and Health Connect securely manages personal health data on Android devices.
  • 🌐 Google has partnered with India’s National Health Authority to develop digital health systems, such as integrating Health ID cards with Google Wallet.
  • 🤖 AI-powered diagnostic tools, like detecting tuberculosis from cough sounds or X-rays, are becoming a reality, thanks to Google’s research and open-source projects.
  • 🔐 Privacy and security are paramount: health data remains stored on personal devices or within hospital systems, not accessible to Google.
  • 📊 Google is helping to streamline hospital administration with tools like the clinical intelligence engine, improving efficiency in patient care.
  • 🛡️ Google is committed to minimizing bias in AI, especially when applied to healthcare diagnostics, ensuring that systems are fair and equitable.
  • 🏥 AI and technology are being applied to bridge gaps in healthcare access, particularly for lower socio-economic groups, improving services for underserved populations.
  • 🔍 AI is seen as a key player in addressing diseases like tuberculosis, cancer, and more, with advancements in multi-modal diagnostics combining audio and visual inputs.

Q & A

  • What is the main focus of Google's partnership with India in terms of public health?

    -Google's partnership with India focuses on improving public health through the use of digital technology, AI, and cloud-based solutions. They aim to help the country manage health data, offer personalized healthcare, and create solutions for diagnosing diseases such as tuberculosis.

  • How is Google integrating AI into healthcare in India?

    -Google is integrating AI into healthcare by using it to analyze data from wearables, smartphones, and diagnostics. AI tools are being used to diagnose conditions like tuberculosis through cough sound analysis and X-ray scanning, making diagnosis smarter and faster.

  • What role do wearables play in Google’s health initiatives?

    -Wearables, like the Pixel 3 Watch, play a significant role in Google’s health initiatives by collecting health data such as heart rate, walking balance, and other health metrics. This data is securely stored on users’ devices and is intended to improve personalized healthcare.

  • What privacy concerns are raised by Google’s health technology, and how is Google addressing them?

    -Privacy concerns revolve around the large amounts of personal health data collected by wearables and smartphones. Google addresses these concerns by ensuring that personal data is stored securely on the user's device and not accessible to others, including Google itself. The data is protected by passwords, pins, and fingerprints.

  • What is the Aishman Bharat Digital Mission, and how is Google involved?

    -The Aishman Bharat Digital Mission is a massive insurance initiative by the Indian government. Google is working to digitize health IDs, allowing individuals to store their health cards on Google Wallet for easier access when visiting healthcare facilities, enhancing the system’s efficiency.

  • How will Google’s tools benefit rural populations in India?

    -Google’s tools, such as the tuberculosis diagnostic system and the integration of health IDs, aim to make healthcare more accessible for rural populations. These technologies help diagnose diseases remotely and simplify access to treatment through digital IDs, improving the overall healthcare experience for rural patients.

  • What is Google’s approach to improving hospital administration through AI?

    -Google is helping hospital administrations by providing tools like the Clinical Intelligence Engine, which simplifies tasks such as accessing patient records and managing handovers between medical staff. This reduces administrative burdens and allows more focus on patient care.

  • How is Google addressing AI bias in healthcare systems?

    -Google is carefully mitigating AI bias by ensuring that AI tools are trained on diverse data and refined for local contexts. They are particularly focused on equity in healthcare, aiming to ensure that AI serves people across different socioeconomic, racial, and identity-based groups.

  • How does Google’s Clinical Intelligence Engine support healthcare providers?

    -The Clinical Intelligence Engine helps healthcare providers by offering a quick, intelligent summary of a patient’s medical history, allowing doctors to create better care plans without needing to manually search through files. This enhances efficiency and care quality.

  • What specific diseases is Google focusing on in India with its AI technology?

    -Google is focusing on diagnosing diseases such as tuberculosis, diabetes, and cancers like breast cancer in India. AI-driven diagnostic tools are being used to analyze X-rays, detect TB through cough sounds, and potentially expand to other diseases in the future.

