Evading Antivirus Detection in C (with Dahvid Schloss)

John Hammond
19 Jun 202528:32

Summary

TLDRThis transcript delves into advanced malware development, focusing on creative evasion techniques, stealth tactics, and infrastructure for Command and Control (C2) operations. It highlights the importance of obfuscation, the evolving capabilities of antivirus software, and how to bypass detection using sophisticated methods like process injection. The conversation also emphasizes the value of creativity in malware development, with real-world examples and insights on advanced evasion tactics. The speaker underscores the importance of learning and improving skills in this field, aiming to prepare participants for more advanced stages of malware development and red teaming.

Takeaways

  • 😀 Malware development requires a solid understanding of system types, variable types, and programming fundamentals to grasp advanced techniques effectively.
  • 😀 Stealth and evasion are crucial elements in malware development, going beyond basic functionality like creating threads and injecting processes.
  • 😀 Creativity is celebrated in malware development, with unique methods such as inserting books or official documents into malware binaries to evade detection.
  • 😀 Obfuscation of critical elements like encryption keys, data, and payloads can drastically improve the effectiveness of stealth and avoidance of detection.
  • 😀 Many detection systems, even advanced ones like CrowdStrike or SentinelOne, struggle to effectively identify sophisticated process injection techniques.
  • 😀 Evasion techniques in malware development include randomizing infrastructure, using dark web services, or leveraging obscure C2 (Command and Control) nodes.
  • 😀 Using tools like Mythic, Cobalt Strike, or other advanced payloads can make the malware more evasive, bypassing traditional security software.
  • 😀 Incorporating meme-like or unrelated data in malware, such as humorous or obscure images, can bloat the resource file and reduce entropy, aiding in evasion.
  • 😀 Antivirus software often focuses on detecting binaries, but many fail to identify injected processes, which can allow malware to remain active despite detection.
  • 😀 As machine learning and AI detection systems improve, it’s important to constantly evolve and hide key indicators (e.g., encryption keys, C2 URLs) to stay undetected.
  • 😀 The future of malware development courses will delve deeper into techniques for obfuscating C2 communications and ensuring long-term, stealthy persistence on targeted systems.

Q & A

  • What is the main focus of the discussed course on malware development?

    -The course focuses on teaching the concepts and techniques of malware development, with an emphasis on stealth, evasion, and creative approaches to red teaming and offensive security. It covers topics like process injection, shellcode loading, and advanced evasion techniques.

  • Why is an understanding of system types and variables important in malware development?

    -Understanding system types and variables helps in grasping how programming works and enables better manipulation of data structures and functions. It allows malware developers to understand how to craft payloads that interact with system memory and processes efficiently.

  • What role does creativity play in malware development?

    -Creativity is crucial in malware development because it allows developers to come up with novel ways to evade detection, exploit vulnerabilities, and avoid traditional signature-based detection methods. Techniques like embedding random data, books, or memes into malware binaries are examples of creative methods used to confuse antivirus software.

  • How does the use of 'green strings' help in malware evasion?

    -'Green strings' are strings of text that resemble known signatures of malware, but by embedding them in the binary or data sections, malware can confuse detection systems. This increases the entropy of the binary, making it harder for antivirus software to recognize it as malicious.

  • What is the significance of using external sources like Microsoft's documentation in malware development?

    -Using external sources, like Microsoft's own documentation, in malware development can trick detection tools, particularly machine learning-based systems. These tools may fail to identify the embedded content as part of malicious activity, allowing the malware to bypass detection more easily.

  • What does the speaker mean by the term 'offuscation' in the context of malware?

    -Offuscation refers to the technique of making the malicious payload or its communication less detectable or understandable by security systems. This can include hiding data, encrypting communication, or using unconventional methods to camouflage the true intent of the malware.

  • What are some examples of techniques for hiding Command and Control (C2) communication?

    -To avoid detection, malware developers can hide C2 communication by using dark web services like Tor, random pastebin sites, or living-off-the-land techniques. These methods obscure the communication from traditional detection systems by masking the source and making it harder to trace.

  • How do advanced antivirus solutions handle sophisticated malware payloads?

    -Advanced antivirus solutions, like BitDefender and others, may prevent malware payloads from executing, but they often fail to stop payloads that are injected into running processes. These solutions may also miss some types of evasion techniques such as process injection or offuscated payloads.

  • What is the speaker's perspective on the current state of AI and malware detection?

    -The speaker notes that AI-based malware detection tools are still not very effective at identifying sophisticated threats, especially those employing creative evasion techniques. AI tends to struggle with more complex, obfuscated payloads and often fails to detect the subtleties of malware.

  • What are the plans for future installments of the course?

    -Future installments of the course will focus on more advanced topics, including detailed methods of obfuscation, advanced evasion techniques, and the use of more sophisticated tools like Mythic and Cobalt Strike. The goal is to provide in-depth coverage of stage zero and stage one techniques for real-world malware development.

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