Outlines

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📱 Revolutionizing Healthcare with Wearable Devices

The paragraph discusses the growing use of wearable devices and smartphones for tracking health metrics, such as heart rate and walking balance. These devices gather vast amounts of data, sometimes raising concerns about privacy. Google is working on public health initiatives, especially in India, focusing on AI-driven healthcare solutions. Bakul Patel, a senior executive at Google, highlights the potential of using AI for personalized healthcare diagnosis based on data from wearable devices and how Google aims to help people live healthier, longer lives.

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🤝 Google's Partnership with the Indian Government

Google is collaborating with the Indian government on several public health projects. A notable initiative is the integration of health IDs into Google Wallet, enabling seamless access to healthcare services. The open-source tools provided by Google help developers adopt the Ayushman Bharat Digital Mission (ABDM) infrastructure more easily. Additionally, the Health ID system will be secure, requiring passwords or fingerprints, ensuring privacy protection. The ID will store essential medical information, reducing the need for physical documentation at hospitals.

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🌾 Empowering Rural Healthcare through AI and Digital Records

Google’s technology supports not only urban but also rural healthcare. For instance, a farmer diagnosed with tuberculosis using AI tools can use the health ID to access hospital care. The farmer's medical history is stored securely within hospital systems, potentially hosted on Google Cloud but inaccessible to Google itself. The integration of AI can streamline hospital administration, reducing manual tasks like filing paperwork. Google's clinical intelligence engine can simplify patient records for medical professionals, allowing them to focus on care, though it's customized and managed by hospitals.

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🤖 Addressing Bias in AI-Driven Healthcare

The conversation shifts to concerns about AI bias in healthcare, a pressing issue globally. Google recognizes the risks and emphasizes its focus on responsible AI use, particularly in low-risk areas like administrative tasks. The company is committed to equity, ensuring that AI models do not disproportionately serve one group over another, including those from different socio-economic backgrounds. This commitment includes building localized AI models to ensure relevancy and accuracy, particularly in healthcare settings like rural areas.

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Keywords

💡Wearables

Wearables are devices like smartwatches and fitness trackers that can monitor various health metrics, such as heart rate and movement. In the video, wearables are highlighted as tools that many people use to track their health, collecting data that can both aid in better health management and raise concerns about privacy.

💡AI (Artificial Intelligence)

AI refers to computer systems capable of performing tasks that typically require human intelligence, such as diagnosing diseases. In the video, AI is described as a key technology for the future of healthcare, enabling faster and more personalized diagnoses by analyzing data from devices like phones and wearables.

💡Google Health

Google Health is a division within Google focused on developing healthcare-related products and services. The video discusses Google Health's mission to improve global healthcare using its existing platforms like Android, YouTube, and its cloud services, integrating AI and wearables for better health management.

💡ABDM (Ayushman Bharat Digital Mission)

ABDM is India's digital public health initiative aimed at creating a nationwide health infrastructure, including digital health IDs. The video explains that Google is partnering with India's government to integrate health IDs into Google Wallet, allowing easier access to healthcare services for citizens.

💡Privacy

Privacy concerns arise from the vast amount of personal health data collected by digital devices. The video discusses the challenge of balancing technological advancements with privacy, especially when dealing with sensitive health information from millions of users, including those using Google Wallet for their health IDs.

💡TB (Tuberculosis)

Tuberculosis is a major health issue in India. In the video, Google’s AI tools, in partnership with Swasa, are described as being able to detect TB through cough sounds or X-ray analysis, showcasing the potential of AI to assist in diagnosing widespread diseases in low-resource settings.

💡Health ID

Health ID refers to a unique digital identifier for accessing health services. In India, under the Ayushman Bharat Digital Mission, Google is working to integrate Health IDs into Google Wallet. This allows people to carry their digital health credentials securely on their phones, making healthcare access more streamlined.

💡Cloud Infrastructure

Cloud infrastructure provides a secure and scalable platform for storing and processing health data. In the video, it’s mentioned that hospitals can store patients’ health records on Google Cloud, ensuring that the data is private and secure, accessible only by the hospitals and the patients themselves.

💡Clinical Intelligence Engine

The Clinical Intelligence Engine is a tool developed by Google that helps healthcare providers quickly access and understand patient records, enabling faster decision-making in care. The video highlights how this engine simplifies the administrative burden for healthcare workers, allowing them to focus more on patient care.

💡Equity

Equity in healthcare refers to ensuring that all individuals, regardless of socioeconomic status, have equal access to quality healthcare. The video emphasizes Google Health’s focus on addressing healthcare disparities, particularly in India, by using AI and other technologies to provide care to underserved populations.

Highlights

Google is collaborating with India to provide large-scale public health solutions using AI and mobile data.

Google’s partnership with India focuses on improving health diagnostics using smartphones, wearables, and AI to personalize healthcare.

Google’s Pixel Watch includes the most accurate heart rate sensor available to date, emphasizing the role of wearables in health monitoring.

Google has developed an AI model to detect tuberculosis (TB) from cough sounds, demonstrating innovation in early disease detection.

Google Health’s mission is to enable everyone to live healthier and longer lives by leveraging its existing platforms like YouTube, Search, and Android.

Google's Health Connect allows users to securely store personal health data on their smartphones without external access.

A key part of the initiative is to give caregivers better tools through AI, providing them with important diagnostic and health history insights.

Google is integrating India's Health ID system into Google Wallet, allowing people to carry their health IDs on their phones for easier access to medical care.

Google ensures that no external party, including itself, can access personal health data stored on user devices without consent.

Google’s focus on privacy protection involves securing health information using passcodes, fingerprints, and ensuring data remains on the user's device.

Google is working on improving hospital administration systems through AI, allowing caregivers to spend more time on patient care rather than paperwork.

AI bias is a serious concern for Google, and they are taking steps to reduce bias by training models with localized data for more accurate diagnostics.

Google’s clinical intelligence engine helps healthcare providers access and analyze patient history more efficiently, minimizing manual effort.

Google has partnered with various organizations, including the National Health Authority, to digitize India’s healthcare system for more inclusive care.

The collaboration with organizations like Armaan has shown that AI can predict and intervene in cases like expectant mothers who are at risk of falling out of healthcare systems.

Transcripts

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well it's an interesting time to talk

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about health um now a lot of us use

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variables we use our cell phones to

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track various things about our health um

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you know our phones and our watches can

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now check our heartbeat check the

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balance with which we're walking um

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actually keep track of various things to

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do with health that sometimes helps us

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manage better sometimes makes us

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uncomfortable about how much data these

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devices are actually collecting there's

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an inter in development now from Google

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Google is actually working very largely

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in public health and is now teamed up

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with India uh to provide large scale

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Public Health to people across the

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country this conversation is to

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understand how that will actually work

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what the Condors of that uh you know

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understanding is and whether it will

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improve things for India or is it likely

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to make those of us who take privacy

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very uh seriously a little more

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uncomfortable to help us understand this

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and answer those questions for me bakul

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Patel who's the senior director of

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global digital Health strategy and uh

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regulatory Health strategy at Google

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joins us right now um Mr Patel thank you

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for joining us um I understand to put it

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very fundamentally for our audience to

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um you know to sort of come up to speed

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with what you're discussing right now

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Google is working on a future in which

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healthc care diagnosis and planning can

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be individualized to each of us using

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using the data that's collected by our

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phones and our variables and various

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Diagnostics is that correct and you'll

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be using AI to make it smarter and

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faster yeah fa I think really good but

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you're raising a really futuristic

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question and this is really true and I

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think once you know we wish we can sort

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of help people diagnose a lot of

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conditions but let me go one step before

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that we're actually doing this today

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already in India and our mission and

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Google Health you know what is Google

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health is pretty much like you know it's

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a part of everything Google does and

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what does that mean for health so you

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aim to bring everyone everywhere live

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longer in in a longer healthier lives so

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that's sort of the mission statement for

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us and the the work that we do at at

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Google Heth is build products that

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people already use every day from search

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to YouTube to Android to cloud and

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include that includes variables as well

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right so I think you mentioned variables

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earlier this is really really powerful

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you know as you start thinking about

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pixel 3 watch watch that was just

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released that has the most accurate

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heart rate sensor um built built as of

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today you know if you think about

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Android you know Health Connect is

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actually where people can connect their

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data their personal data securely on

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their phones and I think those are the

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kind of things examples and I can I can

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going into a lot more examples but just

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to give you a flavor of Google is

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involved in health today and it's been

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involving in a very long time I think

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the future what you just painted is more

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about the future capabilities of how AI

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is going to transform Healthcare in the

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future right but there's we are in the

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we're in the middle of that Journey not

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in the futuristic world yet but I can

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give you examples like you know we our

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recent research which is open source and

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it's a foundation model which others can

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build from and we we partnering with a

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with a organization called swasa that

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can actually detect TB from cough sounds

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now that's phenomenal re right if you

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can imagine that or you can take X-rays

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and just run it through the AI tools and

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detect somebody has TB or not and those

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are the kind of things that our research

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becoming open source and giving people

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an enabling sort of technology that can

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take it to the next level

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um for actually detecting or diagnosing

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diseases as as you can imagine but

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that's not that's like personally for

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people right if you just think about it

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from that perspec but then if you think

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about the way sort of our our technology

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platforms are across used by many many

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people across the world and one of the

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key things is information giving people

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the right information of the right time

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is really really important and I think

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our our platforms do that really really

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well and if you just think about you

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know then think about okay what do it

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what does that mean for the caregiver

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because they are an important piece of

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the puzzle in health care itself right

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and just thinking through that and

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saying what can we do to enable those

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caregivers and this diagnostic tools I

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just outlined are the tools that can do

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and then you have other partners like

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government of India and National Health

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Authority that that is trying to sort of

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build the ecosystem in the architecture

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for digital digital Health to become

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real

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so those are kind of the things that I

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would say that we are working towards

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and working are working currently

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on what are you doing with government of

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India right

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now so there's a couple things right so

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either one is directly with government

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of India we have an open source project

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our Google research team who and

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provided a set of tools that is open

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source that allows for ABA um allows for

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the the abdm infrastructure to be easily

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adopted by developers who are trying to

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connect to the infrastructure that's

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that abdm so that's the the the what we

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call it is a wrapper that allows

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integration integration to the system at

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scale much quicker because we build all

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the mechanics that goes with it really

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and open source developers can sort of

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take it and implement it really quickly

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that's like number one number two I

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think I will say that you know up ID I

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think that's a that's a big push from

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from thetion national health authority

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to have every every Indians to have that

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we partnered with

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aare um who is partnering with the NH

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and now you're going to take Hab IDs and

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you'll see this in the next year um and

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that H ID IDs will not be available on

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Google Wallet on your Android phones so

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what do what does that mean what what id

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is that how does it work just think

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about as a health idid right and that ID

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is associated with people who

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participating people with the government

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of India who are connected for the

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health information that that the

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government is is providing to the people

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so what what we are doing here is we're

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partnering with eare which is a company

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that makes it easy for for the IDS to

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show up on Google Apple Google Wallet

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like and that wallet is now secure and

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and we'll be requiring people to like

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use passport and pins and fingerprints

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to sort of access that so it's we we we

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keep in top of mind that security is a

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and privacy is a key thing will be on

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the ID

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itself well so if I understood correctly

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the aishman bhat U digital Mission which

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is basically an in a massive insurance

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policy that's offered to people of India

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from government across the board the

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digitization portion of it uh will

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involve an ID that can that you are

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working on adding to the Google Wallet

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so people can just carry it around in

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their phones and when they arrive at the

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hospital they don't need any other

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document ation except what's already on

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that phone just exactly you're exactly

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right right making it so easy for people

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to give that give access to that ID that

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people can just walk around walk and go

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to go to the care facilities with

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that uh bu I have two uh you know

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questions about privacy here which is

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obviously going to come up because on

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one hand what you're going to have is

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access to an enormous amount of

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healthcare data of Indian citizens u i I

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do understand that this will be

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extremely useful in studies for cancer

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for tuberculosis for diabetes issues

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that Indians face in perhaps the largest

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numbers in the world right now the

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second aspect is private data of every

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single individual that's currently being

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logged on their phones and their

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variables that will that Google will

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then be able to harness how are you

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going to respect the privacy of every

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single Indian including the poorest who

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perhaps if were given the choice would s

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sacrifice privacy for healthcare but as

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an organization as Google how will you

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prioritize their

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privacy let me just be extremely clear

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right I think when we surface Health ID

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cards just imagine that as health ID

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cards on Google Wallet we're not

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connecting and seeing their personal

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data it is on the phone for the users to

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sort of maintain and it's not available

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for anybody else outside of the phone um

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to sort of have access access to that so

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I think that is sort of one of the

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fundamental things we should think about

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and the I surfacing of ID is more about

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like making it easy and accessible for a

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lot of people um and and think about

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this as you know you store your your

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bunch of files your pictures on your

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phone that is not available for anybody

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else outside of you in your phone and

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it's protected by a password so that's

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exactly how it is the data does not

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leave

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the phone a smartphone or the device

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itself it just stays in there and it

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doesn't have access nobody else has

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access other than you as as an

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individual so from that perspective and

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when I mentioned earlier like people

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will have to like use their passcode and

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pins and fingerprints is really bring

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giving that purposeful protection layer

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that people cannot just really nearly

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show up and just you know let people

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others sort of accidentally use their

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so if I've understood this correctly I

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mean we are talking about let's let's

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talk about an individual farmer um you

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know who lives in rural India who's used

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your uh partnership with ap poo to be

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diagnosed with tuberculosis and then

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uses the aishman bat card on his Google

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phone to go to the hospital and aail of

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treatment and I do understand you're

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also working at uh improving

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administrative um you know details

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inside of hospitals which means

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handovers between nurses actual data

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actual you know um administrative work

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does all of this eventually form a file

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of medical history for this individual

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farmer and where does that file rest who

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has access to it yeah

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so the health records for a person is

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with the hospital systems itself and

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even if they were within on a Google

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Cloud Google Cloud basis on a Google

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Cloud you can imagine a a domain that's

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been created for that for that customer

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in this case there's a big large

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hospital they will have their own domain

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and that domain itself is private to

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that customer nobody has access like

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there's no other people person including

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Google have access to that to that

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information that's lies into that that

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cloud infrastructure and it could be any

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other Cloud not just Google but any

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Cloud INF that's how the technology

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works right so that that is important to

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understand that within the health system

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itself it's private within and all that

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information that the farmer actually now

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goes and exchanges with the you know

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hospital system XYZ it will be in the

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hospital system XYZ just like you know

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imagine you know you have paper records

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that somebody writes notes on and keep

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in a file in in a hospital that is the

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digital version of that stays within the

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hospital I do want to understand how

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you're working to help people in

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administration um I

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my understanding is that Google is

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working to help Hospital Administration

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uh dedicate more time to care and take

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less time out of actually filling out

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those forms and those files what is it

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you're doing exactly yeah so um so

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what I don't know if I I'm going to use

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jargon here but let excuse me for that

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there's a clinical intelligence engine

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which is actually another tool that

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Google has developed and we actually

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allowed it's it's kind of foundation

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model that our customers like like a

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hospital system will actually take that

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and build it for their own systems and

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that intelligent engine you can imagine

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I'm going to make it very simple imagine

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you they have built it and they have

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access to the patient record or a

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patient X is showing up you can the

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engine can sort of take it take that

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record for that person and make it

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simple enough for the providers to

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understand the history what was what was

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last done with the person

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and so they can create a plan of action

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or care for that per for that person who

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has been visiting so that's instead of

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so the alternative to that is somebody

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has to go scroll or flip pages to make

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sure that they have seen the history for

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that patient now this engine that I'm

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talking about clinical intelligence

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engine is providing exactly that

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intelligence into a person's record but

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it's remember this is built by the

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hospital system not by Google we

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provided the base technology that you

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know you can think about that's a

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guiding tool that that hospitals can

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use if we're using AI for Diagnostics uh

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one of the things that we're concerned

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about when it comes to generative AI

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across the world is the um you know so

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the sort of bias that gets worked into

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the Learning System it could be far more

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dangerous when we're talking about

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health and Diagnostics is what is Google

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doing to mitigate that risk of AI just

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Mis learning some biases already

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industry we take this extremely

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seriously F I think at Google we want to

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be bold but we also be want to be

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extremely responsible and we can't do it

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alone I think generative AI is such a

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such a frontier that we we're trying to

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get across very carefully that's why I

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feel that when we use these Technologies

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it's better to use in lowrisk settings

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like administrative sort of simplifying

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or just explaining what has happened

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from a nurse Handover uh systems like

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that there that can be rechecked and

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checked by humans as as you can see so

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this happen and when we start talking

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about as we how we start building

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Technologies together with other people

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we going to learn what is it that these

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generative AI tools are going to do how

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are you going to partner how do you sort

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of minimize this bias Equity is actually

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one of the Paramon things that Google

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health is really really focused on and I

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think it's inequity is a very broad word

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right I can imagine from a socio

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economic structure from a race and

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identity structures and any many other

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dimensions of that and I think we need

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to make sure this Technologies are

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serving everyone not just one forgive me

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I'm going to stop you here because of

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the Jon but I don't understand how

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you're going to do that um how will you

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make sure and let me let me put this

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basically in India we have excellent

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state-of-the-art healthcare for people

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who have money

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but for people who don't have money the

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reality is very very

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different how will you with AI bridge

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that Gap or at least in the very least

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make sure the Gap is not

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widened yeah I I I think you you sort

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heard me say this right the equity is

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beyond just race and identity it's more

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about socio economic as well just kind

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of what you're alluding to right there's

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an social economic strata that is

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different than the other strata does

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that exist and I think if you think

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about care and access to care I think

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that's when when I spoke about our goal

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to help Millions everywhere have access

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to healthare using our technology that's

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one of the things I think we need to

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focus on and I think that is that is

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driven by information that's driven by

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insights and that's driven by

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infrastructure if you think about those

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things and you hit it from and we sort

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of look at it from what does the

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consumers need what does the caregivers

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need what do the health infrastructure

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need is kind of where we are sort of

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working towards now you and let me go

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back to your original question about

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training models with data and if you if

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you start thinking about training models

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with data you have to be careful not

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every model is US usable for everything

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in fact we have uh our models is is when

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we say Foundation models they're based

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on a foundation of data that's that's

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going to be trained on but the Next

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Level The Last Mile would have to be

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done in the local setting local sort of

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aspects Etc and this is this is kind of

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how we are looking at amplifying what

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are the things that we could do better

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in different settings and that's one way

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to think about it but also if you if you

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look at some of the projects that we

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have done in in in understanding how um

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I don't know if you heard the project

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Arman or not where where we help

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expectant mothers yeah so and that's

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where technology can actually I mean if

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you heard about their product I think

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but that's what technology can predict

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which which mother is actually going to

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fall out of the system and can it

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actually be can we use the workers the

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the call centers to sort of reach out to

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those people to help bridge that Gap and

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that that is the power of Technology

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right it's not going to be just about

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training it's not just going to be about

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you know Building Technology I think we

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need to build to together with people to

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make sure that we are addressing those

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gaps what areas of healthcare

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specifically do you believe um AI will

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be most useful for in India are we

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talking tuberculosis are we skin cancer

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breast cancer what Diagnostics or what

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specialities will it uh be deployed most

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in I I I think all of them are pry Prime

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game I think this is this goes those

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goes in line with with you know TV is

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one of the of the things that that we

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are focused on today and as we learn

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more as we sort of have information that

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can build and build some of those

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Foundation models of research sort of

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goes beyond I mean I don't know if you

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heard but you probably hear this um

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today in terms of where we we're talking

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about you know we have a foundation

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model called here

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H that we are working with a company

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with an organization called swasa that's

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trying trying to detect TB from cuff

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sounds how exciting is that right so now

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you have this multimodal capabilities

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not just about x-rays which was done

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many many many many years ago and Contin

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to being done but you are now seeing

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advantages of being able to hear being

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able to see and being able to sort of go

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forward with with these kind of

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diagnostic but the science is still

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evolving right I think we still need to

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work through some of these things it

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needs to be Pro out need to be make it

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more available for General general

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population so I I feel like we are in

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the beginnings of that world of how Ai

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and this phenomenal technology that can

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now hear and see can actually be used

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for this

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diagnosis all right uh thank you so much

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for speaking with me here uh I do

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appreciate the conversation and um we

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look forward to uh the data that or or

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the technology that Google hopes to

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deploy in India we keep a close eye on

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